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Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by tonitone1(m): 6:30am On Jan 14, 2007
THIS MAN - Yar’Adua IS BEEN FORCED TO RUN!, PDP SHOULD LEAVE HIM TO GO AND TEACH CHEMISTRY IN ABU!!
Presidential Race Derails Yar’Adua’s Plan

From thisday newspaper of Sat 14th


But for the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) presidential race, the Katsina State Governor and the party's candidate in the forthcoming presidential elections, Alhaji Umar Yar'Adua would have been gearing up to return to Ahmadu Bello University (ABU), Zaria to teach by May 29.
Prior to his emergence as PDP presidential candidate, Yar'Adua was said to have picked up an appointment with the school to lecture on completion of his second term in office as governor.
PDP Ex-Officio member (North East), Barrister Abdullahi Jallo, revealed in an interview with THISDAY that, “Unknown to many people in this country, Yar’Adua had actually picked up an appointment letter to return to the classroom in the Department of Chemistry, ABU, Zaria as a lecturer.
“That appointment letter is still with him, you can go and confirm at the ABU or you can go and confirm from him” he said. “Before he went to ABU to pick the appointment to return to the class, he was asked to contest for the Senate or wait for an ambassadorial position but he refused, saying he wanted to go back to the classroom. He was eventually pressurized to contest as presidential aspirant of the party.
“That shows that Yar’Adua is not a greedy man hungry for power for the sake of power. It also shows that he is very strong and not sick as people are spreading wicked rumours about him. It also shows that anybody who looks for power in an over ambitious manner does not get it in Nigeria ,” he said.
Jallo, from Gombe State was reacting to insinuations that Yar’Adua was not well and healthy enough to withstand the rigours of governing Nigeria and that he was being imposed on Nigeria. He went down memory lane recalling that since 1960, politicians who were too hungry for power had not realised their presidential ambitions.
“If you look back you will discover that after independence, all those that were too hungry for power did not get it beginning from Chief Obafemi Awolowo, to the Second Republic during the Shagari era. You will remember that Shagari did not show interest in the presidency, it was people like Mallam Adamu Ciroma, Alhaji Sule Takuma, Dr. Ibrahim Tahir, Damasanin Kano, Alhaji Maitama Sule, that were looking for power.
“If you know the history of this country you will discover that it is the person who does not look for the leadership of this country that gets it. That shows that it is God that gives power,” he said.
According to him, “the era of political elite looking for power has gone, we are now in era of political servants of the people, who are ready to transform this country for the better for our children and the children yet unborn.”
Yar'Adua holds his first and masters' degrees in Analytical Chemistry. He had taught Chemistry before at ABU before becoming governor in 1999.
Responding to insinuations in some quarters that it was wrong for President Olusegun Obasanjo to have said he would lead Yar'Adua's presidential campaign as it will destract him from being focused to complete the ongoing projects, Jallo said, the president has robust energy and high intelligence that will not derail any of his planned programmes.
Yar’Adua emerged as presidential candidate of the PDP after the other governors in the race withdrew on the eve of the election. He went on to defeat 11 other aspirants.
While responding to allegations that his health was suspect, the Katsina governor said he was only treated for liver disease in a German hospital in year 2000 and that he has never been seriously ill since then. He then challenged those doubting the state of his health to a game of squash which he plays so well. Squash which is an indoor sports game is naturally an energy tasking game.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by McKren(m): 9:51am On Jan 14, 2007
well lets see what they will make of our education sector now that we have 2 ex-lecturers as president and vice.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by toshmann(m): 1:41pm On Jan 14, 2007
McKren:

well lets see what they will make of our education sector now that we have 2 ex-lecturers as president and vice.

dont push ur luck too far
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 1:44pm On Jan 14, 2007
:d
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Afam(m): 3:17pm On Jan 14, 2007
At least he has a verifiable past and did well as regards managing public funds under his care.

If all the governors decided not to loot like him Nigeria would have been a lot better.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jan 14, 2007
Wait a minute, did I miss something here?. . .How can you get a teaching appointment in a university without a PhD? No wonder our education system in Nigeria sucks.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Sijien(m): 11:17pm On Jan 14, 2007
u can lecture without a phd
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 11:33pm On Jan 14, 2007
There's a difference between being a graudate student who lectures and a full time lecturer. In most universities in the West, you can't be a lecturer in a university without a PhD.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by tonitone1(m): 12:52am On Jan 15, 2007
@ Donzman--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wait a minute, did I miss something here?. . .How can you get a teaching appointment in a university without a PhD? No wonder our education system in Nigeria sucks.

