For if Christians had continued to act like the Christ they claim to believe in, Nigerian Pentecostal Christianity won't be the mediocrity it is today. Noisy. Pompous. Arrogant. Petulant.

Next Sunday, walk into any church. Raise these prayer points. Let all who lie die by fire. Let all who abuse public offices and office of trust be brought down by the Holy Ghost. May the mouths of those who have eaten "government money" seal up. And watch the service end early. They'd rather fight unseen enemies, evil uncles/aunties, and their village people.

That's all Christianity has become - a list of prayer points and tithe.

There are good Christians, who still appreciate the use of intellect and reason. Unfortunately, a vast majority of their brethren consider these Christians 'oversabi, atheist-to-be'. For them, to use the brain is to be carnal, to be in the flesh. Those in the Spirit, simply believe, no questions asked. Doubt or skepticism is not permitted.


But without doubt, I ask, how would you know truth or fact? Without skepticism, how do you tell TRUE from FALSE?


So when you see fellow Christians asking questions about tithes, be thankful for their doubts. Be grateful, for it gives a chance for one to review, and reveal new things. Doubts, when dismissed with reproach and threats, breeds rebellion. Even Christian history tells this story.


But, alas, how much does the average Nigerian know about Christianity? Most even believe Christianity is not a religion. Call me mad.

nice one

If this same logic was applied to ATR as it is, I think it would also be good and grand.

The Chinese has made theirs enviable
In fact most kids want to be Shaolin monks now....

Chrisrianity is not a religion sah....issa lifestyle

@sonofthelightbearer,

For it is only through doubt and rebellion, that man has ever made progress!!!

“No creed must be accepted upon authority of a "divine" nature. Religions must be put to the question. No moral dogma must be taken for granted- no standard of measurement deified. There is nothing inherently sacred about moral codes. Like the wooden idols of long ago, they are the work of human hands, and what man has made, man can destroy!” ---Anton Lavey

Niflheim:
@sonofthelightbearer,

For it is only through doubt and rebellion, that man has ever made progress!!!

Hope lalasticlala likes this one.

correctguy101:
If this same logic was applied to ATR as it is, I think it would also be good and grand.

ATR is complex, and concrete information on most of it is hard to find. Also, Nollywood has misrepresented it. It would take years to change people's attitude towards it.

sonofluc1fer:


ATR is complex, and concrete information on most of it is hard to find. Also, Nollywood has misrepresented it. It would take years to change people's attitude towards it.

It's complex but so is nature. I was born and bred in the Yoruba land and I understand their traditional beliefs more than most average Yoruba adults even some older men.


It's just education, if you were educated on it, you would understand it especially if you've read wide on the sciences. You would see the correlations here and there in IFA study.
Concrete information is not hard to find, just ask sincerely or for curiosity sake and any oluwo will explain things clearer to you. It's what I did, coupled with personal research when I was interested knowing about it.

I have an educated friend of mine who is currently a certified oluwo.

And Nollywood, real jokers and destroyers of our cultural heritage. It would definitely take years but which belief system didn't take years?

Sadly, christianity (especially in Nigeria)now suffers a queer hijack by its mostly ignorant adherents. It is now for most "christians" a means to a materialistic end.

Whereas Holy Lord Jesus taught that "one can't serve God and mammon", but for naija, what is being promoted is that one can serve mammon by "God's grace".

correctguy101:


It's complex but so is nature. I was born and bred in the Yoruba land and I understand their traditional beliefs more than most average Yoruba adults even some older men.


It's just education, if you were educated on it, you would understand it especially if you've read wide on the sciences. You would see the correlations here and there in IFA study.
Concrete information is not hard to find, just ask sincerely or for curiosity sake and any oluwo will explain things clearer to you. It's what I did, coupled with personal research when I was interested knowing about it.

I have an educated friend of mine who is currently a certified oluwo.

And Nollywood, real jokers and destroyers of our cultural heritage. It would definitely take years but which belief system didn't take years?

Nollywood is a reflection of how we see things generally as a society. You can't give what you don't have.

lalasticlala good thread for fp

How atheists invade any thread discussing Christianity

Ishilove:
How atheists invade any thread discussing Christianity

When Christians try to defend Christianity

hahn:


When Christians try to defend Christianity

Your POV is highly subjective

hahn:
When Christians try to defend Christianity

No one is trying to defend Christianity.
You have those trying to defend their gods of men from those calling them to Biblical order so they stop leading their sheeple astray to eternal damnation in hell fire.
May that not be our portion in Jesus name. Amen!!!

Matthew 25:31-46King James Version (KJV)

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A31-46&version=KJV

LightSpirit:
Sadly, christianity (especially in Nigeria)now suffers a queer hijack by its mostly ignorant adherents. It is now for most "christians" a means to a materialistic end.

