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Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by Nobody: 1:23am On Oct 05, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
high sounding nonsense. Why does gravity keep the large mass of ocean water, cars trucks, buildings and other massive objects to the ground on a ball spinning earth but will let insects and planes fly. Simple question and your speaking grammar that even you do not understand.
This is how they confuse people into believing their theories.


You're just a mumu


Newton third law every action has an equal and opposite reaction.


Those insect oppose gravity by using the force made by their feathers to go up.

Same thing as air plane engines and light objects like nylons which may go up through force made by wind.


At rest and with no forced those birds will always be attracted to the center of the earth and will pull pulled by gravity back to the earth.


Bird generate upwards force while opposing gravity with their feathers


Air plane do with with their engines


What upward force do oceans have to oppose gravity to go up?


with to external force applied those birds and airplanes will always be attracted to the earth which brings us to famous quote.


Everything that goes up, must come down

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Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by Nobody: 1:31am On Oct 05, 2020
Rossikki:
The earth is surrounded by a huge, thick ice wall. Access to the wall is barred, and 40 countries are involved in guarding it.


You sincerely believe as massive as the earth is, just 40 countries can guard everyone on earth since the time of Abraham from seeing or getting pass the edge of your so called flat earth?


How possible is that?


They'd need an unlimited army to guard all the edges of the earth don't you think?


And with such cold in artatica how do u think your imaginary guards will survive
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by EMILO2STAY(m): 8:25am On Oct 05, 2020
Bonatheripper:



You're just a mumu


Newton third law every action has an equal and opposite reaction.


Those insect oppose gravity by using the force made by their feathers to go up.

Same thing as air plane engines and light objects like nylons which may go up through force made by wind.


At rest and with no forced those birds will always be attracted to the center of the earth and will pull pulled by gravity back to the earth.


Bird generate upwards force while opposing gravity with their feathers


Air plane do with with their engines


What upward force do oceans have to oppose gravity to go up?


with to external force applied those birds and airplanes will always be attracted to the earth which brings us to famous quote.


Everything that goes up, must come down


Some of you should not qualify as human beings but animals. Why should a tiny bird or insect oppose the mighty force of gravity capable of keeping every thing stuck to a spinning ball earth why?. Have you ever seen a crane capable of lifting 20tone weight but cannot lift a balloon because because the balloon has air? If planes can fly in the air and birds or insects can also fly then this fact nullifies the theory that an invisible force is responsible for keeping g things stuck on a spinning ball earth Pls use you head don't be a fool.

The logic and common sense hear is that if gravity is responsible for keeping things stuck to the ball earth then nothing should ever go up, not even jumping can be possible.


why should tiny bird produce a force so powerful than the force of gravity keeping oceans on a ball earth enough to fly in the air. Does this make sense to you or you are just regurgitating what you have been thought without proof.

Can you even prove that gravity exist?

Can you prove that an object with mass can attract other objects with smaller mass?
I await your answer let's see how smart you are or how foolish you are.

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Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by hyuga(m): 7:48am On Oct 08, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
high sounding nonsense. Why does gravity keep the large mass of ocean water, cars trucks, buildings and other massive objects to the ground on a ball spinning earth but will let insects and planes fly. Simple question and your speaking grammar that even you do not understand.
This is how they confuse people into believing their theories.
Relax and read what he typed mahn. The answer to your insect question is there

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Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by Emusan(m): 9:40am On Oct 08, 2020
hyuga:

Relax and read what he typed mahn. The answer to your insect question is there

The funny thing is, how you people will be claiming to have knowledge more than other.

If insect can successfully fly under your almighty gravity, while will ordinary Car radiator suck flies or nylon fly close to it?
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by hyuga(m): 2:17pm On Oct 08, 2020
Emusan:


The funny thing is, how you people will be claiming to have knowledge more than other.

If insect can successfully fly under your almighty gravity, while will ordinary Car radiator suck flies or nylon fly close to it?

Force bro!!! A greater force than the force of the bug or nylon
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by EMILO2STAY(m): 2:28pm On Oct 08, 2020
hyuga:

Relax and read what he typed mahn. The answer to your insect question is there
no it does not. The logic of gravity is that if it can keep everything stuck to a ball, some stuck sideways and others stuck upside down, then it should not let tiny insects fly since it is powerful enough to keep things far heavier than insect stuck on the spinning ball earth.
A force of such immense power should not even let people jump in the air.

