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Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Xano(m): 6:19pm On Dec 15, 2016
Seun , many did not register in MMM (I inclusive). Many did, some made profit, some just started this December, paid to but never received.

Seun , stop the front page info about MMM. Many are in tears(anger) about what this Christmas would be for them and their family.

Some read topics about MMM here, they would have heartache, increased blood pressure.

Seun , many did not register to MMM, but we should sympathize with those who are angry, unhappy.

Transferred anger is possible. Those affected be vengeful on unwitting honest people.

Seun , reduce the frequency of MMM topics on this forum for the sympathy sake.
Thank you.

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Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by dannywhyte(m): 7:02pm On Dec 15, 2016
NextGovernor:
Best way to grace front page now is "MMM"

Once u say MMM is mad, Seun will put it on front page. Lol.

I warned my girlfriend, family members and friends not to invest in any of these Schemes. If you are brilliant you ought to know it won't last, not genuine and you can be trapped at anytime. So why taking the risk?

Those shouting it's coming back January how are they going to pay you? You think someone in his right senses will provide help to you when they aren't guarantee of getting the help back?

MMM has crash. Take it or leave it.
why you de take panadol for another man headache?

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Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by dee02(m): 7:18pm On Dec 15, 2016
Smh.... Greed everywhere!!!!
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by vislabraye(m): 7:23pm On Dec 15, 2016
tola09:
*WORD FOR THOUGHT, HELP CIRCULATE IT*You got into many relationships that never worked, and no one is mocking you in public. Yougot into a marriage that crashed, yet your friends are not on facebook celebrating your pain, and you haven't killed yourself yet. Your many attempts at businesses have failed and you lost money, yet you are still alive. You have taken many risks that never paid off, yet you are still moving on with hope.Now you advised your friend not to do MMM, but he went for it anyways. MMM is frozen for 30days, at least so we heard, and you find joy in taking to facebook to mock your friend JUST TO BE PROVED RIGHT. Same way you pray for the failure of the government you didn't vote for JUST TO BE PROVED RIGHT.I have taken time to read the MMM freezing report, it is a shame that you have decided to take that report out of context, add salt and pepper, just to cause panic and unnecessary tension. Many people have fainted because they read your false version of MMM story. Will you also celebrate on facebook if they commit suicide tomorrow on account of your mockery?Even if they were careless in taking risk with MMM, must you add to their sorrow?Don't you have any conscience sire? Are you not a hypocrite?If that young man came to you for help, even to borrow money before MMM, would you have given him? How many of you have helped poor people the way MMM has in the last year(i speak based on the testimonies in the mouth of Nigerians). In October i met a young man in Port Harcourt who moved from someone's house as a squatter to a one-bedroom apartment and i still remember the joy with which He glorified God for MMM. How many people have glorified God for your help and support, STINGY YOU!There is a high level of moral bankruptcy in this nation. People are more willingto celebrate the pains of fellow Nigerians than anything else. It is the same reason they go to accident scenes, and their first impulse is not to help but snap and post gorry pictures on facebook to extract AMEN from people.If you know you have never done things that failed in your life, then continue mocking your MMM friends.......And for the record, MMM has not crashed, it's still alive well.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul sounds like help to you ?
Do you also know how many people have lost their life savings from it ?
You made money from it at the expense of others. You rejoice while others shed tears.
For the record: many people have died as a result of your noble scheme.

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Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by bizhop01: 8:28pm On Dec 15, 2016
My 400000k
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by suremossty(m): 9:30pm On Dec 15, 2016
wins18:
This one na double wahala for dead body, this xmas no go be a happy one for some people,
be warned! know how you say happy xmas to people, because you dont know who is affected by mmm.
Thank you.

The problem here is misinformation, not MMM crashing, and sadly enough, most MMM participants do not even understand what the freeze is about.

