COULD TERROR WAR BE RESPONSE BY GOP AND ISRAEL AGAINST THREATS TO THEIR GLOBAL PLANS?

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

(STORY CONTINUALLY UPDATING WITH BREAKING NEWS!)

When nothing adds up, its time we starting looking at what we know.  Our recent terrorist, now dubbed "the crotch bomber" is another dupe.  He could have been working for anyone, drugged, brainwashed or simply influenced, maybe by crazy Arabs, maybe by the Mossad, maybe by the CIA.  We only know the game is falling apart.

We do know a couple of things.  Dad, back in Nigeria, ran the national arms industry (DICON) in partnership with Israel, in particular, the Mossad.  He was in daily contact with them.  They run everything in Nigeria, from arms production to counter-terrorism.  Though Islamic, Muttalab was a close associate of Israel.  He has been misrepresented.  His "banking" is a cover.  Next, what do we know about the two Al Qaeda leaders Bush had released, the ones who planned this?

According to ABC news, the Al Qaeda leaders running the insurgency in Yemen were released from Guantanamo, although two of the highest ranking known terrorist there, without trial.

Guantanamo prisoner #333, Muhamad Attik al-Harbi, and prisoner #372, Said Ali Shari, were sent to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 9, 2007, according to the Defense Department log of detainees who were released from American custody.

Both of the former Guantanamo detainees are described as military commanders and appear on a January, 2009 video along with the man described as the top leader of al Qaeda in Yemen, Abu Basir Naser al-Wahishi, formerly Osama bin Laden's personal secretary.

With all the hoopla about trials in New York, not a word is said when top level terrorists are released to Saudi friends of the Bush family who let them go.  We are now fighting these two Bush friends in Yemen.  They are running a major insurgency there.  We have been using Cruise missiles and our jets to attack their bases in the last weeks.

CBS NEWS LEARNS CIA HAD ADVANCE INFORMATION ON DETROIT TERRORIST

CBS News has learned that as early as August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed "The Nigerian," suspected of meeting with "terrorist elements" in Yemen.

Sources tell CBS News "The Nigerian" has now turned out to be Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. But that connection was not made when Abudulmutallab's father went to the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria three months later, on November 19, 2009. It was then he expressed deep concerns to a CIA officer about his son's ties to extremists in Yemen, a hotbed of al Qaeda activity.

THE CIA OFFICIAL STATEMENT

CIA admits broad information during the November interview, information not acted on in any responsible way but failed to understand that the terrorist they were warned of in November was the one they had been tracking since August.

"We learned of him in November, when his father came to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria and sought help in finding him. We did not have his name before then," said Paul Gimigliano, a CIA spokesman. "Also in November, we worked with the embassy to ensure he was in the government's terrorist database - including mention of his possible extremist connections in Yemen. We also forwarded key biographical information about him to the National Counterterrorism Center.

CIA, ISRAEL AND YEMEN

It is claimed by groups claiming to be Al Qaeda in Yemen that the Detroit attack was in retaliation to US attacks on bases in Yemen run by Al Qaeda leaders released by Bush.

The government of Yemen, as reported in the BBC , says that the Al Qaeda terrorists, led by those released by Bush, are really Israeli agents though they have organized attacks against US targets:

Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence. Mr Saleh did not say what evidence had been found to show the group's links with Israel, a regional enemy of Yemen. The arrests were connected with an attack on the US embassy in Sanaa last month which killed at least 18 people, official sources were quoted saying.

"A terrorist cell was arrested and will be referred to the judicial authorities for its links with the Israeli intelligence services," Mr Saleh told a gathering at al-Mukalla University in Hadramawt province. "Details of the trial will be announced later. You will hear about what goes on in the proceedings," he added.

The 17 September attack was the second to target the US embassy since April. Militants detonated car bombs before firing rockets at the heavily fortified building.

Mr Saleh did not identify the suspects, but official sources were quoted saying it was same cell - led by a militant called Abu al-Ghaith al-Yamani - whose arrest was announced a week after the attack.

With continual reports from Pakistan that India and Israel have been involved in terrorst attacks against US supporters there and the recent reports that the Detroit bomber was assisted by an Indian while boarding in Amsterdam and partially confirmed reports that a second bomber, an Indian, was arrested and taken from the plane in Detroit.  MILive broke this story in the US which originated with Reuters:

Reuters reports Dutch military police are investigating claims that an accomplice may have helped Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab board Northwest Flight 253 in Amsterdam on Christmas day without a passport.

Kurt Haskell of Newport, Mich., took to the comments section of this Web site early Saturday to share his story: That he and his wife, Lori, saw a well-dressed man help Abdulmutallab board the flight without a passport under the guise he was a Sudanese refugee. The military police have already said Abdulmutallab did not go through passport control at Schiphol when he arrived from Lagos.

