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Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 7:23am On Nov 30, 2017
Wiseandtrue:

You are wallowing in hypocrisy, why not resign the government job since it's not their job to provide work for the masses

Out of all I wrote this is all you can grab

Dr Oduwole my foot!

What is hypocritical about people taking up appointments because they have a conviction they can make a change?

Don't people leave better paying jobs for other roles for sundry reasons?

You made no point.

Government's duty is to provide an enabling environment for the entrepreneurial spirit.

This notion of wanting government to advertise positions in ministries or parastatals is as ignorant as some of you sound.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 7:25am On Nov 30, 2017
ivandragon:



NPower is mostly free money for the touts of APC politicians. most of the beneficiaries are political miscreants who refuse to do a honest day job.

so that welfare crap is dead on arrival.

every country employs a certain percentage of their employable population. some go as high as 40% some as low as 8%... it depends...


the main issue is not whether the present position of government is right or wrong, it is about being held accountable for your promises & what efforts have been made to match actions to words...


within 8 months of this administration, close to 4m 'good' jobs were lost... that is close to 4m people thrown into the labour market due to confused policies of this government.


the same government starts giving handouts to less than 200,000 people who should be gainfully employed in better organisations & some people call it an achievement?


that's robbing peter, moses, Aaron, job, Methuselah, Adam & Silas just to pay Paul...

So you call 200,000 people that have been neglected for years touts?

If you have an organisation that can take on some of these "touts" please engage them.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by finaly01: 7:25am On Nov 30, 2017
She is right but in a unitary system where govt controls all the resources, it cant work.
Had it been we are practicing federal system just like USA that she used to cite her example, the private sector will be empowered fully to employ labour.
As long as we keep practicing this feeding Bottle system where every state a4e

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Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by finaly01: 7:31am On Nov 30, 2017
She is right but in a unitary system where govt controls all the resources, it cant work.
Had it been we are practicing federal system just like USA that she used to cite her example, the private sector will be empowered fully to employ labour.

OR IS AMERICA ALSO PRACTICING FEEDING BOTTLE SYSTEM? ??
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by cstr1000: 7:32am On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:
She has only educate the ignorant who refuse to update themselves with the truth.

Even as this government understand it isn't its duty to provide jobs one can say it has done more than any other in empowering its young ones with Npower which has given hope and stipends to its people.

There would always be the lazy and ignorant amongst us.
You are the ignorant one here.

Everywhere in the sane world, it is the duty of government to provide Jobs. Political candidates campaign on it as a very serious issue.

The US releases quarterly updates on the number of Jobs created by the government directly or indirectly.

If it is not the Job of the government, then whose job is it? Why pay tax if Government can not create Jobs?

I will never take you Nigerians serious. Animals that can't build a decent society is telling me what government should do and shouldn't do?
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 7:33am On Nov 30, 2017
cstr1000:

You are the ignorant one here.

Everywhere in the sane world, it is the duty of government to provide Jobs. Political candidates campaign on it as a very serious issue.

The US releases quarterly updates on the number of Jobs created by the government directly or indirectly.

If it is not the Job of the government, then whose job is it? Why pay tax if Government can not create Jobs?

I will never take you Nigerians serious. Animals that can't build a decent society is telling me what government should do and shouldn't do?

Tell us how many people are directly employed by government in these countries you state.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by finaly01: 7:35am On Nov 30, 2017
She is right but in a unitary system where govt controls all the resources, it cant work.
Had it been we are practicing federal system just like USA that she mentioned to cite her example, the private sector will be fully empowered to employ labour.

OR IS AMERICA ALSO PRACTICING FEEDING BOTTLE SYSTEM? ??
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by ElsonMorali: 7:39am On Nov 30, 2017
Actually it isn't. But It's your job to provide a conducive environment for young entrepreneurs to thrive. Like Good infrastructure e.g Good roads etc and Good social amenities like constant electricity supply and potable water.

Nigerians aren't asking for much, fools. Just the basic necessities taken for granted in downtown South Africa.

I feel like slapping these people walahi.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by cstr1000: 7:41am On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:


Tell us how many people are directly employed by government in these countries you state.
The US military is a major employer of labour. All the large scale manufacturing and repairs that need to be done on US soil require astronomical labour which the US absorbs from the American labour market from different American states.
The US also gives huge projects to companies and stipulate the amount of American labour to be employed as a pre-requisite of contract awarding.

In communist countries like China, the biggest companies especially in manufacturing, power and civil engineering are state companies that employs millions and millions of people.

