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Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by akigbemaru: 11:36pm On Jan 31, 2017
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Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by Isaacmacdon(m): 11:43pm On Jan 31, 2017
Most times I keep wondering what's wrong with human existence. As for the idiot tearing the bible, I have no explanation for his stupidity. The internet just made him popular. In relation to the issue of religious tolerance, I personally won't tolerate anything that threatens the sanctity of my mind. The so called traditional religion has done more harm than good. Your defending the traditional religion is just a sign of lack of understanding. Most problems faced by most people are as a result of the indulging in a religion that only destroys rather than enhance the value of life.

In sharp contrast to your assertion, I totally disagree.
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by Chiedu4Trump: 11:45pm On Jan 31, 2017
Origin:


Bros Muslims no de worship men. You know now. We believe in Jesus Moses Mohammed etc we do not insult them . Muslims worship the One true God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed.

Because we respect them, e go be somehow if you no come respect wetin we respect.

Why cant you christians be peaceful. You want to burn shrine and be left in peace. You want to mock others and find peace. HYPOCRITE.


Sorry oh, but moslems follow mohammed that is dead.

Jesus is alive and we worship Him.

How can you say you respect Christians when moslems kill christians.

Your quoran even tells moslems not to take Christians & jews as friends.

Surah 5:51
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends;
they are friends of each other;

Now when it comes to violence the whole world is tired of islam.
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by fratermathy(m): 2:01am On Feb 01, 2017
Isaacmacdon:
Most times I keep wondering what's wrong with human existence. As for the idiot tearing the bible, I have no explanation for his stupidity. The internet just made him popular. In relation to the issue of religious tolerance, I personally won't tolerate anything that threatens the sanctity of my mind. The so called traditional religion has done more harm than good. Your defending the traditional religion is just a sign of lack of understanding. Most problems faced by most people are as a result of the indulging in a religion that only destroys rather than enhance the value of life.

In sharp contrast to your assertion, I totally disagree.

Well, opinions must not always conform.

Personally, I believe our African traditional religions and their adherents should be left alone, whether they are good or bad is not for anyone to judge as long as they don't break any known laws of the land.
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 3:10am On Feb 01, 2017
Chiedu4Trump:
MAKE EVERYBODY JUST SABI SAY.
JESUS IS LORD, AND LORD ALONE.
JESUS IS NOT A PEDOPHILE MARRIER AND HE IS NOT A STATUE.

JESUS DIED FOR US, SO YOU DON'T NEED TO BLOW YOURSELF UP
jesus was murdered like a common thief, his mother got raped by a spirit
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 3:13am On Feb 01, 2017
Chiedu4Trump:


Sorry oh, but moslems follow mohammed that is dead.

Jesus is alive and we worship Him.

How can you say you respect Christians when moslems kill christians.

Your quoran even tells moslems not to take Christians & jews as friends.

Surah 5:51
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends;
they are friends of each other;

Now when it comes to violence the whole world is tired of islam.
jesus. alive. u must. be a fool,he was killed and god watched
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 3:15am On Feb 01, 2017
Chiedu4Trump:


Sorry oh, but moslems follow mohammed that is dead.

Jesus is alive and we worship Him.

How can you say you respect Christians when moslems kill christians.

Your quoran even tells moslems not to take Christians & jews as friends.

Surah 5:51
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends;
they are friends of each other;

Now when it comes to violence the whole world is tired of islam.
jesus. alive. u must. be a fool,he was killed and god watched
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by nurusystem(m): 4:03am On Feb 01, 2017
Funlordmania:


wink

I wonder how the bible or Koran tastes! Do you have to use stew or beer to wash them down?
the bible and shrine will strike dont worryy...
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by TheLawTheLegal: 8:15am On Feb 01, 2017
[quote author=slurryeye post=53303796]No religion tolerance, no peace in Nigeria



I'm not a muslim, but how many times have you seen muslims burnt shrine all in the name of crusade?

they burn churches because they see churches as shrines. They kill Christians because they see Christians as infidels. When Muslims do these, we Christians shout and wail but we still do same to African traditional adherents.

