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Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by cleish(m): 7:13am On Mar 12, 2017
Pastors and Bible scholars in the house, pls explain this Bible verse "Mattew 17 vs 9-13"

9.And as they were coming down the mountain, Jesus commanded them,“Tell no one the vision, until the Son of Man is raised from the dead.”
10.And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?”
11.He answered,“Elijah does come, and he will restore all things.
12.But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.”
13.Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of "John the Baptist".

my questions are
1. where was Elijah before he reincarnated in john the baptist.
2. why was it so.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by psucc(m): 7:43am On Mar 12, 2017
Read the preceding verses and your questions may have been answered there.
Thanks for the curiosity.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by kiddoiLL(m): 8:00am On Mar 12, 2017
Lukw 1:17 "He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,' and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."


If he came in the spirit of Elijah then he's Elijah. and i also it happened that way to fulfilled and see the proper death of Elijah. He killed the prophets of baal .and the bible says whosoever slay with the sword shall die by it. Elijah killed them all with a sword. How did John the baptist died? Beheaded with a sword

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Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by cleish(m): 11:42am On Mar 21, 2017
kiddoiLL:
Lukw 1:17 "He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,' and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."


If he came in the spirit of Elijah then he's Elijah. and i also it happened that way to fulfilled and see the proper death of Elijah. He killed the prophets of baal .and the bible says whosoever slay with the sword shall die by it. Elijah killed them all with a sword. How did John the baptist died? Beheaded with a sword
psucc:
Read the preceding verses and your questions may have been answered there.

Thanks for the curiosity.


thanks for the clarification.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by GodsMopol: 12:36pm On Mar 21, 2017
Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Luke 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth. 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. 1:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Run a comparism in the prophecy and you would notice something similar

Matthew 11:10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by orisa37: 2:20pm On Mar 21, 2017
Elijah did not experience Death. He came back to suffer it. And This qualified him for his appearance at The Transfiguration with Christ and Moses. There Moses, an Expert in Jihadist movement received instructions to come back as Mohammed to lead Islam.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by GodsMopol: 5:36pm On Mar 21, 2017
orisa37:
Elijah did not experience Death. He came back to suffer it. And This qualified him for his appearance at The Transfiguration with Christ and Moses. There Moses, an Expert in Jihadist movement received instructions to come back as Mohammed to lead Islam.

Moses and Elijah both experienced death, John the Baptist came as the Elijah to come, man is primarily a spirit, by way, Moses is no way related to mohammed

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Why talk about body when he can resurrect with the body, resurrection has to do with bodily departure

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Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 5:58pm On Mar 21, 2017
orisa37:
Elijah did not experience Death. He came back to suffer it. And This qualified him for his appearance at The Transfiguration with Christ and Moses. There Moses, an Expert in Jihadist movement received instructions to come back as Mohammed to lead Islam.

11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces. 13 He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;

Sir/Madame,
Elijah has not returned to Earth. Elijah is in Heaven. There are no scriptures that support his having returned to Earth since he was taken.With all due respect you are incorrect about Moses...
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 6:01pm On Mar 21, 2017
GodsMopol:


Moses and Elijah both experienced death, John the Baptist came as the Elijah to come, man is primarily a spirit, by way, Moses is no way related to mohammed

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Why talk about body when he can resurrect with the body, resurrection has to do with bodily departure

Brother, I agree about Moses...but with Elijah is the following:
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces. 13 He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by madegreatbygrace(m): 6:02pm On Mar 21, 2017
Re-incarnation bawo?John the baptist was never an incarnate of Elijah.What then is the meaning/interpretation of Luke 1:17?

It simply means the prophet Elijah and John the Baptist had the same ministry/assignment -to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children.This was the ministry of restoration and preparation.The way Elijah came to prepare,and restore the hearts of israel to God in a period of great moral dacadence and sin,so John the Baptist also came to prepare the hearts of the children of Israel to receive the coming Messiah.

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Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by orisa37: 7:27pm On Mar 21, 2017
You're underrating The Powers of Christ and understating The Records of Him as The Lord God an Saviour of all His Creations.
Learn more about CHRIST and know that Christ is The Boss and Master of Moses and Mohammed on the one hand and of Elijah and John The Baptist on the other hand.
To Christ the four were responsible. Issve(ISA), The Supreme Spirit created them all.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by orisa37: 7:34pm On Mar 21, 2017
Jesus Himself said that Elijah had since returned.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 10:53pm On Mar 21, 2017
orisa37:
Jesus Himself said that Elijah had since returned.

Please provide the scripture reference..
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by twosquare: 11:46pm On Mar 21, 2017
orisa37:
Jesus Himself said that Elijah had since returned.
Actually, it is often misinterpreted by some. Like Mzlady39 rightly said, this is no reincarnation. There is a spirit called the spirit of Elijah, who tutored that prophet to the extent that he skipped death like Enoch. That was no ordinary power and ministry...how many years after Enoch? That same spirit was in charge of John the Baptist, and it was said that of all born of women, there had not risen anyone greater than John...even though he died via beheading, he was greater than other prophets, including Moses...only two were higher than him. So, John had a similar ministry to Elijah, and they were brought up by God under the same angelic tutelage (specific).