U can lecture with a master degree and that's whay Yar'dua has, an Msc in Chemistry, probably if he was still lecturing he could hace gotten his Phd, even 1st degree holders with 1st class are graduate assistance while to proceed for their masters
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 12:58am On Jan 15, 2007
toni tone:

@ Donzman--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
U can lecture with a master degree and that's whay Yar'dua has, an Msc in Chemistry, probably if he was still lecturing he could hace gotten his Phd, even 1st degree holders with 1st class are graduate assistance while to proceed for their masters

Do you know the difference between a graduate student lecturing often as a TA and someone being appointed as a lecturer in a university?. . .You need a PhD to be able to teach full time in a university.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Afam(m): 12:45pm On Jan 15, 2007
Donzman:

There's a difference between being a graudate student who lectures and a full time lecturer. In most universities in the West, you can't be a lecturer in a university without a PhD.

The West is not Nigeria. Afterall we have terrible teachers that are Phd holders and very good teachers that don't have Phd.

And we need to move towards a system where a lot of emphasis is being place on paper qualifications. I know some people that do not know jack parading with Master's degrees in Nigeria.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jan 15, 2007
Donzman:

Wait a minute, did I miss something here?. . .How can you get a teaching appointment in a university without a PhD? No wonder our education system in Nigeria sucks.

Yep as long as you are a northerner in a northern school, you can lecture comfortably with even a bachelors degree as long as you decieve everyone that you are on a school sponsored graduate program!

Afam:

The West is not Nigeria. Afterall we have terrible teachers that are Phd holders and very good teachers that don't have Phd.

And we need to move towards a system where a lot of emphasis is being place on paper qualifications. I know some people that do not know jack parading with Master's degrees in Nigeria.

Excellent reason why Nigeria is light years behind the west in terms of development! When next someone asks why Nigeria is a failed state, tell them the west is not Nigeria!

Besides dear mr. i-know-it-all, the present development that we see in the western world today is directly related to their excellent academic and research programs! It is common knowledge here in the US that whether you are middle class, lower class or higher class is directly dependent on your paper qualifications! If the western world places so much emphasis on paper qualifications i wonder why Nigeria should not! The fact that some masters degree holders (perhaps 1 out of every 100!) does not merit the degree should make the degree irrelevant!

And let no one remind me about successful "drop outs" like Bill Gates! I'm sure Microsoft is not staffed by "drop outs"!
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Mariory(m): 6:18pm On Jan 15, 2007
Donzman:

There's a difference between being a graudate student who lectures and a full time lecturer. In most universities in the West, you can't be a lecturer in a university without a PhD.

That's not true. Certainly not of the UK. You don't even need to have a postgraduate degree to lecture in a University.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by adconline(m): 10:20pm On Jan 15, 2007
not true guys , u dont need a phd to lecture in foreign universities, you can be still be teaching while working for your phd. besides i dont think that achebe and soyinka have their phds.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 11:10pm On Jan 15, 2007
Again I'll reiterate for all the dumb heads here (they're abundant), there is a difference between being a guest lecturer, graduate student lecturing and a full time lecturer/professor in a university.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by adconline(m): 12:25am On Jan 16, 2007
But this post did not specify which one Yar'dua had hoped to apply for.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 1:11am On Jan 16, 2007
@ Donzman!

Seconded sir! A bachelors degree holder is refered to as a graduate assistant not a lecturer. Masters degree holders do lecture too sometimes but only if they are extremely good in their field and working towards a phd, well except in northern nigeria!
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Mariory(m): 2:03pm On Jan 16, 2007
Donzman:

Again I'll reiterate for all the dumb heads here (they're abundant), there is a difference between being a guest lecturer, graduate student lecturing and a full time lecturer/professor in a university.

No Sir! Before you insult others it is advisable to know exactly what you're talking about. A Doctoral degree is not always required to be permanently employed by a university especially for Engineering and Geology fields.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by McKren(m): 2:34pm On Jan 16, 2007
This is the problem with this Turaki guys, as soon as you disagree with them they try to bully you with words like gullible, lack of idea, dumbhead etc.
Who says people without PhD dont lecture anywhere in the world. There are loads of them in western Universities.

