SHALOM!

There are people who were known to be strong-in-Faith in the past- but NOW their Faith can no longer do anything. the reasons for this are not obvious.

That is to say, the TRUE reasons. There are "USUAL SUSPECT" Reasons for "FAITH-FAILURE," which are immediately taken to be the cause namely SIN and UNBELIEF.

If those are eliminated, most people cannot "think outside the box" and come up with other reasons.

(1) UNFORGIVENESS.

.   MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12. And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry;
13. And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves,
he went to see
if perhaps he might find
any thing thereon.
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves,
for the time for figs
was not yet.

14. And Jesus spoke
and said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard it.

20. And in the morning
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

"Master, behold,
the fig tree which thou cursedst
is withered away."

22. And Jesus answering
saith unto him,

"Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER
SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,

"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU
CAST INTO THE SEA;"

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'

24. "Therefore I say unto you,

'WHAT THINGS SOEVER
YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have ought against any:
that your Father also,
Which is in Heaven
may forgive you your Trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your Trespasses."

THIS used to be an "obvious;" however, the prevalence of "VENGEANCE-PRAYING"  shows that this factor is largely forgotten. The Servant of Yahshua has no right to pray for others to come to harm.

What they have done to earn our "Righteous Wrath" is insignificant.

Unless you never Sinned your entire life, you have to forgive whoever offended you.

No "IFS," "ANDS," nor "BUTS."

(2) FAILURE TO INTERCEDE FOR ENEMIES AND STRANGERS.

.   MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.'

39. "But I say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL
SMITE THEE ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM
THE OTHER ALSO.'

40. "And if any man will sue thee at The Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have (thy) cloke also.
41. "And whosoever shall compel thee
to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'THOU SHALT LOVE
THY NEIGHBOUR
AND HATE
THINE ENEMY.'

44. "But I say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM
THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU
AND PERSECUTE YOU.'

45. "That ye may be
the Children of your Father
Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun
to rise on the Evil
and on the Good,
and sendeth Rain
on the Just
and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them
which love you,
what Reward have ye?
Do not even the Publicans
the same?
47. "And if ye salute
your Brethren only,
what do ye more (than others)
Do not even the Publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore Perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven
is Perfect."

Prayer for people whom we LIKE is EASY.

However, we do not do it of our own FREE WILL.

Our AFFINITY FOR them MAKES us do things for them.

PRAYING FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT US IS HARD FOR THE HYPOCRITE.

A person who TRULY BELIEVES THE TRUE GOSPEL has NO PROBLEM doing THINGS THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND- just because they FEAR GOD. After they have OBEYED the incomprehensible Commandment, THEN Understanding comes.

But the HYPOCRITE has NO QUALMS about NOT PRAYING for their ENEMIES, nor for TOTAL STRANGERS.

Therefore, their WILLPOWER LEVEL is DICTATED by THE EARTH- that is, THE NATURAL.

It becomes USELESS for SUPERNATURAL Operations.

(3) "GRACE" DOCTRINE: IMAGINARY RIGHTEOUSNESS.

.  JOHN 15:1-15.

"I AM The True Vine,
and my Father is
The Husbandman.
2. "Every branch in me
that beareth not fruit
He Taketh Away:
and every (branch)
that beareth fruit,
He Purgeth it,
that it may bring forth
more fruit.
3. "Now ye are clean
through The Word
which I have spoken
unto you.
4. "Abide in me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye,
except ye abide in me.
5. "I am The Vine,
ye are The Branches:

'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME,
AND IN HIM,
THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH
MUCH FRUIT:'

for without me
ye can do nothing.
6. "If a man abide not in me,
he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast (them) into The Fire,
and they are burned.
7. "If ye abide in me,
and my Words abide in you,
ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done
unto you.
8. "Herein is my Father Glorified,

'THAT YE BEAR MUCH FRUIT;'

so shall ye be my Disciples.
9. As the Father hath loved me,
so have I loved you:
continue ye in my Love.
10. "If ye keep my Commandments,
ye shall abide in my Love;
even as I have kept
my Father's Commandments,
and abide in his Love.
11. "These things
have I spoken unto you,
that my Joy might remain in you,
and that your Joy
might be full.
12. "This is my Commandment,

'THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER
AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.'

13. "Greater Love
hath no man than this,

'THAT A MAN
LAY DOWN HIS LIFE
FOR HIS FRIENDS.'

14. "Ye are my Friends,
if ye do whatsoever
I Command you.
15. "Henceforth I call you not Servants;
for the servant knoweth not
what his lord doeth:
but I have called you Friends;
for all things
that I have heard of my Father
I have made known
unto you."

There is NO SUCH THING AS "GRACE."

Anything you Pray for, or Command, you must EARN THE RIGHT TO RECEIVE.

"JESUS PAID IT ALL!" is a THEORY- which HE never preached, therefore it is NOT in The Gospel.

Can you pm me, I want to discuss something with you.

@op... I was expecting you to elucidate and emphasise also on verse 7 of John 15... nice points though.

wow... I'm surprised oaroloye said this... nice work Sir

SHALOM!

sonofthunder:
@op... I was expecting you to elucidate and emphasise also on verse 7 of John 15... nice points though.

SO, WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE FOR BEING USELESS?

SHALOM!

Wilgrea7:
wow... I'm surprised oaroloye said this... nice work Sir

How is this inconsistent with what I have written in the past?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



SO, WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE FOR BEING USELESS?

its your post, hence your vision. you fully know what you want to bring to birth in your readers...

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

There are people who were known believed to be strong-in-Faith in the past- but NOW their Faith can no longer do anything. the reasons for this are not obvious.

Fixed.

Please learn to be objective in your statements.

You don't know any strong-in-Faith who could do sh!t in the past.

Enough of these false claims.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Fixed.

Please learn to be objective in your statements.

You don't know any strong-in-Faith who could do sh!t in the past.

Enough of these false claims.

When you and your friends claim there is no God , I don't see you telling yourselves that you have to be objective and avoid making false claims .

There are millions of documented evidences supporting the efficacy of having Faith .

Faith in God is the best .

(4) DOUBT: this DOES NOT APPLY to people who have not only SEEN Miracles, but DONE THEM, too.

It is absurd to accuse such a person of "DOUBT!"

They have not merely DEFEATED that Enemy- they even did his Post Mortem, Embalming, and Funeral!

To get to THAT level, and be talking about "DOUBT" is like a BIRD forgetting how to FLY.

There is something very... awkward that happens about the time one gets to be very good in FAITH.

Something which NO CHRISTIAN since Ancient Times has EVER managed to overcome....

(5) THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD: this Revelation is UNIQUE. No other Chriistan alive has this Knowledge.

. 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro
throughout the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?”

. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised
the Day of Small Things?
For they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel
with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro
through the whole Earth.

. JOHN 14:1-27.

"LET not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
are many Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.
3. "And if I go
and prepare a Place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,

"Lord, we know not
whither thou goest;
and how can
we know The Way?"

6. Jesus saith unto him,

"I am The Way, The Truth,
and The Life:
no man cometh unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us The Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus saith unto him,

"Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
He that hath seen me
hath seen the Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me?
The words that I speak unto you
I speak not of myself:
but The Father that dwelleth in me,
He doeth the Works.
11. "Believe me
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;'

and Greater (Works) than these shall he do;
because I go unto my Father."
13. "And whatsoever ye shall
ask in my Name,
that will I do,
hat the Father may be Glorified
in the Son.
14. "If ye shall ask
any thing in my Name,
I will do it.
15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you another Comforter,
that He may abide with you for ever;
17. "Even the Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World cannot receive,
because it seeth him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you Comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World seeth me no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. At that day ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me, and I in you.
21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it that
thou wilt manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus answered and said unto him,

"If a man love me,
He will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's Which sent me.
25. “These things
have I spoken unto you,
being (yet) present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
(Which is) The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father
will send in My Name,
He shall Teach you All Things
and bring all things
to your Remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 “Peace I leave with you;
My Peace I give unto you,
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

. REVELATION 4:5.

5. And out of The Throne proceeded
Lightnings and Thunderings and Voices:
and there were seven Lamps of Fire
burning before The Throne,
Which are The seven Spirits of God.

. REVELATION 5:6.

6 And I beheld,
and, lo, in the midst of The Throne and of the Four Beasts,
and in the midst of the Elders,
stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven Horns and seven Eyes,
Which are the seven Spirits of God
sent forth into all the Earth.

IT IS A SHAME FOR ANY CHRISTIAN NOT TO KNOW ALL OF THESE SCRIPTURES OFF-HEAD.

In the pre-PENTECOSTAL Days, it was considered GOOD FORM to MEMORIZE The Bible.

During the Reign of the Atheist Idiots of the Soviet Era, IT WAS DEATH to be CAUGHT with a BIBLE.

It was WORSE than being caught smuggling COCAINE or HEROIN, to be caught with THE BIBLE in those countries.

[See: TORTURED FOR CHRIST, by Richard Wurmbrand.
GOD'S SMUGGLER, by Brother Andrew.]

Wicked Hypocrites complain when Scripture is quoted:

"Aww... Do we really need to read all THAT STUFF...?"

Only if you WANT to LIVE!

When you have any UNCLEAN SPIRITS IN YOU, you CANNOT FEEL COMFORTABLE hearing THE WORDS OF GOD in general, and those of LORD YAHSHUA IN PARTICULAR- especially when those Words are coming out of YOUR mouth!

"EVANGELIST" ORAL ROBERTS once prayed to know how he could know "Jesus."

He was answered:

"READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN, AND THE BOOK OF ACTS- THREE TIMES IN THIRTY DAYS!"

He did it ON HIS KNEES.

By the end of the thirty days, he knew Jesus better than any man on the Face of the Earth!

Unfortunately for HIM, that means that he had NO EXCUSE for the later STUPID BLUNDERS he committed in his later Ministry.

He built a UNIVERSITY and a HOSPITAL: both were FAILURES, as far as FAITH is concerned.

THE TULSA FOUR GREAT PREACHERS: Tommy Lee Osborn, Oral Roberts, Kenneth Copeland, and Kenneth Hagin SHOULD HAVE SAVED THE WORLD. But it didn't happen. They had followers who would have believed ANYTHING, and DONE anything they SUGGESTED.

But they NEVER taught people to LOVE JESUS.

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
(then) are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."

. JOHN 8:51-53.

51. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.'

52. Then said the Jews unto him,
"Now we know
that thou hast a Devil.
Abraham is dead,
and the Prophets;
and thou sayest,

'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER TASTE OF DEATH.'

53. "Art thou greater
than our father Abraham,
which is dead?
And the Prophets are dead:
whom makest thou thyself?"

. JOHN 14:15.

15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments."

IF A PERSON LOVES LORD YAHSHUA, THEY WILL KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS.

This will FORCE their minds to ASSEMBLE the MENTAL BUILDING-BLOCKS necessary to ASSEMBLE THE IMAGE OF THE TRUTH-THAT-MAKES-FREE in their minds.

Somehow, KENNETH COPELAND SPECIFICALLY, used ALL THE RIGHT WORDS- and yet LOVE OF GOD and YAHSHUA was NEVER the END RESULT. As a person who studied his Teachings extensively in those days, I am at a loss to explain what went wrong. I MYSELF HAD NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER, UNDERSTANDING HIS INSTRUCTIONS.

[See: WALKING IN THE REALM OF THE MIRACULOUS, by Kenneth Copeland.]

There should have been MILLIONS of FULL GOSPEL PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIANS who attained THE SAME REVELATION that I did. But there was not. Only me.

So I QUIT Organized Christianity.

What was I SUPPOSED to do: WAGE WAR on ALL of the OTHER CHURCHES?

I had NO IDEA why Christianity should have turned out the way it did.

Wasn't JESUS CO-EQUAL WITH GOD? Were they not OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, and OMNIPRESENT?

How then, could they let things go this far corrupt?

It is not until you realize that THERE IS NO SCRIPTURAL FOUNDATION to many supposedly essential Christian Beliefs that you will BEGIN AGAIN to LEARN THE TRUTH. Your eyes will only open when you REMOVE THE TRADITIONAL BARRIERS between YOU and THE WORD OF GOD that are used to CONTROL you, and KEEP YOU A PRISONER and a SLAVE.

If it does not seem COMPLETELY ABSURD to YOU, that GOD should be OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPRESENT, an OMNISCIENT- so that HE SEES and KNOWS every RAPE & MURDER on the Earth, even THOUSANDS OF YEARS before the "FACT," and that ALL HIS POWER IS TOTALLY USELESS to do ANYTHING to SAVE this girl, boy, baby, goat, or whatever- YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT, and there is NO WAY that I can TEACH you, while you BLASPHEMOUSLY ASCRIBE USELESS AND IMPOSSIBLE ATTRIBUTES TO GOD that HE DOES NOT HAVE, has NEVER CLAIMED to have, and has NEVER BEEN REPORTED TO HAVE USED!

Therefore, we have to ask: WHERE DID THE BELIEF IN THOSE ATTRIBUTES COME FROM?

The ycome from TRADITION OF MEN, not from GOD.

.. MARK 7:5-13.

5. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him,
"Why walk not thy Disciples
according to the Tradition of the Elders,
but eat bread with unwashen hands?"
6. He answered and said unto them,
"Well hath Esaias prophesied of you Hypocrites,
as it is written,

'THIS PEOPLE HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
7. 'HOWBEIT IN VAIN
DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.'

8. "For laying aside
The Commandment of God,
ye hold The Tradition of Men,
as the washing of pots and cups:
and many other such like things ye do."
9. And he said unto them,
"Full well ye reject The Commandment of God,
that ye may keep your own Tradition.
10. "For Moses said,

'HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;'

and,

'WHOSO CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER,
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH:'

11. "But ye say,
'If a man shall say to his father or mother,

"IT IS CORBAN,
THAT IS TO SAY,
A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST
BE PROFITED BY ME;"
HE SHALL BE FREE.'

12. "And ye suffer him no more to do ought
for his father or his mother;
13. "Making The Word of God of none effect
through your Tradition,
which ye have delivered:
and many such like things do ye."

GOD ONLY SEES THOSE PLACES ON THE EARTH WHERE HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE BEING ACTIVELY OBEYED.

His Seven Sprits actively SEEK such places.

His FORBEARANCE is for OUR PROTECTION.

If God were AWARE of ONGOING SIN, if He did not do anything about it, HE WOULD BE COMPLICIT.

When Yahweh God first ALLOWED HIMSELF to become aware of THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD, we got THE GREAT FLOOD.

That was His BEST SOLUTION to the Situation He PERCEIVED.

He created COVENANTS that RESTRICTED His NECESSARY ACTION on the Earth.

The SECOND Time He responded to the Sinfulness of the Earth, HE SENT HIS SON to lead Mankind OUT OF DARKNESS where HE COYULD NOT See us, into THE LIGHT.

You all know how well that worked out.

. JOHN 3:1-21.

THERE was a man of the Pharisees,
named Nicodemus, a Ruler of the Jews:
2. The same came to Jesus by night,
and said unto him,

"Rabbi, we know
that thou art a Teacher
come from God:
for no man can do
these Miracles that thou doest,
except God be with him."

3. Jesus answered and said unto him,

"Verily, verily, I say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN
BE BORN AGAIN,
HE CANNOT SEE
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'

4. Nicodemus saith unto him,

"How can a man be born
when he is old?
Can he enter the second time
into his mother's womb,
and be born?"

5. Jesus answered,
"Verily, verily, I say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN
OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT,
HE CAN NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'

6. "That which is Born of the Flesh is flesh;
and that which is Born of the Spirit is spirit.
7. "Marvel not that I said unto thee,

'YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.'

8. "The wind bloweth where it listeth,
and thou hearest the sound thereof,
but canst not tell whence it cometh,
and whither it goeth:
so is every one
that is Born of the Spirit."

9. Nicodemus answered
and said unto him,

"How can these things be?"

10. Jesus answered
and said unto him,

"Art thou a Master of Israel,
and knowest not these things?
11. "Verily, verily, I say unto thee,

'WE SPEAK THAT WE DO KNOW,
AND TESTIFY THAT WE HAVE SEEN;
AND YE RECEIVE NOT OUR WITNESS.'

12. "If I have told you Earthly Things,
and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe,
if I tell you of Heavenly Things?
13. "And no man hath ascended up to Heaven,
but he that came down from Heaven,
even the Son of Man which is in Heaven.
14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the Wilderness,
even so must The Son of Man
be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved the World,
that He gave His only Begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him
should not Perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not His Son
into the World to Condemn the World;
but that the World through him
might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth in him
is not Condemned:
but he that believeth not
is Condemned Already,
because he hath not believed in
The Name of The Only
Begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'

20. "For every one that doeth Evil
hateth The Light,
neither cometh to The Light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth
cometh to The Light,
that his deeds may be manifest,
that they are wrought in God."

THE LIGHT HAS ITS OWN UNEXPECTED PERILS.

At the time when one might think that they have earned the RIGHT-TO-RELAX, they find that THEY DON'T.

One now finds that one is EXPECTED, as a DUTY, to BUILD UPON THE FOUNDATION of FAITH, and LEAVE FAITH for SOMETHING BETTER- and THIS IS THE SECRET that the OYINBO GENIUS PHILOSPHERS and THEOLOGIANS were either NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH to FIGURE OUT themselves, or else THEY DELIBERATELY HID IT FROM THE WORLD, to PREVENT THEIR PRISONERS from ESCAPING THEIR CONTROL.

You take your pick which one, or neither, is THE TRUTH.

To help your QUALITY DECISION, let me reiterate what was GLOSSED-OVER above:

I BELIEVE, and I AM SAYING that THE GOSPEL OF YAHSHUA is that THOSE WHO LOVE HIM CAN NOT DIE, nor be KILLED- nor can DEATH FUNCTION in THEIR Presence.

KENNETH HAGIN called people who believed that "STUPID."

[See: MOUNTAIN-MOVING FAITH, by Kenneth E. Hagin.]

Which Judgment renders ALL His Ministry WORTHLESS, from THAT point on.

This is a man who testified of SEEING JESUS, and GOING TO HEAVEN WITH HIM, and MEETING GOD, and THE FOYR ANGELS!

If HE could not believe THE MANIFEST SONS OF GOD Doctrine, where can we possibly finfpd a HIGHER AUTHORITY than THAT on the Earth?

(I have to go to the Day Job, now. Perhaps by the time I arrive, one of you LAZY LOT will have answers?)

KingEbukasBlog:


When you and your friends claim there is no God , I don't see you telling yourselves that you have to objective and avoid making false claims .

There are millions of documented evidences supporting the efficacy of having Faith .

Faith in God is the best .

Do you know any gods?
If you do please prove them wrong.

Except you also agree Santa claus exists, dragons, and unicorns too because some ancient paper contains stories about them, then your position will be valid.

Otherwise stick to what you know, and do not depend on ancient manuscripts written by primitive men with lesser knowledge of the cosmos.

It's quite obvious that none of those outrageous claims in those books you call documents can be replicated. This thread was created in the the light of that observation.

SHALOM!

sonofthunder:

its your post, hence your vision. you fully know what you want to bring to birth in your readers...

If that is what you think, why say anything like that at all?

sonofthunder:
@op... I was expecting you to elucidate and emphasise also on verse 7 of John 15... nice points though.

If you know something, why don't you share it with everyone?

. PROVERBS 3:27-29.

27. Withhold not good from them to whom it is due,
when it is in the power of thine hand to do it.
28. Say not unto thy Neighbour,

“GO, AND COME AGAIN,
AND TO MORROW I WILL GIVE;”

when thou hast it by thee.
29. Devise not Evil against thy Neighbour,
seeing he dwelleth securely by thee.

. PROVERBS 27:17.

17. Iron sharpeneth iron;
so a man sharpeneth
the countenance of his friend.

. 1^st JOHN 3:14-24.

14. We know that we have passed from Death unto Life,
because we love The Brethren.
He that loveth not his brother abideth in Death.
15. Whosoever hateth his Brother is a Murderer:
and ye know that no murderer
hath Eternal Life abiding in him.
16. Hereby perceive we The Love of God,
because he laid down his life for us:
and we ought to lay down our lives for The Brethren.
17. But whoso hath this World's good,
and seeth his Brother have need,
and shutteth up his Bowels of Compassion from him,
how dwelleth The Love of God in him?
18. My Little Children, let us not love in word,
neither in tongue; but in Deed and in Truth.
19. And hereby we know that we are of The Truth,
and shall assure our hearts before him.
20. For if our heart condemn us,
God is greater than our heart,
and knoweth all things.
21. Beloved, if our heart condemn us not,
then have we confidence toward God.
22. And whatsoever we ask,
we receive of Him,
because we keep His Commandments,
and do those things
that are pleasing in His Sight.
23. And this is His Commandment,

“THAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE ON
THE NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST,
AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER,
AS HE GAVE US COMMANDMENT.”

24. And he that keepeth His Commandments
dwelleth in Him,
and He in him.

And hereby we know that He abideth in us,

"BY THE SPIRIT WHICH HE HATH GIVEN US."

WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE, THAT SOMETHING YOU KNOW, IS NOT NEEDED BY SOMEONE ELSE HERE, TO ADD TO WHATEVER ELSE GOD DELIVERED INTO HIS HAND, THAT HE WOULD ULTIMATELY USE TO SAVE YOUR LIFE- OR THAT OF SOMEONE IMPORTANT? (Sic.)

. ECCLESIASTES 9:13-16.

13. This Wisdom have I seen also
under the Sun,
and it (seemed) great unto me:
14. (There was) a little city,
and few men within it;
and there came a great king against it,
and besieged it,
and built great bulwarks against it:
15. Now there was found in it a poor wise man,
and he by his Wisdom delivered the city;
yet no man remembered that same poor man.
16. Then said I,

“WISDOM (IS) BETTER THAN STRENGTH:
NEVERTHELESS THE POOR MAN'S
WISDOM (IS) DESPISED,
AND HIS WORDS ARE NOT HEARD. "

Don't you know, that there was a POINT where ONE MAN, with THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE, delivered WITHIN THE RIGHT TIMEFRAME, could have TOTALLY-PREVENTED, say, BOKO HARAM? 9/11? The GULF WARS? But because SOMEONE was a PRIMA DONNA- a DICK- that Knowledge did not get transferred, a DOMINO EFFECT ensued, and the End Result was ALL OF THOSE DEATHS, and WASTE.

(My sub-unit boss is a GRADUATE- with a wife and kid- sharp brat! I asked his father: "You know DOMINOES?" I had to EXPLAIN to him what DOMINOES were, because he had NEVER even HEARD of them. He went through ALL the Schools- but had never heard of DOMINOES in his life! This was relevant, because we were handling potentially lethal materials, and by carelessly knocking over something harmless- say, a toilet roll, or a box of cover-slides- that could knock over one of the row of that material, which could knock over the next in the row, which could knock over the next in the row, and so on, until we have potentially-infectious URINE all over our laps! This is how a man named PATRICK SAWYER nearly KILLED US ALL in 2014- with his DICK! http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/170800-how-liberian-american-patrick-sawyer-deliberately-infected-our-staff-with-ebola-first-consultant-hospital.html . We HAD a case on-Campus, of a girl who came in contact with one of the people who was infected by that wicked idiot! We DID nearly ALL DIE!)

SHALOM!

ScepticalPyrrho:
Do you know any gods?
If you do please prove them wrong.

Except you also agree Santa claus exists, dragons, and unicorns too because some ancient paper contains stories about them, then your position will be valid.

Otherwise stick to what you know, and do not depend on ancient manuscripts written by primitive men with lesser knowledge of the cosmos.

It's quite obvious that none of those outrageous claims in those books you call documents can be replicated. This thread was created in the the light of that observation.

Thank you for your input.

If you have any legitimate inquries, please feel free to air them in a Thread of your own.

Otherwise get off my Post, and stop trying to derail other people's Topics.

. PROVERBS 26:4-5.

4. Answer not a fool according to his folly,
lest thou also be like unto him.
5. Answer a fool according to his folly,
lest he be wise in his own conceit.

The difference between MYTHS and Scripture is that Scripture tells you how to find God- and when you follow the instructions you FIND Him.

Whereas, if you stay up all night on December 24^th, you will never see SANTA CLAUS.

You will never find any evidence of Dragons or Unicorns in any of the places that stories claim that they are.

Many of the "gods" that are claimed to exist can actually be verified, because there are entities who have taken those guises, for their own purposes- which are consistent with the Biblical accounts of Devils and Deceiving Spirits.

You can sit at home, and do nothing, and claim evidence of anything doesn't exist.

I was making a point to some undergraduate friends, back in the 1990s... I just happened to mention that I know how to make explosives.

They were immediately interested, so I made a Black Powder Bomb.

I bought the ingredients on the street- all over-the-counter stuff.

We went into the bush beyond the hostel, and I detonated it.

They wanted to know how I knew all this.

Well, I did O-Level Chemistry! Why wouldn't I know how to make explosives? (Ironically, I scored C4 in WASC! Annnd that joke just went over many of your heads...!)

They were like: "Tunde- NOBODY knows how to do this!"

I was like: "That;s RIDICULOUS! All I did was read the textbooks and follow the instructions! WHAT?"

In Secondary School, I electrolyzed a Coke Bottle full of Hydrogen Gas.

"You're LYING!" said this bully.

"Why would I lie?" I asked, puzzled.

I ignited the bottle, and it made a foot-wide fireball, right there in front of everyone.

Later on, I got a message through fellow students from the bully, "BEGGING ME," to please NOT come and blow him up with a bomb!

This was the first time in my life that I ever experienced someone being AFRAID of ME!

I was like: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, "NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS?"

In England, where I was born, they have a CULTURE of "DO-IT-YOURSELF"- "DIY."

There are BOOKS on EVERYTHING from "HOW TO PATCH YOUR SOCKS" to "HOW TO SAIL A BOAT."

There was some KID- ARISTOTLE Something- he wrote a THESIS on "HOW TO BUILD AN ATOM BOMB."

