all those people going against army and eastern states pronouncement were part of IPOB sponsors

sunshineG:
yes it is true because by that time Anc had the underground military movement.

The reason why the international community supported the Anc is because the blacks had no representation in the Southafrican government then. Thus, the international community had no choice.

Secondly, the government of Southafrica then passed legislations that encouraged racism ( like the forcefull removal of blacks from their indigenous home land)

Finally, more importantly the Anc was yearning for better representation not separation. The other parties yearning for separation didn't receive much global support because no country will support the separation of another sovereign state.

You need to know that people agitate for different purposes.some agitate for inclusion in government while some agitate for outright separation and each of these purposes are achievable owing to the provisions of United Nations Charter.
The case of South Africa is even better cos they are fighting against external colonialism while Biafra is fighting against internal colonialism so it needs more robust aggressiveness and radical approach to be able to convincing the outside observers that they are really subdued

Xb4Real:
These people are wasting their time. You can destroy all the flags and proscribed whatever you want. But you cannot erase it from our hearts. The clamour for The Sovereign States of Biafra is deep inscribed in every true born Igboman's heart. And the agitation will continue until it's actualised. No matter what this administration do.

thats wat we have all failed to understand. that watever pushes a being to act differently is from the heart and cant be stopped by force. for me dis particular agitation is occassioned by ill treatment metted to nigerians and igbos choose to voice out their pains and have done so at a great cost. Heaven will act someday. wishing those who lost loved ones speedily recovery from pains

fk001:



Herdsmen is a minor issue, they won't bring headache

If you don't know... Know it that you are MADDDDDD!

TheCabal:


Ok your just stupid. What was ANC fighting for?

it is. pitiful that your lack of logic has made you deep lost in abusive words.
what am trying to educate you on is that your government proscription of IPOB does not hold water within international communities cos it is lacking in content for procedures and substances which reflect terrorism.
your military established should be the one to be proscribed instead.

patval:

You need to know that people agitate for different purposes.some agitate for inclusion in government while some agitate for outright separation and each of these purposes are achievable owing to the provisions of United Nations Charter.
The case of South Africa is even better cos they are fighting against external colonialism while Biafra is fighting against internal colonialism so it needs more robust aggressiveness and radical approach to be able to convincing the outside observers that they are really subdued

and d unwise govt helped their cause

serverconnect:
FG IS CONFUSED. NO WONDER APC MADE LIE MUHAMMED THE HEADS OF ALL LIES.

Nonsensical Statement: When GEJ was looting and lying to us that corruption is not stealing, you IPOB puppets kept quite, why the radicalism now ?
When did igbo people become freedom fighters ?
Why the uprising now ?
Why the hating now ?
Why ?

patval:

what am trying to educate you on is that your government proscription of IPOB does not hold water within international communities cos it is

Who is the international community? Are they in mars?

Is it not nation states such as Nigeria that make up the international community?

Better think logically. All the EU/UN can do is talk ... and talk some more. No nation state, will say a word about an alleged terrorist group, plotting the internal destabilization of an ally.

The US has already "tweeted" its position. Wake up .. politics is decided on a higher level.

patval:

it is. pitiful that your lack of logic has made you deep lost in abusive words.
what am trying to educate you on is that your government proscription of IPOB does not hold water within international communities cos it is lacking in content for procedures and substances which reflect terrorism.
your military established should be the one to be proscribed instead.

only weak and crude leaders resort to the measures taken by GMB. citizens agitation cant be legislated upon nt to talk of proscription. they will always find room to ventilate their anger so anybody celebrating sud get ready for another style

patval:

You need to know that people agitate for different purposes.some agitate for inclusion in government while some agitate for outright separation and each of these purposes are achievable owing to the provisions of United Nations Charter.
The case of South Africa is even better cos they are fighting against external colonialism while Biafra is fighting against internal colonialism so it needs more robust aggressiveness and radical approach to be able to convincing the outside observers that they are really subdued

The un chatter does not surpersede the laws of Nigeria, and there is no clause in the Nigerian constitution that supports its separation.

The only way you can have biafra is to have a constitution amendment.

No country in the Un will go against the laws of another country and encourage the separation of another country.

That is why your case is not similar to that of southafrica.

Narldon:


I've learnt so many new Words on Nairaland since this IPOB issue began


SECESSION

GENOCIDE

PROSCRIBED

INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

SEPARATIST

REFERENDUM

HAGUE

HATE-SPEECH

ALLEGEDLY

PYTHON DANCE

EGWU EKE


In case you learned any, Teach me

CROCODILE SMILE nko
by the way, I like that your location ooo e too make sense.

Where is that my gps sef?

Sammyblaq:
If you don't know... Know it that you are MADDDDDD!

Really

Odianose13:
The FG just wanna frustrate any legal effort IPOB is pursuing for independence. It was too conclusive and premature to term them terrorists.

