I think there are some puzzle that we need to solve, am actually a Yoruba,and the first black rabbi in the person of Rabbi Arnold Ford Josiah from Barbados claimed that his father his from Yoruba tribe while his mother his from Mende tribe in Sierra Leone, and according to Wikipedia source both Marcus Garvey and Martin Luther King Jr are also of Mende tribe.
Arnold Josiah Ford also went to Ethiopia to crown Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie) as the Emperor of Ethiopia and as a the chosen one for the black race.
According to some heresay Yoruba's share some ancestral DNA with the Oromo,you can verify that through the Oranmiyan Obelisk and the various Oromo Obelisk in Ethiopia and Sudan(Ijebu's claimed that they are from Sudan)
According to Mr Hati from Ethiopia Haile sellasie is majorly of Oromo tribe if am right.
That show's that there are some things that need to be unravel, and what about the bilikisu sugbo eredo in Ijebu.
Its just a puzzle indeed.

MtuMsuper:

You mean Haile Selassie believed in slavery!!!

Yes, it also includes previous rulers!

Pearlyakin:
I think there are some puzzle that we need to solve, am actually a Yoruba,and the first black rabbi in the person of Rabbi Arnold Ford Josiah from Barbados claimed that his father his from Yoruba tribe while his mother his from Mende tribe in Sierra Leone, and according to Wikipedia source both Marcus Garvey and Martin Luther King Jr are also of Mende tribe.
Arnold Josiah Ford also went to Ethiopia to crown Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie) as the Emperor of Ethiopia and as a the chosen one for the black race.
According to some heresay Yoruba's share some ancestral DNA with the Oromo,you can verify that through the Oranmiyan Obelisk and the various Oromo Obelisk in Ethiopia and Sudan(Ijebu's claimed that they are from Sudan)
According to Mr Hati from Ethiopia Haile sellasie is majorly of Oromo tribe if am right.
That show's that there are some things that need to be unravel, and what about the bilikisu sugbo eredo in Ijebu.
Its just a puzzle indeed.

ARNOLD FORD BLUNDERED, when he Crowned Haile Salliesa(Ras Tefari) because Ras isn't SOLOMON'S SON from the information at hand. How can he be called SOMOLON'S LINEAGE?.
Then, on the issue of BILIKISU, she didn't have a child and this make her issue different from QUEEN SHEBA, because, she had a son FOR SOLOMON.

Lastly, OROMO isn't the only group who shared DNA link with Yoruba in East Africa .
Below are the list with whom, some few tribes share DNA traces with YORUBA.

OROMO :0.7353%
TIGRAY : 0.7228%
BANTU KENYA : 0.7630%

Hati13:

IV chatted with another Yoruba Nairalander here. He had told me about some of your culture and it was very interesting. Could you tell me in details?T

Thanks for your interest. There is too much information to know about Yoruba people. I’ll try to summarize as much as possible

Yoruba People are an ethnic group who speak a tonal language and comprise of numerous subgroups of people natively spanning three African Countries. Even though they had a relationship common origin, Yoruba people didn’t refer to themselves as Yoruba until the 1800s, but instead rather by the name of their subgroups such as Ekiti, Ijebu, Oyo… They are found in Western Nigeria, Southern and Central Benin and Central parts of Togo. They are one of the largest tribes in both Nigeria and Benin republic as well as in Africa. Yorubaland is roughly bounded on the North by the Niger river, on the east by the Ose river, the West by the Ogou river in Togo and on the south by the Atlantic. Their Number stands at around 45 million. There are also large diaspora in other parts of Africa, North and South America.
History/Organization/Government


