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Allegory Of The Ball by SeunLanLege(m): 10:05pm On Oct 19, 2016
Person 1: I have a ball.

Person 2: Really? Prove it.

Person 1: You can't prove the ball doesn't exist!, the ball lives in the sky!, the ball works in mysterious ways!, the ball is a spirit! , you need to believe in the ball to see it!

Person 2:

Without a doubt, from this conversation even the religious ones would agree that person 1 is as crazy as they come. But replace "Ball" with "God" and their religious bias is switched on and they'll tell you person 2 is the one who's as crazy as they come.

This allegory doesn't seek to start another Theist vs Atheist debate (Frankly I don't have time for that,Goodluck debating yourself ).
It only outlines that religion and logic are incompatible, and religious people are biased when it comes to logically examining their beliefs.

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Re: Allegory Of The Ball by hopefulLandlord: 10:28pm On Oct 28, 2016
Nice one
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by EyeHateGod: 5:28am On Oct 29, 2016
grin Nice thread
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by hopefulLandlord: 5:07pm On Dec 29, 2016
nice analogy
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by DoctorAlien(m): 10:16pm On Dec 29, 2016
SCENE ONE

Person 1: I have a GOD. He created all that is seen and unseen. He predated matter, space and time. No one can see Him. He is a Spirit and, thus, invisible. However people who are pure in heart will see Him one day.

Person 2: Because I cannot see GOD, He does not exist.

Person 1: Really? Do you know that you just committed a logical fallacy? It is called "appeal to ignorance."

Person 2: ...

Person 1: Anyway, GOD has made Himself seen in the Person of Jesus Christ. Anyone who has encountered Jesus has encountered the Person of GOD.

Person 2: (starts shouting) GOD does not exist! GOD does not exist! GOD does not exist! GOD does n...(light fades)

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Re: Allegory Of The Ball by DoctorAlien(m): 10:26pm On Dec 29, 2016
SCENE TWO

(Person 1 enters and meets Person 2 still yelling...)

Person 2: (on top of his voice) ...ot exist! I can't see GOD! Therefore He does not exist. GOD does not exist!

Person 1: Okay, Okay Okay. I have a question for you: does the electron exist?

Person 2: (almost immediately) Yes of course.

Person 1: Have you seen an electron before?

Person 2: (stammers...) Erm... Scientists have seen the electron.

Person 1. If scientists have seen the electron: is it a zero-radius point or does it have a radius? What is its radius?

Person 2: ... (starts shouting after 10 seconds) GOD does not exist! GOD does not exist! GOD does not...

*light fades*

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Re: Allegory Of The Ball by akintom(m): 10:30pm On Dec 29, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Person 1: I have a GOD. He created all that is seen and unseen. He predated matter, space and time. No one can see Him. He is a Spirit and, thus, invisible. However people who are pure in heart will see Him one day.

Person 2: Because I cannot see GOD, he does not exist.

Person 1: Really? Do you know that you just committed a logical fallacy? It is called "appeal to ignorance."


This is highly unfortunate that you of all apologists on parade here, will still be romancing this " appeal to ignorance" argument, which has been consigned to conclusive invalid ground.
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by akintom(m): 10:38pm On Dec 29, 2016
DoctorAlien:
SCENE ONE

Person 1: I have a GOD. He created all that is seen and unseen. He predated matter, space and time. No one can see Him. He is a Spirit and, thus, invisible. However people who are pure in heart will see Him one day.)

Before you gallop into meaninglessness, the first question is: by what means did you "know" this your outrageous claims?
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by DoctorAlien(m): 10:54pm On Dec 29, 2016
akintom:


Before you gallop into meaninglessness, the first question is: by what means did you "know" this your outrageous claims?

By the means of my encounter with GOD.
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by mohamedali(m): 11:20pm On Dec 29, 2016
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Re: Allegory Of The Ball by akintom(m): 7:45am On Dec 30, 2016
DoctorAlien:


By the means of my encounter with GOD.


Encounter of this nature i guess?
https://www.nairaland.com/3538407/what-encounter-god

You certainly expected me to take seriously, your singular experience, that can possibly be a symptoms of some psychedelic behavior secondary to organic damage or chemical intercourse with some brain centers?
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by DoctorAlien(m): 11:15am On Dec 30, 2016
akintom:



Encounter of this nature i guess?
https://www.nairaland.com/3538407/what-encounter-god

You certainly expected me to take seriously, your singular experience, that can possibly be a symptoms of some psychedelic behavior secondary to organic damage or chemical intercourse with some brain centers?

You have said it all: my encounter with GOD could be real and genuine.

Or not.

You can't tell. But it will become fallacy on your part to label it alse false/delusion when you really can't tell.
Re: Allegory Of The Ball by akintom(m): 3:45pm On Dec 30, 2016
DoctorAlien:
SCENE ONE

Person 1: I have a GOD. He created all that is seen and unseen. He predated matter, space and time. No one can see Him. He is a Spirit and, thus, invisible. However people who are pure in heart will see Him one day.







DoctorAlien:


You have said it all: my encounter with GOD could be real and genuine.
.
You don't get. How did you come about or "know", that what you interacted with in your "encounter" is named God?





DoctorAlien:

You can't tell. But it will become fallacy on your part to label it alse false/delusion when you really can't tell.
When you come up with the assertion of yours, that i quoted above, without empirical evidence, even a toddler will define you as lower in intelligence compared to him/her.

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