The Government may have Classified his Paper. (His story was in the READER'S DIGEST.)

The point is that people like you have WEAK MINDS, that are incapable of CONCEPTUALIZING things they have NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

You cannot even understand STEP-BY-STEP Instructions- without someone showing you each step.

You cannot forsee the Negative Consequences of God doing things the way YOU SAY that they should be done.

You think that your Ethnic Group would even EXIST if God had given to EVERYONE the Knowledge YOU WANT for Him to have just carelessly distributed? Just because YOU were too weak-minded to FEAR GOD?

. PROVERBS 1:1-7.

7.THE Proverbs of Solomon
the son of David,
king of Israel;
2. To Know Wisdom and Instruction;
to perceive the Words of Understanding;
3. To receive the Instruction of Wisdom,
Justice, and Judgment, and Equity;
4. To give subtilty to the Simple,
to the Young Man Knowledge and Discretion.
5. A Wise man will hear,
and will increase learning;
and a Man of Understanding
shall attain unto Wise Counsels:
6. To understand a Proverb,
and the Interpretation;
the Words of The Wise,
and their Dark Sayings.
7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction.

KNOWLEDGE STARTS FROM THE FEAR OF GOD.

If you cannot have THAT who CARES what you die in ignorance of?

SHALOM!

THE REVELATION OF THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.

. 2^nd PETER 1:5-9.

5. And beside this, giving all diligence,
add to your Faith Virtue; and to virtue Knowledge;
6. And to knowledge Temperance;
and to temperance Patience; and to patience Godliness;
7. And to godliness Brotherly Kindness;
and to brotherly kindness Charity.
8. For if these things be in you, and abound,
they make you that ye shall neither be
barren nor unfruitful in The Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9. But he that lacketh these things is blind,
and cannot see afar off,
and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old Sins.

FAITH IS NOT A HEAVENLY POWER: IT IS AN EARTHLY POWER.

. 2^nd CORINTHIANS 5:7.

7. [For we walk by Faith, not by sight:]

. HEBREWS 11:1.

NOW Faith is the Substance of things hoped for,
the Evidence of things not seen.

IF WE NEED FAITH TO SEE, we cannot use FAITH any more, when we can SEE.

We will have SURPASSED Faith.

If we HAVE the EVIDENCE of things unseen, then we cannot use FAITH any more.

What is THE HIGHEST PRIORITY on the list of THINGS that we have to SEE?

(The Chronic inability to answer simple questions like THAT is why most of our "Full Gospel" Churches are a sick JOKE, right now!)

. 1^st JOHN 2:3-6.

3. And hereby we do know that we know him,

"IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS."

4. He that saith,

"I KNOW HIM,"

and keepeth not his Commandments,
is a liar,
and The Truth is not in him.

. 1^st JOHN 3:4-6.

4. Whosoever committeth Sin
transgresseth also The Law:
for Sin is the transgression of The Law.
5. And ye know that he was manifested
to take away our Sins;
and in him is no Sin.
6. Whosoever abideth in him Sinneth not:
whosoever Sinneth hath not seen him,
neither known him.

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,

"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you free."

. JOHN 14:1-9.

"LET not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House are many Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.
3. "And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,
"Lord, we know not whither thou goest;
and how can we know The Way?"

6. Jesus saith unto him,

"I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have Known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye Know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us The Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus saith unto him,

"Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
he that hath seen me hath seen The Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?' "

Those who OBEY LORD YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS will ACCUMULATE SPIRITUAL ENERGY, and as REHABILITATE the TEN TALENTS to the extent that TOTAL RECALL and EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION come back on line.

. PSALM 119:11.

11. Thy Word have I hid in mine heart,
that I might not Sin against Thee.

SIN BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE WHEN YOU ALWAYS REMEMBER WHAT GOD SAID ABOUT ANY TEMPTATION YOU MIGHT FACE.

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

"JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THINE EYE;'

and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."

WHEN YOU HAVE CLEARED THE "BEAM" OUT OF YOUR EYE- THE ASPECTS OF YOUR EXISTENCE YOU REFUSE TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR- SINS AND FAILINGS- YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PERCEIVE BEYOND PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS. 360,^O POOR LIGHT, DISTANCE, OBSCURE CONDITIONS, WALLS- these things become IRRELEVANT factors: you SEE whatever you NEED to see.

However, this is only the beginning.

There are lots of things to perceive in the Spiritual Realm, before you are ready to perceive GOD directly!

The FOOLS think that they will just go barging into God's Presence, and say:

"WHY DID YOU MAKE IT SO HARD FOR US TO FIND YOU?"

The various hardships of approaching God will render that question nonsensical.

RICHARD DAWKINS is a FOOL, who thinks that his 55years of age (when he published THE GOD DELUSION,) should make him the equal or superior of ABRAHAM, when he left UR, at God's Command, at age 70, or when GOD appeared to him at age 99 to tell him that he was giving him a son, or at age 112 or so, when he received the Command to Slay Isaac.

RICHARD DAWKINS fancied himself the superior of a man old enough to be his grandfather, when he began his career of worshipping God as a Nomad. Many other stupid Atheists do not have Richard Dawkin's impressive intellectual credentials, amking them even more stupid than he.

. MATTHEW 9:16-17.

16. "No man putteth a piece of new cloth
unto an old garment,
for that which is put in to fill it up
taketh from the garment,
and the rent is made worse.
17. "Neither do men put new wine into old bottles:
else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out,
and the bottles perish:
but they put new wine into new bottles,
and both are preserved."

CONFRONTING THE SPIRITUAL WITH THE WRONG ATTITUDES AND IDEAS CAN INJURE OR KILL YOU.

ATHEISTS PROUDLY DECLARE:

"I went to a PENTECOSTAL CHURCH, and DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING SUPERNATURAL- as expected!"

These FOOLS do not know how LUCKY they were!

The manifestation of a Spiritual Entity could totally unhinge all the hinges of their minds- they could LOSE the Will-t0-Live altogether.

They could go INSANE. They could DIE. They could become POSSESSED.

To be able to WITHSTAND a Spiritual Entity takes either enormous LUCK, or else enormous PREPARATION.

Despite all of the Biblical WARNINGS, the Atheist believes that they can just barge in, as if the Spirit Beings- who have been around for thousands of years, even- were just their MATES. They are like: "WHAT can YOU POSSIBLY do to ME?"

The BIGGEST FOOLS EVER are the AFRICANS who follow EUROPEANS in reviling and Blaspheming GOD and gods!

. DEUTERONOMY 22:10.

10. Thou shalt not plough
with an ox and an ass together.

THE OYINBOS have THE BEST of PSYCHIATRIC and MEDICAL CARE, if one of their own gets his HEAD bitten orf (sic) by some DEMON SPIRIT.