Ile-Ife
You can’t talk about the history of Africa, without mentioning the history of Yoruba people. All Yoruba people claim origin to the ancient city of Ile-Ife located in Osun state. The first king of Ile-Ife was Oduduwa. He’s regarded as the progenitor of the Yoruba race. Oduduwa’s children and decedents established kingdoms across Yorubaland. There was also an expansion of Yoruba people and settlements, especially westward. Yorubas established multiple cities, many of which were walled. Ile-Ife, simply known as Ife was settled at least as far back as the 3rd century BCE based on archeology evidence. The kingdom became very prominent in the Middle Ages around 700-1400 A.D. This era became known as the classical age of Ife. Ile-Ife had a thriving civilization producing some of the finest artworks in the world for the time. Many of these artworks depicts spiritualism and realism which surpassed European realism at the time. The arts were also exceptional in the variety of styles that were utilized such as terracotta, bronze and metal casts, granite, ivory, wood, glass etc. The art of stunned Europeans who first encountered the artwork for the first time who couldn’t believe that such artworks could have been produced by Africans. (One such racist who shared this exact view was Leo Frobenius, a German archeologist who explored Yorubaland and published many pseudo theories and articles in Europe for the explanation of the Ife civilization. He was willing to believe that Ife was the Greek colony of Atlantis, even though the Ife artworks featured African people. His pseudo theories would later be discredited.) Anyways, there are many ancient sites in the city till today and the city is considered as the spiritual homeland for Yoruba people. Other specials features of Ile-Ife are the ancient potsherd-syle paved roads and courtyards of Ife dating to 800 A.D and granite obelisks that are found throughout the city. The tallest and most widely known obelisk is the Oranmiyan staff.
Other Important kingdoms
Yoruba people were extremely organized. There were numerous powerful kingdoms who were founded by other Yoruba groups as well. All the kingdoms also produced exceptional artistry culture center on the beliefs and traditions of Yoruba culture. I can’t really list them all but some include Ekiti (16 kingdoms), Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akure, Ketu, etc. Because of the numerous factions, not all Yoruba were united under a single empire. This was also beneficial because no group could single handedly dominate all Yoruba people. A couple of foreign invaders tried to extent their control over certain subgroups, but were nonetheless met with strong opposition



Oyo Empire (1300 A.D-1896 A.D)
The most centralized state that emerged was the Oyo Empire which was able to unite some Yoruba groups in the west such as Yewa, Egba, Oyo, Ibolo, Igbomina, etc. The first was Oyo-ile (old Oyo), which was sacked by Nupe invaders from the North. Oyo would rebuilt it’s as well as strengthen its military by adopting a strong defensive Calvary army who would later emerge on an imperial expansion westward. Oyo Empire stretched from Nigeria to Ghana across spanning four African countries. In addition to some of the Yoruba groups under Oyo, It also controlled non-Yoruba kingdoms which served as vassal states required to pay tribute to the Alaafin (ruler) of Oyo. An example of this vassal state was a kingdom in modern day Benin republic called Dahomey which was under Oyo’s control for about a century. Oyo had a very organized system of government which many aspects are also universal among all Yoruba. The Oba (king) sits at the top of the throne and he has a 7 councils of Oyo mesi which are also acted by another force, the ogboni. Ogboni are a secreat society comprised of wise elders who held a special spiritual influence and regulate the affairs of the society. You also had a number of chiefs and other political units. The military of Oyo was well organized and it included the eso (city guards), cavalry, infantry which comprised of skilled swordsmen and archers. Oyo also had a number of allied states who also made up Oyo’s military. All empires must fall, and Oyo was not an exception. There were multiple factors that led to its downfall. Oyo partook in the Yoruba civil wars which and there were a number of revolts and uprising against Oyo which all weakened it. Another threat to Oyo was the Jihad of the Sokoto Caliphate led by Fulanis. Fulani had conquered land North of Oyo and captured the frontier town of Ilorin. Long story short, Oyo was able to halt the spread of the Jihad when forces from Ibadan defeated them and push back their advance. Oyo would be later be absorbed by the British bringing a final end to the empire. Even though the empire fell, the throne of the Alaafin and many other Yoruba kings are still preserved till today. In fact all monarchs in Nigeria still serve as the traditional heads of their domain till today, even though they have don’t have any official power. They are ceremonial titles that are testament to history and culture. Their responsibilities is to represent their domain and uphold the ancient cultures and traditions.
There is a lot I didn’t mention, I had to summarize.

Some Ile-Ife Artworks from the Classical Period

Hati13:

