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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 1:39pm On May 07, 2017
mvem:
...but intl societies like redcross and the swiss gov was involved in the negotiation and this is fact from intl' media....what will u say about that
USA gov planned with 7 northern state on how to remove Jonathan, NB I'm not for either apc or pdp and I voted for buhari... Let this government explain to us how chibok was rescued, what did they give Boko Haram on return, let them tell us the venue for their meeting, how did they communicate with Boko Haram..... This is a planed game, note this, towards 2019 election Boko Haram will be no where to be found

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by giles14(m): 1:39pm On May 07, 2017
IbnSultaan:
ICRC moving released Chibok Girls to board NAF MI- 17 for an undisclosed location ystrday



GOD BLESS BUHARI
dem say 82 were released .
but Mi17 chopper has ability to only carry max=30 passengers.
so where are the remaining
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by sanusikebbe(m): 1:39pm On May 07, 2017
To wailers I know they will still think it's a scam.Some ppl brain ehh.......
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by Nobody: 1:42pm On May 07, 2017
adont know wat to say sha

Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 1:43pm On May 07, 2017
mvem:
...bokoharam has been kidnapping young girls, that is fact...i hv been maiduguri and this is no fairy tale....yes the chibok saga might hv been politicized but girls were actually kidnapped....even the swiss gov, red cross and several intl' socities were involved in negotiations.....if it was scam wont they not know?...
how would they know when the games was well planed. I think Australia of France wanted to join the negotiation team to work with FG on how to negotiate with Boko Haram, FG do everything wuru wuru, let them explain how this girl were rescue , through gun battle or negotiation? If by negotiate who and who negotiated with them.... All these were fabricated lies
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by tinsel: 1:44pm On May 07, 2017
noetic5:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5271634_abuja_pngc984740777f6c498b6a7279b52576a33



see more photos of the Chibok girls as they meet with President Buhari SEE PHOTOS


these photos shows smthing fishy tho shocked shocked
I am seeing a gradual sidelining of the vice president in the last two weeks now.

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by Respect11(m): 1:45pm On May 07, 2017
see the backside of the last babe. hmmmm
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 1:46pm On May 07, 2017
mvem:
...bokoharam has been kidnapping young girls, that is fact...i hv been maiduguri and this is no fairy tale....yes the chibok saga might hv been politicized but girls were actually kidnapped....even the swiss gov, red cross and several intl' socities were involved in negotiations.....if it was scam wont they not know?...
and about kidnapping, we have kidnaper all over the country
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by emmanuelpopson(m): 1:47pm On May 07, 2017
now its certain that the chibok girls kidnapping was politically motivated...its the 2nd year running of this govt and second batch release of the school girls..why is it coincidence?? who are the negotiators? is boko haram still in sanbisa Forest that our military claimed to have conquered?? APC were playing this games but now..we all know the people this book haram..
anyone born out of woman by natural or CS that is behind boko haram, causing untold hardship, emotional trauma, bombings, massacre, kidnappings etc will not see the end of this year.. they will suffer and never see any to help them.. there life shall end miserably without any remedy..

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by mvem(m): 1:47pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
USA gov planned with 7 northern state on how to remove Jonathan, NB I'm not for either apc or pdp and I voted for buhari... Let this government explain to us how chibok was rescued, what did they give Boko Haram on return, let them tell us the venue for their meeting, how did they communicate with Boko Haram..... This is a planed game, note this, towards 2019 election Boko Haram will be no where to be found
..even if gov negotiates this deal they can never tell you details...even a family that hv rescued a kidnapped family member wont tell u hw much was given or what was given....am not supporting the gov or pro-whatever am just saying that no gov will release details of negotiation of this sort ,even US having negatioted with taliban or alqaeda b4 wont give u details....
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by mvem(m): 1:51pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
and about kidnapping, we have kidnaper all over the country
....this was done by a terrorist organization and received so much intl attention just like when school children were kidnapped in 2009/2010 i think in aba or so that brought so much intl attention
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 1:51pm On May 07, 2017
mvem:
..even if gov negotiates this deal they can never tell you details...even a family that hv rescued a kidnapped family member wont tell u hw much was given or what was given....am not supporting the gov or pro-whatever am just saying that no gov will release details of negotiation of this sort ,even US having negatioted with taliban or alqaeda b4 wont give u details....
I respect your opinion and point of view...... But from my own opinion there is/was no chibok girls

