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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Konquest(m): 11:03pm On Nov 26, 2017
greatjoey:

Rooster is called. 'Aikó' in Igala. Thanks. Permit me to let you know that, the Igala and the Igbo have one ancestor called Eri. The Ata who is the Igala progenitor was the second son of Eri who also is the progenitor of all Igbo today. Ata actually migrated up north to Wukari where he met and cohabited with the Jukums and other tribes to form the old Kwararafa Kingdom. After a long time, his offspring rose up and revolted against the king of Wukari hence the return to the present settlement. However, on arrival at Ida, the Abutu-eje who is Igala ancestor today met some Ibos. He conquered and subjugated them and made them his subject because he was powerful and brave. Their lineage is called Ete ma hi (Etemahi) who are the kingmakers of Ata till date. But they cannot become Ata. Predominately, they occupy the Igala mela today. Note that, all true Igala descendants have one and only progenitor called Abutu-eje. Whoever does not trace his lineage to him is not a true son of Igala Thanks.
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Absolutely profound post!


I got to know about Eri and Igalas for the first time in
a 1991 magazine called ROOTS.

You can read my post directly above on what
I read in the magazine.


So were the Ibos the original owners
of Idah? What year did this conquest
by Abutu-eje occur?


Thanks again @Greatjoey for your fantastic response!
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Konquest(m): 11:21pm On Nov 26, 2017
Olu317:
HRM Attah Ameh has done some study even if one take away oral account and Art work to have made him arrive at this point. People are really trying so hard to seek out their ancestral origin which is a normal thing to do if one sees the needful of it. It is pertinent to emphasize here that Yoruba had in the past had contact with these people, which could be relatively because of intermarriages and trade. This had been identified through researches and orally transmitted account about these group of people that were largely farmers and fishermen in the olden days time which wasn't too different from the rest of other people. Even if there are differences. Till today, there are even migrants of Igala that have been assimilated one way or the other through intermarriages in Yoruba land. Source of information claimed that they are largely Jukun people with input from other tribes that became settlers within them. There are artifacts of IGALA that were dug out over 50 years ago that has similarity with BINI Art. Many tribes in Nigeria are related via marriages and trade. And by this, the spot of communication of business dealing was indeed around Jebba /Lokoja, in the olden days, when Yoruba beads was highly sorted after. While there were trading off of horses from the Northern part into Yoruba land. The location of trading did facilitated the Yoruboid languages classification of the IGALA .
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@Olu317

Thanks for the insightful
response you posted here. smiley

You made very profound
submissions which indicate that
there are more ties that bind us
together.

I've also always wondered about
how some ethnicities wear their
caps or Gobi like the Yoruba's
who are more clearly identified or defined
with it. Ebiras, Igalas, Jukuns, Idomas,
Gwaris, Tivs, Eggons, etc, all bend
their caps like the Yoruba men
do to their "gobi."

Finally, is there any specific community
you can site that has Igala assimilation
in Yorubaland? Could this be in Kogi/Kwara/Ondo
axis?


Thanks again. smiley
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Konquest(m): 11:34pm On Nov 26, 2017
greatjoey:


Stone I called Okuta in Igala.

Omaobala means that child of a cat.

Ugbede means gratitude.

Adejo is a modern pronunciation of Adu-Ojo which means the servant of God.

Crown In Igala is called Ukata or Ukata Onu.
Thanks.
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Absolutely Brilliant! grin
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by macof(m): 12:03am On Nov 27, 2017
IgalaSchool:
More Igala common Words

We will be using them nore in sentences as the lesson progresses

Land - Ane
Igbi - Snail
Igbili - Forest/Bush
Oko - Farm
Odu - Name
Onobule - Female
Onekele - Male
J’uja - Fight
Ubailo - Danger
Owu - Cotton / Thread
Onukwu - Friend
Ogede - Banana
Ekpo - Oil
Ate- Bed
Una - Fire
Ugba - Bowl
Adagba - Elephant
Ikpa - Bag/Sack
Ochikapa - Rice
Wife - Oya
Oko- Husband
Okö - Vehicle
Okej’omi - Canoe/Boat
Ojale - Sky
Ujenwu - Food
Enyo - Good, Nice, Cool E.tc
Ochu - Month / Moon
Ilawo - Star
Flower - Ododo
Olu - Sun
Egbe - Gun
Ona - Door

