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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jan 05, 2017
Marvel1206:

So that is hope cheesy

May is around the corner bro cheesy
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by haffaze777(m): 12:41pm On Jan 05, 2017
Rilwayne001:
Haffaze777 will not eat tonight grin grin grin
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Eru009(m): 12:49pm On Jan 05, 2017
UrennaNkoli:

For all I care fabregas was the perfect choice for that game. There are certain matches you have to do the opposite of your opponent if you want to daze them and have any chance of winning that's why arsenal was never able to beat Barca in as many games during the days of tiki taka. Why ? Because arsenal kept playing their style and ask yourself why a team like Chelsea was able to handle Barcelona and tame them? Because we played the opposite of what they played. Fabregas might not have the speed or those things you are saying but he has those pinpoint passes and technique to locate any player from any part of the pitch and create the goals. Its coaches like you that will use two Mikel obi's because you want to face a Gatusso. There's always a way you can catch these people unawares.

Besides, conte has a bad reputation of tiring players, favoritism, using them till death until they start to wear off and get jaded. He did this in juventus where he used the same set of first eleven for twenty something games. He did such with the Italian national team also. I repeat and I'll say it again, I hate it when our first eleven is predictable even before the game starts. Just take a look at zouma, conte will never use that boy until he decides to move on with his career and better and funny enough, he's a better and solid option to Gary Cahill but favoritism will never let him play.

sister, i do not think any coach will pick a team/player based on favoritism, they want to win and they pick players according to their idea of football, they pick players who will get the job done(win them games.)
you mention that conte has a reputation of tiring players and not changing his line up in his juve days, it amazes me that you remember how tired they were but not all the successes they achieved. let me remind you. that team won 33 of 38 games in a season, went a season unbeaten, hardly conceded goals and scored for fun.
i am sure you have heard the saying that you do not change a winning team. well that's how football works, still know lester city starting 11 of last season, the chelsea team under mourinho i remember. Once the coaches find a balance and an 11 that gets the job done, they hardly change.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Eru009(m): 12:58pm On Jan 05, 2017
Olaolufred:


I think what i told my wife was based on my believe that
any team who is able to keep moses and alonso at bay will be close to wining or holding chelsea.

I knew this in november 2016, when the full backs became the new heroes of contes 3:4:3.

I am a liverpool fan.

Proud of that.

as to disagreeing with my belief, youve got all right to disagree. however, we both cannot deny the result.

have a great day.

thanks. have good day too.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by schumastic(m): 2:26pm On Jan 05, 2017
Olaolufred:


COMPLAINANTS.

This same Alonso and moses had been doing great job as full backs.

They've been good helping the 3-man defence.
Making defence line at every point 6- men (+ DM).

Instead of all these complaints or uninformed analysis, accept the fact that the Totts were better team.

Pegging both moses and alonso back to their defensive duties for most part of the match was the deal.

All the attacks of alonso and moses in those previous matches became impossible due to pochettino's tactical accuracy.

Alonso remains a good player.

However, conte must be sure now that good epl coaches will counter his formation as tott did.

Hence he must be thinking of plan B or C when opponent's formation has rendered his 3:4:3 or 3:4:2:1 useless.


WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, HOW DID HE RENDER THE FORMATION USELESS.

BOTH GOALS CAME FROM SET PIECE. HE WAS ABLE TO HEAD ABOVE MOSES AND AZPILLICUATE WHO ARE BOTH 5FT 10 AND DELE IS 6FT 2.
PLEASE COME BACK WITH GOOD ANALYSIS, EITHER WAY WE NEED A GOOD LEFT WING BACK AND ANOTHER CENTER BACK TO STRENGTHEN THE TEAM CUS ALONSO AND CAHILL ARE NOT THAT GOOD ENOUGH AND IT CLEARLY SHOWED AGAINST TOTTENHAM.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by BestySam(m): 4:14pm On Jan 05, 2017
Ximenez:
What are you saying now? Abeg always check statistics before you talk, His dribbles, goals and assists this season alone, sometimes he plays badly in some games like he did today. The fact is that Hazard is the best dribbler in the premier league and he has 9 goals already this season.and you can't say Chelsea will die without Costa and Moses. Chelsea is not a team of two players.