It like saying a crane which can lift 500ton weight cannot lift a feather because of air. Does that make sense to you?
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by hyuga(m): 8:11pm On Oct 08, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
no it does not. The logic of gravity is that if it can keep everything stuck to a ball, some stuck sideways and others stuck upside down, then it should not let tiny insects fly since it is powerful enough to keep things far heavier than insect stuck on the spinning ball earth.
A force of such immense power should not even let people jump in the air.

It like saying a crane which can lift 500ton weight cannot lift a feather because of air. Does that make sense to you?

In the case of the insect, it's opposing gravity by flapping it's wings very fast supported by it's light weight, the air aids it's will. The force or energy a bigger object needs to push against gravity is also increased due to its weight say plane, rocket etc. What happens when the said wings or force that helped these things stay afloat is shut down? They come crashing back to how gravity wants them to be. This isn't any physics but something we can just see and think about
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:01pm On Oct 08, 2020
hyuga:


In the case of the insect, it's opposing gravity by flapping it's wings very fast supported by it's light weight, the air aids it's will. The force or energy a bigger object needs to push against gravity is also increased due to its weight say plane, rocket etc. What happens when the said wings or force that helped these things stay afloat is shut down? They come crashing back to how gravity wants them to be. This isn't any physics but something we can just see and think about
why should a tiny insect over power a force so strong it can gum down large body of ocean water, tons of houses, cars, trains and human beings to a spinning ball? If tiny mosquito can over power such a force then the force produced by that mosquito is more powerful than anything i in this world to oppose a force that gums tones of ocean water to a spinning ball earth. Have you seen such a mosquito before? Have you seen a mosquito that is powerful enough to pull the weight of the whole earth up? Does this sound reasonable to you? Yet this is what you are insinuating and you say we can all see, have you seen because I have not seen.

does it not occur to you that these things have mass and buoyancy and are lifted up by aerodynamics of the flap of their wings to the air, and when they stop they simply fall back due to their mass and buoyancy ? Now let me ask you; have you been on a scale before? Where you climb and check your weight, when you weigh 120kg and another 80kg is it your weight due to your mass or the pressure of gravity on you that reads on the scale?

If gravity is pressing things downwards then every body will weigh the same because our weight is not what the scale should be reading but the pressure of gravity pressing on us.

What is wrong with people that they choose to believe utter nonsense than what is laid bare faced physically before there own eyes.

Pls answer me if it is your weight that reads on a scale or the pressure of gravity on you that reads on. The scale.
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Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by Emusan(m): 7:25am On Oct 09, 2020
hyuga:

Force bro!!! A greater force than the force of the bug or nylon
Make your point clear!
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by hyuga(m): 12:18am On Oct 10, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
why should a tiny insect over power a force so strong it can gum down large body of ocean water, tons of houses, cars, trains and human beings to a spinning ball? If tiny mosquito can over power such a force then the force produced by that mosquito is more powerful than anything i in this world to oppose a force that gums tones of ocean water to a spinning ball earth. Have you seen such a mosquito before? Have you seen a mosquito that is powerful enough to pull the weight of the whole earth up? Does this sound reasonable to you? Yet this is what you are insinuating and you say we can all see, have you seen because I have not seen.

does it not occur to you that these things have mass and buoyancy and are lifted up by aerodynamics of the flap of their wings to the air, and when they stop they simply fall back due to their mass and buoyancy ? Now let me ask you; have you been on a scale before? Where you climb and check your weight, when you weigh 120kg and another 80kg is it your weight due to your mass or the pressure of gravity on you that reads on the scale?

If gravity is pressing things downwards then every body will weigh the same because our weight is not what the scale should be reading but the pressure of gravity pressing on us.

What is wrong with people that they choose to believe utter nonsense than what is laid bare faced physically before there own eyes.

Pls answer me if it is your weight that reads on a scale or the pressure of gravity on you that reads on. The scale.
.

Gravity I believe is directly proportional to weight/mass meaning the heavier the object the harder or the note it requires much more to escape the pull force of gravity. A 10kg bag of feather would reach the ground as the same time a 10kg brick. Meaning the weight is in play along with gravity here. Fir your question, it's your weight proportional to the gravity pull
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by EMILO2STAY(m): 7:28am On Oct 10, 2020
hyuga:


Gravity I believe is directly proportional to weight/mass meaning the heavier the object the harder or the note it requires much more to escape the pull force of gravity. A 10kg bag of feather would reach the ground as the same time a 10kg brick. Meaning the weight is in play along with gravity here. Fir your question, it's your weight proportional to the gravity pull
you cannot have mass and gravity at the same time it must be one or the other. Because there would be no way to determine your true mass or which is which.