Colors in Igala

Black - Dudu
White - Fufu
Red - Kpikpa
Blue - Odufa
Green - Edufa
Pink - Odo


see yoruba-ish oozing off of these words

more research should be done on the early History of Igala(before the Jukun connection), Yoruba and Igala were definitely a single Ethnicity some time ago.
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by macof(m): 12:13am On Nov 27, 2017
excanny:


There are 3 of them likely from same parent language. Yoruba, Itshekiri and Igala.

Yoruba and Itshekiri are like blood siblings(much more similar) while Igala is like a cousin to them.
Itsekiri is a dialect of Yoruba sef, a dialect similar to Ijebu and Ilaje.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by musicwriter(m): 12:37am On Nov 27, 2017
IgalaSchool:
Hi. This is a thread for those interested in learning Igala Language.
Igala is a language spoken in central Nigeria by about 2 million people, mostly in Kogi East Zone.

Igalas are anong the largest minority ethnic groups in Nigeria, and once had a great and extensive kingdom which exerted considerable influence over all its immediate neighbors in all directions.

Join me, as I introduce you to the Igala language for those interested in learning , and fellow Igalas too.

Keep it up bro!.

Its very important you write with the right Igala characters, not English characters. We developed this Igbo keyboard and its still in the works. See whether it could help https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.techre.custom.igbokey&hl=en
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by mrdipye(m): 1:20am On Nov 27, 2017
@Igalaschool ojo ki denyo we todu eju ebi kidei.
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by bettyLad(f): 1:33am On Nov 27, 2017
happy to see this post .I never knew we have lots of igalas as narialander ..I'm proudly igala from ogugu
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by bettyLad(f): 1:38am On Nov 27, 2017
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by 9jakool: 5:25am On Nov 27, 2017
greatjoey:

Rooster is called. 'Aikó' in Igala. Thanks. Permit me to let you know that, the Igala and the Igbo have one ancestor called Eri. The Ata who is the Igala progenitor was the second son of Eri who also is the progenitor of all Igbo today. Ata actually migrated up north to Wukari where he met and cohabited with the Jukums and other tribes to form the old Kwararafa Kingdom. After a long time, his offspring rose up and revolted against the king of Wukari hence the return to the present settlement. However, on arrival at Ida, the Abutu-eje who is Igala ancestor today met some Ibos. He conquered and subjugated them and made them his subject because he was powerful and brave. Their lineage is called Ete ma hi (Etemahi) who are the kingmakers of Ata till date. But they cannot become Ata. Predominately, they occupy the Igala mela today. Note that, all true Igala descendants have one and only progenitor called Abutu-eje. Whoever does not trace his lineage to him is not a true son of Igala Thanks.
I've heard of the connection with Jukun. If you don't mind me asking, why is Yoruba the closest language to Igala?

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by greatjoey: 7:42am On Nov 27, 2017
9jakool:

I've heard of the connection with Jukun. If you don't mind me asking, why is Yoruba the closest language to Igala?
Yea, note that the relationship with the Jukum was not that they share the same ancestry but they cohabited. The close relationship in yoruba and Igala language was borne out of business interaction between them. You know, Igala had a stone market across the river Niger, called 'Ajaokuta' where many tribes marchant would come from far and near to buy. Besides, the major occupation of the Igala in the time past was blacksmithing. Igala made arrow heads, spear, iron trap etc. This made therm famous then and the Yorubas who were the closest customers would come and buy. You know, then transportation was by foot. The Yoruba would come and spend days, weeks or even months for the transaction. This brought about close interaction between them and others hence the languages closeness.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by greatjoey: 7:53am On Nov 27, 2017
Konquest:

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Absolutely profound post!