Normally when you pay in or provide help, your investment is frozen for two weeks, after which you're eligible to withdraw, but they decided that because of the Xmas rush they should extend that freeze period to one month, so people can only request for money only after a month of confirmed payment, (this one month period is relative to when anyone makes his/her payment, and not a unified one month period: eg. If I make a confirmed payment on the 2nd of December, my one month period will last till the 2nd of January, after which I can withdraw, and if another person makes a confirmed payment on the 7th of December, his one month period will elapse on the 7th of January, after which he can withdraw) so, I am actually surprised why people are making up all these news to scare others, even the MMM participants who never had any reason to complain about the usual two weeks freeze period...Is it because they said the new system will last until second week of January? It only means that freezing period of one complete month will continue to be in practice until second week of January, and not that nobody can withdraw until second week of January.

Please I haven't benefited from MMM (not yet though) , so, I think my insight on the issue isn't biased.
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by suremossty(m): 9:31pm On Dec 15, 2016
DJBIGGY:
what of bankers who use customer money without their knowledge to do MMM? They should be jailed!
Thank you.

The problem here is misinformation, not MMM crashing, and sadly enough, most MMM participants do not even understand what the freeze is about.

Normally when you pay in or provide help, your investment is frozen for two weeks, after which you're eligible to withdraw, but they decided that because of the Xmas rush they should extend that freeze period to one month, so people can only request for money only after a month of confirmed payment, (this one month period is relative to when anyone makes his/her payment, and not a unified one month period: eg. If I make a confirmed payment on the 2nd of December, my one month period will last till the 2nd of January, after which I can withdraw, and if another person makes a confirmed payment on the 7th of December, his one month period will elapse on the 7th of January, after which he can withdraw) so, I am actually surprised why people are making up all these news to scare others, even the MMM participants who never had any reason to complain about the usual two weeks freeze period...Is it because they said the new system will last until second week of January? It only means that freezing period of one complete month will continue to be in practice until second week of January, and not that nobody can withdraw until second week of January.

Please I haven't benefited from MMM (not yet though) , so, I think my insight on the issue isn't biased.
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Laple0541(m): 9:40pm On Dec 15, 2016
softwerk:
And reward those that have made some cool millions for the customers?!


Making cool millions at the expense of other poverty impoverished individuals! God de...
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Lionofdjungle: 9:46pm On Dec 15, 2016
suremossty:
Thank you.

The problem here is misinformation, not MMM crashing, and sadly enough, most MMM participants do not even understand what the freeze is about.

Normally when you pay in or provide help, your investment is frozen for two weeks, after which you're eligible to withdraw, but they decided that because of the Xmas rush they should extend that freeze period to one month, so people can only request for money only after a month of confirmed payment, (this one month period is relative to when anyone makes his/her payment, and not a unified one month period: eg. If I make a confirmed payment on the 2nd of December, my one month period will last till the 2nd of January, after which I can withdraw, and if another person makes a confirmed payment on the 7th of December, his one month period will elapse on the 7th of January, after which he can withdraw) so, I am actually surprised why people are making up all these news to scare others, even the MMM participants who never had any reason to complain about the usual two weeks freeze period...Is it because they said the new system will last until second week of January? It only means that freezing period of one complete month will continue to be in practice until second week of January, and not that nobody can withdraw until second week of January.

Please I haven't benefited from MMM (not yet though) , so, I think my insight on the issue isn't biased.
don't mind people, the problem with many Nigerians is that they can't read between the lines. Those who are shouting aren't the participants but those who wish them bad and who have been looking for avenues to make jest of the participants. I've even decided not to read any trend on MMM again.
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Laple0541(m): 11:55pm On Dec 15, 2016
tola09:
*WORD FOR THOUGHT, HELP CIRCULATE IT*You got into many relationships that never worked, and no one is mocking you in public. Yougot into a marriage that crashed, yet your friends are not on facebook celebrating your pain, and you haven't killed yourself yet. Your many attempts at businesses have failed and you lost money, yet you are still alive. You have taken many risks that never paid off, yet you are still moving on with hope.Now you advised your friend not to do MMM, but he went for it anyways. MMM is frozen for 30days, at least so we heard, and you find joy in taking to facebook to mock your friend JUST TO BE PROVED RIGHT. Same way you pray for the failure of the government you didn't vote for JUST TO BE PROVED RIGHT.I have taken time to read the MMM freezing report, it is a shame that you have decided to take that report out of context, add salt and pepper, just to cause panic and unnecessary tension. Many people have fainted because they read your false version of MMM story. Will you also celebrate on facebook if they commit suicide tomorrow on account of your mockery?Even if they were careless in taking risk with MMM, must you add to their sorrow?Don't you have any conscience sire? Are you not a hypocrite?If that young man came to you for help, even to borrow money before MMM, would you have given him? How many of you have helped poor people the way MMM has in the last year(i speak based on the testimonies in the mouth of Nigerians). In October i met a young man in Port Harcourt who moved from someone's house as a squatter to a one-bedroom apartment and i still remember the joy with which He glorified God for MMM. How many people have glorified God for your help and support, STINGY YOU!There is a high level of moral bankruptcy in this nation. People are more willingto celebrate the pains of fellow Nigerians than anything else. It is the same reason they go to accident scenes, and their first impulse is not to help but snap and post gorry pictures on facebook to extract AMEN from people.If you know you have never done things that failed in your life, then continue mocking your MMM friends.......And for the record, MMM has not crashed, it's still alive well.


Nice, though you tried as much as possible to sound as if you didn't take part in the scheme but it's obvious you either did or someone very close to you did, whichever case, I pray all will be well. However, there is a point I wish to emphasise, the level of stupidity of those (especially the educated ones) that participate in the scheme is what keeps baffling me: Firstly, from research, no scheme of such ever lasted for more than two year in history and MMM is close to that. Secondly, the wonderbanks saga issue is less than a decade ago and I am sure many who partook in this present scheme were not too young then to know how it ended. Thirdly, there had never been a prior warning from the government against any scheme like the one we had against this so called MMM, yet my people turned a deaf ear. Fourthly, what is the credibility of the founder of the scheme? (highly questionable). Even if the account is unfreeze in Jan., fear of this current freezing will make many withdraw. lastly, as you stated, trully few might have become millionaires via this scheme, what about those who will be further impoverished if otherwise? Am not against people taking risks but there are some risks that are not worthy of being taken. I PRAY GOD INTERVENES SO THE ACCOUNT IS UNFREEZE IN JANUARY.
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Horus(m): 4:39am On Dec 16, 2016

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Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Jyde81: 6:13am On Dec 16, 2016
AnonyNymous:

See guy abeg. . .this one is in no way similar to the examples you listed. This MMM nonsense is a way of trying to reap where you didn't sow, which is already wrong from the start. At least for failed marriages, people put in their effort and did things. Failed business involves you using your hands/brain to work. But bullsh*t like MMM is basically defrauding people while lying to yourself and your conscience that its 'mutual help'. MMM fr the start is a 'robbing Peter to pay Paul kind of business, so if you want to list the examples of people that have done successful things because of the money they 'earned' from MMM, then what will you say about the people that the money was 'stolen' from to make those dreams a reality?? MMM is for greedy people that want free money, that want to chop another man's sweat, and that's why I'm happy its gone. I can never support it because its a terrible way to make money. If you have gained just 1 kobo from MMM, you are partially responsible for the deaths of all the people that will commit suicide because it crashed. So take your nonsense and go. *spits*
You think u made sense but u are very ignorant about how MMM works. Have u researched the platform very well b4 arriving at your postulation that peter is been robbed to pay paul? Common stop spitting what u don't know and do more research......Thank you
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by karimcarim(m): 7:18am On Dec 16, 2016
The most interesting news in Nigeria now is MMM and Fayose matter , people are willing to pass there comments on those two matter whenever they see any post credited to them. Nigerian why shocked lipsrsealed cry lipsrsealed
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by riczy(m): 7:34am On Dec 16, 2016
First bank Asaba: is already sacking,39 to receive their dismissal letter today!
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by invectives(m): 7:37am On Dec 16, 2016
*COPIED*

Ubokobong Udeme Akpan nailed it with this piece. Aniekan Inock says it the end or beginning of some sense...