In another interview on Inside Edition, Haskell described what happened:

A passenger has come forward with disturbing new details about the plot to bring down a jet, including the astonishing claim that the accused terrorist was able to board the plane without a passport.

Kurt Haskell showed INSIDE EDITION his boarding pass for Northwest flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit. The lawyer, who lives outside Detroit, was returning home from an African safari when he says he saw the terror suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallabm, and another man, who he thought was Indian, approach the ticket agent.

"Only the Indian man spoke," says Haskell, "And what he said was, 'This man needs to board the plane but he doesn't have a passport.' "

"His clothes were like jeans and a t-shirt or something, he looked kind of thin, like a 16-year-old teenager, and the other man, looked like he was 50 years old, looked like he was a wealthy, Indian man. I just couldn't figure out why they were together," Haskell tells INSIDE EDITION.


An earlier CBS news report today stated:

CBS News has learned the State Department system designed to keep track of active U.S. visas twice failed to reveal Nigerian terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab had been issued an active visa allowing him multiple entries into the United States.

According to a law enforcement source, the first failure came on Nov. 19, 2009, the very same day Abdulmutallab father’s, Dr. Umaru Mutallab, a prominent banking official in Nigeria, expressed deep concern to officials at the U.S. Embassy in Abjua, Nigeria, that his 23-year-old son had fallen under the influence of "religious extremists" in Yemen.

The second failure to flag an active visa belonging to Abdulmuttalab occurred the very next day in Washington, after Mutallab's concerns were forwarded to officials there. It was only after the Christmas Day terror attack in Detroit that U.S. officials learned that Abdulmuttalab had been issued a visa by the U.S. Embassy in London valid from June 16, 2008, through June 12, 2010. ,

Thus, in another set of coincidences, the system put in place after 9/11, meant to prevent the misuse of student visas for terrorist acts, single, Islamic engineering students tied to religious extremists being a risk factor in that area, failed totally.

Picture the November 19 interview.  A poor taxi driver comes to the US embassy:  "My son, he is hanging around with a rough crowd.  He says he wants to blow something up!"

No, wait, that was someone else.  Picture the November 19 interview.  One of the richest people in the world, head of a major bank, cabinet minister, head of the national armaments industry, close associate of the US Ambassador and someone known around the world makes an appointment to come to the US embassy.

He wouldn't have met a clerk.  The US Ambassador himself would have arranged for the highest ranking officer in the embassy hold the interview.  Mr. Muttalab would have been greeted by the ambassador when he came to the embassy.

MUTALLAH MEETS WITH CIA CHIEF OF STATION IN NIGERIA, NOVEMBER 19

We have confirmed that Mutallah met with the CIA chief of station in Nigeria.

Imagine this person of great power and influence, with friends at the highest levels of the CIA and Mossad.  When he came to announce his son may be a terrorist, he was a loving father asking for help?  He would have made this points:

My son is a danger to himself and others, please keep him safe
Do not allow my son to travel to the United States under any imaginable circumstances as he is likely to be involved in acts of terrorism
Please assure me that you will act immediately and contact me as to what measures you have taken
Were any of this true, this is what would have been said.  Were any of what we have been told true, none of what we saw in Detroit could have happened.  What we know is that something very different than this really happened.  Go ahead and Google "muttalab, nigeria, bank, mossad, defense"



Let's look at the Wayne Marsden report on the failures at the airport in Amsterdam along with direct ties between this case and the shoe bomber Richard Reid:


The Mutallab case also resembles that of another
attempted plane bombing, that of the hapless "shoe bomber" Richard
Reid.

It has also been revealed that Mutallab is the son of Alhaji Umaru
Mutallab, the former chairman of First Bank of Nigeria. According to
This Day of Lagos, the elder Mutallab claims he reported the
extremist views of his son to Nigerian security agencies, as well as
to the U.S. embassy in Abuja, yet no attempt was made to prevent the
radically-inclined Nigerian student to board the plane in Schiphol.
The attempted plane bomber was schooled at the British International
School in Lome, Togo and attended college in London and moved to
Egypt and Dubai. The elder Mutallab is a frequent visitor to the
United States and he is married to a Yemeni woman. ,

Marsden points out the well established family ties to Yemen thru his wife.  He further points out how Israel managed to bring the terrorist son of Mutallab through multiple airport security obstacles with the same ease the United States shephered a known terrorist through a visa process.  What we hadn't seen is how much this process had been tested during the "shoe bomber" episode.

For a number of years, passengers at Schiphol flying to the United
States have been subjected to intense grilling by security personnel
linked to an Israeli firm.

US bound passengers at Schiphol are asked a number of personal questions, including where
they have stayed either in the Netherlands or in their country of
origin. Hotel receipts are routinely requested by security personnel
and the addresses of private temporary residences are recorded.
Mutallab boarded a KLM flight in Lagos for Schiphol where he
transited for his onward flight to Detroit on Northwest/Delta.