I got to know about Eri and Igalas for the first time in
a 1991 magazine called ROOTS.

You can read my post directly above on what
I read in the magazine.


So were the Ibos the original owners
of Idah? What year did this conquest
by Abutu-eje occur?


Thanks again @Greatjoey for your fantastic response!
Yes, Ibos are the original owners of Ida in that context. But by extension, both Igala and the Ibos are one and the same people. If not for the present change in language due to time, they spoke one language which I cannot mention now. I am sure it was neither Igbo nor Igala but the language spoken by Eri, their father who migrated from the middle east. The arrival of Abutu-eje to Ida was around the 7th century.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by 9jakool: 8:24am On Nov 27, 2017
greatjoey:

Yea, note that the relationship with the Jukum was not that they share the same ancestry but they cohabited. The close relationship in yoruba and Igala language was borne out of business interaction between them. You know, Igala had a stun market across the rice Niger, called 'Ajaokuta' where many tribes marchant would come from far and near to buy. Besides, the major occupation of the Igala in the time past was blacksmithing. Igal made arrow heads, spear, iron trap etc. This made therm famous then and the Yorubas who were the closest customers would come and buy. You know, then transportation was by foot. The Yoruba would come an spend days, weeks or even month for the transaction. This brought about close interaction between them and others hence the languages closeness.
I don't quite understand. Are you suggesting that Igala and Yoruba shared a common linguistic ancestor or that the two languages similarity a result of trade or a combination of both?
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by greatjoey: 8:42am On Nov 27, 2017
9jakool:

I don't quite understand. Are you suggesting that Igala and Yoruba shared a common linguistic ancestor or that the two languages similarity a result of trade or a combination of both?
The similitude of the two language was brought about by trade interaction that existed between the two independent languages. U know, language is dynamic and evolutional.
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by greatjoey: 8:53am On Nov 27, 2017
9jakool:

I don't quite understand. Are you suggesting that Igala and Yoruba shared a common linguistic ancestor or that the two languages similarity a result of trade or a combination of both?
If one must talk about ancestry of two or more languages, yo don't consider the language solely. The major consideration is the culture and tradition. The Yorubas shares no cultural affinity with the igalas. Tribe like Idomas has 99.9% cultural practice with the Igala, The Igbo of Nsuka an its environs has over 75% cultural affinity with us too. From this you can make an inference that these are but one people.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by DatYORUBAdBoi(m): 10:26am On Nov 27, 2017
I asked my mum nd she said
'Ebie' means something dats nt good
while something dats good is 'Bie'....some may say m'ebie ofe e da mor...so automatically, wat comes frm yur 'ofe' isn't good

Hope i helped?
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by DatYORUBAdBoi(m): 10:30am On Nov 27, 2017
Queenlovely:
Why do Igala like saying drink blood. As in mebie da more

I asked my mum nd she said
'Ebie' means something dats nt good
while something dats good is 'Bie'....some may say m'ebie ofe e da mor...so automatically, wat comes frm yur 'ofe' isn't good

Hope i helped?
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Godsbaby95(f): 3:26pm On Nov 27, 2017
Wow this is a very welcome idea but how do we know the pronunciations? I'm proud to be IGALA but I know very little about my language and culture. Keep it up please don't stop. I'm from Dekina LGA, Egume village. UnekuOjo Ataboh
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by scholes0(m): 3:51pm On Nov 27, 2017
9jakool:

I don't quite understand. Are you suggesting that Igala and Yoruba shared a common linguistic ancestor or that the two languages similarity a result of trade or a combination of both?

I don't understand too
How can simple trade interraction bring about a conplete change/overhaul in the entire language of a whole group of people? lol

A Yoruba man wil say ‘wa’ for come and ‘lo’ for go and an Igala man will do the same, and both will speak with similar intonations because of just ... “Trade” at one tiny market in Ajaokuta? grin

Igalas have been intereacting with Igbos for centuries now as well, why haven’t their language changed into Igbo?