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by Beetobee(f): 1:51pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
APC is a SCAM.... Chibok girls ko alimanjiri ni... Dey fool una self
Okay...scam with the Red Cross shey? So many mumus on social media, its alarming.
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by blaqroy: 1:52pm On May 07, 2017
They can never be tired.......APC
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 1:52pm On May 07, 2017
Beetobee:

Okay...scam with the Red Cross shey? So many mumus on social media, its alarming.
no be watin dey tell red cross to do them go do?
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by GetMeRight: 1:53pm On May 07, 2017
handsomeclouds:
These people think I'm a fool
Now that much attention has been drawn to PMB's ill health and bad performance.
Its time to distract our attention and make us believe PMB is performing

Campaign strategy;
By 2018 yet another set would be released
And finally 2019 the last batch

#Radarada
Nigerians are now wiser!
Like if you agree with me... Share if you disagree
Who cares what you think you are.
Before, Chibok girls issue was to get IB out of the office. Today, it is to divert attention away from the Buhari's health. Tomorrow, it is to campaign in 2019. Okay o, continue.
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by mvem(m): 1:54pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
how would they know when the games was well planed. I think Australia of France wanted to join the negotiation team to work with FG on how to negotiate with Boko Haram, FG do everything wuru wuru, let them explain how this girl were rescue , through gun battle or negotiation? If by negotiate who and who negotiated with them.... All these were fabricated lies
...intl media says swiss gov , the icrc(redcross) and other bodies were part of negotiation and this was by intl media and none denied anything ...infact the twitted pix of the girls were from the intl red cross society

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by buchai: 1:54pm On May 07, 2017
the script about Chibok girls was a well written script and the present administration knows how to execute the script, whoever wrote the chibok girls script must be in APC.

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by Bigframe: 1:56pm On May 07, 2017
APC is the greatest scam in the history of our country. I wonder why so many Nigerians still allow this govt to deceive them...hmmmmm

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by OreMI22: 1:58pm On May 07, 2017
Another group of girls released , none resembled the picture of the Chibok girls we know?

Okay, someday they will tell us where they got the published pictures of Chibok girls from

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by GetMeRight: 1:58pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
I respect your opinion and point of view...... But from my own opinion there is/was no chibok girls
Unfortunately for you, your opinion doesn't matter to the international community.
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 2:02pm On May 07, 2017
GetMeRight:

Unfortunately for you, your opinion doesn't matter to the international community.
go and fix your brain sir

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by OROSUNBOLB(m): 2:04pm On May 07, 2017
Hmmm! No wahala,but I refuse to be scammed.

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by fishbone11(m): 2:06pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
not only feeling sir, there was a time our army bombarded sambisa, na where them keep over 200 children?
Abeg, even the movie don tire me sef. A lot of questions are left unanswered. We are watching in 3D screen, time will expose the truth

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by Elfaris(m): 2:08pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
I don't need to exchange an acrimony with you.... Let this government explain how they met with Boko Haram and the negotiation about this shit... I'll say it over and over again, there was/is nothing like chibok girls, buhari planned the shit back in the days, Boko Haram bongs to buhari, when we are about to vote (2019) you'll see Boko Haram will be no where to be found
Hmm am impressed, since you're so sure about your allegations against the president why don't you blow the whistle? you know whistle blowers are making lots of money this days.. Take the president to court and if you are able to prove your case you'll get filthy rich you know.....SMH
How shallow and gullible some people are just amazes me. You're indirectly calling your Hero(GEJ) a nincompoop because if your allegations against buhari is true wouldn't GEJ have investigated and have him arrested while he(GEJ) was still president? But no I guess he wanted to play lotto with peoples lives right? Goosshh You better wake up to reality dude..

