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Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by gare(f): 2:58pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
duepurpose: Who are the wise one, mention name too. |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by mrvitalis(m): 2:59pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
[quote author=gare post=62885867][/quote] Non of your bible verse told us how to tithe The only detailed way to tithe is in deutronomy 14:22-29 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by iamkneeyi: 3:01pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
gare:shut up 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by gare(f): 3:02pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
[quote author=somehow post=62885520]God have mercy on the blind. Is this all you can say? I thought you were going to use the bible to counter me and show me the way? Freeze didn't teach me all these, the bible did, what I explained is in the Bible not from freezes mouth. Are you truly a bible believing Christian? Do you truly read your bible? May the knowledge of his word not depart from us finally! How do you know he's not the right person to preach the word? Because he's not wearing suit and doesn't own a church? Once he puts on a suit and open a church, you will then take him serious? You think he's more sinful than you or the pastors attacking him for pointing people to be bible? Is suleman more Christian than freeze? Adeboye more of Christian than freeze? Oyakhilomen, okotie, oritstejafor, oyedepo, ibiyome more Christian than freeze because?[/quote God knows we are naturally inclined to be selfish and will want to keep our money. So while, yes, we should give cheerfully, sometimes we need to take the step and actually give regardless of our internal feelings. The act of giving allows God to change our hearts so that ultimately we end up doing so cheerfully. Many of us, if we let our natural minds decide how much to give, would likely opt for a lot less than 10%. Having a standard keeps us accountable. |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by BanevsJoker(m): 3:02pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
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Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by ooshinibos: 3:02pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
somehow:I disagree with you , Jesus did not say people should not pay tithe , this is very clear . Tithing did not happen under the law . as I said before ,tithing is not for everyone and its optional under the grace we have now , you should focus on your country men that have abused the sacred offering of tithing .. As per tithing in the new testament it was not mentioned in the Bible ( except in the book of Hebrew ) , , I believe if tithing was made a law in the new testament ,it will limit people , people gave more than 10 percent in the early Christians days , lets not get stuck on the word tithe , it means 10 percent of you income , early Christian gave more than 10 percent exceeding the law sef ( some gave lands and houses to the church , that's why flourished my than the modern day Christians and no one was poor , I believe Christian of nowadays should give more than 10 percent , again it should be optional ..our of your heart not by compulsion .. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by gare(f): 3:04pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
iamkneeyi: It is well with you |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by martineverest(m): 3:09pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
somehow:I drop my Mike here.... U finish work 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Hahjascho(m): 3:10pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
This freeze just wann make himself popular ......Ignorant of mind |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by gare(f): 3:10pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
mrvitalis: Bros Tithing is an Old Testament concept. The tithe was a requirement of the Law in which the Israelites were to give 10 percent of the crops they grew and the livestock they raised to the tabernacle/temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5). In fact, the Old Testament Law required multiple tithes—one for the Levites, one for the use of the temple and the feasts, and one for the poor of the land—which would have pushed the total to around 23.3 percent. Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites in the sacrificial system. After the death of Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law, the New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. The New Testament nowhere designates a percentage of income a person should set aside, but only says gifts should be “in keeping with income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Some in the Christian church have taken the 10 percent figure from the Old Testament tithe and applied it as a “recommended minimum” for Christians in their giving. The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the body of Christ. Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter of participating in tithing and/or how much to give (James 1:5). Above all, all tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7). |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Nobody: 3:15pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo is a disgrace and I don't reckon with want he said about YOYO he is a pastor for Christ sake and pastors are suppose to be of good conduct in both manners and discipline he shouldn't have talked about someone like that...even Jesus said leave them for they don't know what they are doing?..why would a man of God diss someone as an adulterer in public so shameful and unconvincing... and people are paying tithes to him..after hearing this I will just leave that church period 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by martineverest(m): 3:15pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
pafisayo:that dude hasn't done anything.... He only brought the verses that quite supported tithing... But the last 1 verses condenmed tithing..... The Hebrew 7 he gave discusses the importance of tithing at d early verses.... But later made it unimportant.. I have noticed that most ppl using dat verse as stronghold tend dodge the part that annulled tithing 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Nobody: 3:18pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
gare:Does the so called church allow people be? Talk of road evangelism, prayer vigil, loudspeakers, 5 services every sunday, noise here and there. I even thought sunday was you people's worship day. Now it is every day abi? 3 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by buchibrand(m): 3:23pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:Good, please note that if it turns to insult or argument I will no longer respond, but I will NEVER insult anyone. Now Abram paid tithe through revelation and after that tithe was introduced okay, then later in Malachi 2&3 God was warning and condemning His Priests for not warning His people in their evil, atrocities and tithing; then from verse 8 He started re-emphasising it again (please the person who said God was referring to priests in Tithing, read Verse:9 again). So your pastor is not wrong in asking you to pay tithe, but it will be very wrong if he forces you to pay or chase you out of God's presence because of tithe. My Own Revelation on this: if we are still claiming the blessings of Abraham and the grace of God upon David and quoting the Psalms and neglect the things they all did, we (including me) have become hypocrites (Matthew 23:23). Please I have no keys to heaven but I have someone who alone has the keys to heaven (JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH). 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by hisgrace090: 3:26pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