No one will buy that.

The truth is that Yorubas and Igalas are the same ancestral stock. I don’t want to go as far as saying they migrated from very early Yorubaland, so I’ll jusy leave it at that.

This earlier oneness was far back enough that it was before the formation of the current Igala world view. I would even poatulate that Igalas and Yorubas were contiguous until Ebiras migrated from Kwararafa and settled in befween them. They, being the actual people who came from Jukuns and NOT the Igalas who only had one or two things to do with jukuns mostly interractional and not by descent.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Otapipia: 4:27pm On Nov 27, 2017
IgalaSchool:
Counting in Igala (Numbers)

0 - Ofo
1 - Oka / Enye
2 - Eji
3 - Eta
4 - Ele
5 - Alu
6 - Efa
7 - Ebie
8 - Ejo
9 - Ela
10 - Egwa
11 - Egwa Oka
12 - Egwa Eji
13 - Egwa Eta
........
20 - Ogwu
30 - Ogwu Egwa
40 - Ogwu meji (Ogweji)
50 - Ooje
100 - Ogwu melu (20 x 5)
200 - Ideli meji


40 is Ogbo Meji
100 is Ogbo Melu
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Olu317(m): 6:58pm On Nov 27, 2017
Konquest:

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@Olu317

Thanks for the insightful
response you posted here. smiley

You made very profound
submissions which indicate that
there are more ties that bind us
together.

I've also always wondered about
how some ethnicities wear their
caps or Gobi like the Yoruba's
who are more clearly identified or defined
with it. Ebiras, Igalas, Jukuns, Idomas,
Gwaris, Tivs, Eggons, etc, all bend
their caps like the Yoruba men
do to their "gobi."

Finally, is there any specific community
you can site that has Igala assimilation
in Yorubaland? Could this be in Kogi/Kwara/Ondo
axis?


Thanks again. smiley
IGALA are also known as IDOKO or AGATU by Yoruba groups, depending on the location within Yoruba land. These people had existed in some areas before the Yoruba people came into contact with them. And they are peaceful people within Yoruba enclave, which was the reason it was easy to assimilate and intermarried to some Yoruba stock. On your question, it is difficult to identify those of them who had married into Yoruba groups but can be identified if deep and thorough research is done. Although ,in the olden days time, Yoruba people were very industrious and well to do. The ones that aren't married into Yoruba groups can still be found in the areas you mentioned. The 60% + Yoruboid classification was as a result of these interaction which has lasted over 400 years contact with Yoruba group. ADO Ekiti's account , ONDO Town's account (ÉKIMOGUN) etc showed that they had contact with IGALA group. All the groups even more like Kanuri, Fulani etc you highlighted had contact with Yoruba.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by klebson(m): 8:24pm On Nov 27, 2017
IgalaSchool:


Nago Omayemi.

Agba oo! Ojo ki buwa ne
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Houstency(m): 10:40pm On Nov 27, 2017
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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Konquest(m): 5:12am On Nov 28, 2017
Olu317:
IGALA are also known as IDOKO or AGATU by Yoruba groups, depending on the location within Yoruba land. These people had existed in some areas before the Yoruba people came into contact with them. And they are peaceful people within Yoruba enclave, which was the reason it was easy to assimilate and intermarried to some Yoruba stock. On your question, it is difficult to identify those of them who had married into Yoruba groups but can be identified if deep and thorough research is done. Although ,in the olden days time, Yoruba people were very industrious and well to do. The ones that aren't married into Yoruba groups can still be found in the areas you mentioned. The 60% + Yoruboid classification was as a result of these interaction which has lasted over 400 years contact with Yoruba group. ADO Ekiti's account , ONDO Town's account (ÉKIMOGUN) etc showed that they had contact with IGALA group. All the groups even more like Kanuri, Fulani etc you highlighted had contact with Yoruba.
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Beautiful... Brilliant! smiley


@Olu317

I'd like to know if you are a Professional
Historian in the mould of Prof. Jide Osuntokun
for you to have gotten access to these timeless
Info that you won't find easily in the history
books? I read on another international forum in 2009 that
a National Archive exists in Ibadan where rare
documents can be found.


