Aonkuuse:
frustration will kill people like you, pilgrimage started before hand. and if you see the money that was siphoned by the previous administration because of this same pilgrimage you are trying to paint buhari black is incredible. Hatred kills bro wake up

Aonkuuse:
frustration will kill people like you, pilgrimage started before hand. and if you see the money that was siphoned by the previous administration because of this same pilgrimage you are trying to paint buhari black is incredible. Hatred kills bro wake up

SHTFguy:


At no time did the FG offer subsidy on forex for pilgrims until the Boko ascended the throne.

Why should there be subsidy on forex for pilgrims but none for those seeking productive venture?

SHTFguy:


Better start getting used to the fact that you will be trekking in the nearest future to mecca.

Aonkuuse:
then if you don't like it go and hug transformer. you people make cases out of nothing just for hatred. do you care to check the ones that went to Jerusalem?

Aonkuuse:
am not a Muslim. I am a Christian, born and brought up as a Christian. I will never dream of been a Muslim. but some of you reason out of hatred for one another because of religion, but I tell you bro it will continue to be the problem of Nigeria

SHTFguy:
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Go and preach your one love story to Shekau


Keep deluding yourself that you can ever be accepted by Muslims.

If the Awusa Muslim has no problem killing, raping and pillaging his fellow northern Christian all because of religion, is it you born and bred kafirs of the south that they will respect?

How many northerners have you seen openly criticise this Buhari govt? But when a kafir was in power his greatest critics where southern idiots like you who will later settle for a bigoted illiterate from the north.

Keep deceiving your foolish selves that there can be any unity one you and your Muslim masters up north.

History and contemporary events exist from where you can see parallels of Islamic conquest and persecution of non Muslims but some how you think you exist in a different universe.

SHTFguy:
Long before "one nijeriya" and the advent of air travel, how did northern Muslims get to go to mecca?

Aisha Buhari has been going to mecca twice yearly since she packed into Aso Rock and we all know who is picking up her bills.


But my concerns are not with Aisha wandering the gold bazaars of mecca in the guise of pilgrimage rather I will want to know in the scenario where northern Nigeria was not tied to the south and air travel did not exist, how will the Muslims be going to mecca?

There off course where Muslims who embarked on the long arduous journey to mecca back then and it was usually by foot or at best on the back of a camel.

Apart from the dangers associated with trekking, the muslim pilgrim had to factor huge logistics involved in trekking to allah's shrine.

Historical narratives have it that, just like early Christian pilgrimage to Jerusalem, (which Islam adopted like basically every other thing else in Islam), a would be pilgrim to mecca depended for his subsidence on the goodwill of people he will encounter on his way to mecca.

It was thus no easy endeavour. So what will be the fate of millions of northerners now if there was no air travel? Will they still embark on a year-long journey on foot braving the elements and wild to get to Mecca?

It's good enough that aid travel has been invented and is now the major means of transportation but why then is the Federal govt and states doling out subsidies for a religious venture that is not even obligatory?

Apart from subsidising air tickets and feeding of pilgrims the current FG even doled out a subsidy on forex for would be pilgrims at the direct detriment of other forex applicants. Is this not madness?

The case of govt even organising any useless pilgrimage must be rescinded and all govt boards setup for any useless pilgrimage excersice be it for musluns,or Christians or Sango must be discontinued asap!

Aonkuuse:
yes am proud of preaching peace, you too continue preaching violence. but my advice is stop poisoning the minds of some well meaning Nigerians. peace and violence pays nigga

Aonkuuse:
frustration will kill people like you, pilgrimage started before hand. and if you see the money that was siphoned by the previous administration because of this same pilgrimage you are trying to paint buhari black is incredible. Hatred kills bro wake up

surddick:
there is no one painting buhari black cus he is black already i meant his skin, the op is jst asking the relevance of subsidising pilgrimage for ppu, who does that. Why are they jst enriching other countries, the last i heard its compulsory if u are capable not mandatory so why force it. This so called alhajis are jst by names notin to show in their actions.

SHTFguy:


Better start getting used to the fact that you will be trekking in the nearest future to mecca.

Kbanka:
The nation won't stop it's prayers because of yu. These same subsidies are applicable to christian pilgrims in this country. Why is it now an issue?

The govt wants to put a stop to our attitude of importing everything into this country while exporting only oil. Add that to forex shortage currently at hand, subtract hate in yr mind, and I'm sure better work will fall on yu.

Otherwise
OP, yr levels of hate causes heart attack oh

SHTFguy:
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All useless pagan shrine expeditions should be paid fully by would be adherents.

Similarly, I also called for the scraping of the Nigerian Christian pilgrims board which was created by Obasanjo.

