Elliot2:
haha! u mean "Beg"? i give up!

don't mind him
it is in nature of afonjas to beg.oladipo diya did it before his junior officer,today he is as good as dead.keep begging owambe

human rights have never been achieved through begging and kow-towing but through consistent bravery struggles and campaigns which often involve ultimate sacrifices. when it comes to applying the tools of successful political liberations we read in history the cowards always do what they know best is cowardice.


what can do!

proeast:
Your reasoning is too primitive and childish to say the least. Ipob has created awareness in almost all parts of the world & within Nigeria to the extent that Bia.fra discussions now dominates the cyberspace & political talks. For the first time since the end of the civil war, majority of Nigerians & the international community now see the break-up of the zoo as a possibility. The funny thing is that the country is already breaking gradually but short sighted people like you cant see it until the very last moment! CIA with all the classified information at their disposal predicted it but people now wrongly assumed that since we passed the exact date, then its not going to happen again. Check the dynamics in all the countries that broke up & compare with Nigeria.

Lol, from 2015 to 2017, u will keep wishing that Nigeria breaks up, but it will still be standing looking at u to ur frustration

Fremancipation:
Those hoping on restructuring never learn from history. Why did Gowan reneged on the aburi accord even though it did exactly what Niger deltans is begging for today? Why?

To northerners, restructuring is almost like breaking away because at the end of the day, restructuring will deny them the unlimited access to your oil which they enjoy today.

That was a bit missed by you.
In actual fact Nigeria started exactly with the kind of structure which the Niger Delta currently begs for. If that structure was left to stay, no one would have been asking for restructuring today as it was a structure which summarily lguaranteed 75% resource control. But unfortunately, just six years into the life of that structure, an Igbo man, Aguyi Ironsi, used military might to pioneer the dismantling of it by a unilateral alteration of the constitution at a time the public did not complain about the constitution let alone ask for a review of it. Ironsi ignored every wise counsel to retrace his steps but he was too adamant to see the terrible future danger which others could see in an overcentralized system of governance for a country like Nigeria. By that ill-conceived and myopic step, Ironsi set in motion a mechanism which would later lead Nigeria to a failed state status by totally corrupting the constitution from its strictly federal form to this unjust and criminal unitary form which the Niger Delta now seeks restructuring.
The Aburi Accord was NOT a proposal for a return to the federalism Ironsi dismantled but rather a proposal for the adoption of confederacy which was altogether new to Nigeria, hence its being rejected by the Niger Delta and indeed the rest Nigeria. If Aburi Accord proposals were exactly a demand for a return to the federal structure we enjoyed in the status quo ante before Ironsi came, no one would have rejected it.

victorvezx:

Lol, from 2015 to 2017, u will keep wishing that Nigeria breaks up, but it will still be standing looking at u to ur frustration

well, i don't have much to tell u...

victorvezx:
I want the igbos to explain to me how restructuring can't be possible because of the oil the northerners want and how Biafra will be possible when that same oil will be also be a matter. Or they want the south south people to join them in their hate campaign so that together they can Gang up against the northerners to defeat them. Lol. Keep dreaming, U can't even gang up together to fight for restructuring and u think u can win when u gang up and fight for sessesion? Lol. For u to even fear the perceived northern influence this much means u have already conceded defeat.

like we yoruba muslim conceeded kwara to the caliphate.

Fremancipation:


Don't mind them they have been waiting for stupid restructure for more than 50 years. Ok let's continue. At least biafrans are talking the talk and walking the walk. Not waiting for useless restructure that will never happen.

Actually Nigeria started with the kind of beautiful structure the Niger Deltans now hope and pray we return to. But sadly, it was the Biafrans that dismantled that good structure and replaced it with this current one we all now complain against.

Deadlytruth:


Actually Nigeria started with the kind of beautiful structure the Niger Deltans now hope and pray we return to. But sadly, it was the Biafrans that dismantled that good structure and replaced it with this current one we all now complain against.

No matter how many times you guys repeat this lies, it will never become true.

Ironsi left the regions intact the way they were. He only nationalized all the civil service in the regions and put it under military command.