You are well-read and widely travelled.

All the best.
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Olu317(m): 5:48am On Nov 28, 2017
Konquest:

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Beautiful... Brilliant! smiley


@Olu317

I'd like to know if you are a Professional
Historian in the mould of Prof. Jide Osuntokun
for you to have gotten access to these timeless
Info that you won't find easily in the history
books? I read on another international forum in 2009 that
a National Archive exists in Ibadan where rare
documents can be found.


You are well-read and widely travelled.

All the best.
Hostorian?Yes but not in the like of Prof. Osuntokun because what they look differs from what I researched and still researching . Most of the times, historians of Yoruba extraction don't believe Yorubas are migrants and the ones who believed were not too bold to look at certain tradition which seem not found within the radius of Yoruba neighbourhood to affirm their migration history and they don't do interviews with most people of Yorubas, especially Oooni descendants wherever they are located to hear their own account of their ancestors history but restrict certain information seeking to ILE IFE .This is because people moved into ILE IFE and some still move out through same migration to new places. Perhaps funding could be a problem. Hidden information about Yoruba are been let out gradually despite interactions with each group Yoruba had contact with.... However, I appreciate all these historians because without their effort some more research wouldn't have been done. Take for instance, Samuel Ajayi Crowther's account that blundered and narrated OONI as OWOONI (A supposedly adopted child of Odu'a who takes care of Odu'a shrine) Who does not exist because OBADIO lineage are the ones that are the keeper of Ooni Admlia or Adimunia shrine . Even the so called OGBONI wasn't of Odu'a formation. There are hidden information that would have created more problems about Yoruba society until it was rebranded to be accepted by all. This is the reason OGBONI is under any OBA in his domain and the OBA remain as the head. In Yoruba land,there are different people that became woven into one but the main stock of these people are of Odu'a group.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Konquest(m): 7:19am On Nov 28, 2017
Olu317:
Historian?Yes but not in the like of Prof. Osuntokun because what they look differs from what I researched and still researching . Most of the times, historians of Yoruba extraction don't believe Yorubas are migrants and the ones who believed were not too bold to look at certain tradition which seem not found within the radius of Yoruba neighbourhood to affirm their migration history and they don't do interviews with most people of Yorubas, especially Oooni descendants wherever they are located to hear their own account of their ancestors history but restrict certain information seeking to ILE IFE .This is because people moved into ILE IFE and some still move out through same migration to new places. Perhaps funding could be a problem. Hidden information about Yoruba are been let out gradually despite interactions with each group Yoruba had contact with.... However, I appreciate all these historians because without their effort some more research wouldn't have been done. Take for instance, Samuel Ajayi Crowther's account that blundered and narrated OONI as OWOONI (A supposedly adopted child of Odu'a who takes care of Odu'a shrine) Who does not exist because OBADIO lineage are the ones that are the keeper of Ooni Admlia or Adimunia shrine . Even the so called OGBONI wasn't of Odu'a formation. There are hidden information that would have created more problems about Yoruba society until it was rebranded to be accepted by all. This is the reason OGBONI is under any OBA in his domain and the OBA remain as the head. In Yoruba land,there are different people that became woven into one but the main stock of these people are of Odu'a group.
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@Olu317

Oh thanks for emphasising this fact about
immigration and emigration from Ile-Ife.


The Yoruba for instance are an amalgamation
of different peoples who merged with autochtonous communities. Prof. Jide Osuntokun's
write ups emphasized the fact that Odua
dynasty was a foreign one that merged with
the autochtonous people. It was the rise of a
new dynasty.He said there were people in
multiple locations in Akure/Ife axis in Yorubaland before the
arrival of Oduduwa. It is worth finding out
more.


There were even several Obas who ruled in Ife before Oduduwa Dynasty came - based on what
I have studied going back to several years now.