In the real world what we know and see is weight due to mass and not weight due to an invisible force Called gravity. There is no experiment in the real world showing where a massive object attracts less massive objects as it is said in the case of gravity.

In your own words "GRAVITY IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO WEIGHT AND MASS MEANING THE HEAVIER THE OBJECT THE HARDER IT IS TO ESCAPE THE FORCE OF GRAVITY". You just shot your self on the foot and contradicted yourself and the entire science community.

If the above statement is true, then why is Jupiter the biggest planet going around the sun instead of crashing into it? or the moon orbiting the earths atmosphere instead of the earths gravity
Pulling it straight down and keeping it stuck. If this earths gravity does not attract the heaviest object in it own atmosphere then how come it is said to be keeping heavier things stuck to it? Pls answer me.


If gravity is true as defined by science to be where heavy balls or objects produce gravitational pull then the more massive the object on the earth the lighter it should be because that massive object would be producing its own gravity to oppose the earths gravity and thus making it lighter as in the case of the earths moon orbiting instead of crashing.

So you cannot say gravity is attracted to an object by the virtue of their mass that is just a silly excuse they came up with because they know their science is flawed. From gravity is a force to gravity is an attraction that creates dent in space time.

If gravity is attracted to objects by virtue of their weight and mass then the moon which should be the heaviest object in the earths atmosphere should have been pulled by the earths gravity and crashed into the earth by now since the force of gravity should be stronger on the moon by virtue of its mass Why is this not happening?


You don't answer for the sake of it. For you to make a reasonable argument that qualifies as true science then you have to present realistic answers that can be witness by observable, repeatable and testable experiment which the human common senses can attest to.

All you present are theories which does not hold water and not found in the real world. It is garbage and should be discarded.
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by hyuga(m): 10:08am On Oct 10, 2020
EMILO2STAY:
you cannot have mass and gravity at the same time it must be one or the other. Because there would be no way to determine your true mass or which is which.

In the real world what we know and see is weight due to mass and not weight due to an invisible force Called gravity. There is no experiment in the real world showing where a massive object attracts less massive objects as it is said in the case of gravity.

In your own words "GRAVITY IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO WEIGHT AND MASS MEANING THE HEAVIER THE OBJECT THE HARDER IT IS TO ESCAPE THE FORCE OF GRAVITY". You just shot your self on the foot and contradicted yourself and the entire science community.

If the above statement is true, then why is Jupiter the biggest planet going around the sun instead of crashing into it? or the moon orbiting the earths atmosphere instead of the earths gravity
Pulling it straight down and keeping it stuck. If this earths gravity does not attract the heaviest object in it own atmosphere then how come it is said to be keeping heavier things stuck to it? Pls answer me.


If gravity is true as defined by science to be where heavy balls or objects produce gravitational pull then the more massive the object on the earth the lighter it should be because that massive object would be producing its own gravity to oppose the earths gravity and thus making it lighter as in the case of the earths moon orbiting instead of crashing.

So you cannot say gravity is attracted to an object by the virtue of their mass that is just a silly excuse they came up with because they know their science is flawed. From gravity is a force to gravity is an attraction that creates dent in space time.

If gravity is attracted to objects by virtue of their weight and mass then the moon which should be the heaviest object in the earths atmosphere should have been pulled by the earths gravity and crashed into the earth by now since the force of gravity should be stronger on the moon by virtue of its mass Why is this not happening?


You don't answer for the sake of it. For you to make a reasonable argument that qualifies as true science then you have to present realistic answers that can be witness by observable, repeatable and testable experiment which the human common senses can attest to.

All you present are theories which does not hold water and not found in the real world. It is garbage and should be discarded.





Before you say many of the previous theories and experiment are flawed, has there been a counter experiment or it's just simply qualitative reasoning? I'm no physicist but we can use our reasoning based on the theories and things we've come to learn about our universe so far.

The gravity on every planet varies so you can't expect to have same effect here to others. I believe we can say everything in the universe works to meet a balance and with that we can also say the earth's gravity is what's keeping the moon where it is. The moon as you might have read somewhere is slightly floating away, if the moon was a bit heavier than what we have now it's very possible for it to get more attracted to our core and closing the distance between us.

Jupiter not crashing could simply be because it's a gas planet and as we know, bigger doesn't necessarily mean heavier so that might have been it's saving grace so being lighter with it's own lesser mass might have made it maintain it's orbit. All these are just reasonings based on what we know and you sef if you haven't gotten there yourself don't tell me it's a fact.