Which one of the above have you govt done? Infrastructure creation -zero
Maintain Public companies to absorb millions of Nigerians like china have done - zero
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by SHAKABOOM: 7:50am On Nov 30, 2017
ZorGBUooeh:
Sai baba cool
That's true mr president is not ur duty to provide jobs..It is Sarki,yarimo,Omenkalive,mynd44, quotasystem ad co's duty to provide jobs.
Hahahahahaha! Wot a clueless regime cheesy
Hahahaha!Yeske ad bantura zombie group of company should be on that list..Lols cheesy

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Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by Maj196(m): 8:12am On Nov 30, 2017
Trash... What is d role of the govt den?
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 8:28am On Nov 30, 2017
cstr1000:

The US military is a major employer of labour. All the large scale manufacturing and repairs that need to be done on US soil require astronomical labour which the US absorbs from the American labour market from different American states.
The US also gives huge projects to companies and stipulate the amount of American labour to be employed as a pre-requisite of contract awarding.

In communist countries like China, the biggest companies especially in manufacturing, power and civil engineering are state companies that employs millions and millions of people.

Which one of the above have you govt done? Infrastructure creation -zero
Maintain Public companies to absorb millions of Nigerians like china have done - zero

Give us facts and not pulling things from your bum.

Capitalism means enterprise is the hands of the private therefore countries like USA, Germany most nations of the EU do not employ a large swathe of people.

If you have a contrary view, provide stats showing what %of the population is employed by the government of these nations.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by deltaisgreat: 8:59am On Nov 30, 2017
APC = AFTER PYTHON, CROCODILE
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by Wiseandtrue(f): 9:19am On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:


What is hypocritical about people taking up appointments because they have a conviction they can make a change?

Don't people leave better paying jobs for other roles for sundry reasons?

Government's duty is to provide an enabling environment for the entrepreneurial spirit.

This notion of wanting government to advertise positions in ministries or parastatals is as ignorant as some of you sound.
So for your mind, this government is/has provided an enabling environment abi

With all these companies folding up and laying workers off

If this system is working, do you think people would clamour for government job

Even naira is within their caucus cause it's not circulating

Mind you, you and Olajumoke are contradicting yourselves cause no-one and I repeat no one forced this government to provide job

It was one of his electoral promises less you forget!

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Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 9:44am On Nov 30, 2017
Wiseandtrue:

So for your mind, this government is/has provided an enabling environment abi

With all these companies folding up and laying workers off

If this system is working, do you think people would clamour for government job

Even naira is within their caucus cause it's not circulating

Mind you, you and Olajumoke are contradicting yourselves cause no-one and I repeat no one forced this government to provide job

It was one of his electoral promises less you forget!

How can Naira been circulating only within a caucus? Won't they buy houses and cars? Luxury goods?

The government has created employment for 200,000 Npower beneficiaries by so doing fulfilling their campaign promises.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by oneolajire(m): 12:09pm On Nov 30, 2017
Entrepreneurship in Nig is a scam

https://www.nairaland.com/2983340/entrepreneurship-nigeria-scam-multiplier-poverty

Nigeria is a country where all big investors have no inventions (tangible or intangible) to their credit. Bill Gates, Henry Ford, Michael Dell, Thomas Edison and the likes all have products to patent, but most entrepreneurs we have in Nigeria have invented nothing and have made it through dubious means. 

Entrepreneurship/vocational education is government's way of telling the youth and graduates that she (the government) lacks industrialisation and job creation strategies while the youth have been left to fate.

Entrepreneurship/vocational education is government's way of making the youth/graduates look intellectually lazy and burdensome as well as telling them that they are have been abandoned in the valley of unemployment. Unemployment rate increased simply because government owned industries and companies get strangulated by the python of corruption as well as the refusal of the government to establish new ones.

Entrepreneurship in advanced countries is about innovations, inventions, improvements, expansions, people and institutional empowerment. Modern and sophisticated skills are being utilised to manufacture goods and services which culminates into abundant job creation.

Entrepreneurship in Nigeria is of the graduate job seeker told to engage in bead making, soap making, hair dressing, laundry and so on. These businesses have neither inventions nor advancement to add to the business practice and the economy, as they also have little or no impact on the international market. 

Entrepreneurship in Nigeria is also of the rich that colludes with the government to defraud the masses, destroy public corporations and infrastructures in order for them to import alternative goods. The rich set up few enterprises and often pay peanuts to their employees in order to increase their wealth; culminating into increase in poverty level and underemployment in the country.  