The British monarchy led by Queen Elizabeth too is a of a foreign origin
from Germany. King George 1 how is Queen Elizabeth's direct ancestor could not even
speak good English when he arrived from
his country to assume the kingship of England.


My gut feeling tells me you are vast
in first-hand issues that have to do
with the esoteric mysteries of Ile-Ife...


If you go to page 1 of this thread, you will
see where I indicated that I read a magazine
titled: ROOTS in 1991 which emphasized
that some places and personalities in
Ife have names of IGALA origin. The article gave
the impression that Oduduwa was from
Igala land as well. Oloja[Onoja] and some
other names were published which I can't
recall right now but I will share them
with you when I check my archival materials.


Even the controversy involving whether Odudu
duwa came from the Bini area can be solved
via DNA tests such as AfricanAncestry.com
or DNALand.com which are very accurate
in identifying ethnic origins of
African-Americans. Several people traced
their origins to Yorubaland, Ashanti, Quincy Jones for instance has a paternal ancestry
to the Tikar ethnic group in the Bamenda
Region of Cameroon.


Thank you and wish you
a great day ahead! smiley

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Konquest(m): 7:32am On Nov 28, 2017
greatjoey:

Yes, Ibos are the original owners of Ida in that context. But by extension, both Igala and the Ibos are one and the same people. If not for the present change in language due to time, they spoke one language which I cannot mention now. I am sure it was neither Igbo nor Igala but the language spoken by Eri, their father who migrated from the middle east. The arrival of Abutu-eje to Ida was around the 7th century.
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@Greatjoey

Great submission!

But then in the interview that the Attah of Igala granted
to Saturday Punch of 26th August 2017, he said
the significant migrants from Wukari [Jukun]
merged in IDAH with a significant group of Yorubas and Bini, and the a small group of IBO
to form what is NOW IGALA people and
language.

It gives food for thought!

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by greatjoey: 8:32am On Nov 28, 2017
Konquest:

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@Greatjoey

Great submission!

But then in the interview that the Attah of Igala granted
to Saturday Punch of 26th August 2017, he said
the significant migrants from Wukari [Jukun]
merged in IDAH with a significant group of Yorubas and Bini, and the a small group of IBO
to form what is NOW IGALA people and
language.

It gives food for thought!
I understand you my brother. But you must also note that the Atah being a human is not infallible. You will agree with me that there was no how two independent languages that would live together in a small and single community In the pas but spoke different languages. It would either be Igbo or Yoruba. You would also realise that the Yorubas had never lived anywhere close to Igala geographically.
Talking about other smaller group if people who migrated from Wukari alongside, you mention the Idoma (Agatu), the the Ebira, the Aho in Nasarawa, the Etilo in Benue, the Ankwai in Shendan local government area in plateau state, Parts of Nupe etc. Ata Igala was the king who ruled all these tribes until the coming of the British. The British and the Hausas saw that the Atah was so powerful and had to politically made these other tribes realise the need of self determination. They made them see that they could stay on their own. The Hausas having heard the fame and strength of the Ata Igala, waged a war against the Igala kingdom. The war was led by Queen Amina who was a powerful warrior. Having conquered and subjugated the entire core north. But she was killed and buried at Igala kingdom. The grave is there till date. Concerning the Bini (Benin), Atah Ayegba invaded them and conquered. What you see round the neck of Atah Igala till date was seized from the Oba of Bini when he was captured and beheaded. As a sign of conquest, the warriors brought it to Atah and since then, it becomes his. We call it 'Eju b'eju ailo'. So, the Binis were actually Igala neighbour. Until, early 60s, all the tribes I mentioned had to receive and have their chiefs crowned by Ata Igala as Ata was the only king In the region. The various chiefs would have to pay homage to him. This extended down to Asaba, Onitcha and Nsuka too. Thanks.

