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After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 2:53pm On Oct 31, 2017
After learning The basics of Java, how do I build a simple application that would run on it's own without using command promt?
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Nobody: 3:03pm On Oct 31, 2017
Build something that will solve your problem that's how you start.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 3:11pm On Oct 31, 2017
pcguru1:
Build something that will solve your problem that's how you start.
I know, my question is, how do I build a stand alone application?
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Desyner: 4:08pm On Oct 31, 2017
Take caveofprogramming.com John purcell's course "Java Swing From Beginner To Expert" it will teach you alot how to build a stand alone java swing app that integrates with DB(MySQL).


There is hardly anything like "finished learning" in programming.

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Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Nobody: 4:25pm On Oct 31, 2017
LordeCalifornia:

I know, my question is, how do I build a stand alone application?

Please define "Stand alone application" because I thought Java builds apps that run regardless of OS
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 5:31pm On Oct 31, 2017
pcguru1:


Please define "Stand alone application" because I thought Java builds apps that run regardless of OS
Okay, how do I build something like 'CHROME BROWSER " or "VLC media player" or "Adobe Reader".
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 5:33pm On Oct 31, 2017
Desyner:
Take caveofprogramming.com John purcell's course "Java Swing From Beginner To Expert" it will teach you alot how to build a stand alone java swing app that integrates with DB(MySQL).


There is hardly anything like "finished learning" in programming.
Thanks. Coincidentally, I saw something like 'swing' while searching Google not long ago.
I'd check it out.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Nobody: 6:30pm On Oct 31, 2017
LordeCalifornia:

Okay, how do I build something like 'CHROME BROWSER " or "VLC media player" or "Adobe Reader".

That won't work for you, pick a simple application like notepad and break the functionalities into modules, the reason I said building something that will solve your problem is because you know what you want and how to think around it, building an adobe reader is useless to you for now.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Desyner: 6:38pm On Oct 31, 2017
Get familiar with CRUD apps also. Most ideas client will throw at you requires CRUD functionalities.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 7:01pm On Oct 31, 2017
pcguru1:


That won't work for you, pick a simple application like notepad and break the functionalities into modules, the reason I said building something that will solve your problem is because you know what you want and how to think around it, building an adobe reader is useless to you for now.
OK, I'm not really saying I want to build a PDF reader or an internet browser, I'm only interested in knowing what would be needed in building such softwares aside from the knowledge of the Java programming Language. At most, all I can do presently is to run my java codes using command prompt.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by 2O17: 8:13pm On Oct 31, 2017
LordeCalifornia:

OK, I'm not really saying I want to build a PDF reader or an internet browser, I'm only interested in knowing what would be needed in building such softwares aside from the knowledge of the Java programming Language. At most, all I can do presently is to run my java codes using command prompt.
Get android studio & start developing android apps.
you can follow the android course on udacity
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Nobody: 8:16pm On Oct 31, 2017
LordeCalifornia:

OK, I'm not really saying I want to build a PDF reader or an internet browser, I'm only interested in knowing what would be needed in building such softwares aside from the knowledge of the Java programming Language. At most, all I can do presently is to run my java codes using command prompt.

When it comes to building a full fledge application like those mentioned there's more to just high level languages, because some of those apps call some form of library probably built in C++ which is why I said those type of apps are a wrong way to learn, first you should learn Desktop application either with Swing or JavaFX, then learn about Events in GUI, then design patterns from there on relating to GUI , then you can look at persisting data via Database, File or Remotely. Let me not lie your journey is far , just keep reading and practicing is the best advice and also learn how to research and source information. There's countless things to do with Java that's why it makes it hard to answer you.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 8:27pm On Oct 31, 2017
2O17:

Get android studio & start developing android apps.
you can follow the android course on udacity

Thanks, that's my next plan, but the size is too big, so I'd do it when I resubscribe.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 8:29pm On Oct 31, 2017
pcguru1:


When it comes to building a full fledge application like those mentioned there's more to just high level languages, because some of those apps call some form of library probably built in C++ which is why I said those type of apps are a wrong way to learn, first you should learn Desktop application either with Swing or JavaFX, then learn about Events in GUI, then design patterns from there on relating to GUI , then you can look at persisting data via Database, File or Remotely. Let me not lie your journey is far , just keep reading and practicing is the best advice and also learn how to research and source information. There's countless things to do with Java that's why it makes it hard to answer you.
Yeah, "Swing" . I just came across it today and i think it's exactly what I was looking for.
True, I've got a long way to go. But then, Nothing good comes easy.
Thanks Much.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by DankPineapple: 10:42pm On Oct 31, 2017
LordeCalifornia:
After learning The basics of Java, how do I build a simple application that would run on it's own without using command promt?
using cmd is hard work fam , I just go with eclipse that can complete mY statements for me, and shows me errors during compilation
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by asalimpo(m): 11:11pm On Oct 31, 2017
A prgramming language is just a pen. Nothing more. Unlike the physical pen we use for writing on paper,it's
more complex. But it serves the same purpose - writing application logic.
The physical pen is for drawing lines representing characters of an alphabet,so it is relatively easier to learn.
An application requires more than knowledge of how to use a "pen" to write, each application requires knowledge of the domain it is to be used in, if the domain is simple (i.e easy to learn ),the programmer can learn a language and write for that domain all by himself,e.g supermarket/inventory management software. If the domain is specialized and complex, and the programmer isnt a specialist he has to be guided by specialist in that domain,e.g finance, human genome etc. So,to your question about writing vlc player, you need knowledge of the domain vlc addresses, knowing how to convert data in certain format into audio and video. Even if you do have knowledge of that domain, the complexity of the task wont be trivial, a web browser has millions of lines of code in it. For a single person to write one, would take him multiple lifetimes.
Ditto other stuffs. if you know about dsp and other math and sciency stuff (digital signal processing used in vlc etc) you may write ur own player.
Nothing there. But at this stage u are in, you're still gonna be learn how to steady ur hand and hold the pen first- then learn how to write fluently with it,then learn how to write subconsciously with it-without looking up syntax rules- then learn basic cs stuff like how to pick the right data structure and algorithm to make your programs usable. Then learn how to design elegant software, and make intelligent /wise trade-offs,because, application building is still an art form. In short you have a lot to learn. Just like a surgeon/lawyer/engineer has a lot to learn. Years later you may be confident enough to think of tackling daunting projects like you mentioned but for now,you got to focus on mastering the use of your "pen" - the programming language of ur choice.

