If we remove the moral standards stated in the bible that organise the roles of each family member, how then does an atheist handle this issues since he does not believe in God nor His word?

For instance, who makes the approach to marry? Will it be the woman or the man and why? How is the head of the family determined?

they do it anyway they like!!

JMAN05:
If we remove the moral standards stated in the bible that organise the roles of each family member, how then does an atheist handle this issues since he does not believe in God nor His word?

For instance, who makes the approach to marry? Will it be the woman or the man and why? How is the head of the family determined?

gender roles in marriage is not a biblical thing please, it is rather cultural and every culture has their own ideas on gender roles in marriage, what you find in the bible only shows the jewish idea of gender roles in marriage.


Igbos have theirs and so does everyone else, in most cultures men are the dominant species (biologically men are stronger and bigger) so this is not a surprise.

In some cultures women have the upper hand, it differs from culture to culture, society to society, time to time.

For me: It depends on what works for you, nothing should dictate how you handle your relationship. Only you and your partner has that right and should figure out what works for you.

Culture shouldn't dictate, religion shouldn't, society shouldn't even though these are influencing factors.

JMAN05:
If we remove the moral standards stated in the bible that organise the roles of each family member, how then does an atheist handle this issues since he does not believe in God nor His word? ... How is the head of the family determined?

In most successful marriages, including religious marriages, each partner gets to be the "head" in the areas of marriage that he/she is most qualified to lead. For example, if the wife enjoyed cooking, she would be the "head" of the kitchen. If she was an accountant and the husband a musician, then she would be the "head" of finances. If she was a lecturer, she would be the "head" of the education of the children. If she was a fashionista, she would be the "head" of dressing up the family. With this in mind, I don't see any need for an overall head in a family. When a husband and wife disagree, they should continue conducting research and talking to each other until they reach a consensus or an acceptable compromise.

JMAN05:
who makes the approach to marry? Will it be the woman or the man and why?

Most engagements, even religious engagements, are initiated by the person who is more eager to get married. The only difference in our culture is that women are expected to approach prospective husbands in indirect ways, but it's essentially the same thing. Whether one partner 'sends signals' and the other responds, or one partner gets on a knee and the other says 'yes', marriage only happens when both partners want it.

JMAN05:
If we remove the moral standards stated in the bible that organise the roles of each family member, how then does an atheist handle this issues since he does not believe in God nor His word?

For instance, who makes the approach to marry? Will it be the woman or the man and why? How is the head of the family determined?

You bible shouldn't organise the roles of each family member. This should be organised according to what works for you and partner, (it's very important). In my opinion, Doing it any other way is a recipe for disaster.

Seun:

In most successful marriages, including religious marriages, each partner gets to be the "head" in the areas of marriage that he/she is most qualified to lead. For example, if the wife enjoys cooking, she would be the "head" of the kitchen. If she is an accountant and the husband is a musician, then she should be the "head" of finances. If she's a lecturer, she should be the "head" of the education of the children. With this in mind, I fail to see any need for an overall head in a family. When a husband and wife disagree, they should continue conducting research and talking to each other until they reach a consensus on what to do.

90% of Nigerian men are innately misogynistic and were raised to believe they should have the final decision on all home affairs. Your theory won't work in this country.
Many even sadistically force their wives to do what they (the wives) don't like just to show they have power over her.
Men are just innate misogynists. Simple.

Did your great grandfather read the Bible? How did he know he was the head of the family?

lilbest4:
Did your great grandfather read the Bible?
How did he know he was the head of the family?

Your comment is crazy oo

NLmember:

90% of Nigerian men are innately misogynistic and were raised to believe they should have the final decision on all home affairs. Your theory won't work in this country.
Many even sadistically force their wives to do what they (the wives) don't like just to show they have power over her.

Most of these men are Christians or Muslims because it is written in their holy books to treat their women like trash

Men are just innate misogynists. Simple.

Is this how your father treated your mother?

Not every man is like your dad you know. You might meet someone who is totally opposite of him and give you a different view about men

JMAN05:
If we remove the moral standards stated in the bible that organise the roles of each family member, how then does an atheist handle this issues since he does not believe in God nor His word?

For instance, who makes the approach to marry? Will it be the woman or the man and why? How is the head of the family determined?

