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TULIP by An2elect2(f): 10:49pm On Apr 10, 2017
THE CALVINIST T.U.L.I.P


T – TOTAL DEPRAVITY

That means simply MAN is DEAD. The Bible says that you and I are dead in trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1-6) unless we are born again. DEAD!!! More than that, the man or woman who is dead in sin hates God, and his “carnal mind” is “enmity against God” (Rom. 8:7). His will is stubbornly steeled against God. This Biblical idea changes a lot of modern talk about salvation.

Consider what that means:
1. Can a man do good works then, if he is not a Christian who is born again? No. “Whatsoever is not of faith is sin” (Rom. 14:23).

2. Can a man want to be born again and follow instructions on “how to do it?” No, for that would be like saying that a man in a grave can desire to come out of the grave, or follow instructions on how to be made alive. It would be like trying to lure him out of the grave. “It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing” (John 6:33).

3. Can any man “accept Christ” as his personal Savior, so that he becomes saved after that? Of course not. Accepting Christ is a good work done only by a Christian. Only AFTER God makes a person alive, can he and will he accept Christ. “No man can come unto me, EXCEPT THE FATHER which hath sent me DRAW HIM” (John 6:44).

4. Can you “offer salvation” to anyone? That is surely impossible. One might as well offer food to a dead man than salvation to a dead sinner (Eph.2:1-2).
ONLY GOD CAN MAKE US ALIVE. AND GOD DOES THAT SOVEREIGNLY – WITHOUT OUR AID, WITHOUT OUR ASKING. From beginning to end, “Salvation is of the Lord” (Jonah 2:9). This is the faith that WE PREACH, because it is Biblical, because it is the FAITH of our fathers, which we love, still living in our hearts, and because it gives God all the glory!

NOT MY CHOICE
U – UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION

This means simply: God CHOOSES to give some people eternal life, WITHOUT looking for anything good in them AS A CONDITION for loving and saving them.
Before any man or woman is born — in fact, before the world was made — God decided who would go to heaven and who would not. Before they did good or bad, God chose some to be His people and rejected others.

“CONDITIONAL election” would mean that God chooses to be His those who FIRST LOVE AND CHOOSE HIM. But the Bible says: “You have not chosen me, I have chosen you” John 15:16. (Please also look at Romans 9:11-21.) Acts 13:48 says that “as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.” Only, when we speak this language is the horse placed before the cart.

CONDITIONAL election puts the cart before the horse, because it says that man believes and THEN is ordained to eternal life. Read carefully John 10:26 for another plain “horse before the cart” passage.

Can one imagine what the DENIAL of this doctrine would mean? If we remember that before we are saved, we can DO NOTHING GOOD (John 15:5; Ephesians 2:1-6), the only conclusion is that we could never choose God. And never would. And never would be saved.

But God is sovereign and chooses whom He will choose. And after He chooses us, we choose Him daily. All we are and all we have is given us by God.

Again, this is the faith that we preach, because it is Biblical, because it is the faith of our fathers, living still in our hearts, and because it gives God all the glory!!!!

FOR ALL MEN?
L – LIMITED ATONEMENT

The great gospel message that so many today are urgently carrying to distant lands is that CHRIST MADE ATONEMENT WITH HIS DEATH. But there are two critical points at which this message is so severely distorted that it no longer carries the gospel message.

THE FIRST DISTORTION concerns what Christ’s death DID. The Biblical truth of the ATONEMENT is that His death PAID FOR SINS.
Yet so many today teach that Christ’s death was only an example for us to follow, and if one merely follows His example he will be saved. Or it is taught that Christ’s death did not actually pay for any specific sins, but made it POSSIBLE for all sins to be paid for.
But the Bible says that Christ’s death on the cross actually paid for sins. Acts 20:28 says that God bought the church with His own blood. See also Matthew 26:28, Hebrews 7:26-27.

THE SECOND DISTORTION of this biblical truth is that Christ died for all men. Some teach that Christ made it possible for all men to be saved.

But the questions that must be asked are: “If Christ died for all men, why are not all men saved?” “Cannot God do what He desires to do?” “Is there something defective in Christ’s death?” “Must man desire to be saved first?” But a man who is totally depraved can not will to be saved. He hates God and wants nothing to do with Christ’s death. So it must not be said that Christ died for all men.

The Bible says that Christ laid down His life for His sheep, and only them. John 10:11.

The ATONEMENT is LIMITED to the elect of God. Every sin of every one of Christ’s sheep is paid for. Those sins and those alone have been paid for. That is the only gospel because that is the Bible.

DRAGGED KICKING & SCREAMING TO HEAVEN?
I – IRRESISTIBLE GRACE
The fourth Biblical truth in the five points of Calvinism teaches THAT GOD’S GRACE TO SAVE A PERSON CANNOT BE RESISTED. Grace is God’s FREE AND UNMERITED POWER to save a person from his sins which would otherwise lead us to hell.

Grace brings him to heaven who naturally would end in eternal hell.
That grace is irresistible. That means that if God gives grace to you, there is nothing in the world that you can do to resist it and thwart God’s intention to take you to heaven.

The certainty of salvation for God’s elect is seen in John 6:37 where Jesus says: “All that the Father hath given me shall come to me…” There is no doubt that they will be saved. Verse 44 says that those who come to God come BECAUSE GOD DRAWS THEM. Not our will, but God’s will is first and powerful.