Six months prior to Reid's near shoe bombing of American Airlines
flight 63 from Paris to Miami in December 2001, while memories of
9/11 were still fresh in everyone's mind, Reid attempted to board an
El Al flight from Schiphol to Tel Aviv.

Reid was taken aside by El Al
security and identified as a terrorist suspect. Reid paid for a
one-way ticket with cash and would not reveal what he planned to do
in Israel.

However, rather than turning Reid into Dutch security for
further action, he was allowed to board the El Al flight by Israel's
Shin Bet security so his movements during his five days in Israel
could be monitored.

Six months later, Reid attempted to ignite his
shoe on the flight from Paris to Miami. Israel had not informed
British, American, or any other security agency of the concerns about
Reid. Reid's aunt, Claudette Lewis who raised Reid in south London,
was quoted as saying she believed her nephew had been "brainwashed."

Reid later said El Al failed to detect that he had explosives in his
shoes on the flight to Tel Aviv, an amazing revelation considering
the Israeli airline's tight security.
,
The links between El Al security and Mossad are extremely close with
abundant cross-pollination of senior personnel back and forth.

The security company that allowed Reid to board American Airlines 63
at Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris was ICTS (International
Consultants on Targeted Security) International. ICTS's senior
management are all ex-Israeli security officials, many of whom worked
for El Al security.

It was ICTS that largely developed the passenger "profiling"
procedures used at Schiphol and other airports around the world
through its subsidiary, ICTS Holland Products BV.

JUST THE FACTS:

[b]Let's review what we know thus far:

Our terrorist traveled to Yemen to meet with terrorist there
The terrorists in Yemen had been in Guantanamo but had been ordered released by the Bush Administration though they were, perhaps the most dangerous detainees held
The government of Yemen tells us that Islamic terrorists there have been arrested who have proven ties to Israeli intelligence
Our terrorists father, though we are told is a retired "Nigerian banker" actually ran their defense industry in close cooperation with Israeli Intelligence (Mossad)
Our terrorist's visa to the US was never with withdrawn, though he was on a "terrorist watchlist"
Our terrorist, though flying from Nigeria, entered the Netherlands without passing thru customs, something impossible to do without assistance from an intelligence agency
Our terrorist, while at the Amsterdam airport, was being assisted by a man appearing to be Indian, who claimed our Nigerian terrorist was a Sudanese refugee with no passport (no passport was used entering the EU, something technically impossible)
However, Dutch authorities, the same ones who confirmed he entered the country with no passport also confirmed he had a valid US visa, though on a terrorist watch list that is shared with Dutch authorities.
Airport security in Amsterdam is contracted to an Israeli controlled company with, not only the most sophisticated technologies, but, in fact, the company that had developed the concept of security profiling.
The parallels between this case and the Richard Reid "shoe bomber" case are much more than admitted.
WHERE THE STORY IS GOING[/b]

We keep going back to 2007.  Why were these terrorists released to Saudi custody?  Why did Saudi Arabia release them soon afterward?  With the 2nd major terrorist front in the world being Yemen and the terrorist operation there under the control of released Bush detainees, there is reason for suspicion.

While we have all of these facts, easily verifiable, we have a much stronger case against the Bush Administration or Israel than Al Qaeda.  There is no real evidence that Al Qaeda would be operating in Yemen without American or Saudi help and even, as stated by the Government of Yemen, direct material assistance from Israel.

Why would such a thing be done, something against all reason unless terrorism itself was part of a larger regional plan and a "war on terror" was only a ruse.

When Pakistan comes to us and says that Israel and India are involved in terrorism there and we ignore it, is it because it isn't credible or because the US government has been involved, as we seem to be involved in Yemen?

WHY THE STORY HAS TO GRIND TO A STOP OR, "THE WHOLE DIRTY MESS WILL COLLAPSE"

Why are we satisfied to take one person into custody, one person who ties to so many irregularities and ask nothing else?

As with 9/11 and so many other seeminly impossible times when so many things go wrong that only great power and the cooperation of many agencies in many countries could make it possible, why do we ask nothing.

We have a major investigation in Nigeria, not only of the father and his connections to Israel but our own embassy and why they left this visa alone when the individual was a known terrorist.

How could this terrorist travel to Yemen to meet with an organization run by former detainees released by Bush and his Saudi friends, former detainees that Yemen claims are working for israel?  How could he do this and be allowed to return to Nigeria, a country whose intelligence services are tied to Israel and trained by Israel.  They would have known in a second.

How did this terrorist enter the Netherlands without showing a passport?  Try it.  You will meet lots of Dutch people who will keep you in a small room for hours, days even.  It is absolutely impossible.

People are picked up in the EU while in passport control for non-payment of child support.  I am being told they can't find a terrorist?

We haven't begun to discover how he got past security equipment and screening.  It isn't like he isn't the highest profile potential terrorist who has entered Nigeria in decades.  He is Islamic, young and traveling alone.  Ask any young Islamic traveler how many times they have been searched.

Is is on a terrorist watchlist.  This is like the "no fly list" on steroids.  You aren't just denied flight, you are put under immediate surveillance.

If he had shown his passport, it would have shown him entering Yemen, a known terrorist training ground.  This would have stopped him also.

With the Bush administration releasing terrorist leaders and shepherding them back into their former profession, with our embassy, State Department, Homeland Security and every other organization we spent so many billions of dollars to "coordinate" all failing, is there, just perhaps, a minor sign of conspiracy?

I would call President Obama to account for failures to discover what appears to be a conspiracy of his predecessor but, as the GOP blogs that fill the internet are working overtime to obscure the facts and place the blame on Obama alone, there could be no greater proof of non-involvement.

Frankly, if the Obama administration was involved with Bush, as it seems they are, then the Bush/Cheney "disinformation" attack dogs would be leashed.  They are not.  Thus, Bush and Cheney should be targeted for investigation.

Veterans Today Senior Editor Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran and regular contributor on policial and social issues.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9951

This might actually make sense. . .
u guys ask yourself,who would benefit if the terrorist act had worked?

israel and the republicans of course. . . .for israel it would mean a more hardline U.S war on terror
and perhaps obama cannot then afford to be seen as weak with regards to iran

for the republicans it would be a chance to portray obama as incapable of defending the nation
and a chance to get back to power in 2010. . .

one thing that always bothered me about abdulmutallabs case is his travel to yemen. .
trust me if u travelled to yemen,with an islamic name like that and show your passport
u will be pulled aside for more questioning and search(because your history of travel will be on it)
especially in amsterdam where the israelis run the security

this seems like some kind of international conspiracy. . . .

This is getting more serious. . .

This is really food for thought. I raised this very issue the day this incident happened and i sang the same song : the whole story doesnt add up i was called a terrorist apologist by El razur, obtiose to facts by pataki. Well, this is a very interesting piece while i am not claiming it is 100% true it is certainly food for thought and adds another dimension to the whole story.

Terrorist blow up a plane mid air - Faruk blew his on landing
Terrorist would have blown it in the toilet - Faruk blew his on sit with everyone seeing him (some people say it was cos of the fuel tank but there could not have been a guarentee of the sit bearing in mind he checked in 25 mins before depature).

Faruk might have been used without his knowledge and for all i care the explosives might not be what it is claimed to be in the media. Charging him with a max sentence of 20 yrs indicates something fishy. Lesser terrorist crimes in the bush era attracted 100 or more yrs in prison. Richard Reid got 100 plus years. Sheikh oma abdulrahman got 99 years even though he was blind, shikh Ali Tamimi got something similar, Johny walker got like 40 years. All these crimes were lesser crimes.

Let us think, I am not making any assertions but only trying to stimulate our intelligence in looking at this issue deeply

tundewoods:

@ Paddyboi, Lagos boy

U guys have been watching too much TV,so why not get some rest and shut down your PCs.

don't bring another dimension to this already complicated story,

Bro i brought this dimension to it the first day in fact, i did raise a suspision about CIA complicity in this crime. It is complicated but Nigerians desrve to know another dimension to this story.

@ Paddyboi, Lagos boy

U guys have been watching too much TV,so why not get some rest and shut down your PCs.

don't bring another dimension to this already complicated story,

but use your brain man. . . . .the israelis dont trust obama.  .and would love to make him either loose the next election or become considerably weaker that he cannot help but bomb iran or do what the hardline republicans want

the republicans want to desperately get back to power. .

u must admit this terrror incident doesnt make sense. . .with a name like that,dressed the way he was in a white t-shirt,travelling alone one way to the U.S from amsterdam
trust me he had to be pulled aside if he presented his passport and it showed he had been to yemen before. .

also he is supposedly on a watch-list maintained by the CIA and state department. . yet he is able to travel?

one thing u have to know is that ISRAEL is very ruthless when it comes to defending its interests,
they spy on the U.S.A. .

another thing that doesnt add up is the detriot route. . because the detroit area has the largest concentration of muslims in america. .
why would abdulmutallab buy a ticket to detroit,when he has a big chance of killing a lot of muslims that were bound to be present on the plane?
if the israelis planned this,they wouldnt mind wasting muslims . . .

The issue is people fail to use their God given intelligence in issues like this. Their emotions overide them and they make knee jerk comments. The scream concpiracy theories and fail to look at the loop holes in the official media.

In my opinion Obama doesnt know jack shit about this, but the Mossad want to bring him down at all cost and the republicans will do all they can as well. There are several rich northen nigerians with strong links to the mossad like IBB, General Gusau and a few others. the run arms deal and several other things. I remember Abachas strike force were trained in isreal as well.

