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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 7:25pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ceaser: It's in my signature.... It's 2.25kw total |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Christgalaxy(m): 5:35am On Apr 05, 2020 |
PMPSolutions:what kind of batteries are you using for the generator |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 10:46am On Apr 05, 2020 |
ceaser: That user rating review will be worth taking into consideration,...did you go through the comments? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 12:28pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
ojeysky: How did you refund the sellers? I was in similar situation and I was wondering how to reimburse the sellers? |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eleojo23: 12:53pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
adrusa: Buy something else or reorder the same item from the sellers and ask them not to ship it. They will mark it as shipped but wont send out any item. After some days, click confirm receipt of item then AliExpress will release the money to them. 2 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 1:06pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
adrusa: I notified the seller and they ask me to place order for an equivalent item in their store and then put a note for them not to ship. 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by PMPSolutions: 1:10pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Christgalaxy: Dry Cell VRLA Battries! |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Deluxe8000(m): 2:40pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Pls house, what is your take on this charger as regards it's effectiveness and durability? Thanks.
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 6:44pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Deluxe8000: All the good chargers I know are costly, anyways I think this charger will work. But I can't really say how durable it is, because I've seen similar chargers for after a short period. But your experience may differ and you get to enjoy it. The thing I think should be important is if the specs meets your need and it is within your budget and available locally, lockdown has made us now buy local. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 6:52am On Apr 06, 2020 |
Good morning all, while I'm not new to inverters and solar this will be my first time venturing into Lithium batteries and its affiliates. I will be discussing my proposed new set up in a future post, presently all batteries are on transit into the country. For now I will really like to pick your knowledge on 2 pertinent issues I still don't have resolved. Even YouTube is really not answering them for me. 1) What's the type of electrical charger I need to invest on for a 24v and 48v system. Most YouTube guys use MPPT to charge their set ups and the ones that manage to venture into electrical charging only mention DC to DC chargers or little amps chargers to build up their batteries. 2) I don't really understand much about the BMS or its need but what I want to ask is its disconnect function during charging. If it disconnects my MPPT from charging the batteries won't that spoil the CC? As those guys don't tolerate solar connection with nothing to discharge into. Also, can ePever (my present CC) be programmed to give same absorption and float charge? I learnt that technique on this forum. Thanks as you help a brother out. 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 9:44am On Apr 06, 2020 |
essegis: 1) Any charger that you can adjust the voltage to the specific voltage of the battery you use. Or the charger's output is ok with the specified charging voltage of the battery. PS the charging amperage of lithium battery is specific to the make and capacity of battery in use. Some 100AH 3.2V battery can be charged up to 100A while some specified 50A or 20A. So you will need to see the spec sheet of the battery you want to buy. 2) The BMS is the Battery Management System, each BMS can do the following, dependent on the specifications, manage charging, manage discharging and balance functions. The BMS only disconnects battery at extreme situations. I'll give you an instance. A BMS rated 50A for charging and 60A for discharging can only disconnect battery when you exceed 50A during charging (usually around 60A) and exceed 60A during discharging (usually around 70A). Also the BMS manage discharging by cutting off at preset voltage (some BMS has the capability of varying this cut off), say a BMS has a low voltage cut off of 2.5v , (assuming a LiFePO4 of 3.2v), if you discharge a 12v system to 10v it will cut off the battery. Also if the high voltage cut off is 3.60v (assuming it's a 3.2v lifepo4 cell) for a 12v system it will cut off at 14.4v for a 12v battery system. Ways to manage the BMS from disconnecting during use. First, plan your system and buy appropriate BMS. Eg if you have a 24v system and you plan to run a load of 1000w. It won't be wise to buy a 20A 24V BMS as you can easily exceed this amperage. In this case a 24v 60A or 24v 80A will be more appropriate. Secondly, buy an appropriate SCC that can match the cut off voltage of the BMS. Eg a 24v lifepo4 (3.2v cell) BMS will cut off at voltage exceeding 28.8v, so set your SCC maximum battery charging voltage to like 28.4v or something below that 28.8v. I think your Epever has the capability to charge lithium, you just need to know how to use it. PS my friend is currently using one to charge his lithium batteries, just that the friend is not currently in the country. Finally, not ALL MPPT solar charge controller fries when the battery is disconnected during PV charging. 2 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 10:31am On Apr 06, 2020 |
earthrealm: Fragile.. |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 10:48am On Apr 06, 2020 |
mctfopt: Thanks for taking the time out to attend to me. All the batteries I bought for my new Lithium set up are used so to get hold of their spec sheet go hard oo. I have modules from Nissan Leaf, BYD & 38120 coming in. I know the operational voltages I want to set these at but presently don't know the charger amperage to be used. If you can advice on a charger to add to my cart I'll be grateful. Surprised to hear there are CC that don't fry up when they have input but no output. This is my first time of hearing it as I've always tried to prevent such situations. Can you advise respected CC for Lithium too? Thanks once again. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 11:40am On Apr 06, 2020 |
