It's quite clear nowadays that all medical professionals work together for quick recovery of the patient. The unhealthy rivalry in the health sector is usually generated by some greedy folks, whether medical doctor or anybody. As a medical doctor, I have come to understand that there's no way the money they pay medical lab scientists will affect the money they pay the doctors. Why not come together let's chart a good course for our better tomorrow. We are fighting ourselves in the health sector while the lawmakers are there making money even when they are not more educated than us in the medical sector. THE PRACTICE OF MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENCE IS VERY MUCH INDISPENSABLE because WE PRACTISE EVIDENCE BASED MEDICINE (EBM), THERE'S NO WAY YOU GUYS CAN BE PUSHED ASIDE. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. So let's accommodate one another no matter the profession, thanks.

Nice profession tho. ...more like the eye of Medical Doctors.My elder sis is one.I hope she gets a very good job soonest or if anyone here can be of help with Nov openings for medical lab. scientists.She's fresh from service.My email is below .Peace

Bedrock of modern medicine.they prevent d doctors from killing u.

sapiosexual1:

Would you pick offence if I told you to shut up?
I don't know your discipline but I do hope you aren't a doctor cos you would be an embarassement to us

He will pick offence!


He will not be an embarassment to you guys because most doctors are ************ to us in Nigeria!

@Jeflox, U have stated it as it ought to be among health professionals.
The bickering is just too appalling! And I have seen cases where some professionals involved take it so personal.
I just hope health professionals can see themselves as a team, needing each other for the good of the patient/client.

orlarbissy:
Please, summary

the topic title does that

Lacomus:
almost everyone studying medical lab science lost out on the medicine race

almost every doctor didn't get the course on merit. y do u think dey still can't treat an ear infection or other easily treatable diseases. doctors, proud senseless individuals

orlarbissy:
Please, summary

the topic title does that.

Jeflox:
It's quite clear nowadays that all medical professionals work together for quick recovery of the patient. The unhealthy rivalry in the health sector is usually generated by some greedy folks, whether medical doctor or anybody. As a medical doctor, I have come to understand that there's no way the money they pay medical lab scientists will affect the money they pay the doctors. Why not come together let's chart a good course for our better tomorrow. We are fighting ourselves in the health sector while the lawmakers are there making money even when they are not more educated than us in the medical sector. THE PRACTICE OF MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENCE IS VERY MUCH INDISPENSABLE because WE PRACTISE EVIDENCE BASED MEDICINE (EBM), THERE'S NO WAY YOU GUYS CAN BE PUSHED ASIDE. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. So let's accommodate one another no matter the profession, thanks.

The best post I have seen on nairaland....my brother you gave the problem and proferred a solution. It has always been greed and the rest but I think this generation of Medical professionals can bring an end to that unhealthy rivalry.....It should be a TEAM not some scattered players.
#Respect

mankan2k7:
I love MLS like kilode

Though some are bent in suppressing d growth of the profession, still d profession blossoms.


Medical laboratory scientist is a doctor consultant

Good .but stop fighting doctors over superiority

No doubt some doctors have superiority complex. Also no doubt a lot of allied medicals like MLS, nursing etc also have inferiority complex (not all though)

You never talk about the Clinical Pathologists who are medical doctors who trained most first sets of medical laboratory scientists in Nigeria with the hope of producing scientists to help them in their Labs only for them to hijack their Labs from them.

When it comes to laboratory studies in the USA and UK, what you hear about is Consultant Pathologists and not MLS.

I think we need you here in Nigeria because of the shortages of doctors (pathologists) here but stop misleading the public about who you are not.

Let people know that that there are Consultant Pathologists who are real medical doctors in charge of laboratory medicine but in short supply in Nigeria.

Wish you the best guys. No bad blood.

basingstoke:
Good .but stop fighting doctors over superiority

Superiority isn't the word, in the Medical field no one is more superior to the doctor (based on the years of learning). But rather the word should be Territorialism as seen in our Modern Biology text (if you understand what I mean).
If you want to do anything in your area you are free to do it but don't cut into another mans territory and expect him to fold his arm and smile (that's where the trouble begins). My brother the genesis to that trouble still long but thank God it has been ironed out so there is now peace.

Ya we are still de search light. the big hand of medicin

Lacomus:
almost everyone studying medical lab science lost out on the medicine race

for me nt true..so get ur facts right

MLS masturbation thread ..wankers.... when you open a promotion thread while the public scroll through, laugh at your asses and book appointments to see the serious people
The real players called pathologists don't have the time for this... everybody knows who you are, somethings not happening outside can't start in Nigeria. Try harder

drsugar:
No doubt some doctors have superiority complex. Also no doubt a lot of allied medicals like MLS, nursing etc [s]also have inferiority complex (not all though)[/s].

those should never come up

You never talk about the Clinical Pathologists who are medical doctors who trained most first sets of medical laboratory scientists in Nigeria with the hope of producing scientists to help them in their Labs only for them to hijack their Labs from them.