As a termed terrorist group, they may not get help from the UN and after a while, it will be illegal for any person in diaspora to openly demonstrate (even if peaceful) in the name of IPOB. Its really more frustrating now.

NK made the biggest mistake from beginning. His way of handling the pursuit for Independence was more of an objective but no strategy!

He worked more with chief priests, monarchs and the less educated - all of which have little or no knowledge of the policy/politics to attain independence.

Indeed it's unfortunate that the Igbos are handled this way. I'll always respect the Igbos, they are a hard-working and enterprising tribe.

People just come up and say whatever they like.
If you were in shoes of those governors would you fold your hands and allow somebody from nowhere to rubbish you a sitting governor that was voted into office and throw your state into confusion after threatening that there won't be elections. .
It's easier said than done. Everybody critizising the governors action or the federal government stand will definitely not allow it too.
But they are quick to judge the governors and FG.

sunshineG:

The un chatter does not surpercede the laws of Nigeria, and there is no clause in the Nigerian constitution that supports its separation.

The only way you can have biafra is to have a constitution amendment.

No country in the Un will go against the laws of another country and encourage the separation of another country.

That is why your case is not similar to that of southafrica.

Among those countries that had separated, there was none with prior provision for separation. The events at the time forced it upon their local laws.
In as much as Nigerian constitution does not have provision for separation, it shouldn't deter genuine agitation for separation because when the heat from external pressure overwhelmed the withholding capacities, National Assembly will hurriedly accommodate separation through extant amendments.
In the case of Biafra, they need more international sympathy which is why they are bobby-trapping buhari into making dictatorial reckless moves.
just watch this ongoing UNGA summit and hear what super powers are saying about freedom of expression and oppression.
French president is specifically vocal against dictatorship everywhere in the world.Do your self good by following up on UNGA.
I must say you are one person I like his reasoning here on nairaland, some misguided people with lack of logic always resort to abuse instead of content argument.
definitely the world will be a better place if people of right reasoning wake up to responsibility

TheCabal:


Who is the international community? Are they in mars?

Is it not nation states such as Nigeria that make up the international community?

Better think logically. All the EU/UN can do is talk ... and talk some more. No nation state, will say a word about an alleged terrorist group, plotting the internal destabilization of an ally.

The US has already "tweeted" its position. Wake up .. politics is decided on a higher level.

I urge you to follow up with UNGA and see reactions from International communities, why do you think Myanmar leader put up a press conference today?
you are just wallowing in isolated deceit and denial of reality.

Is buratai a coward?
Why cant he stand on his word

omenka:
IPOB stands as a terrorist group and would be treated as such.

Parents and guardians, caution your wards against the consequences of identifying with that group. Nigeria is a sovereign nation and her laws come first before any other treaties she signs with any international organization.

Osama Bin Kanu is hereby declared a terrorist spomsor/leader and would be treated like the Shekaus and Al Baghdadis of this world.

Whoever has ears, let them hear.

I read your write up and I felt like crying for your generation ...very soon you would understand better

Even when the senate president says it is unconstitutional

Why do i need to take this government serious in any statement they make cos i no eventually they will deny ever saying such

patval:

Among those countries that had separated, there was none with prior provision for separation. The events at the time forced it upon their local laws.
In as much as Nigerian constitution does not have provision for separation, it shouldn't deter genuine agitation for separation because when the heat from external pressure overwhelmed the withholding capacities, National Assembly will hurriedly accommodate separation through extant amendments.
In the case of Biafra, they need more international sympathy which is why they are bobby-trapping buhari into making dictatorial reckless moves.
just watch this ongoing UNGA summit and hear what super powers are saying about freedom of expression and oppression.
French president is specifically vocal against dictatorship everywhere in the world.Do your self good by following up on UNGA.
I must say you are one person I like his reasoning here on nairaland, some misguided people with lack of logic always resort to abuse instead of content argument.
definitely the world will be a better place if people of right reasoning wake up to responsibility

thanks for the complement

The leaders at current summit are also advocating for the respect of sovereignty. Trump mentioned it like million times in his speech

Besides buhari have not yet broken any law. He is still operating well within the constitution of Nigeria. However, he might be exploiting it. That can be a subject for debate. Thus, he is not a dictator.

He is well within his right as the commander in chief of the armed forces to order the military to any part of Nigeria to maintain peace

If ibos want to break away from Nigeria, your representatives in the legislative arm of government will have to push for the amendment of the constitution, not world leaders
The world leaders will not interfere in any country's sovereignty.