Now, some ridicule this truth of the Bible and say that it makes man go to heaven against his will. “He kicks and screams all the way to heaven.” But that is not how the Bible presents God’s grace. God makes His people “WILLING in the day of His power” Psalm 110:3. For a wonderful illustration of that truth, just consider the converted Apostle Paul. “By the GRACE of God’ he was what he was (I Corinthians 15:10). And immediately after his conversion he said WILLINGLY, “Lord, what wilt thou have me to do?” Acts 9:6. That surely was not against his will.

God’s grace is sweet and irresistible. He makes us love it and want nothing else. He is as irresistible to us as a husband to his newly-wed bride. Come with us and hear God’s wonderful grace proclaimed in Christ any Lord’s Day.

LIVING LIKE THE DEVIL?
P – PRESERVATION OF THE SAINTS

The last of the five points of Calvinism teaches that GOD PRESERVES HIS PEOPLE SO THEY CAN NEVER be lost. To put it simply, it means this: “Once you are saved, you are always saved.”

God’s Word is full of proof for this beautiful truth. And though many deny it, and tell you that you can be lost and saved many, many times, and therefore can never be sure of your salvation, the Bible says otherwise. Talking about His elect sheep, Jesus said: “And I give them eternal life; and they shall NEVER perish, NEITHER SHALL ANY MAN PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND” (John 10:28). See John 6:39, 17:2, 11,12; Romans 8:37-39; II Tim. 1:12; 4:18, etc. etc.

Some object to this doctrine because it supposedly makes men “carnally secure” in their salvation. That is, if I know nothing can make me go to hell once God has saved me, I will “live like the devil.” There have been some who have used this beautiful truth as an excuse to live like the devil. But they are not Christians. Nor do they understand this truth. Because this truth also implies “PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS.”
Those who never fall away are SAINTS.

They are HOLY. And they are given power to live holy lives. They “continue in well-doing.” Anyone who says he can “live like the devil” has not experienced the saving power of Christ and does not know the meaning of Philippians 1:6, “He that hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.” God will continue working good works in us until Christ returns. Don’t think otherwise.

Is there any hope for Christians without this doctrine? We don’t need to be “scared to heaven.” We need comfort. Because we know that if it were up to the Christian to remain saved, he would never be able to do it. You know yourself!!!! There is no power in me apart from God’s grace.

_ Barry Gritters

Re: TULIP by Wilgrea7(m): 7:06am On Apr 11, 2017
nice.... so you're a Calvinist.... you're the first one I'm seeing.... congratulations... It'll be a pleasure having you on nl..... this thread sums up your belief on how Christ saves .... could you give me a list view of your entire beliefs? like on clergy, tithe, holy spirit etc... if its not too much of a burden... thanks
Re: TULIP by An2elect2(f): 9:00am On Apr 11, 2017
Wilgrea7:
nice.... so you're a Calvinist.... you're the first one I'm seeing.... congratulations... It'll be a pleasure having you on nl..... this thread sums up your belief on how Christ saves .... could you give me a list view of your entire beliefs? like on clergy, tithe, holy spirit etc... if its not too much of a burden... thanks
Lol I've never called myself a Calvinist funny enough but I subscribe to these truths ^^^ and believe they are scriptural cos I see them in all pages of my Bible. grin

You can check all my threads and future threads and if possible my posts for my views (not my views tho). For now this. thread is about TULIP.

btw, are you a Calvinist? grin
Re: TULIP by analice107: 12:13pm On Apr 11, 2017
An2elect2:
Lol I've never called myself a Calvinist funny enough but I subscribe to these truths ^^^ and believe they are scriptural cos I see them in all pages of my Bible. grin

You can check all my threads and future threads and if possible my posts for my views (not my views tho). For now this. thread is about TULIP.

btw, are you a Calvinist? grin


I think am a Calvinist naturally because i uphold these teachings too.

When i read the "Sovereignty of God, by Arthur Pink", i was so taken by the truth of the Calvinists teachings. It's so true.
Re: TULIP by An2elect2(f): 12:29pm On Apr 11, 2017
analice107:

I think am a Calvinist naturally because i uphold these teachings too.

When i read the "Sovereignty of God, by Arthur Pink", i was so taken by the truth of the Calvinists teachings. It's so true.
Lol I use to have his sermon audios including the sovereignty of God. They really blessed my soul!

But what do you mean by "Calvinist naturally" You were born like that you mean? grin
Re: TULIP by Wilgrea7(m): 1:26pm On Apr 11, 2017
An2elect2:
Lol I've never called myself a Calvinist funny enough but I subscribe to these truths ^^^ and believe they are scriptural cos I see them in all pages of my Bible. grin

You can check all my threads and future threads and if possible my posts for my views (not my views tho). For now this. thread is about TULIP.

btw, are you a Calvinist? grin



nice views....

no I'm not a Calvinist... I'm a non-denominational Christian

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Re: TULIP by analice107: 7:38pm On Apr 11, 2017
An2elect2:
Lol I use to have his sermon audios including the sovereignty of God. They really blessed my soul!

But what do you mean by "Calvinist naturally" You were born like that you mean? grin
I have a friend who holds opposed views to Calvinists. Going by his objections i saw myself standing or holding the views of the Calvinists, because i see them clearly in the Bible.

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