femi4:
Yes, the desire is normal...but giving in to such desire is a SIN.

Marrying a gay is against the definition of marriage according to the Bible

The Bible is a book written by Roman Catholics and Romans 1 describes Roman culture to an exact.

Here is Romans 1, how Christianity destroys the spirit because it is the culture of Rome.

Romans 1King James Version (KJV)

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

10 Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you.

11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;

12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.

13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.

14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.

15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


The Romans wrote of themselves and their perverted and wicked ways and then deflected this darkness upon other people. Nothing was wrong with Pagan worship because they are traditional religions of many lands upon this Earth. It is Roman worship that is the darkness of humanity. Romans were not pagans they were demon worshippers, Roman beliefs came from Babylon, Babylonians were perverts, sadists, human sacrificers, bloody conquerors and enslavers. Rome adopted Babylonian beliefs of Sun worship and thus changed the ancient cosmology from the Earth being a firm place to going around the Sun. The worship of Jesus Christ is the worship of Roman Czars, who lived as men boy lovers, all Roman Czars had male lovers for their wives. This is the same as America, the new Rome, where all the U.S President have transgender men as their wives. This is not well known and kept a secret but Obama wasn't the first president to have a man as a wife, Michael Obama is Michelle Obama. This is how come Barack Hussein Obama isn't a Muslim like his name and background would suggest but a Christian. Because Christianity is a sodomite religion as Rome Catholicism is the mother of all Christians. Where are Gays? In the Christian Church. Yes even in Africa the small amounts of Gays find their home in the Catholic and Christian Churches which pollute the land. Christians run Nigeria along with Muslims who back up the lie of Jesus Christ. Nigeria the Giant of Africa is the most corrupt African Black nations because of dirty Christians and Muslims. When Nigeria declared independence how come they didn't send the Christians and Muslims packing as they don't belong in the ancestral land? The land belongs to the ancestors of Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Benin, Dahomey, Akan, etc. But now you have to duck and hide if you follow African tradition. So tell me, is Nigeria free? If the ancestors are still insulted and forgotten then how is Nigeria free? Sango was good to the people of West Africa but Catholic Africans have destroyed the reputation of the great Alaafin Sango. This has to change. Ase.


Watch, learn and reap!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehGOeq7yHek

Even the Whites are telling you Black Christians the truth but you're so demonically possessed by Jesus you block it out. You Black Christians and Muslims are the ones who have been stabbing the Liberation of African people in the back all along. Ase.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tot2ASDwyiM

Afam4eva:
I think will like to align with Pastor Chris here.

i think Masturbation is a bad habit...

But i don't thin it's a sin.

I was arguing this thing with a pastor and he said that every act of masturbat.ion involves the subject imagining lustfully after someone.

And i asked him: What if i'm lusting after my wife when masturbating?

Pastor Chris was right. Jesus was also right.

In jesus's time there were no sperm banks nor fertility tests done who h required masturbation for the man.

For masturbation not to be a sin it must be done for the right reason (something like fertility test) and while it's going on, only your wife must be the one you're thinking about while doing it.

That way lust for another woman has been avoided

jumpandpas:


Don't jump into discussion you don't know how it started.

lol now you wanna swerve, gezout clueless kid

redon12:


what of if your mind drift away to your maid...
what do you call that?..

then what of if you just masturbate without thinking about anybody ?.

My guy you have a point in that your mind can drift away . What you do is you try as much to think about your wife all the actions you had together. Touching her the way u used to in your mind. It works. But If u can't do that quit it.

You don't have a point in saying one can mastubate without thinking about someone.
It's not possible. your will have an image of the opposite sex in mind. It may not be someone u know.

skyo78:


You need to be slapped for asking people to choose between the teachings of Jesus Christ and any other human being alive or dead.

Go back to primary 3 where comprehension was taught.

That's if you can't pick anything from what you quoted.

JoeBlocks:
I say we go with the two. Since Chris and Christ rhyme, let's look for a way to rhyme their teaching together. So, to me, if you see masturbation as a sin, then it is, if you don't see it as a sin, then it isn't.

Fin.

Chris on his masturbation teaching is Antichrist.