The last time I checked, there's no award or category for best dribbler. As a midfielder you either score, create chances or assist.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Ximenez(m): 4:21pm On Jan 05, 2017
BestySam:


The last time I checked, there's no award or category for best dribbler. As a midfielder you either score, create chances or assist.
and which of those things you mentioned Hazard can't do, he won the best player in the league on 2015, and he's one of the favorites to win that of this year, talking of goals and assists this season not many midfielders are ahead of Hazard go and check it.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by VickyRotex(f): 4:45pm On Jan 05, 2017
enemyofprogress:
Thank God o,I am so happy that chelshit were beated yesterday,now all of us can rest in peace. vickyrotex and funjosh how market? tongue tongue tongue

Lodun tun tun tori Olorun! Iyangbali! angry angry
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by VickyRotex(f): 4:46pm On Jan 05, 2017
Ximenez:
Beated ke? Seems you are not only against English football, you are also against English language. Enemy of progress indeed.

lmaoooo! Don't take that Moniker serious.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by yedidiah(m): 5:00pm On Jan 05, 2017
Girlbestfriend:


And you fink u will make heaven with this comment, issorite
I don't need this statement to make Heaven. All I need is Jesus. I hope you believe in Him too?
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Ximenez(m): 5:46pm On Jan 05, 2017
VickyRotex:


lmaoooo! Don't take that Moniker serious.
Don't mind me, just coming across it for the first time.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by donjazet(m): 5:47pm On Jan 05, 2017
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by VickyRotex(f): 5:53pm On Jan 05, 2017
Ximenez:
Don't mind me, just coming across it for the first time.

No worries. It's an Alternate Moniker.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by enemyofprogress: 8:53pm On Jan 05, 2017
VickyRotex:


Lodun tun tun tori Olorun! Iyangbali! angry angry
common speak English jo
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by enemyofprogress: 8:56pm On Jan 05, 2017
VickyRotex:


lmaoooo! Don't take that Moniker serious.
why?nah wetin be your own?enemy of progress tongue
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Olaolufred(m): 9:49pm On Jan 05, 2017
schumastic:


WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, HOW DID HE RENDER THE FORMATION USELESS.

BOTH GOALS CAME FROM SET PIECE. HE WAS ABLE TO HEAD ABOVE MOSES AND AZPILLICUATE WHO ARE BOTH 5FT 10 AND DELE IS 6FT 2.
PLEASE COME BACK WITH GOOD ANALYSIS, EITHER WAY WE NEED A GOOD LEFT WING BACK AND ANOTHER CENTER BACK TO STRENGTHEN THE TEAM CUS ALONSO AND CAHILL ARE NOT THAT GOOD ENOUGH AND IT CLEARLY SHOWED AGAINST TOTTENHAM.

You can claim whatsoever you felt like.
But it was so evident that the Totts were in control of that match for 94 minutes.

Why was it hard for chelsi to do their usual thing of pressuring its opponent into conceading goal?

it is simply because the additional attacking pressure usually provided by moses and alonso was absent yesterday.

not because these duo are not good. but the Totts were better physically, mentally and tactically.

I wish you well as you argue your case.

Chelsi must change its gear because moses and alonso will now be a target of teams to frustrate its attacking potency.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by onyxo76(m): 10:09pm On Jan 05, 2017
na wah so because chelsea lose one game in 14 heaven wan fall? my you people dey really give us attention ooo--anyway we really appreciate it
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by thinkative: 10:13pm On Jan 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


They are geniuses. Ranieri, Conte, Pochettino etc. What Pochettino is doing is not easy. Mourinho could not make the best out of De Bruyne, Salah, Cuadrado and others. That does not make him less a genius. Sissoko and Jansen are not in the league of big and expensive players. When we talk of the likes of Pogba and David Luiz.
I insist that pochetino has done nothing to warrant the genius tag. he might not have the most expensive squad in the world, but its not always about money. mourinho's champions league winning Porto side did not cost half of what this spurs side cost. simeone's athletico side are now a force in Europe, and the squad does not cost as much as spurs' own. I wouldn't argue if u called pochettino a genius if he made the same impact as those two. but for doing well in the league. hell no! harry redknapp did as well in the league and far better in the cups. yet, he is no genius
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by thinkative: 10:18pm On Jan 05, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Buying Dier 4 million. That is managing.
think about it. pochetinno's squad was the costliest in his champion's league group. yet he couldn't qualify. that's not exactly genius. or is it?
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:34pm On Jan 05, 2017
thinkative:

I insist that pochetino has done nothing to warrant the genius tag. he might not have the most expensive squad in the world, but its not always about money. mourinho's champions league winning Porto side did not cost half of what this spurs side cost. simeone's athletico side are now a force in Europe, and the squad does not cost as much as spurs' own. I wouldn't argue if u called pochettino a genius if he made the same impact as those two. but for doing well in the league. hell no! harry redknapp did as well in the league and far better in the cups. yet, he is no genius

Genius tag goes beyond just result in Europe. What about his understanding of the game. His set up. It is not a fluke he has used relatively weaker sides to end two great runs this season.

His work with Tottenham in the league is not good, it is genius. Alex Ferguson got knocked out in group stage in the Champions league with a more expensive squad than others in his group. Does that make Ferguson good and not a genius?

Pochettino has transformed Tottenham to genuine title contenders. That is not just good but genius.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by schumastic(m): 10:51pm On Jan 05, 2017
Olaolufred:


You can claim whatsoever you felt like.
But it was so evident that the Totts were in control of that match for 94 minutes.

Why was it hard for chelsi to do their usual thing of pressuring its opponent into conceading goal?

it is simply because the additional attacking pressure usually provided by moses and alonso was absent yesterday.

not because these duo are not good. but the Totts were better physically, mentally and tactically.

I wish you well as you argue your case.

Chelsi must change its gear because moses and alonso will now be a target of teams to frustrate its attacking potency.

tell the other teams to come, we are going to wait for them n I will quote u when that time come as well..I just wish i know the club you are supporting and God bless you is not a premiereship team.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Nobody: 9:26am On Jan 06, 2017
keypad1:
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Olaolufred(m): 10:08am On Jan 06, 2017
schumastic:


tell the other teams to come, we are going to wait for them n I will quote u when that time come as well..I just wish i know the club you are supporting and God bless you is not a premiereship team.

Liverpool is on the way for you on the 31st Jan. 2017.
We'll never walk alone.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by thinkative: 10:52am On Jan 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Genius tag goes beyond just result in Europe. What about his understanding of the game. His set up. It is not a fluke he has used relatively weaker sides to end two great runs this season.

His work with Tottenham in the league is not good, it is genius. Alex Ferguson got knocked out in group stage in the Champions league with a more expensive squad than others in his group. Does that make Ferguson good and not a genius?

Pochettino has transformed Tottenham to genuine title contenders. That is not just good but genius.

Harry redknapp made the top four twice,won the league cup and made it to the quarter finals of the champions league. with a far cheaper spurs team than this. only bale and modric were the truly top class players he had. Pochettino has a far better squad than redknapp had. more balanced. more expensive. more depth. Yet, he hasn't achieved what redknapp achieved. and u call him a genius. for what?
he is doing well in the league. no doubt. even though, I choose to ignore the meltdown that took him from tittle challenger to 3rd place towards the end of last season. however, I regard the champions league as the pinnacle of football in Europe. and he couldn't take spurs out of his group despite having the best and most expensive squad in the group. that's not exactly genius. is it?
you mention Ferguson being knocked out at the group stages. yes. but he won it twice. made the latter stages countless times. my problem with pochettino is that he got knocked out at the first attempt. more importantly, he STUPIDLY rested players away against Monaco in a must win match. of course he want on to lose the next league game against Chelsea. now, that's a total lack of ambition in Europe. sheer stupidity
you have the right to consider him a genius. but to me, he is just a good manager.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:59am On Jan 06, 2017
thinkative:


Harry redknapp made the top four twice,won the league cup and made it to the quarter finals of the champions league. with a far cheaper spurs team than this. only bale and modric were the truly top class players he had. Pochettino has a far better squad than redknapp had. more balanced. more expensive. more depth. Yet, he hasn't achieved what redknapp achieved. and u call him a genius. for what?
he is doing well in the league. no doubt. even though, I choose to ignore the meltdown that took him from tittle challenger to 3rd place towards the end of last season. however, I regard the champions league as the pinnacle of football in Europe. and he couldn't take spurs out of his group despite having the best and most expensive squad in the group. that's not exactly genius. is it?
you mention Ferguson being knocked out at the group stages. yes. but he won it twice. made the latter stages countless times. my problem with pochettino is that he got knocked out at the first attempt. more importantly, he STUPIDLY rested players away against Monaco in a must win match. of course he want on to lose the next league game against Chelsea. now, that's a total lack of ambition in Europe. sheer stupidity
you have the right to consider him a genius. but to me, he is just a good manager.

Na wa. Are you going to compare Harry Redknapp's history before Spurs to Pochettino? A guy who coached Rio Ferdinand and Lampard when they were young. Hey. How many years has Pochettino stayed in Spurs to make top four four times.

Tottenham fought bravely for the top position with a weaker squad than the top EPL teams. Genius.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by keypad1: 11:18am On Jan 06, 2017
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Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by schumastic(m): 11:49am On Jan 06, 2017
Olaolufred:


Liverpool is on the way for you on the 31st Jan. 2017.
We'll never walk alone.

hahaha can you imagine, don't worry lets see how things play out cus i will use you people as example for arsenal on feb 4th cus am very patient.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by colossus2: 12:10pm On Jan 06, 2017
thinkative:


Harry redknapp made the top four twice,won the league cup and made it to the quarter finals of the champions league. with a far cheaper spurs team than this. only bale and modric were the truly top class players he had. Pochettino has a far better squad than redknapp had. more balanced. more expensive. more depth. Yet, he hasn't achieved what redknapp achieved. and u call him a genius. for what?
he is doing well in the league. no doubt. even though, I choose to ignore the meltdown that took him from tittle challenger to 3rd place towards the end of last season. however, I regard the champions league as the pinnacle of football in Europe. and he couldn't take spurs out of his group despite having the best and most expensive squad in the group. that's not exactly genius. is it?
you mention Ferguson being knocked out at the group stages. yes. but he won it twice. made the latter stages countless times. my problem with pochettino is that he got knocked out at the first attempt. more importantly, he STUPIDLY rested players away against Monaco in a must win match. of course he want on to lose the next league game against Chelsea. now, that's a total lack of ambition in Europe. sheer stupidity
you have the right to consider him a genius. but to me, he is just a good manager.
What did Redknapp achieve with Spurs?
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by Olaolufred(m): 3:32pm On Jan 06, 2017
schumastic:


hahaha can you imagine, don't worry lets see how things play out cus i will use you people as example for arsenal on feb 4th cus am very patient.

I will qoute you at about 21:00 hrs on the 31st Jan. 2017.

Have a great day.
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by thinkative: 5:33pm On Jan 06, 2017
colossus2:

What did Redknapp achieve with Spurs?
goid question
1st season - took them from bottom of the table to 8th place. lost the league cup final to man utd.
2nd season - finished 4th. the first time spurs had made the top four in ages. he was named premier league manager of the year for that achievement.
3rd season - finished 5th. made the quarter finals of the champions league
4th season - finished fourth again.

Now, that's not much of an achievement. But pochettino has not done anything more than this and he is being labelled a genius. Abegi!
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by thinkative: 5:41pm On Jan 06, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Na wa. Are you going to compare Harry Redknapp's history before Spurs to Pochettino? A guy who coached Rio Ferdinand and Lampard when they were young. Hey. How many years has Pochettino stayed in Spurs to make top four four times.

Tottenham fought bravely for the top position with a weaker squad than the top EPL teams. Genius.

I don't think you get my point. people have done better than pochettino without being called a genius.
take redknapp for example, he took over from juande Ramos with spurs bottom of the league. next season, he made the top four and was named premier league manager of the year! Now, that's an achievement pochettino can't boast of.
anyway, you have the right to define a genius in anyway u deem fit. so I will drop this argument. cheers!
Re: Tottenham Hotspur Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 4th January 2017 by djlaqua91(m): 10:12pm On Jan 09, 2017
shapman:


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