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by four4: 2:15pm On May 07, 2017
Caricature:
One of the most traumatic things a woman can go through cry
......CARICATURE........
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 2:18pm On May 07, 2017
Elfaris:

Hmm am impressed, since you're so sure about your allegations against the president why don't you blow the whistle? you know whistle blowers are making lots of money this days.. Take the president to court and if you are able to prove your case you'll get filthy rich you know.....SMH
How shallow and gullible some people are just amazes me. You're indirectly calling your Hero(GEJ) a nincompoop because if your allegations against buhari is true wouldn't GEJ have investigated and have him arrested while he(GEJ) was still president? But no I guess he wanted to play lotto with peoples lives right? Goosshh You better wake up to reality dude..
sir this is not about GEJ or PMB, FYI I voted for buhari, if I have the money to take anybody to court I won't be on this thread writing shit about a failed country, and for any reason I'll never blow whistle against anyone..... My life is so simple
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by ayodejifikunmi(m): 2:20pm On May 07, 2017
adenine02:
9ice














we shall overcome















God bless PMB
God bless V.P Yemi
God bless Nigeria
God bless me















and God purnish the enemies of NIGERIA (IPOD, PDP, SHIA, BOKOHARAM etc.)
receive sence ijn
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by konoplyanka: 2:23pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
go and fix your brain sir
please I'll beg you to stop stating what you know nothing of as a fact. pdp could have Taken their time to investigate this issue if it was a scam. do you think this magnitude of scam could have gone under a sitting president? if it did, then Jonathan is a failed leader and deserved to be booted out. common, are you telling me he had no Intel in the nation he controlled?

we should stop mocking people's predicament so that evil may not befall us. the parents of these girls went through trauma and it will be callous to rub it on their faces by calling it scam. we must be careful of what we say because even the politicians in pdp know it's true.

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Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by dudley1459: 2:24pm On May 07, 2017
Fools led by a foolish govt........ Nonsense
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by opethom(m): 2:31pm On May 07, 2017
konoplyanka:

please I'll beg you to stop stating what you know nothing of as a fact. pdp could have Taken their time to investigate this issue if it was a scam. do you think this magnitude of scam could have gone under a sitting president? if it did, then Jonathan is a failed leader and deserved to be booted out. common, are you telling me he had no Intel in the nation he controlled?

we should stop mocking people's predicament so that evil may not befall us. the parents of these girls went through trauma and it will be callous to rub it on their faces by calling it scam. we must be careful of what we say because even the politicians in pdp know it's true.
fvck apc or pdp, I'm not here for Any party or either GEJ OR PMB, there are lots of unanswered questions about this chibok , and do you think there is no more than magnitude scam under this PMB?
Re: ICRC Moving Released Chibok Girls NAF MI- 17 by GavelSlam: 2:32pm On May 07, 2017
opethom:
I don't need to exchange an acrimony with you.... Let this government explain how they met with Boko Haram and the negotiation about this poo... I'll say it over and over again, there was/is nothing like chibok girls, buhari planned the poo back in the days, Boko Haram bongs to buhari.. Note this sir, when we are about to vote (2019) you'll see Boko Haram will be no where to be found... Let me clear this sir, I'm not for APC or PDP

So Boko Haram which covers Cameroun, Niger, Chad and Nigeria was started by Buhari in 2009 while Yar'adua was president?

The problem with your likes is that you wouldn't read.

You would take everything said in your local palmwine joint hook, line and sinker without some circumspection or analysis.



This article was first published in the Dailytrust, in February, 6 months before the first BokoHaram crisis in July, 2009.

He was arrested six times. And each time he was in detention, many in Borno state, especially in Maiduguri, the state capital, wished that Muhammad Yusuf would never get another chance to see the light of day or, if he did, he would be banished to somewhere far away. But, unfortunately for these people, the authorities that arrested him always said there was no compelling evidence enough to jail him long for those irked by his activities to forget about him.

Why do many people in Maiduguri, especially Muslims, detest this man and his group? One resident of Maiduguri said: “It is because he asked all our children to withdraw from western oriented schools. According to this man, if we want them to be doctors, engineers, pilots, etc., the schools must not teach certain subjects or have both sexes in the same environment; a male teacher must not teach a female student and vice versa. He also teaches that parents should not participate in politics or work in any government establishment that is not based on Islamic laws. The group sees any person who acts contrary to this teaching as a kufr (i.e. an infidel)”, said the resident names withheld.