somehow: You nailed it, thank you. |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by hisgrace090: 3:29pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
buchibrand: Abraham pays tithe from the spoil of war, not from his income or work. And he did it once not even twize. 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by walexsho(m): 3:34pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Some people are here to defend the livelihood of their faters who are Pastor 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by buchibrand(m): 3:37pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
somehow: You have a wonderful point here sir, but please read Malachi 3:9. God was referring to his priests in Chapter 2, condemning them for not warning His people, but 3:8 and below was referring to the Whole Nation V9. Please if you are a bible believer becareful in what you pass across, so that you don't turn the hearts of the little ones away from God. |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Geesaintagape: 3:44pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Mumu pastor quarelling on the pulpit. Freeze didn't quarel but preached the bible100%. So disprove Him using the bible not instigate pple against his family life. Apostle Paul whose msg u read was a murderer, so why accepting his word instead discard his book 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by InvertedHammer: 3:44pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
majekdom2: You got it wrong. There are a lot of poor, illiterate christians that can neither read nor write. They believe what the pastors say. It gets worse when the pastors threaten them with curses if they don't tithe. Coercing poor followers to tithe with a threat of eternal damnation is extortion. Freeze is only trying to educate them. Freeze does not stand infront of churches with whips to beat diehard tithe morons. // 4 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by somehow: 3:48pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
buchibrand: Okay but some of you are actually the ones passing wrong teachings across. Malachi was a prophet sent by God to the children of Israel but he was mostly there to warn the leaders and the priest. Malachi 3 is a continuation of Malachi 2. Please read with an empty heart/mind. Read like you are just trying to know what Malachi came for. Apart from Malachi, I hope you know who a levite is and what qualifies one to be a levite? I also hope you know the priests are also levites but don't take tithe directly from the people rather other levites bring 1/10th to the priest solely for burnt offerings (attornment of sin) and storing the temple (for meat/food purposes)? 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by PaChukwudi44(m): 3:50pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
buchibrand: mattew 23:23 never asked Christians to tithe.That verse was talking to jews and it even stated that tithes was not even amongst the weightier matters of the law even as at then Matthew 23:23Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by somehow: 3:50pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
2 questions for you. Did Jesus, his disciples or any of the early Christians pay tithe? Secondly, do we still levites? Infact do we have levites in Nigeria? ooshinibos: 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Lucifer1419: 3:54pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Donald7610:waw, how you take know say him lie pass lucifer |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Nobody: 3:56pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
ooshinibos: What did the early Christians use the tithes for? |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by buchibrand(m): 3:57pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
somehow:What threat? No threat oh, it was my candid advice. When a prophet is declaring the word of God, hes only telling you exactly what God is saying; prophets are oracle/mouthpiece of God. Please if you need a blogger blog or template or you know someone who will need one, just contact me on my siggy, please i need money so i can pay my tithe. |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by somehow: 3:57pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
No, God doesn't need your money, he doesn't eat money. The only way you can give money to God is when you give to the fatherless, windows, widowers, motherless, orphans, helpless, needy, homeless, strangers (those that can't refund you) without anyone knowing about it. That was what Jesus taught his disciples a bout giving. Giving without compulsion unlike tithe that you are enticed or threatened with devourer if you don't want to pay. Matthew 25:25-40 2 Corinthians 9:7 Luke 6 vs 35:36[quote author=gare post=62885999][/quote] |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Nobody: 3:59pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
buchibrand: Who were the whole Nation? |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by somehow: 4:00pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
No, God doesn't need your money, he doesn't eat money. The only way you can give money to God is when you give to the fatherless, windows, widowers, motherless, orphans, helpless, needy, homeless, strangers (those that can't refund you) without anyone knowing about it. That was what Jesus taught his disciples a bout giving. Giving without compulsion unlike tithe that you are enticed or threatened with devourer if you don't want to pay. Matthew 25:25-40 2 Corinthians 9:7 Luke 6 vs 35:36 gare: Let's discuss the issue and talk less about ourselves. Let our fruits talk for us. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Nobody: 4:00pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
InvertedHammer:pls post names and links to pastors coercing thcate, he should mention names of pastors that coerce their followers and not say all pastors that preach tithes are thieves. That's a wrong approach. Being specific is very important and not making general statements. Again, it depends on how we understand sermons. You call them illiterate and uneducated, how will they have access to freeze's sermon. How will they read and understand's freeze message. In my opinion, freeze is not solving the problem you mentioned above. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Nobody: 4:02pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Akin1212: Thought you watched the video? Well, most preachers preach emotionally/passionately and he paused midway to caution Freeze not to determine what Christians should belief but should rather clean up his house. |
Re: Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo Blasts Daddy Freeze For Teaching Against Tithing VIDEO by Nobody: 4:03pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
blackpanda: I don't think so. News has it that he pastors in the UK till date. |
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