Culture/Traditions

Naming
Yoruba people are known for their name giving. A person can have many names. Naming ceremonies (isomoloruko) are performed on the 8th day after the child is born. Names are given based on circumstances like date of birth, positioning of the baby coming from the womb, reincarnation of a family member. Oriki (praise poetry) names are also popular. There are family names rooted in history, as well as family occupation. There are special names for twins and Yoruba do have the highest twin birth of any ethnic group in the world, so there is that
Ifa
Ifa is recognized by Unesco as a World intangible heritage. It’s a very complex system of divination.
Masquerades
Masquerade traditions are intended to keep the spirit of ancestors alive. They are usually very well dressed performing dances. There are many types of masquerade. The gelede masquerade is recognized by Unesco.
Oriki
Oriki can also be ascribed to clans, families and they serve to not only invoke emotions but also tell history. Many Yoruba groups can also have an anthem to accompany this. Orikis have to be memorized and they are usually memorized and sung in melodious tunes.
Greetings
Yorubas have tons of greeting for every aspect of live including daytime, cooking, eating, working, resting. It’s is customary to greet people who are older than you by prostrating (for males) and kneeling (for female). This is considered a sign of respect and for kings, it is mandatory to fully prostrate when you great the king

Music
Yorubas are also known for their rich music traditions and instruments. Afrobeat was pioneered by Fela, a Yoruba man. Yoruba music has influenced world music especially that of South America. Yoruba drummer/griots are well respected and they are called Ayan. It is a family practice and Ayan start playing very young. Yoruba have mastered the act of the talking drum, which are tension drums that are played to mimick the sounds of speech. They are widely used in the kings’ palaces back in ancient times. They are also used in traditional festivities as well. The talking drum have 2 main families which are bata and dundun drum families comprised of multiple sets. There are also other types of drums like gbedu, as well as flutes, agidigbo and saworo bells.
Architecture
Yoruba architecture has many styles. Palaces are built in a courtyard style. Palaces can have many courtyards and rooms. The courtyard can also paved in potsherd style. Carved wooden column posts can also be used. Doors can also be carved in intricate design.
The Sungbo Eredo is a fortress that sorrounds the Ijebu kingdom. It’s the second largest earthworks in the world. They surround the Ijebu kingdom.
The Osun Osogbo grove is UNESCO world heritage site. It is a sacred forest and host a yearly pilgrimage which attracts international attentions from the diaspora communities. It host the original Osogbo settlement including the original palace of the Ataoja and the site is filled with many traditional Yoruba architecture and art works.
Owo palace is considered to be the largest palace in all of Africa. It serves as a museum
Old Oyo National park is a large national park that’s protected for wildlife. It also contains the old Oyo ruins. The park is listed for consideration by UNESCO.
These are just a few, there are tons of sites like this in Yorubaland including palaces, museums, and other ruins.
Clothing
Yorubas have tons of clothing styles that are indigenous to them that are precolonial. The two most common fabric are adire and Aso oke. Adire is a rich indigo fabric from the elu plant. Aso oke is a thicker outfit worn on more special occasions or by the important people. Yoruba clothing include agbada, buba, kembe, sulia, dangodo, gbariye, ibora, kaamu, gbaanu, Sooro, sokoto elemu, iborun, oyala, ipele, oja, gele, among others. Hats like gobi, alagbaa, oribi, tinko, bentigoo, abeti-aja, onide, labankada,etc. Beads, especially red coral beads are commonly worn. Shoes that are beaded in glass beads are worn only by the kings back in the day. In fact the king’s crown and staff would also be beaded.

9jakool:


Thanks for your interest. There is too much information to know about Yoruba people. I’ll try to summarize as much as possible

Yoruba People are an ethnic group who speak a tonal language and comprise of numerous subgroups of people natively spanning three African Countries. Even though they had a relationship common origin, Yoruba people didn’t refer to themselves as Yoruba until the 1800s, but instead rather by the name of their subgroups such as Ekiti, Ijebu, Oyo… They are found in Western Nigeria, Southern and Central Benin and Central parts of Togo. They are one of the largest tribes in both Nigeria and Benin republic as well as in Africa. Yorubaland is roughly bounded on the North by the Niger river, on the east by the Ose river, the West by the Ogou river in Togo and on the south by the Atlantic. Their Number stands at around 45 million. There are also large diaspora in other parts of Africa, North and South America.
History/Organization/Government