Both can never cojoin

Chigold101:

mumu question.... did Chris die for you? Chris is not the author and finisher of our faith... Jesus Christ is...
rubbishhh

Why do you rant Christian? Does what you quote antagonizes with the one who is the author and finisher of our faith?

Do you have comprehension issues? Your type is easily targeted by Atheists because they feel you don't think but they don't know that not all Christians rant like you.

eplanning:



If you are confused, get help and quit trying to confuse others.

Pastor Chris said masturbation "in itself" is not a sin.
Have you bothered to find out what he meant by "in itself?"

Lustful thoughts however are sin. So go figure.

With what Chris says maturbation is, he is Antichrist.

I already answered. Lust in any form is a sin. Whoever you are lusting after is irrelevant. Its just like asking if it is a sin to steal from your spouse.

Ranchhoddas:
Madam answer me straight abeg. Is it a sin to lust after your spouse?

Do Not Rob God 8 "Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say , 'In what way have we robbed You?' In tithes and offerings.

9 You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me , Even this whole nation.


Malachi 3:10New International Version (NIV)

10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “ and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

That was God almighty speaking. Do you now see that tithe is biblical?

sunnyt1:


if christ is the only standard for christians why then is tithe so widely preached and accepted when Jesus didnt teach it and his only reference to tithe was to chastise the pharises wit it calling it a religious practice?

if tithe is that important why didnt Jesus and the apostles after him teach it?

jumpandpas:


I thought you will be happy. Can you now see that it's wrong since you can't advice anyone to do it.


There's a way that seems right unto you but the end thereof is destruction Proverbs 16:25.

wow so because I can't advice anyone to do it means it's wrong to you, and who are you to judge that which is destruction onto man?

Abeg e don do, you people will just think ones you can quote Bible on anything that is the end without even approaching it logically.

harmbhrosz:
wow so because I can't advice anyone to do it means it's wrong to you, and who are you to judge that which is destruction onto man?

Abeg e don do, you people will just think ones you can quote Bible on anything that is the end without even approaching it logically.

A carnal mind cannot understand the things of the Spirit.

femi4:
Then, we can't continue this conversation since you can't back your claims with scriptures.

"He is the Lord of the body"

1Cor 6:12-13

“I have the right to do anything,” you say — but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything” — but I will not be mastered by anything. You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

what is wrong with you people,

That scripture came from a man (Paul) just like you and i and it was addressing the church of Corinth which was because he found out fornicating, adultery, divorce and other unlawful crimes that were on the rise and he was able to heard about them because they were public for everyone to see and it was hurting others.

1st Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God

We both know what fornication, adultery and homosexual means, in the above stated sexual immoralities, where was masturbation stated??

You people will just think you can pick one verses from the Bible and use it to suit your point because you think others are dummies or what... No wonder, Religion has really altered our sense of reasoning, once it's coming from the Bible or the other Religious books then there's no need for us to think again...

Whatever anyone does in his closet that doesn't hurt or concern others is between him and his God, you don't have the right to judge him/her that it is wrong.

Pls before you quote me next, just kindly refer me to that Bible verse that clearly states where self-service is a sin, at least fornicating, gossiping, adultery, stealing well clearly spelled out in the Bible.

Gosh!!!

jumpandpas:


A carnal mind cannot understand the things of the Spirit.

ofcoz, well you the righteous one has failed to clearify your point with the scriptures that states masturbation/self-service is a sin, at least we can all point out where adultery, fornication and homosexuallity were boldly mentioned.

harmbhrosz:
ofcoz, well you the righteous one has failed to clearify your point with the scriptures that states masturbation/self-service is a sin, at least we can all point out where adultery, fornication and homosexuallity were boldly mentioned.