By the way, the french president is a clown for talking about dictatorship, take a look at francophone countries like Cameroon to Congo to morroco and help me laugh

DeKen:
Ok. And what about the Fulani Herdsmen from Libya that has been terrorizing farmers, kidnapping people and raping women?
Looks like the overall objective of the python dance was to create a scene and provide reason to label them terrorists.
And they fell for it with many lives wasted. Some the unfortunate casualties seem to be innocent people who were minding their businesses.
What a pity.

Ok so because those criminal herdsmen went around committing atrocities ipob feel they must equal them and disturb the peace also, causing some people in the process to lose their lives for the pursuit of an illusion?very intelligent indeed.

bejeria101:
Bokoharam and fulani cowboys are ushers and choir menbers. When we say buhari is a dullard una go para. Airheads na breeze full their brain.

President Buhari real fulani herdsman?

https://www.nairaland.com/2203640/jonathan-rocks-fulani-attire-fulani

Narldon:


I've learnt so many new Words on Nairaland since this IPOB issue began


SECESSION

GENOCIDE

PROSCRIBED

INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

SEPARATIST

REFERENDUM

HAGUE

HATE-SPEECH

ALLEGEDLY

PYTHON DANCE

EGWU EKE


In case you learned any, Teach me

Very soon, you will her about the incoming "Anaconda Twerk"

marv1:

People just come up and say whatever they like.
If you were in shoes of those governors would you fold your hands and allow somebody from nowhere to rubbish you a sitting governor that was voted into office and throw your state into confusion after threatening that there won't be elections. .
It's easier said than done. Everybody critizising the governors action or the federal government stand will definitely not allow it too.
But they are quick to judge the governors and FG.

PDP and their supporters are ipob backers and financiers, fani kayode, ekwweremadu,saraki,fayose to mention a few,that is why the governors procrastinated in declaring them Enemies of the State not until the Presidency stepped in before those Eastern Governor's realized President Buhari isn't joking with these plot to undermine his government via these criminal ipob gang.

This Buhari of a president is just too sentimental to govern a divided country like ours. We all know how the arewas kicked against labelling BH a terrorist organization despite their atrocities against humanity.

tit:
Is buratai a coward?
Why cant he stand on his word

Where is Idi Amin Kanu hiding?Bloody coward.

irumanle:
This Buhari of a president is just too sentimental to govern a divided country like ours. We all know how the arewas kicked against labelling BH a terrorist organization despite their atrocities against humanity.

Mr Man,Stop been sentimental like Deborah Cox,Ipob is gone for good. If the Federal Government doesn't have the rights to label ipob a terrorist organiztion,neither do they have the powers to label boko haram a terrorist outfit.

One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist,Hezbollah claim they are freedom fighters meanwhile ipob Jewish Brothers in Israel consider them terrorist?very ironic.

I will only support this if the fulani herdsmen as well as the OPS and Niger delta militants groups are also term terror groups. .come to think of it, gov't negotiated with boko haram, a known terrorist group, gave militants amnesty and bribes were given to OPT members to clam them down during the 2015 General elections. .

I pity u, may God save us frm pple like u.

serverconnect:
FG IS CONFUSED. NO WONDER APC MADE LIE MUHAMMED THE HEADS OF ALL LIES.

I dnt knw why d Igbos are nt grateful...After d biafran war ur lives were spared and u guys were allowed to still be part of us considering ur loss, yet ur here clamouring for independence, for wat!? u pple re nt grateful wlhi

Odianose13:
The FG just wanna frustrate any legal effort IPOB is pursuing for independence. It was too conclusive and premature to term them terrorists.

As a termed terrorist group, they may not get help from the UN and after a while, it will be illegal for any person in diaspora to openly demonstrate (even if peaceful) in the name of IPOB. Its really more frustrating now.

NK made the biggest mistake from beginning. His way of handling the pursuit for Independence was more of an objective but no strategy!

He worked more with chief priests, monarchs and the less educated - all of which have little or no knowledge of the policy/politics to attain independence.

Indeed it's unfortunate that the Igbos are handled this way. I'll always respect the Igbos, they are a hard-working and enterprising tribe.

blacknp:
Ok so because those criminal herdsmen went around committing atrocities ipob feel they must equal them and disturb the peace also, causing some people in the process to lose their lives for the pursuit of an illusion?very intelligent indeed.

To the best of my knowledge lives were not lost until the python decided to dance and most of the lives lost came courtesy the python. Meanwhile
the herdsmen had been killing, raping and maiming and the python just looked on without dancing. Part of the encouragement to the agitation is the seemingly freedom of the herdsmen to terrorize others without any tangible reaction of govt. In fact the python will be sent after those who tried to make counter attacks on the herdsmen. So I don't understand if intelligence now means not reacting to a perceived aggression/marginalization of a people (which is their explained grievance).

solaere:
Even when the senate president says it is unconstitutional

Who has more authority the senate president or the President of the Republic?we all know saraki is a pdp supporter disguised in apc jalabia an ipob sympathy beggar.