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The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Mekusxyz: 9:52pm On Jan 20, 2010
Na waoh!

Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Mekusxyz: 9:55pm On Jan 20, 2010
Time to separate is now grin grin grin
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by aahmed112: 9:56pm On Jan 20, 2010
are we human beings in this country? angry
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Ibime(m): 10:01pm On Jan 20, 2010
Shocking. . . . Gruesome. . . .

This is not a country. . . .
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by otokx(m): 10:14pm On Jan 20, 2010
Are these pictures really valid?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by asha80(m): 10:17pm On Jan 20, 2010
otokx:

Are these pictures really valid?

The first one by mekus is valid but the second pic by aahmed is not because i have seen that pic sometime in the long past.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by aahmed112: 10:22pm On Jan 20, 2010
Is it? My apologies if so. Facebook group posted it.

Ill take it down
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by asha80(m): 10:24pm On Jan 20, 2010
aahmed112:

Is it? My apologies if so. Facebook group posted it.

Ill take it down


yea it is old.i have seen it here on nairaland sometime last year.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by WilyWily7: 10:30pm On Jan 20, 2010
Look at Islam,
I said it before and will continue saying it, Satan sent Mohammed to cause trouble on earth through Islam.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by ezeagu(m): 10:36pm On Jan 20, 2010
So this is the Nigeria of 2010?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Ellyptical: 10:54pm On Jan 20, 2010
L+G,
After seeing this, some cold-blooded individuals will still argue and hesitate when you talk about separating the country to avoid the mixture of Muslims and Christians. The idea of secession will ultimately save lives and make every fraction gear up to make sure that no one outshines the other.
I still maintain my stand. Secession may not solve the problem of corruption, but it will definitely solve the problem of incessant loss of lives and properties . . which is the ultimate thing.
If Nigeria is divided
1) Christians will have no business going to the North for NYSC only to be killed by the people you came to 'serve'.
2) Christians working in institution will not get transferred to the north because the South and the North will be two separate countries.

Food for thought.

NB: After this post, we will still see some shallow-minded people argue against dividing the nation . . .watch and see.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by otawa: 11:01pm On Jan 20, 2010
It is a never-end-cycle!

who is going to stand-up and break this?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by PapaBrowne(m): 11:19pm On Jan 20, 2010
otokx:

Are these pictures really valid?
No they are not! They are pictures from a movie scene directed by Otokx!!

We need to start breaking up this country fast!!

On a second thought, in the event of a break up, would Jos and other Northern Christian states like Taraba, Benue etc be a part of Southern Nigeria?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Nobody: 11:24pm On Jan 20, 2010
Still can't believe people can take up arms and kill their fellow man. Where did conscience go to? undecided
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by tayoast(m): 11:35pm On Jan 20, 2010
wat kinda pple fights in d name of religions?? wat do they intend 2 accomplish??

@ d end of d day, we won't know hw d whole crisis came abt. all we set-up is panels & committees. No outcomes!!
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Onlytruth(m): 11:45pm On Jan 20, 2010
Wily*Wily:

Look at Islam,
I said it before and will continue saying it, Satan sent Mohammed to cause trouble on earth through Islam.


Hmm, I remember the parable of the farmer and his farm by Jesus in the bible. A farmer sowed some wheat in his farm. While men slept at night, the enemy came in and sowed the weeds. When everything grew up, they all looked similar!
So, the laborers asked the farmer whether they should go in and uproot the weeds, the farmer said no. He said that in the process of uprooting the weeds,they may mistakenly uproot the wheat. So he charged them to leave both on the farm until harvest, when the wheat will be harvested first and stored in the barnyard, while the weeds will be gathered and burnt.
I don't want to believe that Islam is that weed, but the fruits has been largely destruction and wars.
Islam came to this earth about 600 years after Jesus. We have never known peace since then!
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by edoyad(m): 12:05am On Jan 21, 2010
@papabrowne nice question. Usually in a secession a referendum is held to iron out the modalities just like the one that will be held in South Sudan later on in the year. Personally i don't believe breaking Nigeria into only 2 or 3 countries will resolve all outstanding issues but it would atleast be a start.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Onlytruth(m): 3:38am On Jan 21, 2010
edoyad:

@papabrowne nice question. Usually in a secession a referendum is held to iron out the modalities just like the one that will be held in South Sudan later on in the year. Personally i don't believe breaking Nigeria into only 2 or 3 countries will resolve all outstanding issues but it would atleast be a start.