Ile-Ife
You can’t talk about the history of Africa, without mentioning the history of Yoruba people. All Yoruba people claim origin to the ancient city of Ile-Ife located in Osun state. The first king of Ile-Ife was Oduduwa. He’s regarded as the progenitor of the Yoruba race. Oduduwa’s children and decedents established kingdoms across Yorubaland. There was also an expansion of Yoruba people and settlements, especially westward. Yorubas established multiple cities, many of which were walled. Ile-Ife, simply known as Ife was settled at least as far back as the 3rd century BCE based on archeology evidence. The kingdom became very prominent in the Middle Ages around 700-1400 A.D. This era became known as the classical age of Ife. Ile-Ife had a thriving civilization producing some of the finest artworks in the world for the time. Many of these artworks depicts spiritualism and realism which surpassed European realism at the time. The arts were also exceptional in the variety of styles that were utilized such as terracotta, bronze and metal casts, granite, ivory, wood, glass etc. The art of stunned Europeans who first encountered the artwork for the first time who couldn’t believe that such artworks could have been produced by Africans. (One such racist who shared this exact view was Leo Frobenius, a German archeologist who explored Yorubaland and published many pseudo theories and articles in Europe for the explanation of the Ife civilization. He was willing to believe that Ife was the Greek colony of Atlantis, even though the Ife artworks featured African people. His pseudo theories would later be discredited.) Anyways, there are many ancient sites in the city till today and the city is considered as the spiritual homeland for Yoruba people. Other specials features of Ile-Ife are the ancient potsherd-syle paved roads and courtyards of Ife dating to 800 A.D and granite obelisks that are found throughout the city. The tallest and most widely known obelisk is the Oranmiyan staff.
Other Important kingdoms
Yoruba people were extremely organized. There were numerous powerful kingdoms who were founded by other Yoruba groups as well. All the kingdoms also produced exceptional artistry culture center on the beliefs and traditions of Yoruba culture. I can’t really list them all but some include Ekiti (16 kingdoms), Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akure, Ketu, etc. Because of the numerous factions, not all Yoruba were united under a single empire. This was also beneficial because no group could single handedly dominate all Yoruba people. A couple of foreign invaders tried to extent their control over certain subgroups, but were nonetheless met with strong opposition



Oyo Empire (1300 A.D-1896 A.D)
The most centralized state that emerged was the Oyo Empire which was able to unite some Yoruba groups in the west such as Yewa, Egba, Oyo, Ibolo, Igbomina, etc. The first was Oyo-ile (old Oyo), which was sacked by Nupe invaders from the North. Oyo would rebuilt it’s as well as strengthen its military by adopting a strong defensive Calvary army who would later emerge on an imperial expansion westward. Oyo Empire stretched from Nigeria to Ghana across spanning four African countries. In addition to some of the Yoruba groups under Oyo, It also controlled non-Yoruba kingdoms which served as vassal states required to pay tribute to the Alaafin (ruler) of Oyo. An example of this vassal state was a kingdom in modern day Benin republic called Dahomey which was under Oyo’s control for about a century. Oyo had a very organized system of government which many aspects are also universal among all Yoruba. The Oba (king) sits at the top of the throne and he has a 7 councils of Oyo mesi which are also acted by another force, the ogboni. Ogboni are a secreat society comprised of wise elders who held a special spiritual influence and regulate the affairs of the society. You also had a number of chiefs and other political units. The military of Oyo was well organized and it included the eso (city guards), cavalry, infantry which comprised of skilled swordsmen and archers. Oyo also had a number of allied states who also made up Oyo’s military. All empires must fall, and Oyo was not an exception. There were multiple factors that led to its downfall. Oyo partook in the Yoruba civil wars which and there were a number of revolts and uprising against Oyo which all weakened it. Another threat to Oyo was the Jihad of the Sokoto Caliphate led by Fulanis. Fulani had conquered land North of Oyo and captured the frontier town of Ilorin. Long story short, Oyo was able to halt the spread of the Jihad when forces from Ibadan defeated them and push back their advance. Oyo would be later be absorbed by the British bringing a final end to the empire. Even though the empire fell, the throne of the Alaafin and many other Yoruba kings are still preserved till today. In fact all monarchs in Nigeria still serve as the traditional heads of their domain till today, even though they have don’t have any official power. They are ceremonial titles that are testament to history and culture. Their responsibilities is to represent their domain and uphold the ancient cultures and traditions.
There is a lot I didn’t mention, I had to summarize.

Some Ile-Ife Artworks from the Classical Period

With due respect to your information which is laudable. I will appreciate, if you drop, this issue about this, 3BC existence because, there's no proof of any YORUBA ANCESTORS existing during that period.
Then, in part of the Art and royal robe, there are inscription of SOLOMON'S KNOT OR ENDLESS KNOT as some will call it.



WELL DONE JOB THOUGH.




