Assange: Clinton is a cog for Goldman Sachs & the Saudis (JOHN PILGER EXCLUSIVE VIDEO & TRANSCRIPT)
Publicado: 5 Nov 2016 | 05:59 GMT

Whistleblower Julian Assange has given one of his most incendiary interviews ever in a John Pilger Special, courtesy of Dartmouth Films, in which he summarizes what can be gleaned from the tens of thousands of Clinton emails released by WikiLeaks this year.
John Pilger, another Australian émigré, conducted the 25-minute interview at the Ecuadorian Embassy, where Assange has been trapped since 2012 for fear of extradition to the US. Last month, Assange had his internet access cut off for alleged “interference” in the American presidential election through the work of his website.

‘Clinton made FBI look weak, now there is anger’

John Pilger: What’s the significance of the FBI's intervention in these last days of the U.S. election campaign, in the case against Hillary Clinton?

Julian Assange: If you look at the history of the FBI, it has become effectively America's political police. The FBI demonstrated this by taking down the former head of the CIA [General David Petraeus] over classified information given to his mistress. Almost no-one is untouchable. The FBI is always trying to demonstrate that no-one can resist us. But Hillary Clinton very conspicuously resisted the FBI's investigation, so there’s anger within the FBI because it made the FBI look weak. We've published about 33,000 of Clinton's emails when she was Secretary of State. They come from a batch of just over 60,000 emails, [of which] Clinton has kept about half – 30,000 -- to herself, and we've published about half.

Then there are the Podesta emails we've been publishing. [John] Podesta is Hillary Clinton’s primary campaign manager, so there’s a thread that runs through all these emails; there are quite a lot of pay-for-play, as they call it, giving access in exchange for money to states, individuals and corporations. [These emails are] combined with the cover up of the Hillary Clinton emails when she was Secretary of State, [which] has led to an environment where the pressure on the FBI increases.

‘Russian government not the source of Clinton leaks’

JP: The Clinton campaign has said that Russia is behind all of this, that Russia has manipulated the campaign and is the source for WikiLeaks and its emails.

JA: The Clinton camp has been able to project that kind of neo-McCarthy hysteria: that Russia is responsible for everything. Hilary Clinton stated multiple times, falsely, that seventeen U.S. intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That is false; we can say that the Russian government is not the source.

WikiLeaks has been publishing for ten years, and in those ten years, we have published ten million documents, several thousand individual publications, several thousand different sources, and we have never got it wrong.

‘Saudi Arabia & Qatar funding ISIS and Clinton’

JP: The emails that give evidence of access for money and how Hillary Clinton herself benefited from this and how she is benefitting politically, are quite extraordinary. I’m thinking of when the Qatari representative was given five minutes with Bill Clinton for a million dollar cheque.

JA: And twelve million dollars from Morocco …

JP: Twelve million from Morocco yeah.

JA: For Hillary Clinton to attend [a party].

JP: In terms of the foreign policy of the United States, that’s where the emails are most revealing, where they show the direct connection between Hillary Clinton and the foundation of jihadism, of ISIL, in the Middle East. Can you talk about how the emails demonstrate the connection between those who are meant to be fighting the jihadists of ISIL, are actually those who have helped create it.

JA: There’s an early 2014 email from Hillary Clinton, not so long after she left the State Department, to her campaign manager John Podesta that states ISIL is funded by the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Now this is the most significant email in the whole collection, and perhaps because Saudi and Qatari money is spread all over the Clinton Foundation. Even the U.S. government agrees that some Saudi figures have been supporting ISIL, or ISIS. But the dodge has always been that, well it’s just some rogue Princes, using their cut of the oil money to do whatever they like, but actually the government disapproves.

But that email says that no, it is the governments of Saudi and Qatar that have been funding ISIS.

JP: The Saudis, the Qataris, the Moroccans, the Bahrainis, particularly the Saudis and the Qataris, are giving all this money to the Clinton Foundation while Hilary Clinton is Secretary of State and the State Department is approving massive arms sales, particularly to Saudi Arabia.

JA: Under Hillary Clinton, the world’s largest ever arms deal was made with Saudi Arabia, [worth] more than $80 billion. In fact, during her tenure as Secretary of State, total arms exports from the United States in terms of the dollar value, doubled.

JP: Of course the consequence of that is that the notorious terrorist group called ISIl or ISIS is created largely with money from the very people who are giving money to the Clinton Foundation.

JA: Yes.

JP:That's extraordinary.

‘Clinton has been eaten alive by her ambition’

JA: I actually feel quite sorry for Hillary Clinton as a person because I see someone who is eaten alive by their ambitions, tormented literally to the point where they become sick; they faint as a result of [the reaction] to their ambitions. She represents a whole network of people and a network of relationships with particular states. The question is how does Hilary Clinton fit in this broader network? She's a centralising cog. You’ve got a lot of different gears in operation from the big banks like Goldman Sachs and major elements of Wall Street, and Intelligence and people in the State Department and the Saudis.