Since the Bible didn't approve it

First John 5:17 said 'all unrighteousness is sin'. The Bible may be silent in some certain things though they're morally wrong. Every act of immorality which the Bible is silent about are among the 'all unrighteousness' . Since you said the Bible didn't condemn masturbation, can you show me where the Bible approves it?. As the Bible didn't approve it, what do you have to say.

jumpandpas:
Since the Bible didn't approve it

First John 5:17 said 'all unrighteousness is sin'. The Bible may be silent in some certain things though they're morally wrong. Every act of immorality which the Bible is silent about are among the 'all unrighteousness' . Since you said the Bible didn't condemn masturbation, can you show me where the Bible approves it?. As the Bible didn't approve it, what do you have to say.

well... It seems you're now getting close to my point,

We both know the Bible does not approve nor disapprove it, that's why I've been saying I will never advice anyone to do it nor tell anyone not to do it, because it is not mine to judge that which was not condemned by God

And like I've said before, anything anyone does in his/her closet and doesn't hurt anyone is between him/her and his/her God.

beezyblaze:

Dude... Ever Heard Of Demonic Possession

Yeah.Also demonic oppression and obsession.

deathcomestoall:
I wish I could. I have a disorder that doesn't allow me do anything sexual.

Tales by moonlight. I can say u do masturbate

Depends on which hand or leg you are using. If you use your left hand and hop on your right leg and self-service away, you should be fine. Otherwise, you are on a one way trip to hell fire aka Buhari's Nigeria which you already live in anyway

Ruling on masturbation and how to cure the problem
I have a question which I am shy to ask but another sister who has come to Islam recently wants an answer to and I do not have an answer (with dilals from the Qur'an and Sunnah). I hope you can help and I hope Allah will for give me if it is inappropriate but as Muslims we should never be shy in seeking knowledge. Her question was "Is it permissible in Islam to masturbate?".
May Allah increase us all in knowledge.
Published Date: 1997-04-11
Praise be to Allaah.
Masturbation (for both men and women) is haraam (forbidden) in Islam based on the following evidence:
First from the Qur’aan:
Imam Shafi’i stated that masturbation is forbidden based on the following verses from the Qur’aan (interpretation of the meaning):
"And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts). Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." 23.5-7 Here the verses are clear in forbidding all illegal sexual acts (including masturbation) except for the wives or that their right hand possess. And whoever seeks beyond that is the transgressor.
"And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His bounty." 24.33. This verse also clearly orders whoever does not have the financial means to marry to keep himself chaste and be patient in facing temptations (including masturbation) until Allah enriches them of His bounty.
Secondly, from the sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him):
Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood said, "We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. So Allaah’s Messenger said, "O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power." Bukhari:5066. The hadeeth orders men who are not able to marry to fast despite the hardship encountered in doing so, and not to masturbate despite the ease with which it can be done.
There are additional evidences that can be cited to support this ruling on masturbation, but due to the limited space we will not go through them here. Allaah knows what is best and most correct.
As for curing the habit of masturbation, we recommend the following suggestions:
1) The motive to seek a cure for this problem should be solely following Allaah’s orders and fearing His punishment.
2) A permanent and quick cure from this problem lies in marriage as soon as the person is able, as shown in the Prophet’s hadeeth.
3) Keeping oneself busy with what is good for this world and the hereafter is essential in breaking this habit before it becomes second nature after which it is very difficult to rid oneself of it.
4) Lowering the gaze (from looking at forbidden things such as pictures, movies etc.) will help suppress the desire before it leads one to commit the haraam (forbidden). Allaah orders men and women to lower their gaze as shown in the following two verses and in the Prophet’s hadeeth (interpretations of the meanings):
"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is all-aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) ..... " 24.30-31
Allaah’s messenger said: "Do not follow a casual (unintentional) look (at forbidden things) with another look." Al-Tirmidhi 2777. This is a general instruction by the Prophet to abstain from all that may sexually excite a person because it might lead him/her to commit the haraam (forbidden).
5) Using one’s available leisure time

jnrbayano:


Why do you rant Christian? Does what you quote antagonizes with the one who is the author and finisher of our faith?

Do you have comprehension issues? Your type is easily targeted by Atheists because they feel you don't think but they don't know that not all Christians rant like you.

look at the question I responded to...

jnrbayano:
Chris Oyakhilome says Masturbation is not a sin.

Jesus says immorality is sin.

Masturbation is immoral.

Who would you go with.

Chris or Christ?