In my opinion Obama doesnt know jack poo about this

u can say that again obama is basically clueless on this one. . .

another thing obamas popularity in israel is around 5%. . . .yes thats right,they dont trust him

they think he is too soft on iran,and the israelis cannot handle iran alone

they need the u.s to help take out those iranian nuclear sites

i say before the end of this yr,we will see some kind of action in iran

as time is running out for the israelis. . .

For a number of years, passengers at Schiphol flying to the United
States have been subjected to intense grilling by security personnel
linked to an Israeli firm.

TRUE [/B]

US bound passengers at Schiphol are asked a number of personal questions, including where
they have stayed either in the Netherlands or in their country of origin

[b]TRUE

Airport security in Amsterdam is contracted to an Israeli controlled company

NOT SURE, BUT HIGHLY PROBABLE

with, not only the most sophisticated technologies, but, in fact, the company that had developed the concept of security profiling.

TRUE

I have had a stop-over in Amsterdam from Nigeria to US and picked up a connecting flight from Schiphol airport and I can confirm that I was grilled by the security personnel, even with US passport.

paddyboi:

u can say that again obama is basically clueless on this one. . .

another thing obamas popularity in israel is around 5%. . . .yes thats right,they dont trust him

they think he is too soft on iran,and the israelis cannot handle iran alone

they need the u.s to help take out those iranian nuclear sites

i say before the end of this yr,we will see some kind of action in iran

as time is running out for the israelis. . .

You are absolutely right, the most popular man in the world but is inpopular in three places for 2 different reasons.

Afghanistan for obvious reasons
Pakistan for drone attacks
Israel (5% approval) for not attacking Iran.

Obama will be the greatest fool if he attacks Iran , with aall the US bases within Irans reach. Israel doesnt care abt US interest but only about their selfish interest.

@lagosboy
na true you talk SHIN BET and MOSSAD (israeli equevallent of our SSS and NIA) are wrecking havoc in this world, they are experts at conspiracy.

definitely a food for thought.

heres a quote from a website discussing this article. . . .

"Where is the video footage of the underwear bomber at the gate? Anyone who has traveled internationally knows that you must once again show your passport at the gate. There are stories that he did not show a passport. End the discrepency and SHOW THE VIDEO.  Several months ago went to India and had to show my passport 4 times in Delhi to board the plane to the USA.

Having used Schiphol numerous times to exit Europe on route to the USA, I know there are cameras all over the place. (I must also add, I always felt very safe in Schiphol ). How was he not on the no fly list? Something is not adding up here and showing the video footage of the underwear bomber at the gate/ boarding, would be a first step in clearing up some of this confusion."

why is there no video of this dude in amsterdam? both at the gate,and at the main security further down?

Another thing is there was a report about somebody wanting a residence visa in malaysia , but was refused because he was on US watch list and the malaysian intelligence had been watching him since he entered malaysia although the dude was innocent. Now tell me if such a country could act on US watch list , how on earth would his name not be flagged at schipol despite all the intelligence CIA recieved.

Nigerians let us use our brains!!!

I doubt all these conspiracy theories.

Are you saying osama & the Israelis are now friends or what?

Farouk was fighting for his God ,& i doubt his father would deliberately sacrifice his son.

I doubt all these conspiracy theories.

Are you saying osama & the Israelis are now friends or what?

Farouk was fighting for his God ,& i doubt his father would deliberately sacrifice his son.

we are saying israeli intelligience might have known about this plan and facilitated it. .they might have even planned it all in the first place. . .

remember lee harvey oswald that killed JFK. . .well he also thought he was fighting some kind of righteous cause
not knowing he was only a pawn

if a whole USA president can be assasinated,how much less some faceless ppl on a plane,and a clueless nigerian wanabee jihadist

there are lot of reasons to suspect the American government of foul play!

for how long had the chap farouk stayed in yemen to have access to the high ranking members of al-qaeda?
How could they trust him?
how did he move the 'weapons' from yemen through all the countries before he finaly made it to detroit?
Why did mutallab sr suspect foul play on the part of his son such that he could only report him to US embassy! why not other embasssies? why not any security outfit in nigeria?
Why did US embassy still give him visa despite previous warning?
why did farook wait until the plane was approaching landing in the US territory before he tried to detonate the 'crackers'?
, how come he sustained injury and yet the 'weapon' did not fully detonate?

why did they say that he was 23 years old? A video (titled: suspect hometown stunned) report on
CNN website:http://edition.cnn.com/video/  (pause on time 55s) showed on his primary school certificate that he was born in april 1988 (meaning he was 21 as at the time of his crime). why is this in contradiction to his travelling documents through which they got his supposed age? Dont nigerian reduce their age (if they want to lie) instead of inflating it?

Why are the informations simply not adding up? Why?!!!!

@ poster.