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Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by Isaacmacdon(m): 8:54am On Feb 01, 2017
fratermathy:


Well, opinions must not always conform.

Personally, I believe our African traditional religions and their adherents should be left alone, whether they are good or bad is not for anyone to judge as long as they don't break any known laws of the land.
In respect to your opinion, I'm tempted to ask what exactly are the laws of the land? There's what they call spiritual sanctification, and these traditional religions threatens it. Good morning Sir.
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by Flamezreal(m): 10:07am On Feb 01, 2017
slurryeye:
No religion tolerance, no peace in Nigeria



I'm not a muslim, but how many times have you seen muslims burnt shrine all in the name of crusade? As a Christian, all you should do is preach the words of God to them and show them to God by your way of life. If after conversion they decided to burn their shrines with their hands, good for them. But never walked into their shrines and burn them. It is a serious crime of Arson
where were you when Moslems were burning n killing masquerades in Ibadan and other towns in Oyo state? My own is "live n lets live" Thanks.
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by Origin(f): 12:00am On Feb 02, 2017
Chiedu4Trump:


Sorry oh, but moslems follow mohammed that is dead.

Jesus is alive and we worship Him.

How can you say you respect Christians when moslems kill christians.

Your quoran even tells moslems not to take Christians & jews as friends.

Surah 5:51
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends;
they are friends of each other;

Now when it comes to violence the whole world is tired of islam.

Bros u funny die. God talk am every soul must taste death. No body fit escape am cos baba God Word Na true talk.

The correct translation of that verse is "ally" and not" friend". Which means do not support the unbelievers against the believers. Because another verse states Islam creates brotherhood. So your fellow muslim Na your brother.

So like brother Moses who supported an Israelite against an Egyptian. So if you abuse my muslim brother e go just be like say u don finish me.

This is not like brother Judas who handed over brother Jesus to the enemy o. Na the teaching be that. Holla me if u need more education.
Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by Onechancearmy(m): 10:33am On Feb 14, 2017
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Bros u funny die. God talk am every soul must taste death. No body fit escape am cos baba God Word Na true talk.

The correct translation of that verse is "ally" and not" friend". Which means do not support the unbelievers against the believers. Because another verse states Islam creates brotherhood. So your fellow muslim Na your brother.

So like brother Moses who supported an Israelite against an Egyptian. So if you abuse my muslim brother e go just be like say u don finish me.

This is not like brother Judas who handed over brother Jesus to the enemy o. Na the teaching be that. Holla me if u need more education.



Lol. Islam is the only religion where a passage with a very plain meaning has to be radically reinterpreted if it is not to cause offence.

I wonder what lies they'll use to reinterpret this little nugget:

Quran 9:29
“Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth , (even if they are) Christians and Jews until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

It's always funny to hear the ridiculous excuses muslims come up with to defend the book written by that pedophile, illiterate drinker of camel urine.

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Re: Burning Shrines, Eating Bibles, Killing Christians And Other Issues - Opinion by Walamu(m): 11:30pm On Sep 10, 2018
fratermathy:
A young man angered many Christians recently when he uploaded a video of himself apparently eating a bible and cursing Reverend Father Emmanuel Obimma (Ebube Muonso) for burning a shrine at Ekwulobia, Anambra State. I understand that many people were provoked by religious sentiments in their response to the young man's obviously senseless act. However, I wish to state the objective facts of the matter, not as a Christian or as an adherent of any traditional religion, but as a Nigerian and a cultural activist.

1. No shrine should be burnt by ANYONE under any guise whatsoever. We need to learn religious tolerance (yes, traditional religion is RECOGNISED in Nigeria as a religion). No one gave any person the right to burn another man's place of worship, however fetish it may be perceived. This is especially if the shrine is a communal one. Why don't they go about burning mosques for the same reason? Is it because the traditional worshippers are few, scared and lack political connections? Fulani herdsmen are killing Christians in the country and nothing is being done. Southern Kaduna has become a wasteland where the horrors of the holocaust is re-lived by the inhabitants. The so-called pastors and Christian religious leaders have not spoken out for Christians to defend themselves. They have also not torched any mosque or even verbally castigated the senseless murders. Some have had their own pastors killed and they couldn't even say anything about it. Why do they flex muscles over peaceful shrine goers? Are they the threat to Christianity?