In a recent press release signed by its Shura (Consultative) Council, the group said: “Islam permits us to subsist under a modern government like Nigeria but has explicitly prohibited us from joining or supporting such governments in so far as their systems, structures and institutions contain elements contradictory to core Islamic principles and beliefs. Consequent upon that, we maintain a position and principle of non-violence and non-cooperation towards the government until our demand for the eradication of such contradictory elements are due and promptly met.

“It should, nevertheless, be noted that our stand should not be interpreted or misrepresented to mean a negation of the Islamic concept of Jihaad which we always believe to be valid upon the attainment of three basic prerequisites: an Islamic leader, state and flag which are largely not obtainable in the current Nigerian setting. However, we believe that Jihaad for the defence of Islam and Muslims when attacked at any time is always valid and does not require the mentioned prerequisites”.

Many lawyers who spoke to Sunday Trust argued that as long as the constitution, which the group doesn’t regard in any way, grants every individual freedom of expression, “they cannot be charged for any wrong doing”.

But the Chairman, Nigerian Bar Association, Borno state chapter, Barrister Haruna Mshelia, argued to the contrary. According to him, freedom of expression is subject to certain limitations: “One can criticise the constitution as being bad or not comprehensive, but to impeach the authority of the constitution or disregard it smells like rebellion. The fact that no force was used cannot remedy the situation and it will be irresponsible of any authority to wait for the occurrence of violence before it acts in the face of impending threat to law and order”.

Interestingly, investigations conducted by our correspondent revealed that many people, including over 100 youths that dropped out of tertiary institutions where they were studying Engineering, Law, Medicine and other courses, have abandoned their respective workplaces in response to the teachings of the group. Many of them have, apparently, retired to “total devotion to the Will of Allah and are contented with the menial jobs” they do that can only keep them slightly above water, said a former medical student who spoke to Sunday Trust.

The former student added that he left school on his own volition after considering the following issues: The curriculum, as it was, contradicted his faith and the amount of time he spent on his studies did not give him enough room to acquire knowledge of Islam. Unlawful interaction with the opposite sex, mostly clad in indecent clothing, was responsible for his decision to drop out of school. “I have to choose between these and the life in the Hereafter and I preferred the Hereafter to this one that is short and only looks sweet to unbelievers”, he said.

For thousands of adherents, the continuous arrest of their amir (leader) And harassment of members of the group is reminiscent of the sufferings of the prophets. This, they believe, confirms to them that they are among “those promised direct entry into paradise” if they persevere in their belief. With them, compromising orthodox Islam would lead to hellfire if they die. It is this notion that formed the substrata of the moral courage this group is known for within and outside the state, said many non-members of the group in Maiduguri and Bauchi.

A close look at the activities of this group revealed that the bone of contention between Muhammad Yusuf and the rest of the Islamic community is his ultra conservative brand of Islam or, as others put it, his rigid interpretation of the teachings of Islam that has resulted in thousands of children and youths dropping out of schools at all levels.

Like other Muslims who strive to emulate the Prophet (PBUH) in appearance and action, such as by keeping beards, wearing turbans, trousers slightly below the knees, using miswak (chewing stick) to brush the mouth, etc, members of the group also practise these strictly while their women wear niqab (a covering for the face), with hijabs (gown) that reach to the ground; to these women, any display of beauty must be restricted to their mahrams while some of the men have on several occasions shed tears whenever their eyes sighted a female dressed in a seductive or indecent manner.

Members of the group are struggling to adapt their lives to a more conservative lifestyle. Many of them sleep on mats, eat only with their bare hands, do not watch TV or listen to radio, which they see as a distraction in attaining salvation. Interestingly however, they use mobile phones, take car and motorcycle rides, and some are seen with laptops. They also take passport photographs for the purpose of boarding planes to perform pilgrimage, etc.