She’s the centraliser that inter-connects all these different cogs. She’s the smooth central representation of all that, and ‘all that’ is more or less what is in power now in the United States. It’s what we call the establishment or the DC consensus. One of the more significant Podesta emails that we released was about how the Obama cabinet was formed and how half the Obama cabinet was basically nominated by a representative from City Bank. This is quite amazing.

JP: Didn’t Citybank supply a list …. ?

JA: Yes.

JP: … which turned out to be most of the Obama cabinet.

JA: Yes.

JP: So Wall Street decides the cabinet of the President of the United States?

JA: If you were following the Obama campaign back then, closely, you could see it had become very close to banking interests.

JA: So I think you can’t properly understand Hillary Clinton's foreign policy without understanding Saudi Arabia. The connections with Saudi Arabia are so intimate.

‘Libya is Hillary Clinton’s war’

JP:Why was she so demonstrably enthusiastic about the destruction of Libya? Can you talk a little about just what the emails have told us – told you – about what happened there? Because Libya is such a source for so much of the mayhem now in Syria: the ISIL, jihadism, and so on. And it was almost Hillary Clinton's invasion. What do the emails tell us about that?

JA: Libya, more than anyone else’s war, was Hillary Clinton’s war. Barak Obama initially opposed it. Who was the person championing it? Hillary Clinton. That’s documented throughout her emails. She had put her favoured agent, Sidney Blumenthal, on to that; there’s more than 1700 emails out of the thirty three thousand Hillary Clinton emails that we've published, just about Libya. It’s not that Libya has cheap oil. She perceived the removal of Gaddafi and the overthrow of the Libyan state -- something that she would use in her run-up to the general election for President.

So in late 2011 there is an internal document called the Libya Tick Tock that was produced for Hillary Clinton, and it’s the chronological description of how she was the central figure in the destruction of the Libyan state, which resulted in around 40,000 deaths within Libya; jihadists moved in, ISIS moved in, leading to the European refugee and migrant crisis.

Not only did you have people fleeing Libya, people fleeing Syria, the destabilisation of other African countries as a result of arms flows, but the Libyan state itself err was no longer able to control the movement of people through it. Libya faces along to the Mediterranean and had been effectively the cork in the bottle of Africa. So all problems, economic problems and civil war in Africa -- previously people fleeing those problems didn’t end up in Europe because Libya policed the Mediterranean. That was said explicitly at the time, back in early 2011 by Gaddafi: ‘What do these Europeans think they’re doing, trying to bomb and destroy the Libyan State? There’s going to be floods of migrants out of Africa and jihadists into Europe, and this is exactly what happened.

‘Trump won’t be permitted to win’

JP: You get complaints from people saying, ‘What is WikiLeaks doing? Are they trying to put Trump in the Whitehouse?’

JA: My answer is that Trump would not be permitted to win. Why do I say that? Because he's had every establishment off side; Trump doesn’t have one establishment, maybe with the exception of the Evangelicals, if you can call them an establishment, but banks, intelligence [agencies], arms companies... big foreign money … are all united behind Hillary Clinton, and the media as well, media owners and even journalists themselves.

JP: There is the accusation that WikiLeaks is in league with the Russians. Some people say, ‘Well, why doesn’t WikiLeaks investigate and publish emails on Russia?’

JA: We have published about 800,000 documents of various kinds that relate to Russia. Most of those are critical; and a great many books have come out of our publications about Russia, most of which are critical. Our [Russia]documents have gone on to be used in quite a number of court cases: refugee cases of people fleeing some kind of claimed political persecution in Russia, which they use our documents to back up.

JP: Do you yourself take a view of the U.S. election? Do you have a preference for Clinton or Trump?

JA: [Let’s talk about] Donald Trump. What does he represent in the American mind and in the European mind? He represents American white trash, [which Hillary Clinton called] ‘deplorable and irredeemable’. It means from an establishment or educated cosmopolitan, urbane perspective, these people are like the red necks, and you can never deal with them. Because he so clearly -- through his words and actions and the type of people that turn up at his rallies -- represents people who are not the middle, not the upper middle educated class, there is a fear of seeming to be associated in any way with them, a social fear that lowers the class status of anyone who can be accused of somehow assisting Trump in any way, including any criticism of Hillary Clinton. If you look at how the middle class gains its economic and social power, that makes absolute sense......

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How anyone in their right minds would consider voting this woman beats me.