CHEERS

9jakool:


Thanks for your interest. There is too much information to know about Yoruba people. I’ll try to summarize as much as possible

Yoruba People are an ethnic group who speak a tonal language and comprise of numerous subgroups of people natively spanning three African Countries. Even though they had a relationship common origin, Yoruba people didn’t refer to themselves as Yoruba until the 1800s, but instead rather by the name of their subgroups such as Ekiti, Ijebu, Oyo… They are found in Western Nigeria, Southern and Central Benin and Central parts of Togo. They are one of the largest tribes in both Nigeria and Benin republic as well as in Africa. Yorubaland is roughly bounded on the North by the Niger river, on the east by the Ose river, the West by the Ogou river in Togo and on the south by the Atlantic. Their Number stands at around 45 million. There are also large diaspora in other parts of Africa, North and South America.
History/Organization/Government


Ile-Ife
You can’t talk about the history of Africa, without mentioning the history of Yoruba people. All Yoruba people claim origin to the ancient city of Ile-Ife located in Osun state. The first king of Ile-Ife was Oduduwa. He’s regarded as the progenitor of the Yoruba race. Oduduwa’s children and decedents established kingdoms across Yorubaland. There was also an expansion of Yoruba people and settlements, especially westward. Yorubas established multiple cities, many of which were walled. Ile-Ife, simply known as Ife was settled at least as far back as the 3rd century BCE based on archeology evidence. The kingdom became very prominent in the Middle Ages around 700-1400 A.D. This era became known as the classical age of Ife. Ile-Ife had a thriving civilization producing some of the finest artworks in the world for the time. Many of these artworks depicts spiritualism and realism which surpassed European realism at the time. The arts were also exceptional in the variety of styles that were utilized such as terracotta, bronze and metal casts, granite, ivory, wood, glass etc. The art of stunned Europeans who first encountered the artwork for the first time who couldn’t believe that such artworks could have been produced by Africans. (One such racist who shared this exact view was Leo Frobenius, a German archeologist who explored Yorubaland and published many pseudo theories and articles in Europe for the explanation of the Ife civilization. He was willing to believe that Ife was the Greek colony of Atlantis, even though the Ife artworks featured African people. His pseudo theories would later be discredited.) Anyways, there are many ancient sites in the city till today and the city is considered as the spiritual homeland for Yoruba people. Other specials features of Ile-Ife are the ancient potsherd-syle paved roads and courtyards of Ife dating to 800 A.D and granite obelisks that are found throughout the city. The tallest and most widely known obelisk is the Oranmiyan staff.
Other Important kingdoms
Yoruba people were extremely organized. There were numerous powerful kingdoms who were founded by other Yoruba groups as well. All the kingdoms also produced exceptional artistry culture center on the beliefs and traditions of Yoruba culture. I can’t really list them all but some include Ekiti (16 kingdoms), Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akure, Ketu, etc. Because of the numerous factions, not all Yoruba were united under a single empire. This was also beneficial because no group could single handedly dominate all Yoruba people. A couple of foreign invaders tried to extent their control over certain subgroups, but were nonetheless met with strong opposition



Oyo Empire (1300 A.D-1896 A.D)
The most centralized state that emerged was the Oyo Empire which was able to unite some Yoruba groups in the west such as Yewa, Egba, Oyo, Ibolo, Igbomina, etc. The first was Oyo-ile (old Oyo), which was sacked by Nupe invaders from the North. Oyo would rebuilt it’s as well as strengthen its military by adopting a strong defensive Calvary army who would later emerge on an imperial expansion westward. Oyo Empire stretched from Nigeria to Ghana across spanning four African countries. In addition to some of the Yoruba groups under Oyo, It also controlled non-Yoruba kingdoms which served as vassal states required to pay tribute to the Alaafin (ruler) of Oyo. An example of this vassal state was a kingdom in modern day Benin republic called Dahomey which was under Oyo’s control for about a century. Oyo had a very organized system of government which many aspects are also universal among all Yoruba. The Oba (king) sits at the top of the throne and he has a 7 councils of Oyo mesi which are also acted by another force, the ogboni. Ogboni are a secreat society comprised of wise elders who held a special spiritual influence and regulate the affairs of the society. You also had a number of chiefs and other political units. The military of Oyo was well organized and it included the eso (city guards), cavalry, infantry which comprised of skilled swordsmen and archers. Oyo also had a number of allied states who also made up Oyo’s military. All empires must fall, and Oyo was not an exception. There were multiple factors that led to its downfall. Oyo partook in the Yoruba civil wars which and there were a number of revolts and uprising against Oyo which all weakened it. Another threat to Oyo was the Jihad of the Sokoto Caliphate led by Fulanis. Fulani had conquered land North of Oyo and captured the frontier town of Ilorin. Long story short, Oyo was able to halt the spread of the Jihad when forces from Ibadan defeated them and push back their advance. Oyo would be later be absorbed by the British bringing a final end to the empire. Even though the empire fell, the throne of the Alaafin and many other Yoruba kings are still preserved till today. In fact all monarchs in Nigeria still serve as the traditional heads of their domain till today, even though they have don’t have any official power. They are ceremonial titles that are testament to history and culture. Their responsibilities is to represent their domain and uphold the ancient cultures and traditions.
There is a lot I didn’t mention, I had to summarize.