Are you an apologist for the failed terrorist Mutallab or what exactly is your point ?

there are lot of reasons to suspect the American government of foul play!

for how long had the chap farouk stayed in yemen to have access to the high ranking members of al-qaeda?
How could they trust him?
how did he move the 'weapons' from yemen through all the countries before he finaly made it to detroit?
Why did mutallab sr suspect foul play on the part of his son such that he could only report him to US embassy! why not other embasssies? why not any security outfit in nigeria?
Why did US embassy still give him visa despite previous warning?
why did farook wait until the plane was approaching landing in the US territory before he tried to detonate the 'crackers'?
,  how come he sustained injury and yet the 'weapon' did not fully detonate?

why did they say that he was 23 years old? A video (titled: suspect hometown stunned) report on
CNN website:http://edition.cnn.com/video/  (pause on time 55s) showed on his primary school certificate that he was born in april 1988 (meaning he was 21 as at the time of his crime). why is this in contradiction to his travelling documents through which they got his supposed age? Dont nigerian reduce their age (if they want to lie) instead of inflating it?

Why are the informations simply not adding up? Why?!!!!

the way the guy just breezed through all kind of checkpoints is the most astonishing
almost as if he was being aided by powers above
who flys into detroit in december dressed in a white t-shirt with no coat?
come on men. . .detroit is one of the coldest places in america especially in december. . .

the dude abdulmutallab just stuck out like a sore thumb,and yet he breezed through like nothing was wrong

is he also called 'ahmed' because the link i posted earlier showed the name on the certificate as ahmed. And parent's name is stil mutallab!

This is extremely hilarious. Just bamboozle Nigerians with words and they start to believe anything. And when you appeal to people's desperate desires to be let in on a grand conspiracy, then they are willing to reject any warning messages their brains may be sending to them.

The writers story is so full of holes, it's amusing to see all you dolts swallowing it up. So eager are you louts to believe any story that points the finger at the US or Israel that you cannot see that

1. The writer is 100% wrong when he says that Mutallab's name was placed on a no-fly list
2. That Mutallab's dad runs DICON. And with help from the Mossad too!
3. That Mutallab boarded without a passport. Really i cannot understand why this retarded 'testimony' is being bandied about. How does someone travel without a passport? And why would any serious minded bomber want to take that sort of risk?

The whole article is full of conjured 'facts' and distorted truths, with downright laughable assumptions. I laughed hard when the writer was musing openly at the implausibility of AL Qaeda setting up shop in Yemen. And why would the US ambassador meet with Mutallab Snr, just because he's a rich and influential man. Even if that was remotely possible, why would the CIA station chief meet with the fellow?

The Key question is, why would the CIA engineer a plot to blow up an American airliner even though the success or failure of that plot would mean a serious condemnation for the CIA's effectiveness in combating terror?

Conspiracy theorists suffer from a mental illness, that's for sure.

kuramo:

@ poster.

Are you an apologist for the failed terrorist Mutallab or what exactly is your point ?

Naw, just intellectually challenged. These people need to be dragged, kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
Thank God we'll all live to see this Mutallab bastard punished for his heinous attempt to kill 289 people.
Knowing these softie americans he'll probably escape the death penalty and get life in jail. At least that'll give the cowardly dog a chance to ruminate over his life.

Bishopking:

there are lot of reasons to suspect the American government of foul play!

for how long had the chap farouk stayed in yemen to have access to the high ranking members of al-qaeda?
How could they trust him?
how did he move the 'weapons' from yemen through all the countries before he finaly made it to detroit?
Why did mutallab sr suspect foul play on the part of his son such that he could only report him to US embassy! why not other embasssies? why not any security outfit in nigeria?
Why did US embassy still give him visa despite previous warning?
why did farook wait until the plane was approaching landing in the US territory before he tried to detonate the 'crackers'?
, how come he sustained injury and yet the 'weapon' did not fully detonate?

why did they say that he was 23 years old? A video (titled: suspect hometown stunned) report on
CNN website:http://edition.cnn.com/video/  (pause on time 55s) showed on his primary school certificate that he was born in april 1988 (meaning he was 21 as at the time of his crime). why is this in contradiction to his travelling documents through which they got his supposed age? Dont nigerian reduce their age (if they want to lie) instead of inflating it?

Why are the informations simply not adding up? Why?!!!!

I saw the interview with his pry school teacher he  was born in 1986,this is all over the internet. he got the visa in 2008 (2 years multiple) and he had travelled to the US previously on that visa for a conference in Houston. Get your facts right !

paddyboi:

we are saying israeli intelligience might have known about this plan and facilitated it. .they might have even planned it all in the first place. . .

remember lee harvey oswald that killed JFK. . .well he also thought he was fighting some kind of righteous cause
not knowing he was only a pawn

if a whole USA president can be assasinated,how much less some faceless ppl on a plane,and a clueless nigerian wanabee jihadist

If indeed,Israel was so powerful,they should have influenced the US presidential election and ensured McCain not Obama won the election. One thing people don't realise is that the Israeli society itself is divided between liberals,moderates and extreme-right wing. The labour & Kadima(Tzipi Livni) parties are made up of dovish leftist & moderates,while the current PM tends to the right. Put the almost 20% of Israeli population made up of arabs and you can understand you are not looking at an exactly homogenous citizenry.

