Your business with Funjosh is the CACCF brother that you claimed died. am a CACCFITES member same set as Howmon was just waiting for you to mentioned his name. SHAME! SHAME!! SHAME!!!

HardMirror:


I have noticed you, I know you crave my attention so much. What's my business with funjosh?
Obviously cos I have been replying those other two and ignoring you, you are seeking relevance

damogul:


This is the point i am trying to make here. I only asked one question and that question is what has brought us thus far. What are the chances that the first and only question i asked is revealing itself to all of us that he lied about it.

This particular lie is a part of the whole elaborately told story so its highly probable that his entire story was made up especially since he confessed in his email to Howmon that there are memory inaccuracies in his story.

Its pretty much cut and dry. His story was an elaborately told lie yet he claimed it was "A GENUINE STORY"

You are a joke.
You only asked one question?
You?
Are you howmon?
Howmon asked that question not you. You have been calling me a liar besides all sorts of names for so long with nothing tangible to hold on to, here you are taking glory for a question howmon asked.
This is just so funny.

HardMirror:

You are a joke.
You only asked one question?
You?
Are you howmon?
Howmon asked that question not you. You have been calling me a liar besides all sorts of names for so long with nothing tangible to hold on to, here you are taking glory for a question howmon asked.
This is just so funny.

If i called you a liar earlier am i not being justified now? Get your head twisted on right boy because its not quite in place today.

I echoed Howmons question and you felt it was better to respond to Howmon instead. He has also presented evidence and his evidence clearly shows you lied.

On this same thread you claimed having knowledge of the brother who died but in your email to howmon you claimed to have forgotten the name. You also confessed to memory inaccuracies in your story. Need i say more?

The vernacular people call what you are doing Ogboju. The whites call it Dutch Courage!

Hardmirror, there are some things you can still do to retain part of your image

1. apologize and say that your story wasn't 100% true life story( you already admitted that human memory can be inaccurate) .

2. Post any certificate that can prove you were an ASF evangelist, you can blur your name.


Note:
I don't attend campus fellowship but I know they award a lot of certificates even irrelevant ones

lilbest4:
Hardmirror, there are some things you can still do to retain part of your image

1. apologize and say that your stories wasn't 100% true life story( you already admitted that human memory can be inaccurate) .

2. Post any certificate that can prove you were an ASF evangelist, you can blur your name.


Note:
I don't attend campus fellowship but I know they award a lot of certificates even irrelevant ones

Seems you are not reading me well. I have no apology to anyone.. I have no other past than the one I have presented to you in "pastor to atheist" thread. If you want to join the gang of those calling me liar, pls do, I don't even feel hurt. I have members of my fellowship reaching out to me and praying for me so I can find christ again. Apart from them, everyone else can do what they like, I don't feel it in any way. Truth is it's not so hard to verify my story, but many have chosen to latch on to the dead brother's name. I have repeated this over and over. I stand by my story.

lilbest4:

2. Post any certificate that can prove you were an ASF evangelist, you can blur your name.


Note:
I don't attend campus fellowship but I know they award a lot of certificates even irrelevant ones

As for 2 that's not a proof oh, I can ask for someone else's certificate and blur the name on it. HardMirror would likely do that given how desperate he seems.

TheSixthSense:
So many aspersions being hurled around. I'm disappointed just managed to read to the end. A lot of christians cannot see the fraud in their pastors right in front of them every Sunday then talk of telling which story is true or not. What is so difficult to believe that a fervent christian can
,......





Meanwhile, Jesus Saves!!! 'If you continue in My word, you are truly My disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.'

Hi my Friend.
I perfectly agree with you. The OP is likely speaking the truth. He may have embellished the story in one or two places however, I think I believe his story.

The OP is suffering from "Anti-Power Syndrome". Sorry, I had to coin that phrase:

"Anti-Power Syndrome" is a common experience within the christian ministers circle. It is an experience that can only be understood with experience. Let me try to explain it.

You prayed, a miracle happens BUT you feel nothing (nothing moved nor changed inside you). You are wondering,
this thing that just happened was it a coincidence?
Is the recipient faking it?
Yet the person is ecstatic, jumping up and down or the demonized person is manifesting.

You discover that whenever a miracle happens, its really not about you. You feel empty maybe it is not me! That is the syndrome. The OP broke down because he used to think that he had some power only to realize that he really doesn't control or own the power.

Nice observation.

paulGrundy:


As for 2 that's not a proof oh, I can ask for someone else's certificate and blur the name on it. HardMirror would likely do that given how desperate he seems.