Everything stupid that it is possible to do with Spirit Beings- trust me on this- Oyinbos have DONE it, and devised TREATMENTS for it.

Pull that sort of shit HERE, and they will have NO IDEA what do do about you- except inject you with something, and stick you in a WARD- until your MONEY runs out.

When someone like RICHARD DAWKINS blasphemes God so pompously and bravely- how many pharmaceuticals are doing the talking?

You think NONE? I suspect SEVERAL!

What if a Spirit Being manifested to an Atheist, exactly what are they going to do with it?

Ask it some silly questions, surely.

If a Spirit Being manifested to a CHRISTIAN, we are SUPPOSED to ask it whether or not JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH.

. 1^st JOHN 4:1-4.

BELOVED, believe not every spirit,
but try the spirits whether they are of God:
because many False Prophets
are gone out into the World.
2. Hereby know ye The Spirit of God:

"EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH THAT
'JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH'
IS OF GOD:"

3. And every Spirit that confesseth not that

"JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH"

is not of God:
and this is that Spirit of AntiChrist,
whereof ye have heard that it should come;
and even now already is it in the World.
4. Ye are of God, Little Children,
and have overcome them:
because greater is He that is in you,
than he that is in the World.

I have NEVER heard of a "CHRISTIAN VISION" where "JESUS," "GOD," "ANGELS," or whatever manifested to them, and THEY WERE ASKED to CONFESS that "Yahshua HaMishiach is come in the flesh!" It was like THEY DIDN'T EVEN CARE about THAT!

A VISION TESTIMONY is LITERALLY worth the testifier's weight in GOLD: why should they try to abort their personal Meal-Ticket?

. GENESIS 3:22-24.

22. And The LORD God said,

"Behold, the Man is become as one of Us,
to know Good and Evil:
and now, lest he put forth his hand,
and take also of The Tree of Life,
and eat,
and live for ever:”

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT (IS) WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL
(IS) UNDERSTANDING.' "


. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast may break them.
16. "She is hardened against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth the horse and his rider."

THE MINIMUM ENTRY REQUIREMENT INTO THE SEVEN HEAVEN REALMS (SHAMAYYIM,) IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.

If you DON'T have the SPIRITUAL POWER LEVEL required to ENTER a Heaven Realm, you cannot get in at all.

This Power is BEYOND FAITH.

If you cannot handle FAITH, you cannot handle THIS, either.

It is a matter of SPIRITUAL POWER.

The greatest FAITH- the ability to FLING MOUNTAINS- is a NON-STARTER in Heaven.

It could not believe move a DUST MOTE, there.

It could not operate any of your SENSES, nor your ability to THINK and REASON.

If a person with HEAVENLY Spirit Energy should come in contact with someone having only EARTHLY Spirit Energy, we should EXPECT the Earthly person to be rendered UNCONSCIOUS, instantly, and even PARALYZED Even because their BODY cannot operate- or is not used to operating in this Power Field.

Therefore, if a person does enter into this Heavenly Level of Operation, THEY HAVE TO START OVER FROM INFANCY, STEP-BY-STEP!

. MATTHEW 18:1-14.

AT the same time came the Disciples unto Jesus,
saying,

"Who is the greatest
in the Kingdom of Heaven?"

2. And Jesus called a little child unto him,
and set him in the midst of them,
3. And said,

"Verily I say unto you,

'EXCEPT YE BE CONVERTED,
AND BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN,
YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'

4. "Whosoever therefore shall humble himself
as this little child,
the same is greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
5. "And whoso shall receive
one such little child in my Name
receiveth me.
6. "But whoso shall offend
one of these Little Ones
which believe in me,
it were better for him
that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and that he were drowned
in the Depth of the Sea.

7. "Woe unto the World
because of offences!
For it must needs be
that offences come;
but woe to that man
by whom the offence cometh!
8. "Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot
offend thee,
cut them off,
and cast them from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into life halt or maimed,
rather than having
two hands or two feet
to be cast into Everlasting Fire.
9. "And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out,
and cast it from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into Life with one eye,
rather than having two eyes
to be cast into Hell Fire.
10. "Take heed that ye despise not
one of these little ones;
for I say unto you,

'THAT IN HEAVEN THEIR ANGELS
DO ALWAYS BEHOLD THE FACE
OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'

11. "For The Son of Man is come
to Save that which was lost.
12. "How think ye?
If a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
13. And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,

'HE REJOICETH MORE OF THAT SHEEP,
THAN OF THE NINETY AND NINE
WHICH WENT NOT ASTRAY.'

14. "Even so it is not
The Will of your Father
Which is in Heaven,
that one of these little ones
should perish."

ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND POWER THAT WAS GAINED BENEATH THAT HEAVEN REALM IS NOW USELESS AND WORTHLESS.

The NEWLY-CONVERTED- passing from a Lower into a Higher Heavenly Level of Operation is a CONVERSION Process- have to BEGIN AGAIN, learning to attain ADULTHOOD! This is NEVER mentioned in ANY Church. No one else KNOWS this.

But THIS would be what CUTS the POWER of a Christian who has CROSSED that Power Threshold.

They are like someone who is DYING OF THIRST in a DESERT- whereas they HAVE a SEALED TANK of ICED fruit juice on their back!

There is NOTHING FUNNY about DYING like that.

oaroloye:
(4) DOUBT: this DOES NOT APPLY to people who have not only SEEN Miracles, but DONE THEM, too.

It is absurd to accuse such a person of "DOUBT! To get to THAT level, and be talking about "DOUBT" is like a BIRD forgetting how to FLY.
There is something very... awkward that happens about the time one gets to be very good in FAITH. Something which NO CHRISTIAN since Ancient Times has EVER managed to overcome....

(5) THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD: this Revelation is UNIQUE. No other Chriistan alive has this Knowledge.

Be careful Bronchitis Oaroloye, because your delusional interpretations of the holy scriptures, especially the Gospels may end the way the Snake Pastors ministry is ending. Do you remember the controversial pastor who made his congregants eat snakes? Well, he is back in the spotlight.

Pictures have surfaced of Pastor Penuel Mnguni driving a car over people on social media, according to ENCA. According to a Facebook post, Mnguni told two members of his church to lie down on the ground, and he then drove a car over them.
The two were then told to wake up while the car was on their bodies. They later joined the congregation, dancing and praising.

This reminds me of your master L.Ron Hubbard who uses the young girls of his church for sex-orgies on the alter of his church. His own son, Ron DeWolf exposed his dads evil, He said that his dad the founder of Criminal Scientology would invite him to join in with 4 to 5 innocent young church girls and have violent sex-orgies at the Alter of The Church Of Criminal Scientology while loudly shout out to Lucifer.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



If that is what you think, why say anything like that at all?