The first set of Medical Lab scts were not trained by Nigerian clinical pathologists. Over time there has been developments here and there and the need to allow these set of people be. Career and professional development.
Same development that enhanced medicine from apprenticeship (health attendants) to diploma to what it is today.

When it comes to laboratory studies in the USA and UK, what you hear about is Consultant Pathologists and not MLS.

Funny enough in the places you sited they have consultants who are in the field of MLS. Have you ever heard of FRCPATH (Most MLS become consultants through that in the UK) and ASCP (US) gives guidelines on how to become a consultant in the various aspects of MLS. The American Society for Clinical Pathologists who have in them pathologist and MLS has a very strong motto (Stronger together) in Nigeria both factions always on another neck for nothing.

I think we need you here in Nigeria because of the shortages of doctors (pathologists) here but stop misleading the public about who you are not.

The world knows who we are and what we do which is totally different from what the pathologist does (review the result, interpret for diagnostic purpose to either the referring doctor or the patient. In Nigeria they wanted to do everything which is now history now.

Let people know that that there are Consultant Pathologists who are real medical doctors in charge of laboratory medicine but in short supply in Nigeria.

Actually it's laboratory science WACP, NMPCN called it as a diploma but do you know in other climes MLS is referred to as Laboratory medicine? You can't do a diploma in a course and want to overthrow someone with a bachelors degree, Msc and PhD in it. Even in UK and US you sited, now the real owners have assumed their roles. Professional development from a bachelor awarding to a doctoral awarding degree have paved way in these countries (DCLS and MLSD degrees).

Wish you the best guys. No bad blood.

Thanks

Very enlightening post.
May God bless your efforts .

..they should be more of medical lab technologist than scientists. The Physician investigates and request a test of which any educated person with a test protocol can carry out and write out the results. They don't interpret, diagnose or conclude the findings of the patients state of health. They only put the values of the result, or +ve or -ve, where is the science?

horpeyemmi66:


Gosh!.. Your thinking has got to step up. According to Top 100 Jobs USA, Medicine isn't among the top 5.
1. ORTHODONTICS (Specialty of Dentistry)
2. GENERAL DENTISTRY
3. ANAESTHETIC NURSE
4. COMPUTER ANALYST
5. NURSE PRACTITIONER

I can't believe you still chose to embarra ss yourself by writing that drivel.

e pain am!
Lol, na joke oooo

shruuh:
..they should be more of medical lab technologist than scientists. The Physician investigates and request a test of which any educated person with a test protocol can carry out and write out the results. They don't interpret, diagnose or conclude the findings of the patients state of health. They only put the values of the result, or +ve or -ve, where is the science?

And you have not seen the science? Well when you apply biological and chemical science to understand how the human
body works (normal) and what can go wrong with it (pathology), what do you call it?
Stop reeling out ignorance a MLS can interpret whatever result he generates but since its a team work the doctor who saw the patient will apply the result on his subject.
Don't confuse MLT who attend Colleges of health technology to MLS (totally different)

Ok... we don hear.


















but am proudly MICROBE

That this thread was opened at all shows that MLS are dying of inferiority complex. Why not just do your work and get on with it?

basingstoke:
Good .but stop fighting doctors over superiority

Who is fighting doctor? or doctor trying to highjack laboratory from d original owner. Thank God for the laws we have in the country which states that Mls and medical doctors are different professionals and should function independently

[quote author=worlexy post=50295523]The case scenario painted above is so dumb that MLS ought to cover their faces in shame if that's the work they do in the hospital, a doctor doesn't need the service of an MLS to differentiate Hypo from Hyperglycemia, they may only need the service of a machine (Glucometer) to ascertain the quantity of the sugar in the body, mind you a glucometer is a machine, a simple machine that almost all diabetic patients have and can operate in the comfort of their homes, whether educated or not, operation of the item doesn't require any expertise and if at all anybody wants to claim credit for the item it should be the producer (Engineers) and not the operators(MLS, Physicians, Patients and Patients relatives). A glucometer is just like the Blood Pressure apparatus that almost anybody can use, so if a physician is now saying that s/he is the only one that can measure blood pressure, then something is wrong.

In other news....When MLS and Physician partner, the result is always wonderful. In America, they are stronger together....Not Nigeria where both are at loggerheads

A team of physicians and laboratory scientists has taken a key step toward a cure for sickle cell disease, using CRISPR-Cas9 gene editing to fix the mutated gene responsible for the disease in stem cells from the blood of affected patients.
For the first time, they have corrected the mutation in a proportion of stem cells that is high enough to produce a substantial benefit in sickle cell patients.
 
The researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, UC San Francisco Benioff Children’s Hospital Oakland Research Institute (CHORI) and the University of Utah School of Medicine, both in the United States (U.S.), hope to re-infuse patients with the edited stem cells and alleviate symptoms of the disease, which primarily afflicts those of African descent and leads to anemia, painful blood blockages and early death.
 
“We’re very excited about the promise of this technology,” said Jacob Corn, a senior author on the study and scientific director of the Innovative Genomics Initiative at UC Berkeley. “There is still a lot of work to be done before this approach might be used in the clinic, but we’re hopeful that it will pave the way for new kinds of treatment for patients with sickle cell disease.”
In tests in mice, the genetically engineered stem cells stuck around for at least four months after transplantation, an important benchmark to ensure that any potential therapy would be lasting.
 
“This is an important advance because for the first time we show a level of correction in stem cells that should be sufficient for a clinical benefit in persons with sickle cell anemia,” said co-author Mark Walters, a pediatric hematologist and oncologist and director of UCSF Benioff Oakland’s Blood and Marrow Transplantation Programme.
 
The results was reported in the journal ScienceTranslational Medicine.Sickle cell disease is a recessive genetic disorder caused by a single mutation in both copies of a gene coding for beta-globin, a protein that forms part of the oxygen-carrying molecule hemoglobin. This homozygous defect causes hemoglobin molecules to stick together, deforming red blood cells into a characteristic “sickle” shape. These misshapen cells get stuck in blood vessels, causing blockages, anemia, pain, organ failure and significantly shortened lifespan. Sickle cell disease is particularly prevalent in African Americans and the sub-Saharan African population, affecting hundreds of thousands of people worldwide.
 
The goal of the multi-institutional team is to develop genome engineering-based methods for correcting the disease-causing mutation in each patient’s own stem cells to ensure that new red blood cells are healthy.
 
The team used CRISPR-Cas9 to correct the disease-causing mutation in hematopoietic stem cells – precursor cells that mature into red blood cells – isolated from whole blood of sickle cell patients. The corrected cells produced healthy hemoglobin, which mutated cells do not make at all.
 
Future pre-clinical work will require additional optimization, large-scale mouse studies and rigorous safety analysis, the researchers emphasize. Corn and his lab have joined with Walters, an expert in developing curative treatments such as bone marrow transplant and gene therapy for sickle cell disease, to initiate an early-phase clinical trial to test this new treatment within the next five years.
 
Notably, research groups might be able to apply the approach described in this study to develop treatments for other blood diseases such as β-thalassemia, severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID), chronic granulomatous disease, rare disorders like Wiskott-Aldrich syndrome and Fanconi anemia, and even HIV infection.
 
“Sickle cell disease is just one of many blood disorders caused by a single mutation in the genome,” Corn said. “It’s very possible that other researchers and clinicians could use this type of gene editing to explore ways to cure a large number of diseases.”
 
“There is a clear path for developing therapies for certain diseases,” said co-senior author Dana Carroll of the University of Utah, who co-developed one of the first genome editing techniques over a decade ago. “It’s very gratifying to see gene editing technology being brought to practical applications.”
 
The work is the fruit of the Innovative Genomics Initiative, a joint effort between UC Berkeley and UCSF that aims to correct DNA mutations that underlie human disease using CRISPR-Cas9, a pioneering technology co-developed by scientists at UC Berkeley that has made genome editing easier and more efficient than ever before.
 
The project also leverages the expertise of physicians and scientists at UCSF Benioff Children’s Hospital Oakland, a major center for research and treatment of sickle cell disease, and Carroll’s expertise in the field of genome engineering.
 
The research is supported by the National Institutes of Health, the Li Ka Shing Foundation, the Siebel Scholars Fund, the Jordan Family Fund and the Doris Duke Charitable Foundation.
https://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2016/10/genome-engineering-paves-the-way-for-sickle-cell-cure/

ochendo809:

A medical laboratory scientist

Writing MLS in lower case is an embarrassment to the profession

INDISPENSIBLE??
Why do I get the impression this thread is more about money than truth? Is the goal here to create the impression that that Laboratory scientists can treat patients on their own? So they are can fleece the ignorant and unsuspecting?
I hope the OP can correct the impression sha.
But....

shoboy9:
INDISPENSIBLE??
Why do I get the impression this thread is more about money than truth? Is the goal here to create the impression that that Laboratory scientists can treat patients on their own? So they are can fleece the ignorant and unsuspecting?
I hope the OP can correct the impression sha.
But....

I'm not sure you understand the OPs post its neither a money nor a path to treating patients. It's more of an enlightenment than what you think. Patient treatment is an interplay of collective efforts (team) and not a one man riot.