The NCP is the reason Muslims can open their trashy mouth and defend this useless waste of scarce funds.

State sponsored and subsidy of Muslim pilgrims pre-dates that of Christian pilgrimage subsidies which began in the early 2000's while the Federal govt has been sponsoring Muslims since 1975!

Caseless:
the pagans should come out and ask for their own in the spirit of fairness .


As for the creation of the Christian pilgrims board , Christians are always in competition with Muslims over some practices even as theirs have no scriptural backings, hence , the creation of the agency.


I do not support state sponsored pilgrimage, but don't make it seem as if Christians in are not beneficiaries. Irrespective OOF when they started benefiting , Christians are guilty as well.

SHTFguy:


Don't be Senseless.

Christian pilgrimages to jerusalem existed long before mohammed and your Islam.

Jews did their own holy pilgrims to Jerusalem to partake in the feast of the passover.

Christian pilgrimages were never obligatory and where a personal sacrifice usually tracing back the routes taken by Paul and Peter.

As typical with you plagiarising and ever thieving Muslims, you will be claiming credit for something that your prophet copied (and badly so) from others.

Reminez:
This should have been a very beautiful thread but you laced it with ethnic and religious bigotries. Too bad !! When good threads as this are laced with primitive sentiments, you only end up forcing people to take positions in defending their religions and tribes.
The OP should get back to the drawing board because his deviously fashioned hate message would not fly.

That said, no sane government should have a hand in any religious issue. Nigeria would continue to remain a laughing stock amongst her peers if we continue to toe this path of wastefulness .

Caseless:
that's what I'm telling that ass-wipe . No one is supporting the government doing that, but the blame should be across board and not a tilted one like that imp is spreading.

Reminez:
This should have been a very beautiful thread but you laced it with ethnic and religious bigotries. Too bad !! When good threads as this are laced with primitive sentiments, you only end up forcing people to take positions in defending their religions and tribes.
The OP should get back to the drawing board because his deviously fashioned hate message would not fly.

That said, no sane government should have a hand in any religious issue. Nigeria would continue to remain a laughing stock amongst her peers if we continue to toe this path of wastefulness .

SHTFguy:



Listen here and listen good...

I had to showcase how Islamic pilgrimage was not within the means of your average ab0ki prior to both the free oil money and invention of air travel.

A journey that will take up to a year to and fro by foot or camel was not something your average northerner could afford physically and/or financially.

But with the oil windfalls during the 70's the Federal Govt began subsidizing Nigerian muslims to embark on hajj.

How can you explain the frivilorities of Aisha going to Mecca at least twice a year since she became First Hajiya?

Could she be able to afford traveling to Mecca twice a year?

The muslim pilgrim subsidy must stop as this is another scam northerners use to fleece the nation dry as there is high level corruption that permeates the entire scheme

SHTFguy:
As usual the useless muslm liars have flooded this thread with their fallacies by drawing analogies with the Nigerian Christian Pilgrimage scheme as well.

But how can you compare what was set-up in 2007 (NCPC) to what has been in existence since 1975!

Haba!

SHTFguy:
Long before "one nijeriya" and the advent of air travel, how did northern Muslims get to go to mecca Makkah ?

Aisha Buhari has been going to mecca twice yearly since she packed into Aso Rock and we all know who is picking up her bills.


But my concerns are not with Aisha wandering the gold bazaars of mecca in the guise of pilgrimage rather I will want to know in the scenario where northern Nigeria was not tied to the south and air travel did not exist, how will the Muslims be going to mecca
Makkah ?

There off course where Muslims who embarked on the long arduous journey to mecca back then and it was usually by foot or at best on the back of a camel.

Apart from the dangers associated with trekking, the muslim pilgrim had to factor huge logistics involved in trekking to allah's shrine.

Historical narratives have it that, just like early Christian pilgrimage to Jerusalem, ([s]which Islam adopted like basically every other thing else in Islam), [/s]a would be pilgrim to mecca Makkah depended for his subsidence on the goodwill of people he will encounter on his way to mecca.

It was thus no easy endeavour. So what will be the fate of millions of northerners now if there was no air travel? Will they still embark on a year-long journey on foot braving the elements and wild to get to Mecca?

It's good enough that aid travel has been invented and is now the major means of transportation but why then is the Federal govt and states doling out subsidies for a religious venture that is not even obligatory?

Apart from subsidising air tickets and feeding of pilgrims the current FG even doled out a subsidy on forex for would be pilgrims at the direct detriment of other forex applicants. Is this not madness?

The case of govt even organising any useless pilgrimage must be rescinded and all govt boards setup for any useless pilgrimage excersice be it for musluns Muslims,or Christians or Sango must be discontinued asap!

IdisuleOurOwn: