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Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 3:35pm On Oct 06, 2017
BALLOSKI:
what do you do with hadith that's not in agreement with the Quran?
There is no hadith that is against quran
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by grodt999: 4:43pm On Oct 06, 2017
Well I suppose muslims are brainwashed otherwise who follows a religion founded by a terrorist paedophile.

Of course if you then follow the terrorist peadophile you have no choice but to lie and make excuses for him.

What a useless existence muslims live! Disgusting!
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by chillychill(f): 7:20pm On Oct 06, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
I think this is useful here....U can freely use Dr. Google.

MARRIAGE OF AISHA @ 9
.
This is so STRANGE why ?.
.
I checked one page on Facebook our bothers where
busy in argument with Christians
about the age of our Mother Aisha (R.A) and many of
us can't defend our selves on this issue but lemme
make it clear.
.
-while the disbelievers were busy calling
HIM(Prophet PBUH) a pedophile.
.
-the muslims were busy faulting sahih
bukhari so as to "cover-up" the issue.
.
-the aged were like: that's extremism.
.
Aisha radiAllahu anha said, I was given in
marriage to the rasul salallahu alayhi
wassalam when I was 6yrs old, and he
consummated the marriage when I was 9
( bukhari)
.
Rather than call it a da'eef hadith, to please
ur non-muslim friends who are insulting ur
rasool, just be silent,or ask the scholars and
read more about seerah and perhaps Allah
may grant u d hikmah behind it.
.
Have u ever asked urself?
Why is it that during the days of quraysh,
they called the rasul:
Magician, madman, and the likes but NEVER
called him a pedophile?
They never raised any question about his
marriage to Aisha (R.A), why?
Bcoz it was NORMAL at that time, girls at
dat age were suitable for marriage at dat
time, did u know:
.
-saint augustine (350AD) married a 10 year
old girl!
.
-king richard 11 (1400AD) he married a 7yr
old girl.
.
-henry Viii (1500AD) he married a 5yrs old
girl.
.
Even in the BIBLE it says:
....But save for yourself every girl who has never slept
with a man (numbers 31. 17:28)
.
According to the catholic encyclopedia,
mary the mother of Jesus was 12 when she married
the 99 years old joseph.
Before 1929, church of england ministers
could marry 12yrs old girls in britain.
.
Up till 1983, catholic canon laws permitted priests to
marry off brides at the age of 12.
.
In the united states, back in 1880, in the state of
delaware, the minimum age for marriage was 7yrs
and in california it was
10.
.
So aisha radiAllahu anha was NOT a child when she
was married!
.
We live in a society where good is
condemned at every slight opportunity but evil is
encouraged even when its flaws are
crystal clear.
.
How strange
The Nigerian constitution says:
An 18yrs old can vote
An 18yrs old can go to jail
An 18yrs old can leave alone
An 18yrs old can travel outside d country all alone.
.
And YET, an 18yrs old can't marry?
But our 12yrs old Girls are having boyfriends !
.
Did u know?.
.
When safiyyah bint huyay was married to the rasul,
she was just 17yrs old? And that
was her THIRD marriage
She was initially married to salam ibn abi haqiq and
later to kinanah ibn abi haqiq!.
.
Imagine how old she was during her first
marriage?
.
Are u clarified now?
those still doubtful, Go back to ur village
and ask ur grandmother how old she was when she
got married!.

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Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Akious2k2(m): 7:44pm On Oct 06, 2017
proudlyYoruba:

“It is reported from Aisha that she said: The Prophet entered into marriage with me when I was a girl of six … and at the time [of joining his household] I was a girl of nine years of age.

As to the authenticity of these reports, it may be noted that the compilers of the books of Hadith did not apply the same stringent tests when accepting reports relating to historical matters as they did before accepting reports relating to the practical teachings and laws of Islam. The reason is that the former type of report was regarded as merely of academic interest while the latter type of report had a direct bearing on the practical duties of a Muslim and on what was allowed to them and what was prohibited. Thus the occurrence of reports such as the above about the marriage of Aisha in books of Hadith, even in Bukhari, is not necessarily a proof of their credibility.