...it's long but revealing

BETWEEN PONZI SCHEME AND FRACTIONAL RESERVE LENDING POLICY: A CASE FOR MMM AND OTHER MUTUAL AID (PEER-TO-PEER DONATION) SCHEMES.

I would start by saying I am an ardent student in the subject of money and currency (Yes, they aren't the same). From the creeping into America's lexicon of "war is profitable" and the severing of dollar from gold by President Nixon (that set a new standard of fiat currencies for the rest of the world), I read about and crave money devotionally. Since I love the subject of money and currency, I had to do my study into the two subjects above. This became necessary as the words "ponzi scheme" first landed on the Nigerian mainstream terrain, an event that coincided with the arrival of MMM 2011.

We hear a lot of publicity about the danger of MMM, about how it is a "ponzi scheme", they keep saying; and how it is doomed to crash. Funnily, I hear these narratives from people who are hurt first hand by the mere existence of this economic bandage from Russia, and also from people whom this scheme is designed to liberate from and assuage their poor standard of living. So I concluded that the rich and powerful are as rich and powerful because the others are lazy and ignorant. That I'm very sure of.

I digressed.

My simple litmus test to ascertain if any antic against MMM is really a decision based on knowledge and research, or simply a "masses reasoning" that exists for the rich and powerful to exploit: I try to engage people in a debate comparing fractional reserve lending legally practiced by financial institutions and the ponzi scheme of Sergei Mavrodi and other Robin Hoods. 99% of the time, they test very blue: they've never even heard of Fractional Reserve Lending, and they first heard the words "ponzi scheme" from Linda Ikeji Blog or Premium Times.

So what exactly is a ponzi scheme? And does MMM really fit as one? I am asking you!

My attempt: I'll spare you the dictionary definition. You can find that with a quick Google search. An analogy that attempts to describe it (one the authorities and other critics have used to describe MMM), because it is the least "jargonless", is simply ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. But that definition falls flat in the face of mutual consent between Peter and Paul. No one is being robbed. Today Paul takes from the pool Peter also contributed into, tomorrow Peter does. Sounds more like very sophisticated "Osusu". Very sophisticated. Since I'm not an expert, pardon my non comprehensive elaboration. But I think its conciseness fits the context.

So how about Fractional Reserve Lending. It's simply a policy that allows a commercial bank to just keep a fraction of the deposit it claims to hold, and is able to use the other in other ventures that are not fully risk-proof; like give out a loan to individuals or government, invest in capital projects or whatever. In other words, Customer A takes N100k to "Second Bank of Nigeria". He gets some sort of digital receipt in the form of a balance back to his home. The law of Fractional Reserve Lending allows the bank to keep just a percentage of that N100k (usually 10%) and engage the other in trade. So Second Bank of Nigeria can then go ahead to give out N90k as loan to Customer B. So customer A has digital receipts, Customer B has N90k in hand. That is 190k in existence without any interest, without any genius from any banker, without any sweat from any marketer. Just the law.

Let's pull both concepts towards a meeting vanishing point. The concept of Ponzi Schemes and Fractional Reserve Lending allows artificial currency to be created into a system. 30% extra Mavros; N100k final balance in an account. Both of these can be converted to cash. You either GH or you communicate with your bank to pay you.

So, the obvious question arises: how are those extra derivatives we created from the ponzi scheme and fractional reserve lending accommodated? The simple answer is that everyone won't go to the bank the same day. Today it's Peter, tomorrow it's Paul. If Paul and Peter go the same day, MMM or Second Bank of Nigeria crashes. That simple.