We can keep going round about this but so far, this THEORIES and FLAWED words has been what's taken us this far in the scientific world. I do enjoy your arguments but as you reason those way also consider the universe balancing itself and every planet having it's own nature thereby maintaining their orbit. There's a software (something playground or so) that you can install on your PC where values of objects can be changed to see what effect it can produce. This software is however based on our gravitational calculations and findings that we already grew up to know. If you can get your hands on it, change the mass of jupiter or any planet and watch the simulation. That's as far as the experiment I think we can run
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:32pm On Oct 11, 2020
hyuga:


Before you say many of the previous theories and experiment are flawed, has there been a counter experiment or it's just simply qualitative reasoning? I'm no physicist but we can use our reasoning based on the theories and things we've come to learn about our universe so far.
the theories are flawed because non of it can be attested to in the natural world by by the human common sense or any device or technology. The michelson morley, sagnac, gale and aires failure are experiments that went down in history which set out to prove gravity and the rotation of the earth but failed and instead proved that the earth does not move and the lie of gravity.

hyuga:
The gravity on every planet varies so you can't expect to have same effect here to others. I believe we can say everything in the universe works to meet a balance and with that we can also say the earth's gravity is what's keeping the moon where it is. The moon as you might have read somewhere is slightly floating away, if the moon was a bit heavier than what we have now it's very possible for it to get more attracted to our core and closing the distance between us.
this statement is mere speculation with no concrete fact to it. The gravity on earth is not proven yet and your talking about gravity in other planets. Who have been to other planets to measure and detect their gravity? They are still talking about how they are designing new system to enable them leave beyond low earth orbit and and your talking about other planets.

What you call planets are stars and lights in the sky. If you take a telescope or zoom camera you will see that these things are lights which even changes colour and do not seem like a solid object at all.

When i was in school i was taught that pluto is the last and smallest planet but today pluto is no longer a planet . you know why? Because the light suddenly diminished and pluto was declassified as a planet.

These goes to show you that these guys don't even know what they tell you. Every picture of all the planets you see are photoshopped.

The moon is not even a solid object as one can see the stars through them. Yet they tell you its a solid ball of rock floating and dragging gravity with the earth wtf.

You have no concrete evidence of any thing you say, all are just mere speculation and attempt not to look like you want to give up.

Why is the earths gravity not pulling the moon down? And your telling me "the moon is floating away and if its a bit heavier it will get more attraction" What nonsense. Pls stop replying for the sake of it.

hyuga:
Jupiter not crashing could simply be because it's a gas planet and as we know, bigger doesn't necessarily mean heavier so that might have been it's saving grace so being lighter with it's own lesser mass might have made it maintain it's orbit. All these are just reasonings based on what we know and you sef if you haven't gotten there yourself don't tell me it's a fact.
wether gas or no gas gravity is said to
attract massive objects and Jupiter is the most massive and so it should crash into the sun
Not only jupiter but the entire planets should be crashed out into the sun by now. The fact that this does not happen nullifies the theory of gravity. You dont know this for sure you only believe what they tell you heck even them have not been their as they admit not leaving low earth orbit. So all this is just mere speculation and does not stand as fact. It is false.

hyuga:
We can keep going round about this but so far, this THEORIES and FLAWED words has been what's taken us this far in the scientific world. I do enjoy your arguments but as you reason those way also consider the universe balancing itself and every planet having it's own nature thereby maintaining their orbit. There's a software (something playground or so) that you can install on your PC where values of objects can be changed to see what effect it can produce. This software is however based on our gravitational calculations and findings that we already grew up to know. If you can get your hands on it, change the mass of jupiter or any planet and watch the simulation. That's as far as the experiment I think we can run
you say the theories and flawed words have taken you far. OK I want you to mention how they have taken you far? What advancement in technology or in any area of life have they taken us pls mention..

It is theorized that the earth is a spinning ball yet when pilots fly they do not factor the earths curvature heck they even have a device in the plane that helps them fly level.

When building bridges the engineers do not factor in any curvature other wise the bridge columns would not be parallel from end to end for hundred s of miles.

The truth here is that every thing we have been told is a lie. There is no space and planets spinning around the sun. The sun and moon are the same size and local within the earth just as we can see them. The purpose of all this is to remove God as the creator of mankind and make us an insignificant object with no clear cut direction or reason for existence. This is because satan is the god of this world and the father of lies who controls every area of life from education to politics to finance and every area of life we leave in the system of satan. If you dont know this Then you will keep making meaningless arguments and defending a lie that your sense cannot attest to.
Re: The Earth Is FLAT. Discuss! by lovediehatelive(m): 2:42pm On Mar 27, 2022
which to believe now.

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