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Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by deantimes(m): 8:56pm On May 24, 2017 |
Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better To Facilitate Development FORMER President Goodluck Jonathan has http://www.socialtimesng.net/2017/05/jonathan-fiscal-federalism-system-better-facilitate-development/ 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by CROWNWEALTH019(m): 8:57pm On May 24, 2017 |
If only they allowed him to work... 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by deantimes(m): 8:57pm On May 24, 2017 |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by osinbanjoisaliar: 9:11pm On May 24, 2017 |
The greatest Nigerian leader ever. When he talks, it would do afonjas well to listen and take notes. Instead of relying on amala and ewedu clueless godfathers 13 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by swagagolic01(m): 9:11pm On May 24, 2017 |
My hero 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by xcolanto(m): 9:16pm On May 24, 2017 |
Watched the lecture on AIT today! It was part of the rivers at 50 celebration. All what was said was based on the concluded 2014 confab which was a Brilliant road map away from the misery of the failed Nigerian state. A good one from the hero of African democracy! Good bless GeJ #team restructure #team confab #refreerandum 8 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by APCsupporter: 9:20pm On May 24, 2017 |
this goat should let us be. useless man. so why didn't you at least make an attempt to adopt it? so far Jonathan is the worst president the world has ever seen. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by samstradam: 9:32pm On May 24, 2017 |
This man's and his followers stupidity knows no bounds. I mean how can it be now that he has left the centre that he knows it is important for fiscal federalism?? Did this son of the creeks not know that the kinsmen he appointed to NDDC were doing nothing? Or is he saying they wanted to work but he gave them no money to work ?? Or did he need the northerners permission to sack his own kinsmen?? I never knew this useless ExPresident and Arsene Wenger have so much in common- when it is to late they shift goalposts and blame everyone for their failures except themselves!! Don't worry GEJ, fiscally liberated Wike will come and tar the road leading to your village for you... don't go and beg that small boy Dickson who you installed and is now doing big boy for you. Mumu. 8 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:38pm On May 24, 2017 |
Good talk but why didn't he implement it? 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Pavarottii(m): 9:43pm On May 24, 2017 |
APCsupporter:At least he took a bold step to do it. Why can't buhari implement it? 11 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Adminisher: 9:48pm On May 24, 2017 |
This is the most idiotic president ever. Fiscal federalism now after you left government and did nothing about it. You caused a recession and state governments are begging FG for loans to pay salaries. It is now you know about fiscal federalism. Empty dunce of a PhD holder . Get it straight Mr yesterday President and your low IQ followers. Every thing costs money, even restructuring. We have lost that chance. Let Buhari build agriculture and solid minerals, then we can have it. For now it is just words you say at a party or beer palour to look smart. It is not happening. Next time opportunity knocks , you use it well 5 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:08pm On May 24, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: To be fair he made a move but implementation is a National Assembly ish nah. 7 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by wirinet(m): 10:10pm On May 24, 2017 |
Dearis goduoo. From 1999 to 2005 when you were deputy Governor, you did not canvass for fiscal federalism. From 2005 to 2007 when you were Governor, you did not canvass for fiscal federalism. From 2007 to 2010 when you were vice president, you did not canvass for fiscal federalism. From 2010 to 2015 when you were acting president and president you did not canvass for fiscal federalism. You now lost the elections and suddenly you saw the light, you now canvass for fiscal federalism. Would you have seen the light of fiscal federalism had you won the elections? 6 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:11pm On May 24, 2017 |
Adminisher: Lol. You must be a northerner right? Stop being scared of restructuring man. How many resource rich countries are doing better than those without resources? Nobody ever said that restructuring will just happen over night. It will be done in phases and the FG will give huge monies Gotten from oil and loans to the states to diversify their economies. 4 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:13pm On May 24, 2017 |
I have a question which likely has no definite answer. Do you think a state can massively grow it's economy to a Lagos, PH like status without Federal support given our Federal structure? How did the Germans do theirs? 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by samstradam: 10:14pm On May 24, 2017 |
Pavarottii: What bold step? So by simply discussing a matter, one takes a bold step? Ok, I have decided I will one day knock Mayweather out..... abi I have taken my bold step!! A reminder to you revisionist, his failure of a national conference agreed to leave derivation the way they met it, but they did leave it to him to take an actual bold step if he wanted it changed: Derivation: Confab stands on 13%, pushes increase to Jonathan I don't think I need to go on about what the bold step should have been. He had almost a year to make sure he left a legacy for his kith and kin. Pavarottii:Why should he? What was wrong with Jonathan's hand? Or did the people in the North tell you derivation was one of the reasons they were screaming Sai Buhari? If I recollect, their problems were Boko Haram and recovering from the self inflicted havoc in their region. In my opinion Buhari has addressed this in 2 years far better than Jonathan addressed any of his kinsmen issues. Let's call a spade a spade and never use the word "bold" and "Jonathan" in the same sentence. |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by luvinhubby(m): 10:16pm On May 24, 2017 |
Only blinded zombies that will disagree with this submission. The earlier Nigeria return to 2014 confab report, the better for us. 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:17pm On May 24, 2017 |