Yes,you will have hawkish people within any society,but that they would deliberately allow a terrorist on a plane is being rather disingenious.

The more plausible explanation is that the airport security was overwhelmed by holiday travellers and they missed the point.

This is extremely hilarious. Just bamboozle Nigerians with words and they start to believe anything. And when you appeal to people's desperate desires to be let in on a grand conspiracy, then they are willing to reject any warning messages their brains may be sending to them.

The writers story is so full of holes, it's amusing to see all you dolts swallowing it up. So eager are you louts to believe any story that points the finger at the US or Israel that you cannot see that

1. The writer is 100% wrong when he says that Mutallab's name was placed on a no-fly list
2. That Mutallab's dad runs DICON. And with help from the Mossad too!
3. That Mutallab boarded without a passport. Really i cannot understand why this retarded 'testimony' is being bandied about. How does someone travel without a passport? And why would any serious minded bomber want to take that sort of risk?

The whole article is full of conjured 'facts' and distorted truths, with downright laughable assumptions. I laughed hard when the writer was musing openly at the implausibility of AL Qaeda setting up shop in Yemen. And why would the US ambassador meet with Mutallab Snr, just because he's a rich and influential man. Even if that was remotely possible, why would the CIA station chief meet with the fellow?

The Key question is, why would the CIA engineer a plot to blow up an American airliner even though the success or failure of that plot would mean a serious condemnation for the CIA's effectiveness in combating terror?

Conspiracy theorists suffer from a mental illness, that's for sure.

below is muttallabs dad bio. . . .

Mutallab, an accomplished banker
WRITTEN BY IDRIS AHMED
SUNDAY, 27 DECEMBER 2009 00:28
Veteran Chairman of the Board of First Bank Plc Alhaji Umaru Abdul Mutallab formally retired from the position on December 13, 2009 after serving on the Board for thirteen years.
His voluntary retirement was announced at the Board meeting of the bank in Lagos.

He clocked the age of 70 years on December 15. He was born in 1939. First Bank was yet to announce a successor.

Mutallab was appointed to the Board of First Bank in 1996 and became its Chairman in 1999. He attended Barewa College, Zaria, Achimota College, Accra, Ghana and the South West London College, London.

He started his working career in 1965 as a Management Accountant with Fuller Jenks Beecroft & Co in London.

He also served as Chief Accountant/Acting General Manager, Defence Industries Corporation in Kaduna. He was also the Financial Controller of the company.

He rose to become the General Manager, New Nigeria Development Company Limited (NNDC) from 1968 to 1975. In 1975, he was appointed as Federal Commissioner (i.e. Minister) for Economic Development & Reconstruction and was re-assigned to the Federal Ministry of Cooperatives & Supply in 1976.

He was a member, Federal Executive Council from 1976 to 1978. He left to serve as Executive Vice Chairman/Managing Director, United Bank for Africa (UBA) up till 1988.

Mutallab is a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered and Certified Accountants (FCCA), Fellow Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria (FCA), Fellow Institute of the International Bankers Association of the United States (FIBA) and Fellow Institute of Bankers of Nigeria.

He holds the Nigeria National Honour of the Commander of the Order of the Niger (CON) and the Italian National Honour of Commander of the Order of Merit. He was awarded a Honourary Doctorate Degree by the Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife.

Mutallab also served on the boards of several companies such as Arewa Textiles Limited, NEPA, NACB, NCC, Nigeria Agip Oil, and the Cement Company of Northern Nigeria [CCNN].

He is currently Chairman of several companies, including Impresit Bakolori Plc, Incar Nigeria Plc and Spring Waters Nigeria Limited (SWAN). He is also Chairman, Business Support Group of the Vision 202020.

http://www.sunday.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2390:mutallab-an-accomplished-banker&catid=41:latest-news&Itemid=26

one thing u gotta know is that israeli intelligience is very active in nigeria. . .right from the 80s with IBB, and up to OBJ. . .
as for the no-fly list,the writer is saying that if he was on a cia watch list he is even worse than being on a no fly list as he would be on 24hrs surveillance
dont forget the CIA claimed they heard chatter of a nigerian. . .how can that be and they not know it was him. . .they even had a name umar farouk

One question: who read all that ^^^??

@Texapette

The issue here is it appeared he beat the security in amsterdam and did not present his compromised Nigerian passport because of Yemeni visas.
The issue of Mutallab snr having connection with Mossad can never be rejected as quite a few powerful Northern dudes have connection to Mossad and i have mentioned some already.
Acknowledged the poster was wrong on the no fly list thing but faruk was on the larger watch list.