Why should some ask such a mumuish question? because your brain is dull to the Holy scriptures, this is the portion of the Bible I quoted ...Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
Is Chris the founder of christian faith or is he the author of the Bible? Chris can say what he wishes but what Christ siad is the final..
inshot:::::
Your mumu just got nup graded... you lack serious sense seriously...
Merry Christmas

Omudia11:

Do Not Rob God 8 "Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say , 'In what way have we robbed You?' In tithes and offerings.

9 You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me , Even this whole nation.


Malachi 3:10New International Version (NIV)

10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “ and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

That was God almighty speaking. Do you now see that tithe is biblical?

did Jesus or the apostles teach tithe? that passage u quoted was talking to levites, are u one? no

Jesus is our standard like u said, Lets stick to wat he told us to do

deathcomestoall:
I dont have a bible

I love your response, the women are always the strongest. I dont have one either, unless I acess it online, the Bible adds no spiritual value to my ancestral rituals. Ase.

deathcomestoall:
Who is he married to, his hand or d.ick??you masturbate for 4 years because noone wanted you.

See how you casted yourself. How do u know it causes premature ejaculation when having sex because you've upgraded to having sex. You've masturbateed and enjoyed it. Noone told you to stop, you did at your own will. Leave him be.

I thinks you're out of your senses ,I'm not discouraging him I'm only saying the facts ,moreover stop insulting peoples, who told you that none wanted me ,I feels ashamed by this statements, just stop posting nonsense and trash.

Go back and read that passage again. That passage is for everyone, not Levite's alone. That's like saying that Jesus only promised heaven to his disciples because he specifically said to them "I go to prepare a place for you." I repeat, that passage applies to everyone.

Didn't Jesus say, give unto ceasar what is ceasar's?

sunnyt1:


did Jesus or the apostles teach tithe? that passage u quoted was talking to levites, are u one? no

Jesus is our standard like u said, Lets stick to wat he told us to do

Chigold101:


look at the question I responded to...

Why should some ask such a mumuish question? because your brain is dull to the Holy scriptures, this is the portion of the Bible I quoted ...Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
Is Chris the founder of christian faith or is he the author of the Bible? Chris can say what he wishes but what Christ siad is the final..
inshot:::::
Your mumu just got nup graded... you lack serious sense seriously...
Merry Christmas

You didn't disappoint my claim that you have comprehension issues. When you reread the post you quoted again slowly you will realize that I wrote like Solomon who likes to present the good and the bad for you to choose.

If you couldn't realise that my position is that Chris is Antichrist with his masturbation teaching, heaven should help your brain.

That's where you are wrong. You are the one who wanked off all the vitamins from your head for 4 years and just only started to regain your senses that's why you're typing trash.

BABATEE251:
I thinks you're out of your senses ,I'm not discouraging him I'm only saying the facts ,moreover stop insulting peoples, who told you that none wanted me ,I feels ashamed by this statements, just stop posting nonsense and trash.

deathcomestoall:
That's where you are wrong. You are the one who wanked off all the vitamins from your head for 4 years and just only started to regain your senses that's why you're typing trash.

I thinks you're out of your senses for insulting peoples........ slowpoke girl,Bleep you

.

Rhea:
Depends on which hand or leg you are using. If you use your left hand and hop on your right leg and self-service away, you should be fine. Otherwise, you are on a one way trip to hell fire aka Buhari's Nigeria which you already live in anyway

Ahahahaha. Best response yet.
What if you use both hands, and you have no legs? Will there be an exemption from Buhari's Hell?

Nigeria is a funny place. A rule of thumb to finding the right path is to act against the belief of the majority.

When the majority say masturbation is a sin, know for sure that it is not a sin.
When the majority say tithing is a divine responsibiility, know for sure that they have no clue what they say.

After all, statistics have shown the majority of Nigerians to be either uneducated or ill-educated. Why then should I allow the selfsame majority to dictate my opinions.

bizme:


Ahahahaha. Best response yet.
What if you use both hands, and you have no legs? Will there be an exemption from Buhari's Hell?

Without legs? You get prime time front seat in Buhari's hell. But you can get a get out of hell card if you crouch on your butt, and self-service with both hands while you hum osondi owendi