I have more than enough. My time has not come. I am not desperate. Infact it is good how I am being labeled now. So when I am ready I can have a good laugh at all you folks as you scramble to find other excuses. I am sure the next line will be that I was using satanic powers for things I did.

HardMirror:

I have more than enough. My time has not come. I am not desperate. Infact it is good how I am being labeled now. So when I am ready I can have a good laugh at all you folks as you scramble to find other excuses. I am sure the next line will be that I was using satanic powers for things I did.

You are far gone but do not know it yet. You no longer have the ability to recognize a glowing opportunity to simmer down the whole situation even when offered you.

Right now you are all alone. Even the Atheist Community is leaving you out to dry all alone. You might say you also do not care about them which i expect would be your response but that would not stop the countdown. The only thing that would stop it is either you own up or you mention the name.

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damogul:



I thought the sole purpose of this thread was for others to assess your story for truth or lies and here you are trying to assess yourself by yourself and giving yourself excellent grades?

smh FutaMirror.

I am still waiting for the answer to my question.

I prefer sadmirror or better still why not just call him by his name 'collins'. Lagbaja has indeed been unmasked

HardMirror

Not so fast. I called a brother from the fellowship and he claimed also not to know of such a person, he knows those who fit into the description but says he knows none that died.

Again according to you, you called external sources and even they said nothing of that nature happened.

Another sister says she recalls but can't recall, but if I told you what she said fully, it may become the new subject of discussion.

How can somebody "recall" yet can't "recall?

Also we are not interested in whatever else you allege she said.

Fact still remains I know a brother who organizes prayers, he even uses our fellowship tent sometimes. He died of ulcer and I knew he fasted almost everyday. There are several limitations I am having in getting his name now. But I stand by my claims

You know all these details and how he fasts almost everyday yet you do not know (remember) his name?

EsanEmmanuel, FunJosh and HowMon thanks for your contributions but for the record as FUTARIANS and active members of CACCF please can you help one last time by telling us if anyone died in 2010 who was a member of the fellowship even if it was not via Ulcer or fasting related issues.

This damogul has earned his stripes as Sherlock Holmes He don't play.

since morning..this thread has never been uninhabited...amazing!

TheSixthSense:
This damogul has earned his stripes as Sherlock Holmes He don't play.

You know Nairaland is where anyone can come and make any and every claims due to its faceless nature and nobody bothers much about authenticating anything. However when something is being noticed over and over again and allowed to continue due to inaction it then begins to look like truth.

For probably the first time on Nairaland an attempt has been made to vet a tale of two mirrors and we can all see the result of that.

confessions being brought forward without coercion, information being hoarded, memories being conveniently lost and inaccuracies in the stories being confessed to.

In the judicial system its like a man who committed Murder but got to court and ended up pleading guilty so his charge would be commuted to a lesser offence of Manslaughter. But in the law GUILTY IS GUILTY!

All in the name of disracing Christ, you end up being disgraced

raphieMontella:
since morning..this thread has never been uninhabited...amazing!

Thats what happens when you draw undue attention to yourself and get people to believe and trust your words while all along your words were not reliable in the first place.

Its like trying to be the leader of a rebel army and rallying and boosting the morale of your army with a very bold pep talk and vow to them you would be the first into battle when the enemy comes.

Then when the enemy does come and in the face of battle you turn tail and run even before the first arrow is fired without considering the same army you led to the warfront who have been looking up to you.

This tale of two mirrors is a sad, shameful and demoralizing one indeed!

I'm beyond outstanded why anyone would claim to be a former pastor and now he is an atheist if indeed he isn't a Satanist. What's that to be proud of? To all the unassuming atheists that are used to joining the bandwagon of atheism. Take note. Some of these atheists actually have motives and they know who they worship. This is someone that said there are spirits and demons but there is no God and now arrogantly insisting his fable is valid.
If you want to become an atheist, do so after you have done your research on the spiritual then conclude for yourself.
Abeg, Agent Damogul reopen the case of Dr Belarus and that Otemanunduno or whatever his name is. They should be brought to light. This light is infra-red and thermo no hiding. God don catch them

damogul:



You know Nairaland is where anyone can come and make any and every claims due to its faceless nature and nobody bothers much about authenticating anything. However when something is being noticed over and over again and allowed to continue due to inaction it then begins to look like truth.

For probably the first time on Nairaland an attempt has been made to vet a tale of two mirrors and we can all see the result of that.

confessions being brought forward without coercion, information being hoarded, memories being conveniently lost and inaccuracies in the stories being confessed to.