2. Eating a bible or tearing it is counterproductive because it means nothing and does not equate the crime committed against the shrine. Burning a church may be the best way to go in this regard (if an eye is to equal an eye). However, arson is a crime under the law and the law of the land must be respected at all cost. The bible eater should have taken the legal path by sueing the so-called pastor and his church to court for arson and wanton destruction of a religious place (and a cultural heritage site as well). As far as I am concerned, his act is counterproductive, not vengeful enough, and done simply for show.

3. No one should support the burning of the shrine or the eating of a bible. It is best to be objective and not allow religious sentiments to becloud judgement in this instance. Imagine if a church is burnt by adherents of a traditional religion? Christians will cry with rage and shout "foul play"! People will be arrested, investigations made, prison sentences passed, and many more. However, because it is a traditional religious shrine that has been burnt, no Christian or Muslim cares. After all, it is a "pagan" religion! Who gave anyone the moral justification to judge what is to be burnt or not? Why can't we do unto others, what we want them to do unto us?

Whether Christian or not, we have to be tolerant and do things to support harmony. Gone are those days when "demon destroyers" and the likes burn cultural artefacts, religious places, etc, and destroy grooves, natural habitats, etc, in the name of whatever. Just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean you should destroy it. You may preach against it but leave it at that. Even if the adherents have "repented" and no longer practise the religion, they have no right to destroy the shrines. It is better they leave it to grow weeds and when someone, for whatever reason, may want to study or worship in the shrine, it will be accessible once the weeds are cleared. Just for emphasis, I reiterate that burning the bible is counterproductive and shouldn't be supported as well. Any objective mind would know that a legal means (arresting the pastor) would have sent a stronger message.

Let Christians face their contemporary realities of terrorism and systematic cleansing rather than pay attention to traditional worshippers and their shrines. If the same energy which pastors put in burning shrines and "casting demons" is put into helping Christians at this time of persecution and slaughter, it would go a long way, at least to give hope to people. If the pastors and prophets who catch witches and wizards, break yokes of poverty, collect fat tithes and offerings, stay in mansions and fly private jets, etc, transfer their attention to the plights of Christians being persecuted daily by herdsmen, it would go a long way. If radicalism and terrorism has come to stay, defensive Christianity must evolve to match it.





President Xi Jinping knows Christianity is the Church of Rome. He wants his people to be free of Western domination, and if the Africans would wake up and realized Christianity brings sodomites and pedophiles into your God given right to practice religion, you would reexamine these greedy pastors and pedophile Catholics.

There has never been a human being to walk the Earth by the name of Jesus Christ. Not ever!

Sango, King of Kings was real, Obatala was real, Katonda was real, Musa Mansa the Fulani Emperor was real, Queen Sheba was real, Nimrod was real, and all the great legends and Gods of Africa were real human being that walked this Earth. Caucasian religion and history is made up because they have a short history. grin Too short to have had a great civilization in ancient times. Too short. No proof that they had any writings, alphabets, societies, government and what greatness makes a people have the claim of divinity to have produced such a heavenly prophet.

Most Muslims became Muslims because of Musa Mansa, the great Emperor of Mali, the King of Gold. Musa means My Lord, it is the Arabic name of Moses. Musa Mansa delivered alot of people to Islam due to his generosity with gold. On his pilgrimage to Mecca Musa Mansa passed out gold to poor people along the way, sparking businesses and trade. Musa Mansa had with him over 180, 000 followers, 72,000 pounds in gold! Islam when understood from its African spiritual traditions is a very beautiful faith that brings peace and helps fight dark evil magick. There is only one God and that is the same what Ifa teaches and Early African Christian faith. To be fair only. There has never been a human being walk the Earth by the name of Jesus Christ.




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