essegis: These are popular batteries, I don't think it'll be hard to see the spec sheet online. Why not buy inverters that can handle both the charging and PV functions? Growatt Ce Approval Pure Sine Wave Inverter 5000 Watt Solar Offgrid Inverter, or this other inverter MPPSolar 5000w Solar inverter 230vac 48vdc + 80A MPPT are all good buy. You can also buy the Victron, Schneider, SMAs etc on the side of the premium range. But you can also check this charger (actually a rectifier that is modified). It's pricey but I've seen it in action. I think your CC is ok, dunno the amperage though, EPEVER do produce great CCs, there are many CC out there. My neighbour's MakeskyBlue SCC does not burn when the battery is discounted. Though I still won't advise anyone to disconnect their batteries |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 12:46pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
mctfopt: Thanks bro, when I actually set out to planning the new system I wanted to use an hybrid (I've never used it before) but was quick to realise it does not have the grid supply cut off functionality to the house. What I mean is my plan is to use grid and solar to charge my batteries while the batteries feed the house 24-7. With hybrid (same with inverters with charging function) when NEPA comes they cut off and supply NEPA to the house, I don't want that. So I will be buying my equipment individually viz inverter, charger, MPPT. Also, my latest inverter that has served me 5yrs with no issue came without charger. So I feel they last longer if separated. But I will be ordering this charger you highlighted here. Hope I can use for both 24v and 48v systems. 1 Like |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 1:12pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 1:13pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
essegis: I read what you wrote about your preference for non hybrid inverter but I still could not grasp what you meant. But if you prefer the standalone system, I guess you'll have to go for it. The charger has a range of 0-60v, that means it can serve for 12v/24v/36v/48v battery system. You can adjust whatever voltage you like within that 0-60v or 0-120v range. There are two types there, I'll recommend you order for the 0-60v if you plan to either use it on a 24v/48v system due to the higher current output (50A) compared to the 0-120v (25A). |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by essegis(m): 2:08pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
mctfopt: You have been of good help. I am very grateful. 2 Likes |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Deluxe8000(m): 2:28pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
mctfopt:thanks for the prompt response. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by OtunbaLeXuS(m): 8:33pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
Good evening, Please how many 200AH (12V) batteries are in 15.4KWH-48V lifpo4 battery.? Thanks. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by generalstingz(m): 10:07pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
OtunbaLeXuS: You just have the mathematics to do. 15.4KWH ÷ 48V = 320.8AH ~321AH Going by your question. 200AH × 12V = 2400WHR 15.4KWH ÷ 2.4KWR = 6.42 ~ 6 Theoretically, you have six times the capacity of a 200AH battery. Guess your question has been answered. You cant get a 48V configuration with 6 batteries. You count / arrange in 4s. Cheers |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 10:09pm On Apr 06, 2020 |
OtunbaLeXuS: Approx 6 (6 * 200AH * 12V = 14.4kWh) But you can't arrange 6 of such to get 48V Edit: answered already above. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by BetaTechnicians: 9:32am On Apr 07, 2020 |
The question is a bit tricky, if we have to factor in useable capacity of lifepo4 vs 12V-200AH(Lead-Acid). 1 Like |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 12:32pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
BetaTechnicians: If we are to do that, we will be talking of 9 to 12 x12v/200AH batteries depending on intended DOD on both sides. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by OtunbaLeXuS(m): 12:52pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
As a layman, i gained something from this, thanks. generalstingz: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by OtunbaLeXuS(m): 12:53pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
Am grateful. mank1234: |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by BetaTechnicians: 6:55pm On Apr 07, 2020 |
adrusa:Exactly. OtunbaLeXuS, you should also take note of the above comment because of usable capacities of both batteries differ due to their chemistry. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 9:17am On Apr 08, 2020 |
ojeysky: Thumbs up. Your PIP-GK, repair is still pending àbí? Covik 1-9 things. How were you able to get those graphic outputs charted? I though is was an exclusive preserve of your GK, but now that you've changed the inverter you still get graphic interphase. |
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 9:42am On Apr 08, 2020 |
Trippledots: Thanks for calling my attention to that. I made that observation before I placed the other. Buyers' complains has to do with the items not probably shipped, or not delivered, or seller's slow or no response to complaints or ridiculously expensive customs tax upon delivery. The few that received the item did not complain of quality issues. The only Nigerian buyer there commented only "okay" as his review meaning he received the item and has no problems with quality The seller has other items in his store and a cursory look at reviews of those other items are better, giving the seller a generally good rating. I took the plunge to buy, leveraging on the buyer protection and money back guarantee policy of AE upon failure of delivery of items. My purchase protection runs out in 24 hours, but I had sent request for extension since 5 days ago and seller has not replied up till now, validating some buyers' claims that he does not respond to messages. So I opened trade dispute for full refund this morning. I am optimistic that arbitration will be in my favour. 1 Like
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 9:47am On Apr 08, 2020 |
ceaser: Felicity is a PIP clone, so I still get data from it for my emoncms processing (though not as much as the PIP), it's the reason I went for felicity as a temp replacement. I hope my PIP will come alive soon enough hopefully covid-19 will get past us sooner than later. |
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