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Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Alhkerimu(m): 12:13pm On Nov 28, 2017
Houstency:

Omaye mi, Imane onwu Atta mi kwo to, uwé ya?
òmi chi dekina
Re: I Want To Learn Igala Language, Get In Here. by Olu317(m): 8:28pm On Nov 28, 2017
Konquest:

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@Olu317

Oh thanks for emphasising this fact about
immigration and emigration from Ile-Ife.


The Yoruba for instance are an amalgamation
of different peoples who merged with autochtonous communities. Prof. Jide Osuntokun's
write ups emphasized the fact that Odua
dynasty was a foreign one that merged with
the autochtonous people. It was the rise of a
new dynasty.He said there were people in
multiple locations in Akure/Ife axis in Yorubaland before the
arrival of Oduduwa. It is worth finding out
more.


There were even several Obas who ruled in Ife before Oduduwa Dynasty came - based on what
I have studied going back to several years now.

The British monarchy led by Queen Elizabeth too is a of a foreign origin
from Germany. King George 1 how is Queen Elizabeth's direct ancestor could not even
speak good English when he arrived from
his country to assume the kingship of England.


My gut feeling tells me you are vast
in first-hand issues that have to do
with the esoteric mysteries of Ile-Ife...


If you go to page 1 of this thread, you will
see where I indicated that I read a magazine
titled: ROOTS in 1991 which emphasized
that some places and personalities in
Ife have names of IGALA origin. The article gave
the impression that Oduduwa was from
Igala land as well. Oloja[Onoja] and some
other names were published which I can't
recall right now but I will share them
with you when I check my archival materials.


Even the controversy involving whether Odudu
duwa came from the Bini area can be solved
via DNA tests such as AfricanAncestry.com
or DNALand.com which are very accurate
in identifying ethnic origins of
African-Americans. Several people traced
their origins to Yorubaland, Ashanti, Quincy Jones for instance has a paternal ancestry
to the Tikar ethnic group in the Bamenda
Region of Cameroon.


Thank you and wish you
a great day ahead! smiley

The people Yoruba met were the Idoko people, the Ika people, Tapa or Nupe etc that Yoruba had to war against some at one time or the other. And yeah, Odu'a and his group migrated but not in the form some people might think he stumbled upon a people. There were migrations of people seeking access to water and all that. But his story was different because he came as an emissary. The first hand story in the ancient version was that he was an emissary from the East. And no one can come as an emissary except there were a higher authority that sent him. And being an emissary, he identified himself as a prince. Either true or lie,there are certain aspects of the man's tradition that support him as not being linked to any group in Africa. Now, which of the East did he come from? The Eastern part of the present day Nigeria? No, because there is no tradition of Eastern Nigeria people using ram as sacrifice. Was he from the so called Eastern part Yoruba people known as IDU?No, because Ogiso ancestors didn't use Ram as sacrifice. Was he from Eastern part of Africa? No, because no tradition was linked to any group in East Africa using Ram as sacrifice. Admilia From IDOKO cum Present day IGALA? No, because none of their tradition showed any link of using Ram as sacrifice. Was Odu'a from Egypt? No, because Egyptian Ra was identified with Ram and was worshiped .Ram in ancient Egypt was equated to god. From the proper Middle East, who were the ones associated with the use of Ram as a sacrifice? Two groups. The Arabs that were turned to Islamic members over 1500+ years ago and Abraham descendants of Hebrews uses Ram. Was Odu'a an Arab man? No, because patterned usage of Ram as sacrifice was different from the ones used by Islam. In Islam, the ritual of sacrificing Ram is done annually. Unlike Odu'a descendant, that such sacrifice is done on behalf of a male child so that the ram is used as a sacrifice for an exchange of life between the two. I know this tradition very well. If anyone has information on such tradition ,come showcase your findings. In the account of IFE kings, according to Akinjogbin, in which there were identified 46 kings list from the Ikedu oral list. These kings are not traceable in present day ILE IFE.So therefore, the story is deeper than what people think or emotional about. The truth is that Yoruba history didn't start in Nigeria. Like I said, let anyone who has studied other tradition in Nigeria or any part of Africa that find such tradition that Link using of Ram as sacrifice.

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