blackpanda:
Very good move!

Nigeria and China are strategic partners. We have no business or benefit from Taiwan. China has just pledged a $40bn trade deal with Nigeria. More importantly, we will not support the secession of any country!

What are the fears behind your "more importantly" ?

If you won't support the secession of a part of a nation, then do the right thing, compromise where and when necessary and not to wish you gain all at the expense of your neighbour wishing je keeps quiet in and accept thr tight corner you placed him.


If you so much value unity, then give a listening ear to your neighbour and try to understand his view and not by wishing unity under your own terms.

Nigeria must divide one day if compromises are not done soonest to "appease" or "not to lose all".

Mille:


Only a dumb person will even associate the Taiwan independence with Palestine. A secessionist state is different from an occupied country but a religious bigot will never see that. I'm sure you are Ibo.

Israel are just like the Ibos. Welcome them to your state and very soon, they claim it's a 'no man's land'.

Anyway, bilateral relations with China is more beneficial than with Taiwan, so I agree with the dullard here.

I barely got your point before you digressed and jumped into your igbophobia (and you were really trying to make sense in your point) . You should have just continued on that part. FYI anyways if it changes anything, I'm a full blooded Uhrobo man from the ND. Cheers bro

[[s]quote author=proeast post=52764928] Just Negodu Who are you or the we, you are reffering to? FYI, The dullard in chief, has been supporting the emergence of Palestine & Western Sahara, so better be informed![/quote][/s]


Pls just shut up and stop blabbing. Palestine has got nothing to do with this. That's an entirely different issue ok.

bishopkay:


But the man is supporting the Palestinian movement abi? I no wan talk Abeg. Double standards

For god sake palentine/israel issue has got nothing to do with this. Palestine was in existence before Jews were relocated there

KVC1970:
APC lack diplomacy

Seriously; if you were a policy maker you will align with Taiwan as against China?. No wonder some people fear giving leadership to the youths. Better not to comment on what you don't know than expose your ignorance.

dvee2:

And what is the value of trade between Nigeria and China,have u checked?
International relations today is about strategic interest, that is what is more beneficial for any nation period.

I didn't deny that. I was only debunking his claim that Taiwan has nothing to offer Nigeria.

bishopkay:


But the man is supporting the Palestinian movement abi? I no wan talk Abeg. Double standards

really..comparing palestine with taiwan has shown your level of ignorance. taiwan is and has always been an integral part of china .they are only tryin to seccede but for palestine ,this is an established state of hundred of years whose territory is been forcefully taken due to false religous beliefs

naptu2:
Nigeria severed diplomatic relations with Taiwan in 1971! The Nigerian government then established diplomatic relations with the Peoples Republic of China in February 1971 and General Gowon visited Beijing in 1974. Nigeria has not reestablished diplomatic relations with Taiwan since then.

Taiwan established a trade and cultural office in Lagos in 1991. It was moved to Abuja in 2001. That office has been passing itself off as an embassy since c2013, despite the fact that there is no diplomatic relations between Nigeria and Taiwan.

The Chinese government protested the activities of the Taiwan Trade Office to the Nigerian Government in 2016, but the Nigerian Government replied that the trade office is not an embassy.

The Nigerian Government has now ordered the Taiwanese to move their trade office to Lagos to make the distinction clear.


(Most countries of the world operate a similar system. Eg, the US does not have an embassy in Taiwan, neither does Taiwan have an embassy in the US. The US broke off diplomatic relations with Taiwan in 1980.

The US has a trade office in Taiwan and Taiwan has a trade office in the US.

The UK broke diplomatic relations with Taiwan in 1950 and recognised China in the same year.

The United Nations stopped recognising the ROC in 1971 and instead recognises the Peoples Republic of China).

You should be a lecturer

bishopkay:


But the man is supporting the Palestinian movement abi? I no wan talk Abeg. Double standards

bishopkay:


But the man is supporting the Palestinian movement abi? I no wan talk Abeg. Double standards

really..comparing palestine with taiwan has shown your level of ignorance. taiwan is and has always been an integral part of china .they are only tryin to seccede but for palestine ,this is an established state of hundred of years whose territory is been forcefully taken due to false religous beliefs

blackpanda:
Very good move!

Nigeria and China are strategic partners. We have no business or benefit from Taiwan. China has just pledged a $40bn trade deal with Nigeria. More importantly, we will not support the secession of any country!

But your president is currently supporting western sahara or are you a learner?

hamzeiy:



really..comparing palestine with taiwan has shown your level of ignorance. taiwan is and has always been an integral part of china .they are only tryin to seccede but for palestine ,this is an established state of hundred of years whose territory is been forcefully taken due to false religous beliefs

Why would taiwan always be an integral part of china? Is it from historical basis or what.
Did the taiwanese nation tell you that they are an integral part of china?
So who are you to tell them what they want to be part of ?

jerseyboy:
See what poverty has done to Nigeria. Loss of sovereign will. Beggar has no choice.

i wonder when Nigerians will start reading to comprehend.

blackpanda:
Very good move!

Nigeria and China are strategic partners. We have no business or benefit from Taiwan. China has just pledged a $40bn trade deal with Nigeria. More importantly, we will not support the secession of any country!

Palestine? Western Sahara? Your Bubu supports the separation of those from their current places to form new countries o!

dvee2:


Just like the incompetent "ineffectual buffoon" supports the Apartheid regime of isreal.