Analysts wonder why, if this group claims that it is haram (forbidden) to attend western oriented schools, they use facilities that are products of these schools. Most members of the group go to hospitals to be treated for their illnesses, yet they say it is haram to go to the university to study Medicine.

In an interview with Sunday Trust, Malam Yusuf said by saying schooling and working with government was haram, they meant the manner in which the system was being operated could make a person to commit haram or shirk (ascribing partners to Allah). One of Malam Yusuf’s lieutenants, Abubakar Shekau, explicitly summed up the group’s position in 2006: “Western education is like a pot of honey and, when everyone tasted it, a tray of faeces was added onto it and many Muslims decided to lick the filth with the hope that, eventually, they may live to taste the bottom and benefit from the honey”. But members of the group, he said, refused to partake in this because they feared that if they were “caught up in the process by death, hell fire will be inevitable”. In Maiduguri, this group is feared mainly because it brings back horrific memories of the 2003/2004 insurgent attacks that resulted in the loss of many lives and properties in Kanamma and Gwoza in Yobe and Borno states. Although the insurgents, a renegade group that called itself “Taliban”, led by one Malam Muhammad Alli, fiercely disagreed with Malam Yusuf when he refused to subscribe to the idea of hijra (migration) for the entire group, many of them who escaped that armed struggle with the police are believed to have rejoined their estranged amir.

The group’s mild condemnation of Israel and the Western world, directing their blames at the shortcomings of Muslims as the main reason for the plight of the Muslim Ummah instead, has made many in the state to speculate that Malam Yusuf is being sponsored by Zionists to undermine the capacity of the Ummah to withstand any intellectual and physical challenge posed to them by the western world. His huge finances are also seen to be a basis for such speculation. However, the group insists that the daily tithe each member contributes is their major source of revenue. “I am a successful crop and livestock farmer,” Malam Yusuf said.

Another cause for concern in Maiduguri about this group is the rate at which it wins converts, particularly youths, on a daily basis, which many think is mystifying. The way Malam Yusuf always celebrates the increasing number of his devotees has made many clerics in the region to say, in the words of one of the critics, “It is political Islam”. Many say that if care is not taken, there may be another breakaway faction, like the so-called Taliban because, among members of the group, there are those who see Malam Yusuf as being too moderate for giving in to “unwarranted arrests” by security operatives and condemnations by “infidels”. Although these elements see Malam Yusuf as too meek, they are left with no option but to follow him because he is the most knowledgeable person in the group.

The number of members of the group with their families is estimated to be over 300,000 in Maiduguri alone, “and about twice this number exists in rural areas in the state”, said a member of the Shura of the group. They are also found in their thousands in virtually all the northern states of Nigeria, including Abuja, the neighbouring countries of Chad, Cameroon and Niger.


Sheik Abba Aji, a Maiduguri-based Muslim scholar considered to be moderate, once attributed the rate of convertion to this group to the level of joblessness and hopelessness in the present generation of youths. “The situation is so bad. People are hungry, people are suffering. People see clearly that leaders are cheating. Today you are with a local government chairman or commissioner who has nothing prior to his election or appointment; tomorrow, he builds a big house and owns fleets of cars. So the people see these acts and they are beginning to revolt”, he said.

The late Sheik Ja‘far Mahmud Adam of Kano and Malam Isa Ali Fantami in Bauchi, amongst others, have dissociated themselves from the teachings of this group. According to these scholars, many scholars of Islam since time immemorial, from most of whose teachings Malam Yusuf has benefited tremendously, lived under kings and regimes that were not practicing Sharia, and many Islamic states, even during the time of the Prophet, cooperated with non-Islamic or secular states.

These scholars agreed with Malam Yusuf’s interpretations only in part; that a lot needed to be done to overhaul the educational system, which negatively affected young Muslims in their quest to practice their religion, especially in areas where Muslims are predominantly found. The late Jafar was reported to have said he was shocked after deliberating with Malam Yusuf in Saudi Arabia.

It takes an educated person to understand an educational system and the ills in it; it also takes an educated person to know to what extent education can affect the life of a Muslim. “I think Malam Yusuf is incapable of making such a judgment,” said Malam Isa during one of his debates with Malam Yusuf in Bauchi.
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