It was actually coward Gowon that dissolved the region through state creation.

iaatmguy:

At least the country Should be restructured.
We can not continue to live off one part of the country. It doesn't giveway for development of other regions.
Am from the s/w and i pray we practice true federalism.
It will ease pressure of some region, and give way for other parts to harness their resources

True federalism That your hero rejected 50yrs go. No more. Biafra or nothing.

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You call it simple restructing after your people rejected aburri agreement. We are waiting at the NASS to vote against it ok. 3million biafrans died beacuse You people said no to resource control . God Will punish any NASS member from Biafra That Will support it.
After Biafra, You people should negotiate with Nigeria for resource control ok. Myopic set of people. As ojukwu told Wiwa' good morning to all of u fighting for resource control". Biafra or nothing. Biafra without ikwerre, izon, oron, urhobo, itsekeiri, Edo and others is my dream country. Biafra of igbo nation, ibibio, anang, efik, ogoja, igala and idoma if they all wish to join is my dream country.

I mentioned igala and idoma because of Wawa people. Ibibio, efik, ogoja and anang because we all suffered during and after Biafra war. Even the 20pounds policy from devilish Awolowo affected them.[/qtjrae

In 1960 we started with 75% resource control, but just 6 years later two Biafrans named Aguyi Ironsi and Ojukwu dismantled it and forcefully replaced it with this unitary system against the advice of the ikwerre, izon, oron, urhobo, Hausa Fulani Yorubas, itsekeiri, Edo, ibibio, anang, efik, ogoja, igala and idoma.

Aburi Accord was rejected by all these tribes mentioned above because it did not really seek to return us to the truly federal structure which Ironsi and Ojukwu abolished but was a document proposing confederacy which was entirely new to Nigeria and Nigerians.

Fremancipation:

No matter how many times you guys repeat this lies, it will never become true.

Ironsi left the regions intact the way they were. He only nationalized all the civil service in the regions and put it under military command.

It was actually coward Gowon that dissolved the region through state creation.

Let us even assume you are correct. But by nationalizing the civil service Ironsi made it known to hitherto ignorant Gowon that anyone can bastardize the constitution without following due process and go free with it. And Gowon only followed suit.
Why nationalize the civil service when no one asked him for that? In whose interest did he do that?
It is like saying Adam only ate the fruit and caused the sin of disobedience only and therefore cannot be blamed for every other sin that came to be as a ripple effect if his disobedience.

fiizznation:
Stupid talk. You shouted your stupid "one Nigeria" anthem more than anybody when your "supposed" son was in charge, but immediately the dude was booted out of office by the electorate, you changed your anthem. When it favors you, you remember "one Nigeria" is the best thing that had happened to you, and when it doesn't favors you, you cry like cry babies.

And this silly nonsense have been happening since ironsi introduced his selfish unification nonsense in Nigeria. Anyway you guys can scream for all you want, you can only deceive yourselves with your hypocritical "restructure the country" nonsense.

You can take us back to 1960, or pre independent maybe taken us aback will move Nigeria forward. I add we bring back Aso Rock to Calabar or Lagos. Some Nigerians suggest national confeb No, restructuring No, Separation No, uptill now you people have not suggested anything on how the entire country of Nigeria can move forward. And your voice suggests we maintain the status quo. Meaning, you accept whatever you see in Nigeria today . Buhari is on power today still Nigeria lack peace and real development. I always suggest we try something new, which is bringing all Nigerians under one table and draw a unifying constitution or blueprint , not for igbo,, Hausa, Yoruba or other tribes but the one for Nigerian people. But to begin we Nigerians need to be sincere to ourselves first.

TonyeBarcanista:

The message here is demand for restructuring, that is a renegotiated country.

Governor Wike was speaking within the context of Biafra, and the fact is that the people of Ijaw nation and the entire Niger Delta are not seeking for a splinter country nor do they have any business with iPod confusionist group.


Nigeria must be restructured to make any progress

AFON. JA....PLS NA ONLY UNA DEY CARRY DIS ONE NAIJA MATTER FOR HEAD.....EVEN D NORTH ARE FEED UP..

Deadlytruth:


Let us even assume you are correct. But by nationalizing the civil service Ironsi made it known to hitherto ignorant Gowon that anyone can bastardize the constitution without following due process and go free with it. And Gowon only followed suit.
Why nationalize the civil service when no one asked him for that? In whose interest did he do that?
It is like saying Adam only ate the fruit and caused the sin of disobedience only and therefore cannot be blamed for every other sin that came to be as a ripple effect if his disobedience.