The issue here is not saying the article is 100% right but as an intellectual which i suppose your you should find the missing link in this whole issue interesting. You should try to answer the un answered questions.
Someone says why would the CIA want to bomb a US plane , i say welcome to the world of intelligence. The Mossad could penetrate the CIA and have double agents in there, what we are saying is this could be a well planned Mossad operation with some complicit elements in the CIA. Farouk i believe could have been a naive pawn.

If indeed,Israel was so powerful,they should have influenced the US presidential election and ensured McCain not Obama won the election. One thing people don't realise is that the Israeli society itself is divided between liberals,moderates and extreme-right wing. The labour & Kadima(Tzipi Livni) parties are made up of dovish leftist & moderates,while the current PM tends to the right. Put the almost 20% of Israeli population made up of arabs and you can understand you are not looking at an exactly homogenous citizenry.

Yes,you will have hawkish people within any society,but that they would deliberately allow a terrorist on a plane is being rather disingenious.

The more plausible explanation is that the airport security was overwhelmed by holiday travellers and they missed the point.

dude obamas popularity in israel is 5%. . . .

as for all that talk about israeli society being somewhat liberal. . .i suggest u go read the article below. . .
Who Needs Peace, Love, And Understanding, Anyway?
Why many Israelis now believe that pursuing peace with the Palestinians is passé.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/228840/output/comments

paddyboi:

below is muttallabs dad bio. . . .

Mutallab, an accomplished banker
WRITTEN BY IDRIS AHMED
SUNDAY, 27 DECEMBER 2009 00:28
Veteran Chairman of the Board of First Bank Plc Alhaji Umaru Abdul Mutallab formally retired from the position on December 13, 2009 after serving on the Board for thirteen years.
His voluntary retirement was announced at the Board meeting of the bank in Lagos.

He clocked the age of 70 years on December 15. He was born in 1939. First Bank was yet to announce a successor.

Mutallab was appointed to the Board of First Bank in 1996 and became its Chairman in 1999. He attended Barewa College, Zaria, Achimota College, Accra, Ghana and the South West London College, London.

He started his working career in 1965 as a Management Accountant with Fuller Jenks Beecroft & Co in London.

He also served as Chief Accountant/Acting General Manager, Defence Industries Corporation in Kaduna. He was also the Financial Controller of the company.

He rose to become the General Manager, New Nigeria Development Company Limited (NNDC) from 1968 to 1975. In 1975, he was appointed as Federal Commissioner (i.e. Minister) for Economic Development & Reconstruction and was re-assigned to the Federal Ministry of Cooperatives & Supply in 1976.

He was a member, Federal Executive Council from 1976 to 1978. He left to serve as Executive Vice Chairman/Managing Director, United Bank for Africa (UBA) up till 1988.

Mutallab is a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered and Certified Accountants (FCCA), Fellow Institute of Chartered Accountants of Nigeria (FCA), Fellow Institute of the International Bankers Association of the United States (FIBA) and Fellow Institute of Bankers of Nigeria.

He holds the Nigeria National Honour of the Commander of the Order of the Niger (CON) and the Italian National Honour of Commander of the Order of Merit. He was awarded a Honourary Doctorate Degree by the Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife.

Mutallab also served on the boards of several companies such as Arewa Textiles Limited, NEPA, NACB, NCC, Nigeria Agip Oil, and the Cement Company of Northern Nigeria [CCNN].

He is currently Chairman of several companies, including Impresit Bakolori Plc, Incar Nigeria Plc and Spring Waters Nigeria Limited (SWAN). He is also Chairman, Business Support Group of the Vision 202020.

http://www.sunday.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2390:mutallab-an-accomplished-banker&catid=41:latest-news&Itemid=26

one thing u gotta know is that israeli intelligience is very active in nigeria. . .right from the 80s with IBB, and up to OBJ. . .
as for the no-fly list,the writer is saying that if he was on a cia watch list he is even worse than being on a no fly list as he would be on 24hrs surveillance
dont forget the CIA claimed they heard chatter of a nigerian. . .how can that be and they not know it was him. . .they even had a name umar farouk

Ok,he has CIA,israeli links,SO HE SENT HIS SON TO BE BLOWN UP !!!!!

Jairzinho:

Ok,he has CIA,israeli links,SO HE SENT HIS SON TO BE BLOWN UP !!!!!

No where in the post did the article suggest that, no one here is saying that. All we are trying to do is establishing the connections involved this plot. Looking at the whole issue from a broader spectrum.

Paddyboi thnks 4 given us ds vital information.however,am nt suprised wit d involvement of isreal in all ds conspiracy.history hav shown dat right from d time of moses down to jesus isrealites hav displayed such hypocritic attitudes.it is wordy to note dat d republicans ar dominated by isrealites.to me dis is a conspiracy.anyway wit time we shal knw beta.

paddyboi:

dude obamas popularity in israel is 5%. . . .

Please back this up !