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Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Akin1212(m): 11:20pm On Oct 31, 2017
These noobs are always in a rush. Why not calm down and learn more? Do you think you are good to go because you know how to write a simple prompt or how to print out a statement and declare a class? That's just the basic. Give yourself more time to be conversant with the language and then become an intermediate or a junior developer. It takes time. It was just two weeks ago someone was trying to put you through how to set up Java environment on your PC. And you suddenly think you are ripe to create applications after 2 weeks? Hell no
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by agwaisrael(m): 7:17am On Nov 01, 2017
Na wa o. These comments are weird to me. The op just wants to know how to create executable jar files. Which is understandable, because it is better for distribution, among other uses.

I will strongly suggest you learn JavaFX, since you are just starting. The world is your stage, explore.

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Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by agwaisrael(m): 7:23am On Nov 01, 2017
Akin1212:
These noobs are always in a rush. Why not calm down and learn more? Do you think you are good to go because you know how to write a simple prompt or how to print out a statement and declare a class? That's just the basic. Give yourself more time to be conversant with the language and then become an intermediate or a junior developer. It takes time. It was just two weeks ago someone was trying to put you through how to set up Java environment on your PC. And you suddenly think you are ripe to create applications after 2 weeks? Hell no

This sort of tone is what discourages people daily. There is no advice here, no answer to the question, it's just useless.

It's in our drive to learn and achieve more that people became programmers and battle new challenges, at least for me.

It not your fault though, it's the Nigerian mentality, originating from our education sector. There's nothing stopping this guy from creating the next autodesk alternative today...
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by olamil34(m): 8:03am On Nov 01, 2017
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Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by karrim4real(m): 8:25am On Nov 01, 2017
LordeCalifornia:

Thanks, that's my next plan, but the size is too big, so I'd do it when I resubscribe.
I have udacity complete Android tutorial.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 8:46am On Nov 01, 2017
DankPineapple:
using cmd is hard work fam , I just go with eclipse that can complete mY statements for me, and shows me errors during compilation
I started out with cmd because the book I was using to learn specifically said the reader should start with cmd, Then proceed to using IDEs after learning the basics. I have Eclipse, I'm learning how to use it already. Thanks.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 8:49am On Nov 01, 2017
agwaisrael:
Na wa o. These comments are weird to me. The op just wants to know how to create executable jar files. Which is understandable, because it is better for distribution, among other uses.

I will strongly suggest you learn JavaFX, since you are just starting. The world is your stage, explore.

You just hit the nail on the head. It's not like I want to make a complex software, I only want to know how to make an application that can stand on its own. Even if it's a 'hello world' executable file.

Thanks, I'm learning Swing already.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 9:04am On Nov 01, 2017
Akin1212:
These noobs are always in a rush. Why not calm down and learn more? Do you think you are good to go because you know how to write a simple prompt or how to print out a statement and declare a class? That's just the basic. Give yourself more time to be conversant with the language and then become an intermediate or a junior developer. It takes time. It was just two weeks ago someone was trying to put you through how to set up Java environment on your PC. And you suddenly think you are ripe to create applications after 2 weeks? Hell no
Yeah. I understand your point, I only wanted to know what to do next after learning java using my notepad and command promt.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 9:06am On Nov 01, 2017
@asalimpo

I'm not really saying I want to build VLC player cool
But thanks nonetheless, I think I've gotten what I was looking for.

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Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by LordeCalifornia: 9:07am On Nov 01, 2017
karrim4real:

I have udacity complete Android tutorial.
How can I get it?
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by Akin1212(m): 9:51am On Nov 01, 2017
agwaisrael:


This sort of tone is what discourages people daily. There is no advice here, no answer to the question, it's just useless.

It's in our drive to learn and achieve more that people became programmers and battle new challenges, at least for me.

It not your fault though, it's the Nigerian mentality, originating from our education sector. There's nothing stopping this guy from creating the next autodesk alternative today...

The main problem with Nigerians is the lack of comprehension. You definitely lack it. I am not surprised you didn't see the advice in my comment, instead, you are crying about the tone. The OP already responded and I don't need to justify what I said to him because he already digged it. Now Mr self-righteous best adviser, motivation is key, not what people say to you. If you are influenced by what people say, why become a programmer in the first place? I only challenged the guy and motivated him to become better first then explore the world of programming. If you didn't see that? It's not my problem. Good day.
Re: After Learning Java, What Next? How Do I Build Stand Alone Applications? by karrim4real(m): 11:51am On Nov 02, 2017
LordeCalifornia:

How can I get it?

You can WhatsApp me 08131915690

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