It appears that Maulana Muhammad Ali was the first Islamic scholar directly to challenge the notion that Aisha was aged six and nine, respectively, at the time of her nikah and consummation of marriage. This he did in, at least, the following writings: his English booklet Prophet of Islam, his larger English book Muhammad, the Prophet, and in the footnotes in his voluminous Urdu translation and commentary of Sahih Bukhari entitled Fadl-ul-Bari, these three writings being published in the 1920s and 1930s. In the booklet Prophet of Islam, which was later incorporated in 1948 as the first chapter of his book Living Thoughts of the Prophet Muhammad, The evidence are listed below with other researches

According to a hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, Aisha is said to have joined Muhammad on the raid that culminated in the Battle of Badr, in 624 CE. However, because no one below the age of fifteen was allowed to accompany raiding parties, Aisha should have been at least fifteen in 624 CE and thus at least thirteen when she was married following the Hijra in 622 CE.

Ibn Hisham’s version of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rashul Allah, the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, records Aisha as having converted to Islam before Umar ibn al-Khattab, during the first few years of Islam around 610 CE. In order to accept Islam she must have been walking and talking, hence at least three years of age, which would make her at least fifteen in 622 CE.

Tabari reports that Abu Bakr wished to spare Aisha the discomforts of a journey to Ethiopia soon after 615 CE, and tried to bring forward her marriage to Mut`am’s son. Mut`am refused because Abu Bakr had converted to Islam, but if Aisha was already of marriageable age in 615 CE, she must have been older than nine in 622 CE.
Tabari also reports that Abu Bakr’s four children were all born during the Jahiliyyah (Pre-Islam Period), which has ended in 610 CE, making Aisha at least twelve in 622 CE.

According to Ibn Hajar, Fatima was five years older than Aisha. Fatima is reported to have been born when Muhammad was thirty-five years old, meaning Aisha was born when he was forty years old, and thus twelve when Muhammad married at fifty-two.

 

According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha was born about eight years before Hijrah (Migration to Medina). However, according to another narrative in Bukhari (Kitaab al-Tafseer) Aisha is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur’an , was revealed, “I was a young girl”. The 54th Surah of the Qur’an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha had not only been born before the revelation of the referred Surah, but was actually a young girl, not even only an infant at that time. So if this age is assumed to be 7 to 14 years, then her age at the time of marriage would be 14 to 21.

According to almost all the historians, Asma the elder sister of Aisha, was ten years older than Aisha. It is reported in Taqreeb al-Tehzeeb as well as in Ibn Kathir's Al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah that Asma died in the 73rd year after migration of Muhammad when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma was 100 years old in the 73rd year after Migration to Medina, she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of migration. If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, if Aisha got married in year 1 AH or 2 AH (after Migration to Medina), she must have been between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.

According to many Ahadith in Bukhari, it is believed Aisha participated in the both of Badr and Uhud battles.

Furthermore, in Bukhari's Kitabu’l-Maghazi, Ibn `Umar states: "The Prophet did not permit me to participate in Uhud battle, as at that time, I was 14 years old. But on the day of Khandaq battle, when I was 15 years old, the Prophet permitted my participation". So, since it was not allowed for Muslims younger than 15 years old to participate in Uhud battle, Aisha, who participated in Uhud, must have been at least 15 years old in those battles; thus her age was at least 13 to 14 at the time of her marriage.

According to ibn Sa’d's Tabaqat and Ansab al-Ashraf books, opinions are in disagreement concerning her marriage with Muhammad. The marriage seems to have taken place either two of five years after the Migration (Usd al-Ghaba, 5:501).

 For further evidence, read: http://www.defence.pk/forums/current-events-social-issues/7816-hazrat-ayeshas-age-marriage.html

 Even if she was in fact 9 years old, this marriage is still justified for the following reasons:
(a) She reached the age of puberty.
(b) The marriage happened 1400 ago, not today. At that time, their marriage was not considered unusual and the proof is that the enemies of Muslims at that time did not criticize this marriage. They attacked prophet Mohammad on many issues, yet they didn't criticize his marriage to Aisha.
 (c) The fact that prophet Mohammad married a 9-year old girl does not mean that we as Muslims can marry a 9-year girls today









Sissie , mukina2
I was trying to argue this out with some of my brothers in a bus one day
but couldn't prove it than to say I heard an Imam told me about it, categorically...
In fact, he said that Abubakr (RA) took her away from the man to whom she was
bequeathed earlier because he was not a Muslim and given to The Holy Prophet (SAW)...
According to him, if I remember well, she was around 18years when she was bequeathed
to Prophet Muhammad (SAW), but around 13years or so while bequeathed to the first man...
Whichever way, ALLAH knows best (Wa ALLAHU Ahlam)

