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Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by mulattoclaroo(m): 1:56pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
AreaFada2:the painful part of these who propaganda by the Yorubas is that they know the truth but tribalism, inferiority complex and low self esteem will never allow them say the truth. Amongst the 7 greatest African empires of medieval times, the Oyo empire was not included but the Benin, Axum, Mali, Songhai, Mossi, Ethiopian empires and the kingdom of Ghana were all included. I honestly don't know where these yorubas get their useless facts but I'm very happy that you always show the stupidity of these people here on nairaland. Binis are not in the same class as the yorubas. We are above them. The only thing they have is numbers and if they try any nonsense with us, we would annex the whole of Yoruba land in a jiffy. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 2:17pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
AreaFada2:shooooooooooooooooooT uuuup and keeeep quieeet . You are a generic Liar |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 4:10pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
AreaFada2: A UK trained diplomat who spends his entire time on NL giving credence to a meme as a reputable reference? Your parents or whatever body gave you the scholarship should probably seek a refund immediately. Training in the UK or Timbuktu does not gurantee you are much more learned than the next person and it does not automatically require that we fall in line when you speak. You know nothing about me to have assumed I schooled in Nigeria or not. Besides, the Nigerian university system you labelled with all kinds of adjectives churn out graduate students leading different fields in the USA. In your mind, your most powerful Kingdom (Oyo) will just as a matter of picnic come to Otun in Ekiti to plant trees & demarcate territory. Hahaaha! It shows you only go round quoting mostly ethno-centric books that pander to your ego. I'll wait for you to cite sources stating Oyo & Bini engaged in warfare at Otun and I will post Otun sources stating otherwise. Benin can never want anything from Yoruba land. We made that clear by democratically leaving South West barely 3 years after independence. Because we always knew that the contraption called Nigeria was, is and remains a massive aberration. That is why we never deliberately signed any treaty to cede power to the British or anybody. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Water will gradually find its level. After borrowing our monarchy, art and benefiting from Awolowo's welfarist programs of th 60s? The war the Ijebus fought, important to them for sure and a rare thing, it was of little consequence to the amalgamation of Nigeria. In your parochial view, it is of no consequence to the amalgamation of Nigeria but without Ijejbu uprising being subdued, the penetration into the hinterlands of Yoruba would be difficult and this would affect the process towards and eventual amalgamation - Mr. UK trained former diplomat To the point that even your kinsman Ola Rotimi spurned it and wrote about Ononramwen N'ogbaisi instead. A mere footnote in history is Ijebu fight. People write about what interests them all the time. Ulli Biere was a renowned versatile German scholar who dedicated most of his life writing about Yoruba culture while there was still so much to write about the Germany since pre Holy-Roman/Habsburg empire to post Unification of Germany. Does this make Yoruba greater than Germany? You see why the UK school needs to withdraw her certificate from you asap? We do not even need to attach to former slave diaspora for attention. We never sold ourselves into slavery. Since pre-historica period, powerful nations have sold people into slavery and they have been sold too. Benin not being able to sell anyone into slavery but getting sold by Itsekiri into slavery tells alot about Benin's army. So you really believe Ogedengbe if truly in a position of strength will just be persuaded by begging to attack Benin. Oh boy, your hero Ogedengbe simply chickened out like the cowards that abound in your area when realised the herculean task ahead of him. Forget that thing. Pure bobos. You are getting petty here and starting to get like the igbos when they debate Biafra war (no insult to them). It is on record, the British have records of Ogedengbe's exploits and were aware of his plots to sack Bini. Your Obas appeasement with slaves, beggings etc are on record as well. Nothing you can about The Great Benin Empire. It is part of extra-ordinary human heritage and intelligence in governance, warfare, arts, culture, civilisation, organisation and more thought impossible for a black man. An empire that covered Obalende, Lagos Island, Akoko areas, parts of Delta ans Onitsha is the great Empire? Are you Musiwa or Musiwa's twin? As for our women, in life it is good to know your worth. We already did centuries ago by selling no slaves. If a woman must ply the oldest profession on earth, I hundred times prefer a woman hawking her wares for hard currency in international league than for a plate of Amala & ewedu bought by for her by an agbero. If you must eat frog, eat a fat one with plenty of meat. Even the most successful Nigerian footballers sold their kills in the foreign leagues: Okocha, Kanu, Obafemi Martins, Mikael, Peter Odemwingie, late Keshi & Yekini, etc. If you knew the story behind her situation with Ooni you would hide your head in shame. After child birth, she'll be swept quickly to the side by a Yoruba queen who is already in the pipeline. And wasn't it like 15 or 20 Naira that was paid as her bride price? Bini vajayinas come cheap ? No wonder Oranmiyan knacked one & bailed back to Ife. That Benin was betrayed by the relatives of Afonja, mostly likely behind the back of the Benin Prince that is Olu of Warri, should not surprise anyone. After all they routinely betray themselves. The great Itsekiri conquered Bini in a battle that they went as far as conscripting mercinaries from Lagos & getting arms from Britain for. Serious military historians know Bini