Some Ile-Ife Artworks from the Classical Period

Great and nice history/culture!

I think, Europeans doubted the Ife Civilization, because they were jealous of it's achievements. There was a great Ethiopian philosopher named Zera Yacob in 17th century and when Europeans started to know about his philosophy, they said, how can a black person think like this, it's impossible. They are just jealous of African achievements. If you want to know about philosopher Zera Yacob(not emperor Zera Yacob), read this info -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zera_Yacob_(philosopher)

A Yoruba nairalander had told me, Yoruba people descendents may be from Ancient Ethiopia. He didn't say definitely, but it could be. Can you tell me you opinion in this?

Olu317:
ARNOLD FORD BLUNDERED, when he Crowned Haile Salliesa(Ras Tefari) because Ras isn't SOLOMON'S SON from the information at hand. How can he be called SOMOLON'S LINEAGE?.
Then, on the issue of BILIKISU, she didn't have a child and this make her issue different from QUEEN SHEBA, because, she had a son FOR SOLOMON.

Lastly, OROMO isn't the only group who shared DNA link with Yoruba in East Africa .
Below are the list with whom, some few tribes share DNA traces with YORUBA.

OROMO :0.7353%
TIGRAY : 0.7228%
BANTU KENYA : 0.7630%

I don't believe in the legend of Queen of Sheba, but if she was real and had a child named Menelik I from King Solomon, then emperor Haile Selassie was descended of the Solomonic Dynasty through his Amhara background. But the legend is too hard to believe.

If Tigray and Oromo people are too closely related with Yoruba people like you had said, then Amhara people also should to be included.

Hati13:

I don't believe in the legend of Queen of Sheba, but if she was real and had a child named Menelik I from King Solomon, then emperor Haile Selassie was descended of the Solomonic Dynasty through his Amhara background. But the legend is too hard to believe.

If Tigray and Oromo people are too closely related like you had said, then Amhara people also should to be included.

Yoruba is not linked to AMHARA in the DNA, and Like I said, Ras Tefari isn't a SOLOMON'S SON he was linked to any of the Jewish communities that stayed in old Ethiopia before many left. Perhaps you have information that AMHARA are part of the FALASAS. Even ARNOLD FORD's CHILDREN ARE AMONGST THE FALASAS TILL TODAY FROM PART OF MY FINDING. HOWEVER,HOW TRUE THAT'S UNKNOWN? YOU are from Ethiopia, you should have extensive knowledge on it.

Olu317:
Yoruba is not linked to AMHARA in the DNA, and Like I said, Ras Tefari isn't a SOLOMON'S SON because, expect you inform that AMHARA are the FALASAS. Even ARNOLD FORD CHILDREN ARE AMONGST THE FALASAS TILL TODAY FROM PART OF MY FINDING.HOWEVER,HOW TRUE THAT'S UNKNOWN? YOU are from Ethiopia, you should have extensive knowledge on it.

I'm not saying Amharas are Felash! Even most of the so called Felashs aren't original Jews. Most of there descendants were converted Cushitic people. There's is no Jews ethnic to begin with.

I'm saying Haile Sellasie was descended from the "SO CALLED SOLOMONIC DYNASTY". The legend was created by Amhara prince named Yekuno Amlak in the 13th century to depose the Zagwe dynasty and to legitimize himself. It was created for political reason. The legend was just a created story. Their was no such thing as Solomonic linkage, it was just a story.