If you know something, why don't you share it with everyone?

. PROVERBS 3:27-29.

27. Withhold not good from them to whom it is due,
when it is in the power of thine hand to do it.
28. Say not unto thy Neighbour,

“GO, AND COME AGAIN,
AND TO MORROW I WILL GIVE;”

when thou hast it by thee.
29. Devise not Evil against thy Neighbour,
seeing he dwelleth securely by thee.

. PROVERBS 27:17.

17. Iron sharpeneth iron;
so a man sharpeneth
the countenance of his friend.

. 1^st JOHN 3:14-24.

14. We know that we have passed from Death unto Life,
because we love The Brethren.
He that loveth not his brother abideth in Death.
15. Whosoever hateth his Brother is a Murderer:
and ye know that no murderer
hath Eternal Life abiding in him.
16. Hereby perceive we The Love of God,
because he laid down his life for us:
and we ought to lay down our lives for The Brethren.
17. But whoso hath this World's good,
and seeth his Brother have need,
and shutteth up his Bowels of Compassion from him,
how dwelleth The Love of God in him?
18. My Little Children, let us not love in word,
neither in tongue; but in Deed and in Truth.
19. And hereby we know that we are of The Truth,
and shall assure our hearts before him.
20. For if our heart condemn us,
God is greater than our heart,
and knoweth all things.
21. Beloved, if our heart condemn us not,
then have we confidence toward God.
22. And whatsoever we ask,
we receive of Him,
because we keep His Commandments,
and do those things
that are pleasing in His Sight.
23. And this is His Commandment,

“THAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE ON
THE NAME OF HIS SON JESUS CHRIST,
AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER,
AS HE GAVE US COMMANDMENT.”

24. And he that keepeth His Commandments
dwelleth in Him,
and He in him.

And hereby we know that He abideth in us,

"BY THE SPIRIT WHICH HE HATH GIVEN US."

WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE, THAT SOMETHING YOU KNOW, IS NOT NEEDED BY SOMEONE ELSE HERE, TO ADD TO WHATEVER ELSE GOD DELIVERED INTO HIS HAND, THAT HE WOULD ULTIMATELY USE TO SAVE YOUR LIFE- OR THAT OF SOMEONE IMPORTANT? (Sic.)

. ECCLESIASTES 9:13-16.

13. This Wisdom have I seen also
under the Sun,
and it (seemed) great unto me:
14. (There was) a little city,
and few men within it;
and there came a great king against it,
and besieged it,
and built great bulwarks against it:
15. Now there was found in it a poor wise man,
and he by his Wisdom delivered the city;
yet no man remembered that same poor man.
16. Then said I,

“WISDOM (IS) BETTER THAN STRENGTH:
NEVERTHELESS THE POOR MAN'S
WISDOM (IS) DESPISED,
AND HIS WORDS ARE NOT HEARD. "

Don't you know, that there was a POINT where ONE MAN, with THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE, delivered WITHIN THE RIGHT TIMEFRAME, could have TOTALLY-PREVENTED, say, BOKO HARAM? 9/11? The GULF WARS? But because SOMEONE was a PRIMA DONNA- a DICK- that Knowledge did not get transferred, a DOMINO EFFECT ensued, and the End Result was ALL OF THOSE DEATHS, and WASTE.

(My sub-unit boss is a GRADUATE- with a wife and kid- sharp brat! I asked his father: "You know DOMINOES?" I had to EXPLAIN to him what DOMINOES were, because he had NEVER even HEARD of them. He went through ALL the Schools- but had never heard of DOMINOES in his life! This was relevant, because we were handling potentially lethal materials, and by carelessly knocking over something harmless- say, a toilet roll, or a box of cover-slides- that could knock over one of the row of that material, which could knock over the next in the row, which could knock over the next in the row, and so on, until we have potentially-infectious URINE all over our laps! This is how a man named PATRICK SAWYER nearly KILLED US ALL in 2014- with his DICK! http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/170800-how-liberian-american-patrick-sawyer-deliberately-infected-our-staff-with-ebola-first-consultant-hospital.html . We HAD a case on-Campus, of a girl who came in contact with one of the people who was infected by that wicked idiot! We DID nearly ALL DIE!)

okay

I gained a lot from the op

Oaroloye can you please explain further to my own understanding when you say, "there's no such thing as grace"? Please come down to my level I beg and please don't make it lengthy because I'm still trying to go through all the posts here.

This is a humble request and I also have to learn how to go through your posts to the end. Thank you in advance

bennyann:
I gained a lot from the op

Oaroloye can you please explain further to my own understanding when you say, "there's no such thing as grace"? Please come down to my level I beg and please don't make it lengthy because I'm still trying to go through all the posts here.

This is a humble request and I also have to learn how to go through your posts to the end. Thank you in advance

'seconded'

SHALOM!

bennyann:
I gained a lot from the op

Oaroloye can you please explain further to my own understanding when you say, "there's no such thing as grace"?

EVERYTHING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT TALKING ABOUT "GRACE" IS A LIE: END OF STORY.

Please come down to my level I beg and please don't make it lengthy because I'm still trying to go through all the posts here.

INVEST IN A PRINTER, PRINT OUT THESE POSTS, AND STUDY THEM.

If you cannot afford to do that, join with NINE BRETHREN, and CONTRIBUTE MONEY TOGETHER, and BUY A PRINTER.

If you have no friends who can help you, you have the wrong friends.

This is a BIG PROBLEM that has STOOD for 2,000 years.

How DARE anyone tell me to SOLVE IT FOR US- BUT BE BRIEF!

You want "BRIEF?" HERE'S "brief:"

"YAHSHUA IS LORD; NOT PAUL!"

This is a humble request and I also have to learn how to go through your posts to the end. Thank you in advance

YOU THINK THIS IS "HUMBLE?"

Please come down to my level I beg and please don't make it lengthy because I'm still trying to go through all the posts here.

MOSES DELIVERED THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL FROM EGYPT.

GOD came down from Heaven to dictate His Law in person.

By the time He got to His TENTH COMMANDMENT, the people had run away in terror.

So, THE ELDERS met with Moses, and it was agreed that GOD should SPEAK THROUGH INTERMEDIARIES- and they would OBEY.

MOSES went up Mount Sinai to receive the rest of The Law from God.

He spent FORTY DAYS and FORTY NIGHTS with Him.

By then, the ELDERS DECIDED Moses must have DIED or something, and decided that they wanted. IDOLS to lead them.