Come to think of it why argue the status of the employment, whether permanent, temporary or visiting you are engaged in knowledge transfer to a group of students thus you are a lecturer. Cant understand why this should be an argument when it was not specified the type of appointment Yaradua got.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 5:41pm On Jan 16, 2007
McKren:

This is the problem with this Turaki guys, as soon as you disagree with them they try to bully you with words like gullible, lack of idea, dumbhead etc.
Who says people without PhD don't lecture anywhere in the world. There are loads of them in western Universities.

Come to think of it why argue the status of the employment, whether permanent, temporary or visiting you are engaged in knowledge transfer to a group of students thus you are a lecturer. Cant understand why this should be an argument when it was not specified the type of appointment Yaradua got.

There are more things involved in planning a course than just teaching it. Course notes, grading, the composition of what the course is all about and what you want students to learn.

You can't be a full time lecturer/professor with an appointment without a PhD. Keep arguing!
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by McKren(m): 6:04pm On Jan 16, 2007
Donzman nobody says Yaradua was made a professor. He was only going to lecture of which you dont even know the terms of that contract.

in fact this will be my last post on this issue cos no one else knows how the university works other than you.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 6:19pm On Jan 16, 2007
McKren:

Donzman nobody says Yaradua was made a professor. He was only going to lecture of which you don't even know the terms of that contract.

in fact this will be my last post on this issue because no one else knows how the university works other than you.

With his MSc., he was a lecturer at a polytechnic which is where he's supposed to be. To teach in a university, PhD. is required. The only way I see him teaching at a university is if he's in the process of acquiring a PhD., other than that, NOPE!
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Mariory(m): 6:26pm On Jan 16, 2007
Donzman:

You can't be a full time lecturer/professor with an appointment without a PhD. Keep arguing!

You are obviously clueless. Carry on.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Afam(m): 6:41pm On Jan 16, 2007
davidylan:

Besides dear mr. i-know-it-all, the present development that we see in the western world today is directly related to their excellent academic and research programs! It is common knowledge here in the US that whether you are middle class, lower class or higher class is directly dependent on your paper qualifications! If the western world places so much emphasis on paper qualifications i wonder why Nigeria should not! The fact that some masters degree holders (perhaps 1 out of every 100!) does not merit the degree should make the degree irrelevant!

Anyone that understands anything better than you do isn't a mr know-it-all, it is just a case of being bold enough to accept responsibilities of what one knows and what one doesn't know.

While many of us are willing to learn and discuss issues we understand you are carried away with baseless statements and sometimes incohrent submissions. Do focus on your exams so you don't become a liability.

@Donzman,

I believe you are dead wrong in your position that non Phd holders can not lecture in the university. Though it is not necessary some of us actually have certificates from well respected universities in the West and we know that all the lecturers don't have Phds. Unless you are talking about a different West or even Taribo West for that matter.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jan 16, 2007
Afam:

While many of us are willing to learn and discuss issues we understand you are carried away with baseless statements and sometimes incohrent submissions. Do focus on your exams so you don't become a liability.

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Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by mrmetoo(m): 8:15pm On Jan 16, 2007
You do not need a phd to be a full time lecturer. Most of them are holders but not all.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jan 16, 2007
Ok, I've done some asking of questions, it depends on the institution in question. Common sense tells us though that PhD teachers will perform better than MSc holders.

So, there you go.
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by adconline(m): 6:54am On Jan 17, 2007
Achebe and Soyinka dont have their Phds ok. College tutors in the west are commonly called professors while in Nigeria, you may have your PhD with out being called a professor even though its not an academic certification.

people should not make baseless statement without verification. It seemed that you now concurred with your source in Naija. Its high time we acknowledged that we are not mitochondria of knowledge on this forum
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by toshmann(m): 12:03pm On Jan 17, 2007
adconline:

Its high time we acknowledged that we are not mitochondria of knowledge on this forum

bekee grin grin
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by McKren(m): 12:27pm On Jan 17, 2007
toshmann:

bekee grin grin

oyibooo!!!!
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jan 17, 2007
neither are we the lysosomes of ignorance too! grin
Re: Yar’adua Had Planned To Go Back To Lecture At Abu! by tonitone1(m): 10:56pm On Jan 17, 2007
@Donzman
Ok, I've done some asking of questions, it depends on the institution in question. Common sense tells us though that PhD teachers will perform better than MSc holders.

So, there you go.

Thk God Donzman has finally agreed, so case closed

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