This is a silly question Sir. Before Christianity came we were here and we had a head of the family n we also practiced a system where a man goes on to marry a woman.

Christianity didn't teach us that.

dumb thread. how do they determine the head in north Korea Or China and japan nonsense.

PrecisionFx:



This is a silly question Sir. Before Christianity came we were here and we had a head of the family n we also practiced a system where a man goes on to marry a woman.

Christianity didn't teach us that.

You didn't fly down from heaven. What we carried over here began somewhere. So, by what standard should the man be the head of the family then, take the initiative to marry etc. If all through, we had atheist, do you think women would subscribe to that system?

JMAN05:


You didn't fly down from heaven. What we carried over here began somewhere. So, by what standard should the man be the head of the family then, take the initiative to marry etc. If all through, we had atheist, do you think women would subscribe to that system?

Men became the dominant species thus heads of clans and families because they were physically stronger. Before monarchial government came into practice, leadership is determined by who the strongest person was.

So the social and family structure developed from that and saw men at the helm of the fundamental social hierarchy.

This is supposed to be elementary brother

JMAN05:


You didn't fly down from heaven. What we carried over here began somewhere. So, by what standard should the man be the head of the family then, take the initiative to marry etc. If all through, we had atheist, do you think women would subscribe to that system?

I'm lost Sir.
Pls reply to my post.

Nice and perfect explanation...

Seun:

In most successful marriages, including religious marriages, each partner gets to be the "head" in the areas of marriage that he/she is most qualified to lead. For example, if the wife enjoyed cooking, she would be the "head" of the kitchen. If she was an accountant and the husband a musician, then she would be the "head" of finances. If she was a lecturer, she would be the "head" of the education of the children. If she was a fashionista, she would be the "head" of dressing up the family. With this in mind, I don't see any need for an overall head in a family. When a husband and wife disagree, they should continue conducting research and talking to each other until they reach a consensus or an acceptable compromise.


Most engagements, even religious engagements, are initiated by the person who is more eager to get married. The only difference in our culture is that women are expected to approach prospective husbands in indirect ways, but it's essentially the same thing. Whether one partner 'sends signals' and the other responds, or one partner gets on a knee and the other says 'yes', marriage only happens when both partners want it.

see finishing comment

lilbest4:
Did your great grandfather read the Bible?
How did he know he was the head of the family?

lilbest4:
Did your great grandfather read the Bible?
How did he know he was the head of the family?

what finishing!

JMAN05:
If we remove the moral standards stated in the bible that organise the roles of each family member, how then does an atheist handle this issues since he does not believe in God nor His word?

For instance, who makes the approach to marry? Will it be the woman or the man and why? How is the head of the family determined?

How do they determine the head in Japan, China and other atheist countries? I thought social studies(not C.R.K) teaches us that the man is the head of the family

Martinez19:
what finishing!

Don't mind the OP. Even a male chicken knows without reading the bible that It is the head All male animals know this naturally too except the OP.

JMAN05:


You didn't fly down from heaven. What we carried over here began somewhere. So, by what standard should the man be the head of the family then, take the initiative to marry etc. If all through, we had atheist, do you think women would subscribe to that system?

I'm lost Sir.

Please reply my post.

Seun, reading this your comment shows how intelligent you are and I feel you should expand your wings beyond nairaland. I hope you get to have a TV program where issues like this are discussed

Seun:

In most successful marriages, including religious marriages, each partner gets to be the "head" in the areas of marriage that he/she is most qualified to lead. For example, if the wife enjoyed cooking, she would be the "head" of the kitchen. If she was an accountant and the husband a musician, then she would be the "head" of finances. If she was a lecturer, she would be the "head" of the education of the children. If she was a fashionista, she would be the "head" of dressing up the family. With this in mind, I don't see any need for an overall head in a family. When a husband and wife disagree, they should continue conducting research and talking to each other until they reach a consensus or an acceptable compromise.


Most engagements, even religious engagements, are initiated by the person who is more eager to get married. The only difference in our culture is that women are expected to approach prospective husbands in indirect ways, but it's essentially the same thing. Whether one partner 'sends signals' and the other responds, or one partner gets on a knee and the other says 'yes', marriage only happens when both partners want it.