A lot of evil is going on among America elites, imagine divide and rule policy that has been going on for long in Nigeria and other countries remote controled from America, that is why they all want an internal person to be president, Trump will expose them when he becomes president

newbornmacho:
How anyone in their right minds would consider voting this woman beats me.

Maybe you should look up to the skies for answers. I my self still can't understand how a sane person would want such a despicable warmongering criminal to be his president.

But that's why man is very unique and unpredictable.

If you look at the interview very well,you will understand why Clinton is so influential. First she was a former secretary of state. Then she has a long line of very powerful establishments behind her.I'm talking about groups like arms manufacturers, military, banks,oil coys,press,Oil princes of middle east,CIA etc.All these interest groups are helping to sway the election towards Clinton's way,but the final say will lay with voters even though it seems the electoral process has already been comprised.

maxxx:
If you look at the interview very well,you will understand why Clinton is so influential. First she was a former secretary of state. Then she has a long line of very powerful establishments behind her.I'm talking about groups like arms manufacturers, military, banks,oil coys,press,Oil princes of middle east,CIA etc.All these interest groups are helping to sway the election towards Clinton's way,but the final say will lay with voters even though it seems the electoral process has already been comprised.

Compromised you mean. Yes i agree with you. But let's hope the Yankees fight back against special interests. Hillary is just a basket case of corruption.

newbornmacho:
How anyone in their right minds would consider voting this woman beats me.

Only terrorists and their Jihadist sympathisers.

A vote for Trump is a Vote for #WorldPeace

EzeNri:

Only terrorists and their Jihadist sympathisers.

#WorldPeace

Stay off my mentions, stranger!

Appleyard:


Maybe you should look up to the skies for answers. I my self still can't understand how a sane person would want such a despicable warmongering criminal to be his president.

But that's why man is very unique and unpredictable.

Appleyard, I guess tens of millions of us that supports Hillary is not sane. Good to know that you know about America more than we do. FYI, I waited in line for almost 3 hours to vote for your despised Hillary and I am damn sure she will be my next Presidente.

By Not voting Trump the world would have lost the opportunity to put a stop to the rapid growth of Islamic terrorism

PaulIdu:
By Not voting Trump the world would have lost the opportunity to put a stop to the rapid growth of Islamic terrorism

I don't know why you guys are so worried about America than your own Nigeria ?. It's baffling to me that with all the corruption and mismanagement going on in your neck of the wood, America is your numero uno concern.

Lucasbalo:
I don't know why you guys are so worried about America than your own Nigeria ?. It's baffling to me that with all the corruption and mismanagement going on in your neck of the wood, America is your numero uno concern.

We are concerned about Nigeria but see this as an opportunity to put a cog in the wheels of Islamic terrorism ..If you hate Islamic terrorist the way I do then you will have no choice but pray for a Trump win

PaulIdu:


We are concerned about Nigeria but see this as an opportunity to put a cog in the wheels of Islamic terrorism ..If you hate Islamic terrorist the way I do then you will have no choice but pray for a Trump win

I hate all terrorists period. Dylan Roof, a white guy walked into a church during a bible study class and killed nine black church members . Timothy McVeigh killed over 300 people in Oklahoma City with bombs. Both of this white guys are evangelical white racists. I am a Christian myself and terrorist is a disease afflicting all religions. Americans have hundreds of reasons we consider before voting but I don't expect you to know that. There's a saying here in America that Americans are not one issue voter.

Lucasbalo:
Appleyard, I guess tens of millions of us that supports Hillary is not sane. Good to know that you know about America more than we do. FYI, I waited in line for almost 3 hours to vote for your despised Hillary and I am damn sure she will be my next Presidente.

Don't misunderstand or misquote me deliberately. Anything we do or say is based on our belief systems and individual sense of perception. As long as I am a rational being with a live conscience, a candidate who glories in war, blood and murder of another country's leader, will never be my choice, if the onus is solely on me to choose. But like I said, that's what makes man a unique being - the ability to make choices based on freewill. A sane person can make the wrong choice not because he or she became insane overnight, but simply because he took that path based on certain ideological and egocentric based views. And when another sane person questioned or marvel at such stance, it only denote ideological differentials and discrepancies in individuals beliefs and interpretations; rather than insult or smearing of personal intelligence.

At the end thereof, we only hope for the better.


Good election to you Americans....

Lucasbalo:
I hate all terrorists period. Dylan Roof, a white guy walked into a church during a bible study class and killed nine black church members . Timothy McVeigh killed over 300 people in Oklahoma City with bombs. Both of this white guys are evangelical white racists. I am a Christian myself and terrorist is a disease afflicting all religions. Americans have hundreds of reasons we consider before voting but I don't expect you to know that. There's a saying here in America that Americans are not one issue voter.

I told you that Trump will win hands down