The IDOLS hadn't done DICK for them, while they were in Egypt- but THEY WANTED TO GIVE ALL THE CREDIT for their Derliversnce to this GOLDEN CALF IDOL!

1,300 years later, LORD YAHSHUA spent 3 1/2 years teaching his Disciples HIS LAW, then was TORTURED TO DEATH FIR US ALL- then he RESURRECTED FROM THE DEAD, and COMMANDED HIS DISCIPLES to TEACH HIS TEACHINGS TO THE WHOLE WORLD.

After his Ascension, his Disciples decided NOT to do what their Lord Commanded, but MAKE UP THEIR OWN LAWS, to suit themselves. NONE OF THEM WANTED TO TEACH THE GENTILES, so, when PAUL offered to do it, they LET HIM.

THEY KNEW his Teachings were ALL FAKE, but DIDN'T CARE that he was DESTROYING THEIR COMPETITION.

TWENTY CENTURIES OF CHRISTIANS IGNORED THE LORD WHO SUFFERED FOR US, AND EMBRACED PAUL- WHO HAD MURDERED EVERY CHRISTIAN who had TRIED to SPREAD The TRUE Gospel- and ADOPTED HIS NON-FUNCTIONAL FAKE GOSPEL!

Don't give me any BULLSHIT about not understanding what I mean, when I say "YOU MUST OBEY LORD YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS!" There is NO WAYgo misunderstand THAT.

ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?

No!

If you WERE, you would have SAID so.

ARE YOU A MEMBER OF A CHURCH?

Probably.

But it will be one of the USELESS ones.

WHAT IS "YOUR LEVEL?"

You probably consider yourself to be "BORN AGAIN," because of an INSINCERE Prayer someone told you to pray some time.

You might even consider yourself "BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST- with the "evidence" of GABBLING!"

Those Oyinbo Hypocrite-taught Experiences are WORTHLESS- leaving you Spiritually IGNORANT!

When one looks closely at the SCOAN Church worshipers, into their joy filled eyes and observe their total relaxed body countenance as they sing and dance their praises, to honor the TRUTH about the mighty Jesus Christ which they have seen repeatedly and POWERFULLY demonstrated to them. They dance with a joy, not as the world can give !

Many of these blessed worshipers are extremely credible EYE WITNESSES and grateful recipients of the mighty WORKS that only the mighty Jesus Christ can do in their lives. Truly God is alive in the proper PRAISE and WORSHIP of His Son Jesus. They now praise from the depths of their hearts for what they have experienced in what they know as "The arena of liberty."

The mind-blowing experiences in the holy SCOAN is exactly what Jesus achieved and for clarity he said, "Joh 5:36 But I have a greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to do, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me."

There you have it !!! From Jesus himself ! He is saying that the preaching of John, the most powerful witness for the coming of Christ is nothing in comparison to the WORKS/ MIRACLES. Joh 5:36 That why Jesus clearly emphasized that the MIRACLES that He do, bear the most effective witness for Him that God sent him.

Why would FAKE pastors insist that their motivational SPEECHES are all that is needed ?

Then Jesus continues to explain what effect the WORKS/ MIRACLES will have on those that witness it.
Joh 5:23 That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who has sent him.

Oaroloye, I'm sorry oo, so so sorry. Please forgive me if you think I meant harm. I only forgot you made that statement because you were against Paul and believe me it's just recently I got to know your kind of gospel and I will try not to ask questions again since it seems anyone who ask is either trying to harm you or is simply ignorant.

But do you know the Paul you despise so much is the same person you're mimicking when it comes to pride, authorititative speech and the rest. The difference is just that in His pride, He tried to do all that please Jesus.

Try not to insult anyone especially those who haven't insulted you simply because they're ignorant to you. If it's Jesus you adore that much compared to me that doesn't hate Paul, then it's expected your words reflect the qualities of Jesus more than mine.

Everything is playing out like you only hate Paul because you wish you took his place in the Bible and even now you yearn to take his kind of glory. But He earned it Mister. Whatever you criticize Paul of, check all you do here on nairaland and compare which one of you is closer to Jesus

You're trying to stand out in your writings, Paul stood out in His, especially for the gentiles but in all these He did for the glory of God.

If Paul is your problem, I don't understand how you will demean those who call themselves Christians because they believe in Jesus first of all and most importantly, then before they take Paul as His Apostle. If you love Jesus, you will know how to communicate with those who love Him also.

* dont demean or despise Christians because you hate Paul. Christians are followers of Christ and not Paul. The more you fight against such Christians who takes Paul as Christ's Apostle, the more you prove Paul is your God because all in your head is Paul and not Jesus. All in your heart is fighting against Paul, that's all you can think of when it comes to Christianity. Then Paul is your Idol, he is someone you're in a competition with. all the Christians you fight don't hold Paul in high esteem and with strong passion like you do so you better watch it*

I may be ignorant but be careful brother not to take your eyes of Jesus simply because you despise Paul. No matter the knowledge you think you posses, they cannot stand where love is. If you don't have love, you have nothing.

Please do have a nice day. And don't worry, you won't see me here even if you throw defaming words at me.

And your mode of approach won't stop me from putting into practice the little I've learnt from your OP. If there's any other post of yours that contains qualities to adopt to be a better me for Jesus, I wouldn't hesitate at all.

Happy Sunday

Because faith is the biggest con

Happy sunday all

Scam!!!

The true test of faith is patience ! U can ask Abraham , Joseph , job , Moses this are people who endured to the end why holding on to the promises of God... Faith is faith no such thin as strong faith .. Faith is the ability to trust in God even when we don't see a way through ..

KingEbukasBlog:
When you and your friends claim there is no God , I don't see you telling yourselves that you have to objective and avoid making false claims .

There are millions of documented evidences supporting the efficacy of having Faith .

Faith in God is the best .

Everyone has faith in one or more things and people, including God who is a permanent feature of any society irrespective of how "primitive" others may perceive them to be.
If in doubt, read Paul's sermon in Athens and the conversation that Jesus Christ had with the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4.
Shalom!
Salam!!
Peace!!!

God give us more wisdom and understanding to know you and to fear you

Your faith stops working when you stop working with faith.

"the reason your faith no longer works"
??

That is not a reasonable sentence construction. |It's like saying "the reason your jump no longer jumps"

Faith works.
If its not working, then its no faith in the first place.
You'r probably trying to say
.... "the reason your hope no longer works"
or
... "the reason your hope no longer leads to faith".

Faith works any day,anytime and anywhere irrespective of the carrier.

But here is an addition which is doubting God's Word causing us to sin and making his Word not finding expression in our lives.

"And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin".
Romans 14:23

Jesus Christ and Paul Christ.

OP, you cannot discredit Paul, Jesus and Paul are one.