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Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Raheemzee(m): 10:02pm On Oct 06, 2017
Dindondin:
shut up. Both Pastors n Imams do shi ts with infant.
Whats the matter here is how Muhammad was painted a saint.
Aisha was a minor when Muhammad married her. EOD
believe what you want to believe!
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Dindondin(m): 10:57pm On Oct 06, 2017
Raheemzee:
believe what you want to believe!
That's what you n your likes ll conclude at when faults are taken out of Muhammad & Islam.
Funniest thing is Muhammad sef can't be bigotic like present day fanatics.
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Raheemzee(m): 11:00pm On Oct 06, 2017
Dindondin:

That's what you n your likes ll conclude at when faults are taken out of Muhammad & Islam.
Funniest thing is Muhammad sef can be bigotic like present day fanatics.
o.k,bye!
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by fatymore(f): 8:57am On Oct 07, 2017
1nigeriamyfoot:
is it truth that muhammadu buhari married aisha at age of 9? grin grin grin
ask google bad shild
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:51am On Oct 07, 2017
chidichuddo:



been betrothed isn't the same as marriage

you can't sleep with a child

Please stop playing with words.

Betrothal means engagement.
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Nobody: 10:12am On Oct 07, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Please stop playing with words.

Betrothal means engagement.



does betrothal mean marriage?


when someone is engaged does it guarantee marriage or allows or would I say permit coitus?
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Rashduct4luv(m): 12:34pm On Oct 07, 2017
chidichuddo:




does betrothal mean marriage?


when someone is engaged does it guarantee marriage or allows or would I say permit coitus?

Can you bring proofs that it doesn't?
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by 1nigeriamyfoot: 2:44pm On Oct 07, 2017
fatymore:
ask google bad shild
You knw sey u owe me something? kontinu ok
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Nobody: 3:26pm On Oct 07, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Can you bring proofs that it doesn't?


bro we live in a community where it is the norm

look around


Google is your friend


so when someone is betrothed to another s*x is permitted? is that what you r trying to say?
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by adejaresalami1(m): 10:13pm On Oct 07, 2017
You will do yourself good to repent..........because you seem to me like dajal of our time......I know deep down in you, you know the truth buh too proud to give it up
Allah has forbidden the paradise for proud folks of ur type
AlBaqir:


# Unfortunately, this is Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, the Prophet of Allah. Quran says:

Surah An-Najm, Verse 3:

Nor does he speak out of desire.

It is naught but revelation that is revealed,



# And Nabi himself in hadith Sahih instructed a Sahabi to continue writing and documenting WHATEVER come out from his mouth, whether in a state of happiness or anger, for NOTHING will come out of his mouth except the TRUTH.


# So, the expression might be a common expression among the Arabs, or you might call your wife whatever which you do not meant, but that of Nabi, is TRUTH and MEANT.

Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Rashduct4luv(m): 11:13am On Oct 08, 2017
chidichuddo:



bro we live in a community where it is the norm

look around


Google is your friend


so when someone is betrothed to another s*x is permitted? is that what you r trying to say?

do you have evidence to the contrary? If they are betrothed what stops sex?
Re: The Prophet Of Islam (S. A. W) Did Not Marry A 9 Year Girl by Nobody: 6:38pm On Oct 08, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


do you have evidence to the contrary? If they are betrothed what stops sex?


evidence ke?

bro u no Sabi your village well?

this ur stance on been betrothed and sex is permitted is what I dont understand

in the north na lady or young girl is promised to a boy (betrothed) either to strengthen families ties, business or Simply because they see how they move along so well and the family of the man gives a token to the girl's family as a sign of agreement


the girl is groomed for him, taught on issues concerning marriage, even everyone in the community acknowledge who she is groomed for, but there's a limit to how they can interact cos of dignity but the two know they are meant for each other


if any of the family involved says they no longer agree to such union they give back ot take back the token paid.

still surprised you as a Nigerian don't understand what betrothal mean

even in school literature (especially in primary and secondary schools) stories on such can't remember their names but most were done by penguin books and lantern

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