Whereas Holy Lord Jesus taught that "one can't serve God and mammon", but for naija, what is being promoted is that one can serve mammon by "God's grace".

Yet many of the sheeple are unwilling to redeem themselves from the yoke placed upon them by the gods of men they worship instead of worshiping God in spirit and in truth.
Who will free them of their mental slavery to these shylocks who scam them of their hard earned money?


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Dayvhid:
Chrisrianity is not a religion sah....issa lifestyle

Why are you deceiving yourself?


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anonimi:


No one is trying to defend Christianity.
You have those trying to defend their gods of men from those calling them to Biblical order so they stop leading their sheeple astray to eternal damnation in hell fire.
May that not be our portion in Jesus name. Amen!!!

*In Fela's voice*

Confusion breaki bone e yekpa!

I laugh when I read some guys say "what is holding African youth backward is religion"

the problem of Africa is not religion but leadership. Africa don't even practise religion as much as the Chinese do...


stop looking for excuse for your failure. you can start a revolution of a better Africa but stop your ignoramous foolishness

Proudgorgeousga:


Nollywood is a reflection of how we see things generally as a society. You can't give what you don't have.

What do you really mean by you can't give what you don't have?


Note that Nollywood is bastardizing our traditional religion.

Simply look at it this way.....

Another man's ancestors and God is the true one but yours are demons and demonic....

Can you see the folly?

Yet Christianity keep march on like a mighty Army.
A Christian is a new and superior creature they are the product of Christ on the cross.

Dayvhid:
Chrisrianity is not a religion sah....issa lifestyle

christianity is not a religion? Of course not it's a sport. Mtewwwwwww. Get a good dictionary and look up the meaning of the word religion.

hahn:


*In Fela's voice*

Confusion breaki bone e yekpa!

hahn:


When Christians try to defend Christianity

I swear, you are a funny character

LightSpirit:
Sadly, christianity (especially in Nigeria)now suffers a queer hijack by its mostly ignorant adherents. It is now for most "christians" a means to a materialistic end.

Whereas Holy Lord Jesus taught that "one can't serve God and mammon", but for naija, what is being promoted is that one can serve mammon by "God's grace".

Pay your tithes please. Me too want private jet!
Mein Gott's Grace

budaatum:
Pay your tithes please. Me too want private jet! Mein Gott's Grace

Otem come and see... budaATUM...
or is this you?
Na you make me hear ATUM first o. Whois search enabled....

Meti99:
I laugh when I read some guys say "what is holding African youth backward is religion"

the problem of Africa is not religion but leadership. Africa don't even practise religion as much as the Chinese do...


stop looking for excuse for your failure. you can start a revolution of a better Africa but stop your ignoramous foolishness

True talk...

But not religion, not even the leadership per se......

But cowardice of the learned and enlightened...

We only have those learned and enlightened who'll laugh and scorn your spoken English or lack of information..... Brag about their intellect and educational documents, background and achievements...... Some even help the bad managers of Africa exploit Africa and it's human and natural resources..... idiot soldiers who would protect the same animals in human skins that would cause them suffering in their old age and their progeny in penury....


Sometimes, ignorance is truly bliss, knowledge is power but also a punishment....

Let's just face it, religion is a meager part of our problem but cowardice is a major part of it.

Ojukwu started something good but ran away cos he isn't in it for the common good but it's obvious he's in it for what he'll personally get from it.....

Uwazuruike, Nnamdi Kanu... all act bold but are using the masses as shield for themselves. Cowardice don finish us all....

This same cowardice will let us succumb to degrading sturvs like greed and the likes....

I don rant finish... if you think religion put Nigeria where it is today abeg, tell me how...

I wouldn't argue it with anyone but it's same cowardice that's making us look at religion for an escape it'll never give....

Make your excuses known I don go sleep, till 2mao...

correctguy101:



What do you really mean by you can't give what you don't have?


Note that Nollywood is bastardizing our traditional religion.

Simply look at it this way.....

Another man's ancestors and God is the true one but yours are demons and demonic....

Can you see the folly?

The fault is not in Nollywood, but in our society. we see ATR as evil due to colonial religions.

Proudgorgeousga:


The fault is not in Nollywood, but in our society. we see ATR as evil due to colonial religions.

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Martinez19:
christianity is not a religion? Of course not it's a sport. Mtewwwwwww. Get a good dictionary and look up the meaning of the word religion.

See as sarcasm fly pass ur head

Dayvhid:

See as sarcasm fly pass ur head

don't mind me, my blood just dey hot.

anonimi:


Why are you deceiving yourself?


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Baba na play...... No vex