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Should We Pay Tithe And Offering ? by ajiboye007(m): 10:55pm On Nov 25, 2017
TITHE AND OFFERING


if u are not going to pay tithe ,you shouldn't also pay offering because both are of the same old law .


THEN FROM WHERE THE PASTOR AND PREACHER GET THEIR WAGES ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURE ?.


1 Corinthians 9:14
In the same way, the Lord has prescribed that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.


THEN PAUL WANT AHEAD TO QUOTE FROM THE OLD LAW ,IN WHICH MANY OF YOU ARE QUICK TO QUOTE IN OTHER ATTACKED PASTOR WHO COLLECTS TITHE . PAUL MAKE HIS POINT THAT THE MINISTER OF GOSPEL SHOULD BE PAID FOR THEIR WAGES.


Deuteronomy 25:4
"You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing.


1 Corinthians 9:9-11
For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
10 Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written v for our sake, because
wthe plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop. 11 x If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things


1 timothy 5:17-19
17 Elders who lead effectively are worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. 18 For the Scripture
says, “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and, “The
worker is worthy of his wages.”
19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder, except on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

THAN WHY WE SHOULDN'T ACCUSE PAUL OF CONSISTENCY ?.WHILE YOU PEOPLE ARE SO GOOD QUOTING PAUL THAT CHRIST IS THE END OF LAW ? BUT NOT SO WHEN ITS TIME TO PAY THEIR WAGES USING THE SAME OLD LAW CHRIST HAVE END.

DADDY FREEZE OR WHAT IS HE CALLED, REALLY SEEKING WROTH ON HIMSELF .

ITS A SERIOUS MATTER .
Re: Should We Pay Tithe And Offering ? by Goshen360(m): 11:29pm On Nov 25, 2017
ajiboye007:
TITHE AND OFFERING


if u are not going to pay tithe ,you shouldn't also pay offering because both are of the same old law .


THEN FROM WHERE THE PASTOR AND PREACHER GET THEIR WAGES ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURE ?.


1 Corinthians 9:14
In the same way, the Lord has prescribed that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.


THEN PAUL WANT AHEAD TO QUOTE FROM THE OLD LAW ,IN WHICH MANY OF YOU ARE QUICK TO QUOTE IN OTHER ATTACKED PASTOR WHO COLLECTS TITHE . PAUL MAKE HIS POINT THAT THE MINISTER OF GOSPEL SHOULD BE PAID FOR THEIR WAGES.


Deuteronomy 25:4
"You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing.


1 Corinthians 9:9-11
For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
10 Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written v for our sake, because
wthe plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop. 11 x If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things


1 timothy 5:17-19
17 Elders who lead effectively are worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. 18 For the Scripture
says, “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and, “The
worker is worthy of his wages.”
19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder, except on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

THAN WHY WE SHOULDN'T ACCUSE PAUL OF CONSISTENCY ?.WHILE YOU PEOPLE ARE SO GOOD QUOTING PAUL THAT CHRIST IS THE END OF LAW ? BUT NOT SO WHEN ITS TIME TO PAY THEIR WAGES USING THE SAME OLD LAW CHRIST HAVE END.

DADDY FREEZE OR WHAT IS HE CALLED, REALLY SEEKING WROTH ON HIMSELF .

ITS A SERIOUS MATTER .

First of all, who do you think you are to threaten other Christians just because they don't agree with your tithe scam you and your tithe yahoo pastors are promoting? Why do you begin your argument on a threat?

2. Do you understand what Paul was saying or you reading into Paul letter? If Paul meant TITHE in those verses, would it not be good for him to teach it to the church ACCORDING TO THE LAW also?

3. Paul dismissed teaching that Christians should follow the law and if he meant tithe in those verses, WILL HE PAUL NOT BE CONTRADICTING HIMSELF AND THE WHOLE OF HIS WRITINGS IN DISAGREEMENT WITH EACH OTHER?

4. We can look into what Paul was saying together not you threatening people here. Ok

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Re: Should We Pay Tithe And Offering ? by muelzik(m): 12:33am On Nov 26, 2017
Please patiently read and share. This may help a soul searching for the truth.

ON TITHE...
We need to first understand that there are three dispensation in the Bible.

1. Patriarchal dispensation(from creation to mount Sinai)
2. Mosaical dispensation (from mount Sinai to the cross)
3. Christian dispensation. (from the cross till Jesus Returns)

God dealt with people differently in these Dispensations.

In Patriarchal dispensation, God dealt directly with the fathers. As heads of the family, fathers are responsible to lead their family before God and communicate God's will to their families. Abraham lived in this period. And during this period, there was no law for tithing. But Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedeck. Genesis 14 verse 20. Jacob also, while escaping from Esau, promised to give God a tithe of all that God blessed him with. Genesis 39.

So these are the two occasions where tithe were mentioned before the Mosaic dispensation.

***One thing we must note however is that God does not transfer a particular practice from one dispensation without outrightly commanding it.***

During the Mosaic period, The children of Israel became a Nation because God gave them a law which became a covenant between him and them. This covenant is strictly between Israel as a nation and God. Deuteronomy 5 verse 3 and 4. This covenant also contain the law of tithe, the law of Sabbath, etcetera. When you read through the book of Leviticus through Deuteronomy, you will see the different types of tithe and conditions given for paying tithe. The main reason,you will discover that God commanded tithe payment for the Israelites is because the Levites were not given a physical land to inherit, {it was also meant to feed the poor (Orphans and widows)}. And they, the Levites were the only ones under the Mosaical dispensation who had the right to receive tithes from the others. So, God made it a law for the rest of the Israelites to pay tithes. You will also notice that tithe which is 10% was not the only type of giving the Israelites made. There were other types of freewill offerings, different types of tithes were also commanded. Because the Israelites were failing in keeping this tithe law, was why God said in Malachi 3 verse 8 through 10 that they were robbing Him.