the touted Bini military exploits is all jokes. Scholars see through your shenanigans and continuous struggles to put yourselves in the leagues of the great but like a toddler trying to do adult things, they let you slide because it is fun to watch & read the jargons from you lot. Next time the BBC or any other foreign channel is extolling the glorious feats of ancient Benin Empire, you can smash your TV, your gen or set the your house ablaze in fit of jealous rage. If it's a local TV station rush to their studio in anger, randomly pick out any number of them and start biting their nyansh. Whenever BBC, History Channel, Discovery & other TV stations want to extoll Benin art and they begin by telling you how it is an offshoot of Ife art and how Ife art HEAVILY helped & influenced Bini art then well, swallow a bullet or something. You still don't get it that whatever greatness is alloted to Bini, Ife is mentioned first Bini did not achieve the minute greatness it has by standing alone, it depended heavily on Ife/Yoruba But at the end the antics of an inconsequential tribalist will remain a mere comic relief. Says the Bini supremacist 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 4:15pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
mulattoclaroo: I beg you in the name of Osanobua & Ogiso, please list the area Bini empire covered. According to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire At its maximum extent, the empire extended from the western Ibo tribes on the shores of the Niger river, through parts of the southwestern region of Nigeria (much of present-day Ondo State, and the isolated islands (current Lagos Island and Obalende) in the coastal region of present-day Lagos State). Note that the page was clearly written and edited by Bini people. Ondo - Akoko areas. Ibo land - Onitsha area. Lagos - Obalende & Island. Are these all that mae up the 'great enpire'? Like seriously? Please be civil. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 4:55pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
OlaoChi: Read and educate yourself. Internet is very cheap, so engage yourself in some reading exercise 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 4:58pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:Who in the western world know Bini's nitwit pseudo empire? The only thing they were appreciated for was their small neat road network and also because of their great Artwork which were derived from ILE IFE Artwork. Nothing else. Please don't mind those blatant liars... 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 5:01pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317: The emboldened had me like: That there was the reason I asked if you were a christian to which you answered yes. Oduduwa's original source had been a thing of secret since time immemorial and as a result, the traditionalist who are not ife orogin, the christians and muslims have tried to fill the void by concocting different types of theories. The chain from the sky theory, the Mecca theory and the Egypt theory. You applied the latter in your post which to me is unfounded and a wild guess. Ife had 13 communities, some were in the valley while some were up the hill; there were 2 groups of Ife. Oduduwa and his clan were part of those settled on the hill known as Oke Ora. They up the hill had limited access to water and fertile lands for farming that they had to come down the hill to get these needs; it led to life long generational conflict between hil dwellers and the valley settlers. The clash only came to a head during Oduduwa's time. Where Oduduwa's and his generation lived before him is some sort of holy site and its location is obfuscated to prevent people from going there. With the tourism oriented background of the present Ooni he may decide to open it up but I doubt it much because it is the place where every Ooni's coronation starts from. Every Ooni elect goes up the hill, wears certain stuff from that place, comes down the hill into Ife then heads first to Obatala's house. The only persons who have gone there who were not part of the Idio clan (Oduduwa's clan) were Prof Eluyemi Omotoso and his European colleagues who went up there for excavations (of course they had to be initiated into stuff prior). During the excavation, they discovered different artifacts dating further cementing the 350BCE dating other excavations in other places in Ife gave. And the excavated materials also proved that the place was well inhabited and there was a working village system there. So, it is painful to many of us who know where Oduduwa came from but we are bound to keep quiet in the face of infuriating jargons like the Bini history of Oduduwa. What brought Oduduwa & his people down the hill was the need to have share of fertile grounds. This forever reshaped Ife settlement & politics. He managed to command the respect and support of other Ife kings who were under Obatala. He built his place in Ife (now the palace) not too far from Obatala's palace. Then there were two palaces and the same group who would go to greet Oduduwa would go to greet Obatala and vice versa until Obameri decided to crush Obatala's kingship and subjugate him under Oduduwa. He sacked Obatala's palace (now a temple) and made sure he exiled Obatala who was later appeased to return to Ife. Obatala became the spiritual head in Ife and Oduduwa became the political/military head. Ife was practically restructured. The Idio Family in Ife is a conglomerate of those who lived up the hill but came down with Oduduwa and they are settled in Ife somewhere close to the palace. The Ideta family (mine) are Obatala's offsprings, they have massive lands in Ife - Itapa & Mokuro. This civil war led to Ugbo's migration to present day Ondo state. The war also led to Ugbo's attacks on Ife that brought Moremi into the limelight. ----------- I purposely left some sacred terms, places & names out. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 5:06pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:I am odua's lineage. |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by BornStunner1: 5:09pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