Maduawuchukwu:which move? |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by luvinhubby(m): 10:18pm On May 24, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: 2014 Confab. 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:21pm On May 24, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: National Conference that he organised is it not a move? abi it is only a Shift? 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by omenkaLives(m): 10:22pm On May 24, 2017 |
samstradam:Got nothing more to add. |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by samstradam: 10:25pm On May 24, 2017 |
luvinhubby: Kindly post where the 2014 confab reached the conclusion that derivation formula must change or apologize to the poster you were arguing with. Some people sef, if Jona tell them their mother and father are not their parents, they will accept. |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:26pm On May 24, 2017 |
Maduawuchukwu: luvinhubby: Maduawuchukwu: Obasanjo also had Confab in 2005 Abacha had his in 1994. The BIG question is, What Stops Jonathan (and others) to implement his Confab resolution when he was in power? BTW The 2014 Confab (unlike 1994 and 2005) didn't conclude on derivation principle for Oil and Minerals producing states. |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:31pm On May 24, 2017 |
samstradam:Actually he might have been able to do something but you know that no good leader takes decisions without a major part of his people being at his back most especially for a major decision that involves revenue. If he had done it unilaterally; that is even if he had the power, he would have been a Niger-Delta president and not a Nigerian president. A resolution reached by the conference would have been better as it would have come from delegates who represented all parts of the country. And that is the difference between pple like Obj or GEJ then Buhari. Why the first two acted like Nigerian presidents the latter acts like a northern president. 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:33pm On May 24, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista:He organised a confab where people of different views were to represent their people and their desires. That is democracy. Or did u expect him to force his own decisions on them? Is restructuring not possible only when all parts of Nigeria agree? 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by luvinhubby(m): 10:34pm On May 24, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: Abacha'"s confab gave us the 6 geo political zones and 13% derivation, Obasanjo's confab was a deceit aimed at amending the constitution to give him a third term and ended when the South-south was denied 25% derivation demand. The 2014 confab is by far the most elaborate and thorough document that can address Nigeria's ills if implemented well. 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:36pm On May 24, 2017 |
Maduawuchukwu:Abacha and Obasanjo also organised Confab. Will you say both men tried? |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by luvinhubby(m): 10:42pm On May 24, 2017 |
samstradam: Did you even read the whole post at all? Goodluck's submission is on true fiscal federalism and NOT derivation. The 2104 confab agreed on fiscal federalism, in which states are allowed to harness resources to their individual benefits. It also removed certain items from the exclusive list, paving the way for the removal of federal bureaucratic bottlenecks from states, allowing each to develop what it has it's own way. 2 Likes |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:51pm On May 24, 2017 |
TonyeBarcanista: Of course I will say good apart from OBJ's own which was fraudulent. OBJ has always been in a unitary Nigeria so he was just looking for 3rd term. Abachas confab introduced 13 percent derivation and geopolitical zones no be so? 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 10:58pm On May 24, 2017 |
But can't we decentralise little by little? Start with those less contentious parts and eventually we will get to the fractious ones. 1 Like |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by samstradam: 11:49pm On May 24, 2017 |
Maduawuchukwu: I understand where you are coming from but what you don't realise was that OBJ, despite being roundly rejected by us in the West addressed our most poignant issue early in his first term, by crippling the ability of the North to rule us against our will using their favourite tool, the Army. This was no mean feat and is the single most important reason Yorubas supported him enmasse in 2004. He restructured the Nigerian power landscape and his original backers only realised it when it was too late to stop him! The reason why I am pointing this out to you is to show that sometimes being motivated by sectional goals can actually be something that enriches all of us (Yoruba, Ijaw, Igbo etc) and being motivated by nothing (i.e. GEJ) can be a far worse alternative. I put it to you that regional resource control would actually help the 5 other regions of Nigeria more in the long run because they would all be forced to sit up and face life the way it actually is. I mean would Northerners self inflict so much harm on their region if they knew their was no oil money to rebuild it? Would they allow Fulani herdsmen to destroy farms if they knew these crops will finance their budgets? Would we Yoruba continue with states like Ekiti that are not viable? A president of the North that wants to kill Boko haram, bring back chibok girls and fight corruption is fine with me for now as long as he allows my Lagos to keep developing at its pace. Eventually if his onesideness is not addressed, I will move on to the next local champion that will give me what I believe is important for my region and hopefully my country to move on. |
Re: Jonathan Canvasses For Fiscal Federalism, Says System Would Work Better by Maduawuchukwu(m): 12:07am On May 25, 2017 |
samstradam: What OBJ did to the north was a patriotic duty. Breaking the evil yoke a part of a country has over another is good but revenue is a different matter most especially in a country where the ruling elite killed all the other regions means of livelihood just cause of oil fixation. If Nigeria must remain one country the issue of revenue must be sorted out neatly so that each part has something to hold on to. You can pontificate as much as you want but you know that there is not suppose to be a massive difference in economic well being between different parts of a country so the revenue issue must be done carefully with support of most of the country. Even if GEJ increased Niger-Delta revenue via constitutional provision providing for 13% and above another president could return it backwards to 13% because no law regulates it. So the issue is not that simple. 2 Likes |
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