Now let's fast forward to the New Testament, the Christian dispensation. Unlike the Mosaical dispensation which is directed strictly to the Israelites, the New covenant establishes relationship between God and the entire world. And it is the last covenant God is making with mankind.

Remember, God does not carry over a practice from one dispensation to another unless He specifically (whether by direct instruction, by inference and by examples) commands it.

Jesus is the author of the New Testament Matthew 26 verse 26 through 30. The Bible is the record of all that Jesus both taught and did. Acts 1 verse 1 and 2. Although Jesus was born under the law Galatians 4 verse 4, There was no record that Jesus paid,accepted or instructed that tithe should be paid.

Now while Jesus was ascending to heaven, He told His Apostles that they should teach whatever He has commanded. But you will not find a passage of the New Testament where the Apostles paid, taught or instructed that tithe should be paid. Instead, you will see that they instructed free will offering. 1Corinthians 16 verse 1 and 2, 2 Corinthians 9 verse 6 to 9. Acts 20 verse 35. Even Jesus taught freewill giving in Luke 6 verse 36.

Why did Jesus and the Apostles not accept or pay tithes? The answer is simple. Tithes was the prerogatives of the Levites, Jesus was not a levite! He was a descendant of Judah Matthew 1:1-18.

And, now, we are no longer under the Levitical Priesthood. The law has changed. Hebrews chapter 7 through chapter 10. And under this New Testament or covenant, every true believer has been made a PRIEST. (1 Peter 2 verse 9 and Revelations 1 verse 5 and 6).
There are no special group of people to receive tithes under the Christian dispensation. So to pay to any pastor or for any pastor to receive tithes, in the name of keeping God's command, is actually a sin. That is because God has not commanded tithe to be paid in the Christian dispensation.

So, my brothers and sisters and friends, please, you may think you are doing the right thing by paying tithes or even receiving it, but you are actually in the wrong.

But do not take my words for it, search honestly the scriptures for yourself.

God bless you
Tiwalade Richard (Evangelist-in-training)

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Re: Should We Pay Tithe And Offering ? by openmine(m): 3:45am On Nov 26, 2017
ajiboye007:
TITHE AND OFFERING


if u are not going to pay tithe ,you shouldn't also pay offering because both are of the same old law .


THEN FROM WHERE THE PASTOR AND PREACHER GET THEIR WAGES ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURE ?.


1 Corinthians 9:14
In the same way, the Lord has prescribed that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.


THEN PAUL WANT AHEAD TO QUOTE FROM THE OLD LAW ,IN WHICH MANY OF YOU ARE QUICK TO QUOTE IN OTHER ATTACKED PASTOR WHO COLLECTS TITHE . PAUL MAKE HIS POINT THAT THE MINISTER OF GOSPEL SHOULD BE PAID FOR THEIR WAGES.


Deuteronomy 25:4
"You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing.


1 Corinthians 9:9-11
For it is written in the Law of Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
10 Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written v for our sake, because
wthe plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop. 11 x If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things


1 timothy 5:17-19
17 Elders who lead effectively are worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. 18 For the Scripture
says, “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and, “The
worker is worthy of his wages.”
19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder, except on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

THAN WHY WE SHOULDN'T ACCUSE PAUL OF CONSISTENCY ?.WHILE YOU PEOPLE ARE SO GOOD QUOTING PAUL THAT CHRIST IS THE END OF LAW ? BUT NOT SO WHEN ITS TIME TO PAY THEIR WAGES USING THE SAME OLD LAW CHRIST HAVE END.

DADDY FREEZE OR WHAT IS HE CALLED, REALLY SEEKING WROTH ON HIMSELF .

ITS A SERIOUS MATTER .
Do U know that Paul went to the temple to preach to the romans?
Do U know that Paul used the law of moses to preach about Christ?
Why did Paul go all mosaic law abiding in the book of Romans but condemned the people of Galatia for abiding by the law of moses?

Study these scriptures carefully
1 Corinthians 9:19-23

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Re: Should We Pay Tithe And Offering ? by ajiboye007(m): 5:35am On Nov 26, 2017
Levitical Priesthood. The law has changed. Hebrews chapter 7 through chapter 10. And under this New Testament or covenant, every true believer has been made a PRIEST. (1 Peter 2 verse 9 and Revelations 1 verse 5 and 6).


sir u are wrong . tithe doesn't begin with levitical priesthood and if it doesn't begin with them it can end with them, then should then say the faith of Abraham also end ? because giving tithe begins with him and Melchizedek whom first receive tithe is not of levi . God institute tithe to paid to Levit because of the special assignment he give this does not by any means navigate the faith of Abraham and why he give tithe in the first place .

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Why did Jesus and the Apostles not accept or pay tithes? The answer is simple. Tithes was the prerogatives of the Levites, Jesus was not a levite! He was a descendant of Judah Matthew 1:1-18.

sir why jesus and the apostle didnt preach against as well if tithing is of no importance ? the truth is u can argue from silence. the only time jesus talk about was to correct the pharisees in it application not to condemn it .
Luke 11:42 – A parallel bible verse of Matthew 23:23 as Jesus rebukes the Pharisees for not obeying the weightier matters of the law along with tithing.
Luke 18:12 – A Pharisee brags about his obedience to the law and tithing.


the truth is , u are haven't read address the point i made on the post

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