The government of advanced countries often invest billion of dollars on education and research, so they always have intellectuals who will offer innovative products and services to the world. These products and services are initially developed into small scale businesses as they many even grow into large enterprises. While Nigeria keeps wasting hard earned funds on Small and Medium Scale (SME) development, yet the businesses are nowhere to be found.

Only an insane person will keep doing the same thing the same way and expect a different result. Am yet to see a nation that got developed by investing so little on the education of her youth and students but spend so much on SME propaganda. Still searching for a nation that gave nothing more than mere, non-professional, common, stark and non-sophisticated skills/training to her youth and achieved rapid industrial development.

Why should we buy a trailer engine, fix it in a car and try to make it compete with an aircraft? Why should we make people earn mere skills and expect them to compete with foreign sophisticated technologies? We have to know that the issue of local production of goods and services is a serious competetion with the developed nations.

Some questions for the proponents of entrepreneurship/vocational education.
 When will out textile, fashion and leather industry be able to make products of international standard? When will a Nigerian mechanic be able to manufacture car engines and other motor parts? When will our furniture makers be able to make furniture that will compete with ones made overseas? When will a computer repairer be able to produce motherboards, memorycards, monitors, just to mention a few?

Did America achieved greatness by emphasising on vocational trainings on how to make shoe polish, bake cake, produce detergents, event decorations , frying akara and establishment of football viewing centres? Did Britain get it right by teaching her youth how to start a beer palour and salon businesses or by ensuring technological dynamism? I wondered if it is mere phone repair training was what brought China among world's  mobile phone producers. Over and over again, I see entrepreneurship and vocational education as a scam.

Take a look at the furniture industry in Nigeria, you'll discover it is almost dead because foreign furniture has flooded the Nigerian market. Foreign furniture makers have been able to introduce much variety of products with various designs, even at exorbitant prices, yet people still buy them. Imported furniture  attains this much because modern machines are regularly produced to make new designs of furniture, but here in Nigeria, we only buy simple tools, we don't engage in design and manufacture of  machines/tools to be used in the furniture industry, so we are perpetually making furniture that cannot compete with the foreign ones. It is only engineering that provides modern machines, stack entrepreneurship cannot.

Entrepreneurship and and vocational education has never helped Nigeria in the manufacture of modern machines for production of finished goods that can compete favourably with imported ones. The best entrepreneurship has offered us is to use social media means to engage in selling of imported products as well as setting up of few businesses with the use of foreign machines. It is appaling for government to still keep preaching the sermon that can never bring solutions to us.

Every sector of the Nigerian economy has been badly affected by the erroneous policy of entrepreneurship and vocational education. From the agricultural sector to the transportation sector, from manufacturing to education, from construction to entertainment, name it, we have rendered our nation incapacitated when it comes to production of goods and services. There can never be abundant job opportunities as long as we keep executing this lame practice. 

I wonder why we have not given so much vocational training to professional operating as doctors, nurses and pharmacist in the medical field. We give this set of people trainings that can make them compete favourably with their foreign counterpart. I believe it should appear proper to the government to substitute entrepreneurship and vocational education with the training they receive in the teaching hospitals.  The government (after emptying the laboratories and workshops of polytechniques and universities) substituted requisite training for our engineers and scientist with entrepreneurship and vocational training, so they are rendered handicapped when it comes to provision of modern goods and services as well as job creation.

It is high time we changed our job creation policy of entrepreneurship and vocational studies to provision of qualitative education at all levels, especially science and technology education so that Nigerian graduates would possess requisite modern and sophisticated skills for our nation and the world market at large. It is only qualitative education and intensive research that can initiate intellectual thinking for creation of innovative goods and services.
 
Entrepreneurship and vocational studies have been found to have contributed immensely only to economy of nations with massive investments in education and research. Singapore and South Korea are the examples of nations that have eradicated illiteracy and have invested huge funds into science and technology education, so entrepreneurship thrives there.

Let the laboratories and workshops of our secondary schools and higher institutions be adequately equipped with modern and facilities so as to provide avenues for learning practicals. We need to replicate the likes of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who utilised the qualitative education they obtained in the tetiary institutions to create worldwide business ventures in their fields.

Real entrepreneurship is when Nigerian graduates of electrical engineers can produce transformers, power generation turbines, alternators, televisions from local technologies. Metallurgical engineers must be able to produce steel for oil and gas pipelines as well as in train and car manufacturing. Combustion engines, pumps, hydraulic and pneumatic parts must be what our mechanical engineers must be able to manufacture from their companies. Businesses of agricultural science graduates should able to feed the nation cos they should empowered to do so. This is what is called real entrepreneurship.