Hati13:

I'm not saying Amharas are Felash! Even most of the so called Felashs aren't original Jews. Most of there descendants were converted Cushitic/Semitic people. There's is no Jews ethnic to begin with.

I'm saying Haile Sellasie was descended from the "SO CALLED SOLOMONIC DYNASTY". The legend was created by Amhara prince named Yekuno Amlak in the 13th century to depose the Zagwe dynasty and to legitimize himself. It was created for political reason. The legend was just a created story. Their was no such thing as Solomonic linkage, it was just a story.

If SOLOMON'S DYNASTY WAS CREATED for politica in Ethiopia during the past 100s of years, then, Ras Tefari was either ARAB descendants or Berbers . However,recently, the Falasas have been accepted as JEWISH descendants.
Falash Mura is the name given to those of the Beta Israel community in Ethiopia and Eritrea
And they are all referred as Beta ISRAEL.

Olu317:
If SOLOMON'S DYNASTY WAS CREATED for politica in Ethiopia during the past 100s of years, then, Ras Tefari was either ARAB descendants or Berbers . However,recently, the Falasas have been accepted as JEWISH descendants.
Falash Mura is the name given to those of the Beta Israel community in Ethiopia and Eritrea
And they are all referred as Beta ISRAEL.

Ras Tefari wasn't Arab or Berber, he was Oromo/Gurage/Amhara.

Some Beta Israel may be Jews, I don't know, but if you come to northern Ethiopia, you will not differentiate Felashs/Amhara/Tigray.

Hati13:

Ras Tefari wasn't Arab or Berber, he was Oromo/Gurage/Amhara.

Some Beta Israel may be Jews, I don't know, but if you come to northern Ethiopia, you will not differentiate Felashs/Amhara/Tigray.

I got your point there. So, one won't be able to differentiate these people amongst themselves. That is astonishing. I thought some of these Ethiopian Jews ,Falash Mura included still practise a form of Archaic Judaism.

Hati13:

Great and nice history/culture!

I think, Europeans doubted the Ife Civilization, because they were jealous of it's achievements. There was a great Ethiopian philosopher named Zera Yacob in 17th century and when Europeans started to know about his philosophy, they said, how can a black person think like this, it's impossible. They are just jealous of African achievements. If you want to know about philosopher Zera Yacob(not emperor Zera Yacob), read this info -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zera_Yacob_(philosopher)

A Yoruba nairalander had told me, Yoruba people descendents may be from Ancient Ethiopia. He didn't say definitely, but it could be. Can you tell me you opinion in this?

Now it's the "primitive Africans" that are topping the charts in education in their countries.
They referred to Africa as the "last frontier" to justify their conquest, colonialism and exploitations so it won't look bad. You know the last place to be explored, last place to be civilized, the last place to be saved in their messed up heads. I admire Ethiopia's determination and courage during the Italian occupation.


Also, like humans that migrated from Ethiopia as part of the great migration from Ethiopia to the four corners of the world, the ancestors of modern day Yoruba weren't an exception.The oldest hominid fossils were discovered in Ethiopia, so it likely the ancestors of Yoruba people likely migrated westward over thousands of years to their current location in West Africa. After all, according to scientists, Ethiopia is the birthplace of human beings. Yoruba as a people group didn't migrate directly from Ethiopia and it would be ludicrous to suggest so. The Yoruba identity and culture was formed and developed West Africa. Any genetic similarities make sense because I mean we are in Africa so of course there is going to be shared genetic since it's only natural. Ethiopian story is at least better than some stories concocted by some brainwashed people who believe that Yoruba migrated from Mecca or Ancient Egypt or something even though there were fossil and archeological evidence found in Nigeria that shows that there have been people living in Nigeria before those places even existed. You mostly see this among people who want to have relationship with the people from the Bible or Qur'an, they invent myths and pseudo theories to validate their claims. True Yoruba traditions reject all of these myths.

question to you Op..
I've always been interested in the way Ethiopians identify. For example what is the difference between Tigrigna and Biher-Tigrigna. They seem like the same people to me if you ask me.

So what about the Obelisk similarities between the Oranmiyan obelisk and the Ethiopian Obelisk ?
What about Yoruba words like Oranmiyan,Oromodiye (a day old chick), Apata(stone or rock) which actually means Peter or petra in Hebrew .
Can we decipher any puzzle from this.

