If The Devil could betray God while they are both in the so called 'perfect heaven' how sure are we that after the trumpet another angel/human will not betray God? or what measures has he put in place to avoid this?

What will cause the endless human happiness? are we going to loose our ability to feel pain? if not cant a glass cup ever fall from table, shatter and slightly injure one of the saints?

Will human there must have pass through planet earth?

Most importantly: will our free-will be striped off us, if not can we in our self-will act contrary to God, can we think an Angel/fellow heaven member can improve on themselves

if not ain't we just gonna be like a robot obeying every whimp, whishes and command of God without any input of our own hence no chance of making mistake.
Guess that what God wanted by forbidding eating of the 'Apple'

in fact what are we going to heaven to do

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oluwaseyi000:
If The Devil could betray God while they are both in the so called 'perfect heaven' how sure are we that after the trumpet another angel/human will not betray God? or what measures has he put in place to avoid this?

What will cause the endless human happiness? are we going to loose our ability to feel pain? if not cant a glass cup ever fall from table, shatter and slightly injure one of the saints?

Will human there must have pass through planet earth?

Most importantly: will our free-will be striped off us, if not can we in our self-will act contrary to God, can we think an Angel/fellow heaven member can improve on themselves

if not ain't we just gonna be like a robot obeying every whimp, whishes and command of God without any input of our own hence no chance of making mistake.
Guess that what God wanted by forbidding eating of the 'Apple'

in fact what are we going to heaven togo and do

If you are born again, you are already in heaven. The world is waiting for you to manifest it

soulpeppersoup:


If you are born again, you are already in heaven. The world is waiting for you to manifest it

that means as born again, going to heaven is just a duplication?

oluwaseyi000:


that means as born again, going to heaven is just a duplication?

Going to heaven is like a diplomat retiring to his home country

soulpeppersoup:


Going to heaven is like a diplomat retiring to his home country

since heaven and earth is same things to Christians; why do Christians (like other people) face so many difficulties on earth Instead of heavenly bliss

oluwaseyi000:

since heaven and earth is same things to Christians; why do Christians (like other people) face so many difficulties on earth Instead of heavenly bliss

Because they lack understanding of who they are, where they have been taken to at new birth and how to manifest their new home on earth.

No matter how bad the economy of Nigeria get, the ambassador of America to Nigeria cannot be affected. His in Nigeria to see how America can help Nigeria not Nigeria help him.

oluwaseyi000:
If The Devil could betray God while they are both in the so called 'perfect heaven' how sure are we that after the trumpet another angel/human will not betray God? or what measures has he put in place to avoid this?

What will cause the endless human happiness? are we going to loose our ability to feel pain? if not cant a glass cup ever fall from table, shatter and slightly injure one of the saints?

Will human there must have pass through planet earth?

Most importantly: will our free-will be striped off us, if not can we in our self-will act contrary to God, can we think an Angel/fellow heaven member can improve on themselves

if not ain't we just gonna be like a robot obeying every whimp, whishes and command of God without any input of our own hence no chance of making mistake.
Guess that what God wanted by forbidding eating of the 'Apple'

in fact what are we going to heaven to do

Heaven and hell are different levels of the spiritual world, and are physically manifested on earth.
In Heaven there is freewill.
What are we going to Heaven to do? To be one with God.

oluwaseyi000:
If The Devil could betray God while they are both in the so called 'perfect heaven' how sure are we that after the trumpet another angel/human will not betray God? or what measures has he put in place to avoid this?

What will cause the endless human happiness? are we going to loose our ability to feel pain? if not cant a glass cup ever fall from table, shatter and slightly injure one of the saints?

Will human there must have pass through planet earth?

Most importantly: will our free-will be striped off us, if not can we in our self-will act contrary to God, can we think an Angel/fellow heaven member can improve on themselves

if not ain't we just gonna be like a robot obeying every whimp, whishes and command of God without any input of our own hence no chance of making mistake.
Guess that what God wanted by forbidding eating of the 'Apple'

in fact what are we going to heaven to do

You don't lose your self will.

The weapons of the earth has no effect on spirit being. Only spiritual weapons that can harm spirits.

soulpeppersoup:


Because they lack understanding of who they are, where they have been taken to at new birth and how to manifest their new home on earth.

No matter how bad the economy of Nigeria get, the ambassador of America to Nigeria cannot be affected. His in Nigeria to see how America can help Nigeria not Nigeria help him.

soulpeppersoup Are you a Christ Embassy member?

DavidTheGeek:


soulpeppersoup Are you a Christ Embassy member?

No

soulpeppersoup:
No

Okay. Asked cuz the analogy of an ambassador not being affected by a country's economy is something i heard in Christ Embassy.