Nigeria today is not working because the country shares no common sets of values and beliefs across the length and breadth of the country. My set of values as an Easterner (and I mean all easterners now -enugu, anambra, imo, abia, cross-rivers, akwa ibom, ebonyi, rivers, bayelsa and parts of delta) forbids me attacking and killing foreigners in my land unless under a very extreme sets of circumstances like retaliations. In times of crisis, these foreigners are secured first because we believe that any harm done to them would create enmity between us and their home tribes or nations. Islamic northern Nigeria does not share those values hence the constant killings in the north. Killing of foreigners without provocation happened in the north in 1940s. It is still happening today (an eye-popping 60 years after! shocked)

I no longer believe in a southern Nigeria which yoke Igbo and Yoruba into one nation. It just can't work. Middle belters who want to form a nation with Igbo and other easterners are welcome provided they agree that every child under 18 must be in school. Just my view.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by darkman200: 3:56am On Jan 21, 2010
The earlier the country break up the better for the future generation, i don't know why some people are working hard to keep this failed entity together, Its only a matter of time before the inevitable. However i hope it would be achieved amicably,
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by adconline(m): 4:02am On Jan 21, 2010
Who says Nigeria does not habour terrorists?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Nobody: 9:00am On Jan 21, 2010
darkman200:

The earlier the country break up the better for the future generation, i don't know why some people are working hard to keep this failed entity together, Its only a matter of time before the inevitable. However i hope it would be achieved amicably,

Does anyone have an idea on how we can push for a referendom on peaceful dis-amalgamation of Nigeria?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by FBS: 9:05am On Jan 21, 2010
shocked
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Mekusxyz: 5:54pm On Jan 21, 2010
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Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Mekusxyz: 6:01pm On Jan 21, 2010
Jos crisis spreads to neighbouring town
By Adetutu Folasade-Koyi, Chesa Chesa (Abuja), Paul Arhewe (Lagos) and Onoja Audu (Jos)

• Death toll nears 300


• FEC backs Jonathan on troops deployment

• Senate Rejects State Of Emergency

Death toll in the latest religious violence in Jos rose to about 300 on Wednesday, as the riot spread to the neighbouring town of Pankshin, about 100 kilometres from the Tin City.


The Federal Executive Council (FEC) met in Abuja and backed Vice President Goodluck Jonathan on the measures he has taken to contain the bloodshed.


Scores have died and properties worth millions of Naira have been destroyed since it began on January 17, and Jonathan ordered more troops deployment on Tuesday and directed the military and the police to stop the madness.


A FEC meeting he chaired at the Villa in Abuja reviewed the situation and expressed sympathy for the victims.


The FEC “is greatly concerned and disturbed about the crisis in Jos,” Minister of State for Information, Ikra Bilbis, told reporters, adding that President Umaru Yar’Adua has been informed of measures taken in his absence.


“Do not forget that (Jonathan) is acting on his behalf, and I assure you, Mr. President is being briefed on whatever is happening here.


“The Council expresses its deep sympathy to all those who lost their loved ones and property in the crisis and promises that the government will do all in its powers to ensure that lives and properties are protected,” Bilbis added.


Jonathan held another security meeting with heads of security agencies and the Chief of Defence Staff, Air Marshall Paul Dike, to review the measures taken so far.


It ended without an official statement, and the participants did not speak to the press.


Inspector General of Police, Ogbonna Onovo, now in Jos on the orders of Jonathan, described the damage as ``substantial’’ after he inspected the ruins at the flashpoints.


He said it is unfortunate the crisis took place at all, but took consolation in the timely deployment of police and soldiers who contained it.


The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reported that Onovo visited Congo-Russia, Dutse Uku, Bukuru, Rikkos, Nasarawa Gwom, and Bisichi which have turned into battlefields since Sunday, with fires still smouldering in some areas.


He said the rioters have vanished because of the effective security measures in place, and that he would direct investigation of claims that men in Army uniform unleashed terror on people.


More troops in two lorry loads arrived Jos on Wednesday.


However, a resident of Pankshin told the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) by telephone that fighting there began at 2130 GMT (10.30 p.m. Nigerian time) on Tuesday, and had continued into Wednesday morning but no soldiers could be seen on the streets.


Another family said they had fled Pankshin to neighbouring Bauchi State to escape the violence, even though troops commander, Lt Col Shekari Galadima said Jos is “very calm” as the Army is enforcing a 24-hour curfew.


He insisted there would be no more riots.