Ironsi did it to bring things back under control after the coup. The nation was very chaotic that period and the only way as a military man he knew to control things was to set up a civilian command structure that mirrored the military. He never dissolved the regions. They were left intact.

how can i be one nig wit this type

Iykopeee:
Come and restructure Nigeria let's see. u all will wait forever including ur grand kids

Fremancipation:


Ironsi did it to bring things back under control after the coup. The nation was very chaotic that period and the only way as a military man he knew to control things was to set up a civilian command structure that mirrored the military. He never dissolved the regions. They were left intact.

You get it wrong again. The cause of the anarchy then was all about which party formed alliances with which and who was perceived to have rigged elections and censuses. It had absolutely nothing to do with the civil service or structure of government. So one expected Ironsi to have busied himself with the reviewing or cancelling the disputed elections or censuses or better still calling all the politicians to a round table to address these issues. But he left all that completely and went after the civil service which by law is not even connected to politics and politicians whose misunderstandings were the cause of the problem. How exactly was the unification of the civil service supposed to quell the riots in the western region, calm the Northerners over the overnight gruesome assassinations of their leading lights, convince the Northern military officers that justice would be done, placate the supporters of Akintola who was murdered, placate Northerners over the shooting of Ahmadu Bello's wife directly on her pregnant abdomen, placate the Yoruba's and Northerners over the cruel killing of a lot of their fine innocent top rank gentlemen officers?
All these were the real potential sources of further anarchy. So how could an act of tinkering with the civil service have addressed all those issues? What concerns civil service with the assassination of politicians and military officers?
If at all one would even relate the issues with the structure, then one can safely say that the anarchy was partly caused by an abuse and misuse of powers of the central government headed by Tafawa Balewa. Now if the centre could so abuse power to cause anarchy, simple logic therefore dictated that whoever sincerely came with the mission of arresting the situation and returning normalcy should have even reduced the powers of the centre to prevent such abuse in future meaning a further decentralization of all sectors including civil service. But ironically Ironsi unified the civil service thereby further concentrating more powers at the very centre whose abuse of power caused the mess in the first instance. So Ironsi was the cause of our problems any way you look at it.

Recall that all that was in January immediately he seized power from civilians. He, Ironsi, would later on in May of that same year promulgate the Unification Decree which dissolved the regions and replaced them with 35 provinces to be headed by soldiers whom he hoped would report to him. In what kind of federation do the heads of the federating units report to the centre? In fact the best way Ironsi would have controlled the situation was to simply court martial the coupists as a deterrent to other young soldiers against the future, replace the slain premiers with their deputies, release all the political prisoners and reconcile them, swear in Alhaji Dipcharima whom the NPC, as the senior coalition partner of the NCNC, threw up as replacement for murdered Balewa, and leave the stage as a professional military man.
With that our democracy would have been preserved and spared of the long chain of subsequent coups, the likes of Gowon, Murtala Mohammed, Obj, IBB, Abacha, Shagari, etc would never have ever tasted power, the National tragedy of war which took innocent lives in millions would have been avoided and Ironsi's name would have gone down into history as a hero of democracy in the whole of Africa with a legacy shining brightly against the African leaders sit tight attitude. Perhaps he might not have even died by now. Ironsi was just a man of greed and very poor sense of judgement.

zendy:


You are not answering my question. My question is, in the event that Nigeria never restructures, what is the alternative? Do you accept the status quo?

People have been talking about restructuring since Aburi in 1967, guess what? It has come to nothing. The restructuring you are talking cannot be achieved without constitutional change. To change the constitution, you need a a 2 thirds majority vote in the national assembly. With the North controling nearly 63% of the national assembly vote as opposed to just 37% for the south, how will restructuring ever happen? Or you believe the North will one allow anyone to control their resources, particulary Oil & Gas. This is not about Biafra, this is about the reality on the ground.

