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Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 11:13am On May 01, 2017
I know constitutionally the VP is second in command but from what i have seen happening in naija now, it seems kyari is running naija now. And from some series that i watched like the fixer and 24, the chief of staff seems to have more power than the VP. I may be wrong here but what do you think people? Between the VP and chief of staff who has more influence/power?

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by Ajoboss(m): 11:17am On May 01, 2017
I have no idea cry
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by Nobody: 11:35am On May 01, 2017
how afons wan lord dia masters..

this is nigeria...

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by yarimo(m): 11:39am On May 01, 2017
Constitutionally the vice-president is powerful than the chief of staff, but in nigeria the president can make a minister more powerful than the vice-president. Example MADUEKE the former petroleum minister she's powerful than NAMADI SAMBO the former Vice president

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by okosodo: 11:50am On May 01, 2017
From all indications, its abba kyari and dambazzau

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by 1wolex85: 11:55am On May 01, 2017
The thing is the President's chief of staff controls everything around the President and can influence key policy decisions. That is why most Presidents around the world like to choose the chief of staff themselves because they need to absolutely trust this person. It is not peculiar to Nigeria. Constitutionally the VP is more powerful but his power depends on the allowance the President gives him. The chief of staff is far more influential because he has the ears of the President but once that President is gone, the chief of staff likely goes with him as the VP or whoever is coming in will have his own man

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 12:09pm On May 01, 2017
1wolex85:
The thing is the President's chief of staff controls everything around the President and can influence key policy decisions. That is why most President's around the world like to choose the chief of staff themselves because they need to absolutely trust this person. It is not peculiar to Nigeria. Constitutionally the VP is more powerful but his power depends on the allowance the President gives him. The chief of staff is far more influential because he has the ears of the President but once that President is gone, the chief of staff likely goes with him as the VP or whoever is coming in will have his own man
my thoughts exactly. Nice one
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 12:10pm On May 01, 2017
yarimo:
Constitutionally the vice-president is powerful than the chief of staff, but in nigeria the president can make a minister more powerful than the vice-president. Example MADUEKE the former petroleum minister she's powerful than NAMADI SAMBO the former Vice president
it also looks like kyari is more powerful than osinbajo

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by FirstCounsel(m): 1:05pm On May 01, 2017
1wolex85:
The thing is the President's chief of staff controls everything around the President and can influence key policy decisions. That is why most President's around the world like to choose the chief of staff themselves because they need to absolutely trust this person. It is not peculiar to Nigeria. Constitutionally the VP is more powerful but his power depends on the allowance the President gives him. The chief of staff is far more influential because he has the ears of the President but once that President is gone, the chief of staff likely goes with him as the VP or whoever is coming in will have his own man
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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by Bigii(m): 1:11pm On May 01, 2017
FirstCounsel:

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by agbangam: 1:37pm On May 01, 2017
Op u don leave ur brain for toilet bah Who appointed d chief of staff U just chose to ask a very classic stupid MUMU question. Oya Op clap for ursef cos ur MUMU don Mature cheesy
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by genali(m): 2:12pm On May 01, 2017
Chief of staff have more influence than VP but, VP have more power. In nigeria whoever have presdential ears is more powerful even if it's a common P.A

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 2:28pm On May 01, 2017
agbangam:
Op u don leave ur brain for toilet bah Who appointed d chief of staff U just chose to ask a very classic stupid MUMU question. Oya Op clap for ursef cos ur MUMU don Mature cheesy
na mumu o, thats why the question. O boy no one gets to the president without the chief of staff.

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 2:29pm On May 01, 2017
genali:
Chief of staff have more influence than VP but, VP have more power. In nigeria whoever have presdential ears is more powerful even if it's a common P.A
on point.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 5:38am On May 02, 2017
bounty007:
how afons wan lord dia masters..

this is nigeria...
meaning?
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by blackpanda: 5:50am On May 02, 2017
Chief of staff is not an elected post. He can be removed at any time. Unlike the VP. Chief of staff has no constitutionally backing. Intact the president can scrap the entire post if he likes. But the President must have a VP, who is also constitutionally the head of NEC

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by blackpanda: 5:51am On May 02, 2017
yarimo:
Constitutionally the vice-president is powerful than the chief of staff, but in nigeria the president can make a minister more powerful than the vice-president. Example MADUEKE the former petroleum minister she's powerful than NAMADI SAMBO the former Vice president

Very true
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by babyfaceafrica: 6:36am On May 02, 2017
Depends on who the president is.During the last administration sambo was nonexistence...during bubu era..osibanjo is visible....all in all both portfolios na scam..if you can't be president.. Be a senate president or Governor..those one get power.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by Histrings08(m): 7:22am On May 02, 2017
Constitutionally tz vice president Buh in reality the chief of staff is more powerful
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:21am On May 02, 2017
The VeePee is more "powerful" while the COS is more influential.

The CoS is always at the mercies of the President who assigns authority to him, may decide to get rid of him at any time or whittle down his powers if he (President) so desires.

The VeePee, by constitution enjoys some privileges like immunity, head of statutory bodies and is immune from being ditched away at the instance of the President. He also enjoy the extra benefit of ascension should fate or any factor end the tenure of the President prematurely.

When it comes to influence, the COS has it more than the VeePee simply because of his closeness to the President. However, even a PA or non officeholder could be more influential IF he has the trust of the President... eg Mamman Daura and Oronto Douglas (During GEJ era) before his death.

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Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 9:34am On May 02, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
The VeePee is more "powerful" while the COS is more influential.

The CoS is always at the mercies of the President who assigns authority to him, may decide to get rid of him at any time or whittle down his powers if he (President) so desires.

The VeePee, by constitution enjoys some privileges like immunity, head of statutory bodies and is immune from being ditched away at the instance of the President. He also enjoy the extra benefit of ascension should fate or any factor end the tenure of the President prematurely.

When it comes to influence, the COS has it more than the VeePee simply because of his closeness to the President. However, even a PA or non officeholder could be more influential IF he has the trust of the President... eg Mamman Daura and Oronto Douglas (During GEJ era) before his death.
hmmn valid points. Although i believe that most times a VP can be nominated so that the president maybe be able to win votes from a partucular area during elections. Sometimes VP's/running mates are not even chosen by the president but a COS is always someone the president trusts and has unrestricted access to the president.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:44am On May 02, 2017
izombie:
hmmn valid points. Although i believe that most times a VP can be nominated so that the president maybe be able to win votes from a partucular area during elections. Sometimes VP's/running mates are not even chosen by the president but a COS is always someone the president trusts and has unrestricted access to the president.
Of course, the CoS is usually one the President trusts but same influence can be exercised by even a PA or non officeholder. Meanwhile, the CoS cannot take a decision on his own but through convincing the President, unlike the VeePee that could decide to be his own man or even challenge his boss and still keep his jobs and other privileges, this was seen in Obj/Atiku, Elechi/Umahi of Ebonyi.

The exit of the President marks the end of the CoS politically, but same cant be said of a VeePee who may continue to enjoy influence, respect and political patronage even at the exit of the President. Meanwhile, he becomes number one man should the President exit prematurely (death, impeachment or resignation).

Also, the President together with the VeePee owns the government. This administration is Buhari/Osinbajo government, being that it is a joint ticket.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by Greatigbos(f): 9:49am On May 02, 2017
I HAVE NOTING TO SAY
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 10:00am On May 02, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
Of course, the CoS is usually one the President trusts but same influence can be exercised by even a PA or non officeholder. Meanwhile, the CoS cannot take a decision on his own but through convincing the President, unlike the VeePee that could decide to be his own man or even challenge his boss and still keep his jobs and other privileges, this was seen in Obj/Atiku, Elechi/Umahi of Ebonyi.

The exit of the President marks the end of the CoS politically, but same cant be said of a VeePee who may continue to enjoy influence, respect and political patronage even at the exit of the President. Meanwhile, he becomes number one man should the President exit prematurely (death, impeachment or resignation).

Also, the President together with the VeePee owns the government. This administration is Buhari/Osinbajo government, being that it is a joint ticket.
nice one
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by PatriotTemidayo: 11:21am On May 02, 2017
It is traditional to all democracies that so long the president is alive, and in-charge, His COS, who holds the wheels of activities for him or her is more powerful than a deputy. As a matter of fact, correspondences that might delegate certain jobs to the Vice president has to be vetted by the president's COS.

That only changes if the vice take substantive position of a president.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 1:02pm On May 02, 2017
PatriotTemidayo:
It is traditional to all democracies that so long the president is alive, and in-charge, His COS, who holds the wheels of activities for him or her is more powerful than a deputy. As a matter of fact, correspondences that might delegate certain jobs to the Vice president has to be vetted by the president's COS.

That only changes if the vice take substantive position of a president.
so you are going with the COS. You made sense
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by orisa37: 1:06pm On May 02, 2017
Stupid question.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by orisa37: 1:15pm On May 02, 2017
Ajoboss:
I have no idea cry


And Mr. Stupid is Lucifer.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by orisa37: 1:20pm On May 02, 2017
bounty007:
how afons wan lord dia masters..

this is nigeria...

Biafra is Judas.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by orisa37: 1:44pm On May 02, 2017
yarimo:
Constitutionally the vice-president is powerful than the chief of staff, but in nigeria the president can make a minister more powerful than the vice-president. Example MADUEKE the former petroleum minister she's powerful than
NAMADI SAMBO the former Vice president


Madueke is a Thief. Namadi is not. Gej supports them both.
Re: Between The Vice President And Chief Of Staff, Who Has More Power? by izombie(m): 6:59pm On May 02, 2017
orisa37:



Madueke is a Thief. Namadi is not. Gej supports them both.
you dey well so?

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