DavidTheGeek:

Okay. Asked cuz the analogy of an ambassador not being affected by a country's economy is something i heard in Christ Embassy.

Its a biblical truth. Once born again, you become a heaven citizen though on earth. On earth, you are representing heaven and as such should manifest heaven to everyone around you. When you manifest heaven, you are the light of the world. If you don't manifest heaven, though a light but you are covered.

soulpeppersoup:
Its a biblical truth. Once born again, you become a heaven citizen though on earth. On earth, you are representing heaven and as such should manifest heaven to everyone around you. When you manifest heaven, you are the light of the world. If you don't manifest heaven, though a light but you are covered.

You're correct. I admire your understanding of God's word.

Difficult one for religionists

We will have our self-will in heaven definitely, but this time around it will be with a new software. The software we will be using in heaven, this software does not have a place for evil or wickedness, it will be an upgrade so that we will essentially physically and spiritually lose our ability to sin.

Its like upgrading your computer's operating system and losing some functionalities, or upgrading an app and losing some options but gaining some other massive benefits.

So in heaven ( which will be right here on this earth) our system software or operating system will be upgraded from terrestrial to celestial, so in our body and soul we will no longer be able to sin

MrPresident1:
We will have our self-will in heaven definitely, but this time around it will be with a new software. The software we will be using in heaven, this software does not have a place for evil or wickedness, it will be an upgrade so that we will essentially physically and spiritually lose our ability to sin.

Its like upgrading your computer's operating system and losing some functionalities, or upgrading an app and losing some options but gaining some other massive benefits.

So in heaven ( which will be right here on this earth) our system software or operating system will be upgraded from terrestrial to celestial, so in our body and soul we will no longer be able to sin

Are you not supposed to be in heaven? What are you still doing here? Or did god reject you?

hahn:


Are you not supposed to be in heaven? What are you still doing here? Or did god reject you?

You are in trouble

oluwaseyi000:
If The Devil could betray God while they are both in the so called 'perfect heaven' how sure are we that after the trumpet another angel/human will not betray God? or what measures has he put in place to avoid this?

What will cause the endless human happiness? are we going to loose our ability to feel pain? if not cant a glass cup ever fall from table, shatter and slightly injure one of the saints?

Will human there must have pass through planet earth?

Most importantly: will our free-will be striped off us, if not can we in our self-will act contrary to God, can we think an Angel/fellow heaven member can improve on themselves

if not ain't we just gonna be like a robot obeying every whimp, whishes and command of God without any input of our own hence no chance of making mistake.
Guess that what God wanted by forbidding eating of the 'Apple'

in fact what are we going to heaven to do

Just so many things to say, so many holes, places to puncture, so many questions to ask for which there will never be a logical answer.. ..

I noww know why some of us actually believe in the existence of a God.

But I'll rather face life with my face forward and deal with whatever comes my way than to have faith in an imaginary being.

Gradually, more and more people are beginning to question the existence of God, Devil and the reasoning behind it.. ..and all thanks to improving education.

One day, Christianity will be a tale we tell our kids..

soulpeppersoup:


Because they lack understanding of who they are, where they have been taken to at new birth and how to manifest their new home on earth.

No matter how bad the economy of Nigeria get, the ambassador of America to Nigeria cannot be affected. His in Nigeria to see how America can help Nigeria not Nigeria help him.

Christians say God is the creator of everything....

Including the 'devil'....

kaboninc:


Christians say God is the creator of everything....

Including the 'devil'....

Yes of course, that is an indisputable truth.

soulpeppersoup:


Yes of course, that is an indisputable truth.

That means God created sin.. ..

kaboninc:


That means God created sin.. ..

Devil did. When your son steals are you the thief?

Go and ask the angels in heaven. And please, stop speaking of negative things and continue thinking of the good things you would get in heaven.

soulpeppersoup:


Devil did. When your son steals are you the thief?

Lool.

God created the devil. Devil created sin.

God knows what was, what is and what is to be.

So God created the Devil and gave him the power to create sin.

Lool

@OP,

Heaven was a creation of armed robbers, who wanted other armed robbers to follow them(that is why they emphasize on "streets of gold"................................................The same way that the muslim heaven was created by pedophiles and demented perverts, who wanted other pedophiles and demented perverts to follow them(so they emphasized on 72 virgins with massive water melons on their chests)!!!

In reality, such locations do not exist!!!...............................................Except of course, in the minds of the heavy smokers, the drugged and the delusional!!! These are pictures of religious men in India who also believe in heaven and gods!!! Can you spot the difference between them and Nigerians who believe in gods?