God bless you my brother! But the big questions I want to ask every true and patriotic Nigerian are; must Nigeria divide into so many various countries? Why can't we simply divide into two as we were prior to the January 1st, 1914 Amalgamation by Lord Lugard? Why is it so sooo difficult for the Southern tribes to demand for a Southern Nigeria Republic? I think it would make more sense to the General Assembly of the United Nations if such a demand is presented to it. All this Biafra, Niger Delta, Oduduwa Republics to me is bullshit. Let's just split Nigeria into two with Lagos as our capital in the South! PERIOD!

ceejay4real:


God bless you my brother! But the big questions I want to ask every true and patriotic Nigerian are; must Nigeria divide into so many various countries? Why can't we simply divide into two as we were prior to the January 1st, 1914 Amalgamation by Lord Lugard? Why is it so sooo difficult for the Southern tribes to demand for a Southern Nigeria Republic? I think it would make more sense to the General Assembly of the United Nations if such a demand is presented to it. All this Biafra, Niger Delta, Oduduwa Republics to me is bullshit. Let's just split Nigeria into two with Lagos as our capital in the South! PERIOD!

It cant work. Igbos and Yorubas cant stand each other

proeast:
Honestly, I cant fathom the reason for the attention they give that boy called tonyebarcanista. A random boy just like any walking in the street without any influence whatsoever! I've been saying this, even if IPOB & other separatist groups should stop the agitation today, Nigeria will still implode under its own weight in no distant time. The best we Igbos should be doing now is to be divesting in other parts of Nigeria while investing heavily at home. We have the human and natural resources that it should be seen as a priviledge to others when we identify with them & not the other way round. I dont need to be in CIA to know that the zoo is living in its last days

Lolz@bolded..

I believe that Nigerias failures will catch up with her sooner. With this structure, I dnt see Nigeria existing beyond 10yrs time from Now.

The Almajiri system will turn back to haunt the North, it will be their ultimate Nemesis.

I think a Biafra without Ijaws is music to the ears.

Forget about the rejection of Biafra now, when shiit hits the fan, we may actually key into it, if...

Deadlytruth:


Actually Nigeria started with the kind of beautiful structure the Niger Deltans now hope and pray we return to. But sadly, it was the Biafrans that dismantled that good structure and replaced it with this current one we all now complain against.

And they are now asking that it be returned back to the initial system, a system that is in best interest of all. Is dat not good??

HopeAtHand:


And they are now asking that it be returned back to the initial system, a system that is in best interest of all. Is dat not good??

The way they are doing the asking is not good because in doing so they are refusing to confess that they were the ones who took us away from that structure in the first instance but trying to create the impression that other tribes did that.

proeast:
Very typical, reading this one paragraph alone shows you are afonja. Just look at the shameless way this coward is mystifying the ab.okis as if they are a super power

They don't need to be mystified because they still remain a super power to you, which is why you CANNOT use military force against the North to get your Biafra after you were obliterated in 1966, and can only rant as you cower behind your computer screen.

Fremancipation:

No matter how many times you guys repeat this lies, it will never become true.

Ironsi left the regions intact the way they were. He only nationalized all the civil service in the regions and put it under military command.

It was actually coward Gowon that dissolved the region through state creation.

IPODS

Deadlytruth:


You get it wrong again. The cause of the anarchy then was all about which party formed alliances with which and who was perceived to have rigged elections and censuses. It had absolutely nothing to do with the civil service or structure of government. So one expected Ironsi to have busied himself with the reviewing or cancelling the disputed elections or censuses or better still calling all the politicians to a round table to address these issues. But he left all that completely and went after the civil service which by law is not even connected to politics and politicians whose misunderstandings were the cause of the problem. How exactly was the unification of the civil service supposed to quell the riots in the western region, calm the Northerners over the overnight gruesome assassinations of their leading lights, convince the Northern military officers that justice would be done, placate the supporters of Akintola who was murdered, placate Northerners over the shooting of Ahmadu Bello's wife directly on her pregnant abdomen, placate the Yoruba's and Northerners over the cruel killing of a lot of fine innocent top rank gentlemen officers?
All these were the real potential sources of further anarchy. So how could an act of tinkering with the civil service have addressed all those issues? What concerns civil service with the assassination of politicians and military officers?
If at all one would even relate the issues with the structure, then one can safely say that the anarchy was partly caused by an abuse and misuse of powers of the central government headed by Tafawa Balewa. Now if the centre could so abuse power to cause anarchy, simple logic therefore dictated that whoever sincerely came with the mission of arresting the situation and returning normalcy should have even reduced the powers of the centre to prevent such abuse in future meaning a further decentralization of all sectors including civil service. But ironically Ironsi unified the civil service thereby further concentrating more powers at the very centre whose abuse of power caused the mess in the first instance. So Ironsi was the cause of our problems any way you look at it.