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Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 12:25am On Mar 22, 2017
MZLady39:


11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces. 13 He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;

Sir/Madame,
Elijah has not returned to Earth. Elijah is in Heaven. There are no scriptures that support his having returned to Earth since he was taken.With all due respect you are incorrect about Moses...


My Lady

Elijah has come Jesus said so.

Matthew
10.And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?”
11.He answered,“Elijah does come, and he will restore all things.
12.But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.”
13.Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of "John the Baptist".
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 12:43am On Mar 22, 2017
davtosh:



My Lady

Elijah has come Jesus said so.

Matthew
10.And the disciples asked him, “Then why do the scribes say that first Elijah must come?”
11.He answered,“Elijah does come, and he will restore all things.
12.But I tell you that Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they pleased. So also the Son of Man will certainly suffer at their hands.”
13.Then the disciples understood that he was speaking to them of "John the Baptist".

Hi Sir,
Wasn't Elijah "Old" testament...B.C (Before Christ)?
Jesus came & told the disciples in the "New" statement about the prophet of old whose ministry was to prepare people for the coming Messiah.
John the Baptist also had a ministry similar to Elijah...preparing a people for the coming Messiah.
The Lord's message never changes...but is so full of grace.
John the Baptist was not a reincarnation of Elijah.
They were two separate people..living in two different time periods.
Matthew 17: 12, 13
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Tosinex(m): 1:38am On Mar 22, 2017
Na wa for una... Una dey talk of 2000 year's ago story... When we are about to enter into the great tribulation, what of the two prophets that have been charged with the duty to lead the people of God and strike the earth with pestilences, I think how discussion and thinking should be more towards that. And as of John the Baptist and Elijah, John came in the spirit of Elijah doesn't mean he is Elijah, he possess the strength and spirit of Elijah to be able to do the forerunner of christ.

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Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Tosinex(m): 1:45am On Mar 22, 2017
And what about the two prophets that are to be unleashed at the tribulation time... Is John de Beloved among the two.. Revelations 10:11
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by GodsMopol: 8:59am On Mar 22, 2017
MZLady39:


Brother, I agree about Moses...but with Elijah is the following:
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces. 13 He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;

Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Luke 1:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

I rest my case
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 4:22pm On Mar 22, 2017
GodsMopol:


Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Luke 1:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

I rest my case


My brother,
I should've been more specific. I was saying that Elijah hadn't experienced the "normal" death that humans experience. He, along with Enoch was taken up by God.
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by GodsMopol: 5:34pm On Mar 22, 2017
MZLady39:



My brother,
I should've been more specific. I was saying that Elijah hadn't experienced the "normal" death that humans experience. He, along with Enoch was taken up by God.

Ohhhh, sorry about that sha, but I commented in line with the topic, hope you're good
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 5:37pm On Mar 22, 2017
GodsMopol:


Ohhhh, sorry about that sha, but I commented in line with the topic, hope you're good

No problem...I'm doing well..hope the same with you smiley
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by GodsMopol: 5:42pm On Mar 22, 2017
MZLady39:


No problem...I'm doing well..hope the same with you smiley

Just this burden to pray, I took a little walk to get somethings recently and I saw some Alfas like 6 of them in a shop chanting their quran, may God deliver us
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 5:51pm On Mar 22, 2017
GodsMopol:


Just this burden to pray, I took a little walk to get somethings recently and I saw some Alfas like 6 of them in a shop chanting their quran, may God deliver us

Yeah...the burden is strong to pray for this Earth. I totally understand....cause things are getting out of control. Stuff's about to come to a head. The Lord's coming soon...
I didn't know that word "alfa". So was it their shop to be doing that?
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by GodsMopol: 7:39pm On Mar 22, 2017
MZLady39:


Yeah...the burden is strong to pray for this Earth. I totally understand....cause things are getting out of control. Stuff's about to come to a head. The Lord's coming soon...
I didn't know that word "alfa". So was it their shop to be doing that?


sorry, Alfa are this muslim leaders or partitioners, you need to see front page of nl to see what people are saying on this site, this lady talking about how she waste her university days was a waste and it was taken to front page, I pray God opens our eyes and the views are increasing and ladies would want to take after it

You need to see my recent post about intercession, it kept coming
Re: Reincarnation Of Elijah In John The Baptist. by Nobody: 12:57am On Mar 23, 2017
GodsMopol:


sorry, Alfa are this muslim leaders or partitioners, you need to see front page of nl to see what people are saying on this site, this lady talking about how she waste her university days was a waste and it was taken to front page, I pray God opens our eyes and the views are increasing and ladies would want to take after it

You need to see my recent post about intercession, it kept coming

Will look at it...

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