Businesses that leads to industrialisation are offshoots of science and technological discoveries and investments. The kind of entrepreneurship Nigeria needs is one in which Nigerian chemical engineers can set up refineries and petrochemical companies with the aid local resources. I would also love to see mobile phones, computers and other information technology gadgets developed and commercialised by Nigerian graduates of computer science. 

The entrepreneurship that Nigeria needs is one in which local engineering enterprises will be able to metamorphous  into multinationals like General Electric, Ford Motors, Chevron, Microsoft Corporations,Tata Steel and the likes. This is how we can solve the problem of unemployment as well as put an end to the massive importation of good in Nigeria. However, with this, Nigeria will become industrialised and be listed among the developed nations of the world.


This is part one of the article. I wrote this article last year, and made nairaland frontpage last yr

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Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by loveth360(f): 12:14pm On Nov 30, 2017
That one concerns zombies waiting for buhari to give them job.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by PMWSpirit(m): 5:05pm On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:

Please tell us where government is the highest employer of labour.
Note:
Government is the highest employer of labour in this country.
Bros face front and go study Eco 102,202and 302. Btw where i live , city workers are the highest. Direct or indirectly
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by ivandragon: 7:34pm On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:


So you call 200,000 people that have been neglected for years touts?

If you have an organisation that can take on some of these "touts" please engage them.


I will... after you give employment to the 4m who lost their jobs...
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 8:08pm On Nov 30, 2017
PMWSpirit:

Bros face front and go study Eco 102,202and 302. Btw where i live , city workers are the highest. Direct or indirectly

There is no where you live that government employs the most people.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by PMWSpirit(m): 8:17pm On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:


There is no where you live that government employs the most people.
ok sir noted
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 8:18pm On Nov 30, 2017
PMWSpirit:
ok sir noted

Good
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by PMWSpirit(m): 8:39pm On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:


Good
but do me a favor, read on the highest employer of labor btw the public sector and the private sector of a proper economy. Thank you in advance. Just read and keep it to yourself sir
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 8:53pm On Nov 30, 2017
PMWSpirit:
but do me a favor, read on the highest employer of labor btw the public sector and the private sector of a proper economy. Thank you in advance. Just read and keep it to yourself sir

You come to a forum with outlandish claims thinking you are talking to dummies or local peeps.

No matter the country you are talking about, the private sector is the greatest employer.
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by PMWSpirit(m): 9:21pm On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:


You come to a forum with outlandish claims thinking you are talking to dummies or local peeps.

No matter the country you are talking about, the private sector is the greatest employer.
Bros no vex oo , the public sector encompasses every aspect of the economy, do you know how many peeps are in the armed forces alone, police, public infrastructure, education sector, health sector , transportation, agriculture the list goes on. The private sector is a fraction of all these . Argue with facts
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by GavelSlam: 9:28pm On Nov 30, 2017
PMWSpirit:
Bros no vex oo , the public sector encompasses every aspect of the economy, do you know how many peeps are in the armed forces alone, police, public infrastructure, education sector, health sector , transportation, agriculture the list goes on. The private sector is a fraction of all these . Argue with facts

Still tell me what nation collectively employs more than half its workforce in the public sector. Stop beating around the Bush.

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Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by PMWSpirit(m): 9:34pm On Nov 30, 2017
GavelSlam:


Still tell me what nation collectively employs more than half its workforce in the public sector. Stop beating around the Bush.
bro i hear you. Know what you know, let me know what i know . Shebi dat way we can have a handshake and walk away. Oya collect ✋
Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by Codeofconduct(m): 6:52pm On Dec 01, 2017
GavelSlam:


What is hypocritical about people taking up appointments because they have a conviction they can make a change?

Don't people leave better paying jobs for other roles for sundry reasons?

You made no point.

Government's duty is to provide an enabling environment for the entrepreneurial spirit.

This notion of wanting government to advertise positions in ministries or parastatals is as ignorant as some of you sound.

more blessings fall on you there,
lolz

i'm not a pro APC person,
but she was not wrong in any of her claims.

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Re: It's Not Government's Role To Provide Jobs -Presidency Drops Bombshell by ernieboy(m): 8:53am On Dec 02, 2017
providing jobs and directly employing people are two different things. while the govt cannot directly employ all it is still the responsibility of govt to provide employment either through promotion of grants and low interest loans and creation of enabling environment for entrepreneur s to thrive, in civilized clime the unemployment stats is an important economic stat on which various admins are judged.


this is a firm confirmation that this admin and the people who make up the admin do not understand the very basic responsibilities of govt and it is very sad.

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