opal4real: Dont bother thier brain na 1860 version |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 5:10pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317: Are you from Ife? What is the name of your family compound or streer your compound is or at least your surname? |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by BornStunner1: 5:12pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317: Hahahahahahaha Now it is obvious for everyone to see how DISORGANISED AND FAKE YOUR PEOPLE ARE Eyah ibadan printing press nor dey again sorry you hear nor cry hahahaha |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 5:13pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
AreaFada2: I hail my Ovioba! I've decided to ignore them too. Since Yoruba( a word that came into existence after the Kiriji war) is the center of creation and origin of man. Then make we siddon dey clap for them. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by BornStunner1: 5:14pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
opal4real: Its is Yaariba not Yoruba actually 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by AreaFada2: 5:19pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
mulattoclaroo:That is the truth. These Benin Empire deniers are like anti-semitic holocaust deniers. They are jealous children of hate. They are so pained that they like to paint their poo as gold and others as nothing. But in so doing they expose their deep-seated insecurities in the face of overwhelming facts. When they were not allowed to claim Benin as part of Yorubaland & Benin arts as their, they suddenly went about a hate campaign of empire denial. Suddenly they came with Sungbo Eredo as larger than Benin moats and ramparts. Even the Chinese are still struggling to prove that Chinese wall (a country of around 1.4 billion people) are still struggling to convince the world that their walls are larger than Benin Earth works. By the time Udo town moats and other town walls/moats are fully studied, the Chinese will be no match even. Why Benin gives them so much nightmares & sleepless nights is beyond me. They hype themselves like empty barrels & noise makers. Luckily we understand their nature from history and deal with them with a barge pole. See how they are hyping their VP now. They are carelessly & boastfully exposing their main purpose of hyping/supporting Buhari initially. They were so envious of Jonathan's providence that they impatiently wanted one for themselves too. They cannot even wait for Buhari to answer God's call first. Since only God knows who will go first. Not necessarily by age or obvious health status. The careless empire denier there called Oba an illiterate. I know his former UK university and is by no means a low ranking school. His school mates I know went on to work for some of the biggest multi-nationals worldwide. The Prince himself excelled in business & went on to become Nigerian Ambassador to many countries. I also personally knew some Nigerian ambassadors in Europe (one even was Yoruba, who I will not name for privacy sake) in the 1990s, and none had a better education than the Prince. Ordinarily, I would not mind their envy but lots of sensible silent readers visit Nairaland so records have to be set straight. The most funny thing is when they quote their pioneer empire denier writers mostly from Ibadan Press as authority. I do not know how they expect those to impress even a primary school boy from Benin. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 5:29pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni: This map was there before the Kiriji war
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Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 5:35pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Bini vultures gathering They have been badly bruised and have decided to group up in order to lick each others wounds and pat each other's back I wonder why the source of your monarchy & art will be jealous of you. It is like saying the fathers to all of you are jealous all of you have made more progress than them. I beg you all, all ye best brains from Benin on this thread in the name of Osanobua & Ogiso, please list the area Bini empire covered. According to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire At its maximum extent, the empire extended from the western Ibo tribes on the shores of the Niger river, through parts of the southwestern region of Nigeria (much of present-day Ondo State, and the isolated islands (current Lagos Island and Obalende) in the coastal region of present-day Lagos State). Note that the page was clearly written and edited by Bini people. Ondo - Akoko areas. Ibo land - Onitsha area. Lagos - Obalende & Island. Are these all that made up the 'great empire'? Like seriously? 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 5:39pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
opal4real: This map, to you depicts the powerful empires in W.Africa, correct sir? Sadly, the purpose of the map is/was to depict slave ports and kingdoms controlling the ports. And you can see it says Benin Kingdom, not 1 Like
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Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 5:56pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:On sojourn but I am the Great great great etc son Owa luusi.....Omo omo Omo Ajamaiye(kiriji war) when Ile ife was attacked/ Ekiti Parapo, He went back home to fight... His record is there |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 6:02pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
BornStunner1:what do you know? wallow in shame and swallow the truth..... BornStunner1:what do you know? wallow in shame and swallow the truth..... |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 6:06pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317: Ok bro. I thought you were from Idio house. Modakeke attacked us during Ekiti Parapo war using their bond with Ibadan as a charge. |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 7:35pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