In the judicial system its like a man who committed Murder but got to court and ended up pleading guilty so his charge would be commuted to a lesser offence of Manslaughter. But in the law GUILTY IS GUILTY!

yorhmienerd:
All in the name of disracing Christ, you end up being disgraced

but it wasn't the Christ that found out na

damogul:
EsanEmmanuel, FunJosh and HowMon thanks for your contributions but for the record as FUTARIANS and active members of CACCF please can you help one last time by telling us if anyone died in 2010 who was a member of the fellowship even if it was not via Ulcer or fasting related issues.

.
I'm a CACCFite, I av been active in the fellowship since 2006 and I graduated 2012, there is nothing of such, our fellowship presidents right from d said years av been contacted, and nothing of such.
.
This story is a typical and FAT LIE from the pit of hell.

jonbellion:
but it wasn't the Christ that found out na

But the disciples of Christ found out, the main reason he(hardmirror) opened the first thread was to shame Christ, you know the rest

TheSixthSense:
I'm beyond outstanded why anyone would claim to be a former pastor and now he is an atheist if indeed he isn't a Satanist. What's that to be proud of? To all the unassuming atheists that are used to joining the bandwagon of atheism. Take note. Some of these atheists actually have motives and they know who they worship. This is someone that said there are spirits and demons but there is no God and now arrogantly insisting his fable is valid.
If you want to become an atheist, do so after you have done your research on the spiritual then conclude for yourself.
Abeg, Agent Damogul reopen the case of Dr Belarus and that Otemanunduno or whatever his name is. They should be brought to light. This light is infra-red and thermo no hiding. God don catch them

Otems time is coming same way this is Hardmirrors time. What is happening here is nobodys making but a divine set up.

Somehow the issue of Hardmirror popped up and then hopefullandlord kept insisting we should point out his lies and I told him to open a thread to the effect.

Few minutes after telling him that, a trigger happy mod pushes hardmirrors pastor to atheist thread to front page which alerted all the FUTARIANS who have been in the dark about it. Then hopefullandlord ignorantly went ahead to open this thread on refuting his lies and mentioned us anf got hardmirror to endorse it.

As you can see, The CACCF futa members stole the show.

"The wisdom of this world is foolishness unto God for it is written, He catches the wise in their craftiness"

AKOBIJ:

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I'm a CACCFite, I av been active in the fellowship since 2006 and I graduated 2012, there is nothing of such, our fellowship presidents right from d said years av been contacted, and nothing of such.
.
This story is a typical and FAT LIE from the pit of hell.

Witness number 5 also steps up to refute Hardmirrors claims.

Can everyone be lying and he alone be saying the truth?

This guy [Hardmirror] is never a pastor, if truly you are, answer dis qtns...
1. When and how did God call you into ministry? (I mean personal encounter with God)
2. Which pastor ordained you (name pls) and which ministry (denomination) were u ordinated? (name and location).
3. Which Bible School do u attend? (with proof, if there is any)
4. Who is ur mentor then or father in the Lord?
.
With all dis ur claims, an investigation av started with all d names u mentioned, because personally I knew dem All and relates 2some of dem.
The likes of Rev. Ogundare, Pst Charles (Dream centre) and d Pastor/Dr. U described in mechanical engineering (Dats even my father).
.
I pray God 4give you and devinely REACTIVATE ur life, in Jesus name, Amen.

that awkward moment when an atheist opens a thread to support his fellow atheist... but then the thread turns around to expose him..

chai... chai... diaris god oooo

everybody is now claiming caccfite sha
wetin concern me? I no talk anything oo

Princess ebuka dey come rena person wayo o

AKOBIJ:
This guy [Hardmirror] is never a pastor, if truly you are, answer dis qtns...
1. When and how did God call you into ministry? (I mean personal encounter with God)
2. Which pastor ordained you (name pls) and which ministry (denomination) were u ordinated? (name and location).
3. Which Bible School do u attend? (with proof, if there is any)
4. Who is ur mentor then or father in the Lord?
.
With all dis ur claims, an investigation av started with all d names u mentioned, because personally I knew dem All and relates 2some of dem.
The likes of Rev. Ogundare, Pst Charles (Dream centre) and d Pastor/Dr. U described in mechanical engineering (Dats even my father).
.
I pray God 4give you and devinely REACTIVATE ur life, in Jesus name, Amen.

My Brother you are even closer to the gist. So his story touched your father. So is there anything you can tell us that shows you also attended FUTA and how you know that what Hardmirror has said are false?

damogul:


Witness number 5 also steps up to refute Hardmirrors claims.

Can everyone be lying and he alone be saying the truth?

chaii
Witness no 5!!

Just wondering where the person that opened this thread is right now...

jonbellion:
chaii Witness no 5!!