Pearlyakin:
So what about the Obelisk similarities between the Oranmiyan obelisk and the Ethiopian Obelisk ?
What about Yoruba words like Oranmiyan,Oromodiye (a day old chick), Apata(stone or rock) which actually means Peter or petra in Hebrew .
Can we decipher any puzzle from this.

I have come to the conclusion that their is no ethnicity or tribe. It doesn't make any sense. It is just a human constraction thing. We are all the same.

Hati13:

I have come to the conclusion that their is no ethnicity or tribe. It doesn't make any sense. It is just a human constraction thing. We are all the same.

If truly there is no ethnicity, why do people share different DNA?

Olu317:
If truly there is no ethnicity, why do people share different DNA?

We are all human. We can breed with any human. Ethnic groups was created by humans to categorize people that speak same language and share same culture. In those groups, there are my people with different features. Here in Ethiopia, I will be categorized as Amhara, because my descendants spoken Amharic and followed Amhara culture. If I go to USA, I will be categorized as black ethnicity, because I'm not white like white people. People who speak French and follow French culture, then they are referred as French ethnic. When they are comparing with African or Asia, then they will be referred as while ethnicity. When we become inter-planetary people, then those who live on Earth will be categorized as Earth ethnicity.

You hadn't been thought by nature about ethnic when you grow up, rather you had been thought by humans.

So, ethnic groups are created by men to differentiate some group of people who follow same culture from those who didn't.

Hati13:

We are all human. We can breed with any human. Ethnic groups was created by humans to categorize people that speak same language and share same culture. In those groups, there are my people with different features. Here in Ethiopia, I will be categorized as Amhara, because my descendants spoken Amharic and followed Amhara culture. If I go to USA, I will be categorized as black ethnicity, because I'm not white like white people. People who speak French and follow French culture, then they are referred as French ethnic. When they are comparing with African or Asia, then they will be referred as while ethnicity. When we become inter-planetary people, then those who live on Earth will be categorized as Earth ethnicity.

You hadn't been thought by nature about ethnic when you grow up, rather you had been thought by humans.

So, ethnic groups are created by men to differentiate some group of people who follow same culture from those who didn't.

You are right about differentiation of ethnicity by people because of Superiority tendency. The white didn't start it but EGYPTIANS ,LIBYANS (BERBERS) AND OLD ETHIOPIA KINGDOM. The world will only become a beautiful place when people don't see each tribe as belonging to a particular group. Considering ,your tribe and it Semitic language, do shows your tribe belonging to the Middle East region ,whose original ancestors will be unravelled in the nearest future.

Olu317:
You are right about differentiation of ethnicity by people because of Superiority tendency. The white didn't start it but EGYPTIANS ,LIBYANS (BERBERS) AND OLD ETHIOPIA KINGDOM. The world will only become a beautiful place when people don't see each tribe as belonging to a particular group. Considering ,your tribe and it Semitic language, do shows your tribe belonging to the Middle East region ,whose original ancestors will be unravelled in the nearest future.

Everything you stated is true!

Hati13:
Everything you stated is true!

Stay bless bro.

9jakool:
question to you Op..
I've always been interested in the way Ethiopians identify. For example what is the difference between Tigrigna and Biher-Tigrigna. They seem like the same people to me if you ask me.

Yes you are right. They are basically the same people.

What about the rulers after Haile Selassie, Colonel Mengistu and Legesse Zenawi?

makahlj2:
What about the rulers after Haile Selassie, Colonel Mengistu and Legesse Zenawi?

If I may correct you, it's not "Ledesse", but "Meles".

If you asking if they were pro-slavery, then they weren't.

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Hati13:

When Italy invaded us in 1935, instead of fighting theme and possibly die, he fled the country. The Italians only occupied few areas of the country. None of the Ethiopians in large area of the country surrendered. During Italy 5 years occupation, between 500,000-800,000 Ethiopian people died. In 1941, Ethiopia was liberated mostly by the Ethiopian patriotic rather than most people belief, it was mostly done by the British force.

When he was exile in UK, Marcus Gravely went there to meet him, but he said no, because he was black. After that moment, some black people(including Marcus Gravely) attitude towards him changed for the bad.

During his reign, he kept many million Dollars in foreign Banks and brought a special cake for his dog birthday, while most of the people were in starvation(especially, the people of Wollo, Amhara region).

It took him 2 years to accept the abolishment of slavery, in order to be a member of the League of Nations.

I don't want to believe this, I respect the man alot