Keep educating that iPod and rubbishing his fraudulent attempts to revise history and wash his kinsman of his selfish act that has backfired disastrously for the Ibos.

Easterner Ironsi gave Nigeria its present unitary structure and they must continue to live with it. This is the simple truth.

HopeAtHand:


And they are now asking that it be returned back to the initial system, a system that is in best interest of all. Is dat not good??

You must think northerners are daft enough to sit back and allow some greedy okoros pick and choose the structure they want whenever they like and think it favors them.

The beautiful thing is that they have the political and military force to ensure such okoro greed never takes place.

HopeAtHand:


Lolz@bolded..

I believe that Nigerias failures will catch up with her sooner. With this structure, I dnt see Nigeria existing beyond 10yrs time from Now.

The Almajiri system will turn back to haunt the North, it will be their ultimate Nemesis.

I think a Biafra without Ijaws is music to the ears.

Forget about the rejection of Biafra now, when shiit hits the fan, we may actually key into it, if...

wait ooo is it the same hopeathand

cc
TonyeBarcanista

Rayhutar:

You people are the problem of Nigeria.
Who is deceiving who.
Time will tell.
Even US don't practice one party system and you want one party system for others to benefit.
Let's keep on,one day Nigeria will disintegrate like USSR and Yugoslavia

Nobody is advocating a one party system, but putting all your eggs in one basket means you're either going to end up in a win-win or lose-lose situation.

As the latter is the case, you're being told to be bold enough to stomach the outcome of your dull naive politics, since you're bold enough to emphasize your freedom to vote your choices.

project50:
look never tell your enemies what you have in mind that what wike did

And the Sultan is Wikes enemy how

ShakaZullu:


wait ooo is it the same hopeathand

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TonyeBarcanista

Nigeria is a failed state.. Everyone need a fresh start.

DecemberIV:


Nobody is advocating a one party system, but putting all your eggs in one basket means you're either going to end up in a win-win or lose-lose situation.

As the latter is the case, you're being told to be bold enough to stomach the outcome of your dull naive politics, since you're bold enough to emphasize your freedom to vote your choices.

Naive politics, you guys will never cease to amaze me. Tell me, Mr. run-mouth, how do you explain naïve politics to current Nigerian voting pattern using the following index?
Those who votes base on perceived performance and merit
Those who votes on tribal and religion lines
Those who hack others to dearth because their anointed candidate lost an election (2011 election)
Those who threatens that monkeys and baboons will be soaked in blood if electoral outcome do not favor them.
Please, tell me, who among these groups practice naïve politics according to your postulation?


By their fruits we shall know them. Geopolitical voting pattern truly reflect who’s actually practicing naïve politics.

HopeAtHand:


Nigeria is a failed state.. Everyone need a fresh start.

On point. A negotiated fresh start, where stakes and roles will be clearly defined. But the Neanderthals will be quick to label you a felon for stating out this raw truth…. I wonder how long they will keep navigating this medieval system before they come to terms with reality.

APC and bad belle people, why can't you leave this man alone, He is trying to fix Rivers that was scattered by Mr. Corruption, God is not happy oo

iaatmguy:
regionalism does not mean we split, just so that pressure is not subject of a region.
I am from Lagos state, not from SS,.
We really should practice true federalism. Each region should develop their region. WITH A CLAUSE THAT NOBODY / region SHOULD AT ANY POINT IN TIME TALK OF SECEDING

Why are you afraid of seccession? This north south thing to me was ill concieved and is right now only fuelled by the resources in the Niger Delta, As a Niger Deltan i do not in any way share anything in common with a northerner... They will do better if they stay in a northern caliphate or republic
Go to Ghana, US nobody talks about unity because they are naturally united and not divided along any line whatsoever.