So if they are so similar, why is one embraced and the other is considered legally and morally criminal?

Let's go back to the illustration. Customer B deposits his 90k in Second Bank for a while or simply takes it to "Gitib Bank". Gitib Bank replicates the process and are able to keep just N9k and loan out N81k to another customer, C. Already N271k has been generated from just 100k physically circulating. The rest are just numbers in computers. Only one person has N100k, two other people owe the banks N171k. Imagine!

Maybe they all loan at a generous interest rate of 5% pa (which never happens). Do the math on the derivatives these banks can create from mere "keeping" of people's currency. Even without any interest on the ricocheted use of people's deposits, those guys will smile to the bank. Oh! They are already at the bank. My bad.

Secondarily, money supply increases, inflation sets in, the keke guy has to work harder to afford the life he lived earlier with less resources and stress. All while some Agbaje or Adenuga guy smiles at his billions made "legally."

Then came Sergei Mavrodi with his concept of creating this pool of increased currency supply, but designed not to benefit him, but to benefit the masses. Not the big owners. Not the government who feed on taxes and can't do anything to hurt compliers. Then came MMM.

If you didn't know this already and was busy criticising, I hope this will help you understand why the huge PR efforts to discredit MMM and dissuade your involvement in it. And I hope you now know that those guys had what they were fighting for, and you didn't. You were just an egotistic opinionist who didn't even know where the gun barrel was pointing. I hope too you realise how foolish you've been all the while.

In conclusion, MMM is actually your friend that you threw out. The real ponzi scheme is the bank. They won't even give you loan to plant a plot, they don't go any extra length to add value to you. It's all business for them. The government is their accomplice and we all know they are worse. Like Sergei asked, "if you know what is right for people, why is the life so bad in the country?"

If a Senator that does not care about your dilapidated learning infrastructure, where you have to go out from and compete in the same market space with folks from Norway and China, if they don't care about your near zero healthcare, why do you suddenly think that they will care about where your business risks lie? How could you be so foolish? The other day I landed in a chat room with folks that are deeply into cryptocurrency and are in far away Europe, and I began to really feel the impact of NOT having power 20 hours out of 24 in the 27 years I've been alive; of taking GST classes in a hall crammed to varendah, under a lecturer who does not even know me; of having to buy internet bundles at exploitative prices and still having to move from kitchen to varendah in search of signal to connect Google. I felt like an illiterate with no hope.

Yet those guys who are benefiting from this ruin want to advise me how to keep my hard-earned money. God punish you guys! I stand with MMM through the trying time. I just PHed 50k. I'll gladly pay that into the system and not expect return if that's the cost of finding its balance again. #IStandWithMavrodi!
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Nobody: 8:12am On Dec 16, 2016
Jyde81:
You think u made sense but u are very ignorant about how MMM works. Have u researched the platform very well b4 arriving at your postulation that peter is been robbed to pay paul? Common stop spitting what u don't know and do more research......Thank you
Lol, you guys still choose to remain delusional. So where is the 'magical' 30% coming from? What work are you doing, what good are you selling/service are you rendering? At least banks make money from the spread in exchange rates and interest from loans. Where is your own money coming from? No matter how you want to look at it, there is absolutely NO WAY to sustain members collecting 30% of their 'investment' without a lot of people eventually losing at the end. MMM is for greedy people like you that want free money. The fact is that nothing in life is free, and when you get something free then someone else is paying the price.

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Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Dent(m): 11:56am On Dec 16, 2016
Why are people so crazy over this mmm scam
Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by Charlieubochi: 10:28am On Apr 20, 2017
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Re: Bankers To Be Sacked For Introducing Customers To MMM by violent(m): 11:24am On Apr 20, 2017
Nigerian Banking is sector is hardly the best place to grow your career

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