Religious officials confirmed that at least 265 people have died since Sunday, including 65 Christians and 200 Muslims.

Muhammad Tanko Shittu, a senior mosque official organising mass burials, gave a much higher death toll – telling Reuters more than 350 Muslims have died.


Galadima told the BBC’s Network Africa programme that Jos “has been brought under control tremendously”.


The Associated Press (AP) reported that soldiers with machine guns patrol in pick-up trucks and residents are stopping and raising their hands to show they are not a threat as the trucks pass.


The Red Cross, which was unable to get into Jos on Tuesday, said its workers had begun to treat the wounded.


And at least 5,000 people have fled the violence and are using army barracks and public buildings as temporary accommodation.


Shamaki Gad of the League for Human Rights, which is based in Jos, said people have little faith in the security forces to restore order, because no one has been prosecuted for participating in previous religious and ethnic clashes.


However, the Chief of Army Staff, Lt General Abdulraman Danbazau also led Army officers to Jos to take stock, as directed by Jonathan.


He visited displaced persons in refugee camps and promised that the Army would provide them water and medicals.


Danbazau admitted that five suspects who were caught wearing fake Army uniforms are in custody, but added that one of them identified himself as genuine police personnel.


He assured that the police are doing everything humanly possible to restore law and order.


But Governor Jonah Jang expressed worry about the existence of fake soldiers spotted in Jos and Bukuru.


In Abuja, the Senate urged the security agencies to restore normalcy as soon as possible.


Leading debate on a motion sponsored by all the three Senators from Plateau State, Gyang Dantong expressed worry that the “violence has left in its trail the destruction of places of worship, properties worth millions of Naira and the loss of no fewer than 190 persons with many others injured.”


Niger Delta Committee Chairman, James Manager, urged the Chamber to go beyond mere debate of the motion and take action.


“The Plateau is on fire again. There’s a problem. We have always debated the plateau crisis in this Senate and what has become of that intervention?


“What has become of the report of the Ndoma-Egba Panel that was set up in 2008? We must go beyond debate in this chamber. There have been commissions of inquiry on the Plateau crisis and yet, there are no resolutions. Something must be done urgently about Plateau State.”


Deputy Majority Leader, Victor Ndoma-Egba, expressed regret that Jos, “which was a preferred choice for non-Plateau citizens as place of retirement, has become a battleground which is no different from Afghanistan and Somalia.”


Senate Whip Kanti Bello said: “This Senate should ask (Jonathan), who has deployed troops to Plateau State, to declare a state of emergency.”


Marine Committee Vice Chairman, Tafidan Argungu, echoed Bello’s call for a declaration of a state of emergency, but the move had no support in the Chamber.


Besides, Deputy Senate President, Ike Ekweremadu, faulted the imposition of a 24-hour curfew on Jos, arguing that the country is not in a state of emergency.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by Mekusxyz: 6:04pm On Jan 21, 2010
Who is really the offender and the defender in this Jos crisis? Who is hyping the situation here? ''200 muslims killed, 65 Christians killed''. I am thoroughly confused here.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by desgiezd(m): 6:07pm On Jan 21, 2010
How much does the life of a Nigerian worth?

Pathetic!! This is not the Jos I used to know and cherished.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by chosen04(f): 6:21pm On Jan 21, 2010
desgiezd:

How much does the life of a Nigerian worth?

Pathetic!! This is not the Jos I used to know and cherished.

Is this the Nigeria "the north and the south" fought to keep united?

Will the BLOOD of these wasted innocent nigeria ever wish this country well?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by desgiezd(m): 7:11pm On Jan 21, 2010
chosen04:

Is this the Nigeria "the north and the south" fought to keep united?

Will the BLOOD of these wasted innocent nigeria ever wish this country well?


The blood will definitely cry for vengeance and thats a terrible spiritual angle to the whole issue.

Who then will make atonement for the blood of the innocent souls we shed in this land everyday a la Boko Haram, Kala Kato, Jos et al?
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by onyengbu1(m): 8:05pm On Jan 21, 2010
Mekusxyz:

Who is really the offender and the defender in this Jos crisis? Who is hyping the situation here? ''200 muslims killed, 65 Christians killed''. I am thoroughly confused here.

That will either tell you that a northerner is a northerner muslim or christian OR that christians up there are now fed up with being butchered like chickens.

Either of the two.
Re: The Sights and Smell Of Death In Jos by ayinba1(f): 8:09pm On Jan 21, 2010
^^^^hmnnnnn

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