As posted by IamAtribalist Joao de Barros in his accounts wrote of a possible pre-Christian influence in ancient Benin Kingdom:- “Among the many things which the king D. Jodo learnt from the ambassador of the king of Benin and also from Joao Afonso d Aveiro of what they had been told by the inhabitants of these regions was that a Kingdom twenty moons journey away from Benin Kingdom which according to their account and the short journeys they made would be about two hundred and fifty of our leagues (5.556km or 3.456 is a league) there lived the most powerful monarch of these parts who was called “Ogane”. Among the pagan chiefs of the territories of Benin, Ogane was held in as great veneration as is the supreme Pontif with us. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 7:43pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=NIWSBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=joao+afonso+aveiro+on+ife+kingdom+and+benin+kingdom&source=bl&ots=tKvYnv6GBu&sig=eu-h04a57wZSHgSaCEIkTp9rAzk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwissISogpXLAhWmJZoKHTPGAZoQ6AEIRTAH#v=onepage&q=joao%20afonso%20aveiro%20on%20ife%20kingdom%20and%20benin%20kingdom&f=true 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 7:44pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:I know about the story (Aroba) . My great grand father fought against that which was why he went back to fight prince Ajaimaye. from Oriki Ooni, present one, his name is there Owa Luusi That will be easy for you to locate if you go to ILE IFE once in awhile. And his great great grand son was Ajamaiye. His profile will always be there forever. I. wouldn't want to mention another name of his because some people might want to be searching for my identity even if I am not popular O0ni:I know about the story (Aroba ni baba itan) . My great grand father fought against that which was why he went back to fight prince Ajaimaye. He was one the pioneer of egg usage to strike. Then from the Oriki of the present Ooni,his name is there Owa Luusi . You can use that to identify him. That will be easy for you to locate his place if you go to ILE IFE once in awhile. And his great great grand son was Ajamaiye. His profile will always be there forever. I wouldn't want to mention another name of his because some people might want to be searching for my identity even if I am not popular . Pardon me for now. I dish out that name because of your familiarity with ILE IFE and your lineage |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 7:51pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317: I will call my folks to find out more. I am sure he has an interesting history. The emboldened, I heard that a lot. I witnessed one of the wars. While vacationing in Ife with granny, war broke out and we were trapped. Parents freaked out as usual but we were sent back to Lagos after a few weeks. |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 8:00pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:Oh k. You know “Aja"is part of their names...... The name used in reference to former King of ILE IFE was part of his name as well. Let me stop bro. The bad belle peps are out there.... I wanted to send twenty points research on Yoruba finding but will do it another time... 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 8:01pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:Oh k. You know “Aja"is part of their names...... The name used in reference to former King of ILE IFE was part of his name as well. Let me stop bro. The bad belle peps are out there.... I wanted to send twenty points research on Yoruba finding on it semitic Connection but will do it another time... 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 8:09pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317 Wait, Owa Luusi is the same as Owalusin that emigrated from Ife, correct? If that is correct then pardon my ignorance, yes I know of Owalusin (Owa Luusi). I think the Modakeke war during Ekiti parapo was during Ajamaiye's time? Ojaja I, present Ooni's grandfather was the Ooni at this time. Sadly, it was the Ibadan who imposed him on us and well, he didn't sell his loyalty because of that, he didn't hesitate to let the Modakeke know who the boss was. So your grand father was Ajamaiye? You must be a Prince then. Do you ever attend the Owalusin festival in your home town? I guess not, you are a Christian Bro, ypu better come back and hug the system that sustained our fore fathers and leave the christianity that has done us more damage than good. In addition, I think the founder of your town was part of Giesi house. The present Ooni's house; I'm related to the house by blood but a bit distant. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 8:12pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:That is my father..... |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 8:13pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317: I already unravelled it! If I said too much about your ancestry in my post, I can take it down. |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Nobody: 8:16pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
Olu317: Nice. Kaare, omo Owa luusi. I greet you very much my brother. Wow! Since your second hometown (ife is your first home town) is in the eastern parts of Yoruba land then you must have records of Bini activities there then. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 8:22pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:I I salute you with humility my brother. But kindly don't mention the place of our second abode. My home town is forever in my heart and his descendants hearts. Edo came in the ancient and they were killed. Even the Nupes were not spared...The Edo on this platform just run their mouth because they have access to internet and by so doing want to manipulate history. But leave them to their woes and sorrow 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Govt Unveils Statue Of First Crown King Of Lagos, King Ado (photos) by Olu317(m): 8:29pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
O0ni:please please don't go further.... Please I plead again with humility |
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