For your information, Nigeria's foreign policy on this issue has always been abstention and neutrality for obvious reasons.

Background in summary

(I'm writing this from something that I read 32 years ago, so please forgive me for any errors).

Dr Sun Yat-sen is considered by both the Peoples Republic of China (PRC or Mainland China) and the Republic Of China (ROC or Taiwan) as being the founder of modern China. He led a revolution against the Emperor of China and the warlords in the early 1900s, because he felt that the monarchy was archaic.


Dr Yat-sen was the president of the Republic Of China from 1912 until his death in 1925. He led a nationalist social democratic system.

There was a leadership crisis after Dr Sun's death, but General Chiang Kai-Shek eventually took over as president of China.


However, General Kai-Shek abandoned Dr Yat-sen's nationalist social democratic system and established a nationalist military dictatorship (the Kuomintang). This led to a split between Chiang Kai-Shek and some of Sun Yat-sen's followers. There was also a split between Chiang Kai-Shek's nationalists and the communists, led by Mao Zedong (Chairman Mao) and this led to the Chinese Civil War.

The Chinese Civil War (Nationalists vs Communists) began in 1927. However, the war stopped in 1936, after the Japanese invasion, as both the nationalists and communists joined forces to fight against the Japanese in World War Two.

The war continued after World War Two and the communists were able to defeat the nationalists and chase them off mainland China. General Chiang Kai-Shek and his army retreated to the island of Formosa (now known as Taiwan) and there was a stalemate in 1950.

No peace treaty was actually signed by both sides and they are still officially at war, even though there hasn't actually been any military conflict in decades.

Both the government's of the Republic Of China (Taiwan) and the Peoples Republic of China (mainland China) insist that they are the legitimate chinese government and both the ROC (Taiwan) and the PRC (mainland China) have a one China policy.

This has often caused confusion in the international community. The PRC will break off diplomatic relations with any country that recognises the ROC, while the ROC will break off diplomatic relations with any country that recognises the PRC.

The ROC was initially recognised by the United Nations and it held China's seat on the UN Security Council, but the UN eventually recognised the PRC and stopped recognising the ROC in 1971 (for obvious reasons).

The International Olympic Committee reached an agreement with mainland China and Taiwan that Taiwan will be able to compete at the Olympics and other sporting events under the name Chinese Taipei .

The issue of relations between Taiwan and mainland China has always been a controversial issue in Taiwan. General Chiang-Kai-Shek ruled Taiwan from the 1920s to the 1970s. He had always insisted that his government was the real chinese government and the government always had the ambition to take back mainland China by force.

Taiwan alternated between military and democratic governments after Chiang died. Some governments believed that Taiwan should adopt a hostile stance to mainland China, while others believed that the issue could be resolved through dialogue. There have also been politicians who believed that Taiwan should become an independent country, rather than trying to retake mainland China or surrendering to the mainland chinese. There have been several referenda in Taiwan over the type of relationship that Taiwan should have with the mainland (whether it should be hostile or conciliatory).

Initially, the view in mainland China was that Taiwan should be taken by force. The Soviet Union and the United States were determined to prevent this from happening. The Soviet Union believed that the government on the mainland was the authentic chinese government, but they believed that the matter should be resolved by dialogue and diplomacy, rather than war. The United States had a defence treaty with Taiwan which committed them to defend Taiwan if the mainland tried to invade it. This treaty was revoked in 1980 when the US broke off diplomatic relations with Taiwan (the US had already reached a rapprochement with mainland China in the 1970s when President Nicon visited Chairman Mao in Beijing).

The mainland government now believes that the issue can be resolved by dialogue and diplomacy, but they still haven't taken the military option off the table. The mainland chinese military still conducts exercises very close to Taiwan. Most people believe that this is done to intimidate the Taiwanese.

Most countries and the UN prefer to have diplomatic relations with mainland China for obvious reasons. China has the second biggest economy in the world, the largest market (over a billion people) and it is also a major military power (it has nuclear weapons).

WhoRUDeceiving:
What benefit did Onyeama get? Is it for recognition for what his people are agitating?

paranoia

WhoRUDeceiving:
What benefit did Onyeama get? Is it for recognition for what his people are agitating?

Maybe or Maybe Not

KINGwax007:
Taiwan, no worry your head, jut find a way to tell the president directly and see how fast he would fire the eastern monkey wey by means, son collect bribe!

Unlike the hat wearing dullard, buhari, my president, no get time for this...Na action man

A times I wonder how some people reason, could there be any justification for lacking intuition or common sense at it's minimum?

Mainland China has 1400 million people, GDP 13 000 000 million US dollars, developing rate 6.6% annually

Taiwan Province has 20 million people, GDP 500 000million US dollars, developing rate 2.1% annually


Nigeria has 160 million people, GDP 400 000million US dollars,developing rate 0 % annually


is this not clear enough? the only country nowadays that could have a dissenting voice against China is USA, but even USA's voice is more and more feeble.

no one can stop China. it is the neo-superpower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idG75WFaSMQ

Nigeria backs 'One China' policy, cuts ties with Taiwan

KINGwax007:
Taiwan, no worry your head, jut find a way to tell the president directly and see how fast he would fire the eastern monkey wey by means, son collect bribe!

Unlike the hat wearing dullard, buhari, my president, no get time for this...Na action man

illiteracy at its best