As an excuse for why she should not be called to bar with hijab many people have brought up the position of Christians wearing religious clothing or traditional people wearing masks when called to bar. I diasgree with them it is not equivalent.

In a controversy such as this there is no law forbiding use of hijab, choir robe, cult mask or any other wearable item to attend dinner or go into bar but it would be a ridiculous situation if permitted. If someone shows up wearing a non-conventional item they should be put through a "live test".

Live Test

verb - If you live by a particular rule, belief, or ideal, you behave in the way in which it says you should behave.

verb - If you say that someone lives in particular circumstances or that they live a particular kind of life, you mean that they are in those circumstances or that they have that kind of life.

In order to have a better society, public opinion should weigh in after applying Live Test to each of the possible scenarios.

Is hijab a part of daily garment for Amasa? When she was in UNILORIN was it part of her garments to lecture rooms? If she passes this Live Test public opinion says Yes, hijab will continue as part of her garments when called to bar.

Does the christian wear a choir robe everyday and everywhere they go? If it passes the Live Test public opinion should hold in their favour.

Does the traditionist wear his mask everyday, everywhere, including lecture room and at dinner table? If it passes the Live Test, then public opinion is on their side.

Using this simple rule will help filter out ridiculous claims and rest this matter.

I cant fault ur argument! Wehdon sir

Baba keep smoking that shiiit

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BabaRamota1980:
As an excuse for why she should not be called to bar with hijab many people have brought up the position of Christians wearing religious clothing or traditional people wearing masks when called to bar. I diasgree with them it is not equivalent.

In a controversy such as this there is no law forbiding use of hijab, choir robe, cult mask or any other wearable item to attend dinner or go into bar but it would be a ridiculous situation if permitted. If someone shows up wearing a non-conventional item they should be put through a "live test".

Live Test

verb - If you live by a particular rule, belief, or ideal, you behave in the way in which it says you should behave.

verb - If you say that someone lives in particular circumstances or that they live a particular kind of life, you mean that they are in those circumstances or that they have that kind of life.

In order to have a better society, public opinion should weigh in after applying Live Test to each of the possible scenarios.

Is hijab a part of daily garment for Amasa? When she was in UNILORIN was it part of her garments to lecture rooms? If she passes this Live Test public opinion says Yes, hijab will continue as part of her garments when called to bar.

Does the christian wear a choir robe everyday and everywhere they go? If it passes the Live Test public opinion should hold in their favour.

Does the traditionist wear his mask everyday, everywhere, including lecture room and at dinner table? If it passes the Live Test, then public opinion is on their side.

Using this simple rule will help filter out ridiculous claims and rest this matter.

Nice perspective to look at it, nice thinking

ashjay001:
I cant fault ur argument! Wehdon sir

domack99:


Nice perspective to look at it, nice thinking

Thanks. To make a better society we have to start somewhere, a neutral ground for value-proofing.

The wearing of hijab in this instance was against the NBA rules. She can always wear it before and after the ceremony. In this case she said she wore it intentionally against the rules to creat uproar and eventually bend the,NBA rules to accommodate hers and we all know Nigerians are religion sensitive. That's not nice atall. We also have Christian sisters who don't wear trousers but wore the NYSC uniform, it doesn't make them sinners or reduce their spirituality.

BabaRamota1980:
As an excuse for why she should not be called to bar with hijab many people have brought up the position of Christians wearing religious clothing or traditional people wearing masks when called to bar. I diasgree with them it is not equivalent.

In a controversy such as this there is no law forbiding use of hijab, choir robe, cult mask or any other wearable item to attend dinner or go into bar but it would be a ridiculous situation if permitted. If someone shows up wearing a non-conventional item they should be put through a "live test".

Live Test

verb - If you live by a particular rule, belief, or ideal, you behave in the way in which it says you should behave.

verb - If you say that someone lives in particular circumstances or that they live a particular kind of life, you mean that they are in those circumstances or that they have that kind of life.

In order to have a better society, public opinion should weigh in after applying Live Test to each of the possible scenarios.

Is hijab a part of daily garment for Amasa? When she was in UNILORIN was it part of her garments to lecture rooms? If she passes this Live Test public opinion says Yes, hijab will continue as part of her garments when called to bar.

Does the christian wear a choir robe everyday and everywhere they go? If it passes the Live Test public opinion should hold in their favour.

Does the traditionist wear his mask everyday, everywhere, including lecture room and at dinner table? If it passes the Live Test, then public opinion is on their side.

Using this simple rule will help filter out ridiculous claims and rest this matter.

If she commits am offence and she is sent to prison will she insist on wearing the hijab. From her posts so far, ahe knew the rule befor she even graduated but ahe went their in defiance to prove a point.
There are rules goverming every organisation or institution. Will she insist on wearing the hijab if she was in the molitary or police.
Op, your logic is skewed.

simsay:
The wearing of hijab in this instance was against the NBA rules. She can always wear it before and after the ceremony. In this case she said she wore it intentionally against the rules to creat uproar and eventually bend the,NBA rules to accommodate hers and we all know Nigerians are religion sensitive. That's not nice atall. We also have Christian sisters who don't wear trousers but wore the NYSC uniform, it doesn't make them sinners or reduce their spirituality.

Thats what im saying. NBA belongs to the practicing professionals. It is not a perfect body. As an extension of society, controversies such as this....where there is a clear contravention of law should not be debated. It is already resolved by a law which says Amasa has the right to wear hijab. NBA has no claim of superiority or heirarchy above law.

What is in contention, and which im addressing, is the broad application that if Amasa is permitted by law, then anyone can dress in a garment that catches their fancy and show up to be called to bar. You can imagine the chaos and comical effect when someone shows up in egungun garment or some other similar outfit.
Such a parade is a retrogade to the society. We want to keep advancing, not go back in our civility. So how do you filter what is acceptable dress code and which is not? The law already said they all are, even the egungun dress. There is a process called "popular public opinion". It is sometimes also called "popular public interest". These are sets of rules that a society hold true to itself and passes as a convention of public life and orderliness. It is not necessarily found in law statutes but its an aid to living in harmony within a society.

For instance there is no law that forbids a woman from going braless in public. The law demands decent covering of the body. So how do interprete braless appearance as indecent? This is part of the effect of popular public opinion that the society would prefer women appear in public with their breasts veiled from view. This is just a simple quick sample and there are many very strong ones i can relate.

So my focus is filtering of the extreme appearances to bar so that we do not submit civility to ridicule.

The jury on what is acceptable or not should be "popular public interest" using Live Test to proof the case.

Whatever a traditionist wear as part of daily living and in observance of his/her traditional faith in public appearance passes the Live Test.

Whatever a Christian wears as part of keeping faith in everyday, everywhere presence will pass the Live Test.

No one has denied that Amasa does not wear hijab everyday and everywhere as part of her observation of Islamic faith.

ogmask:


If she commits am offence and she is sent to prison will she insist on wearing the hijab. From her posts so far, ahe knew the rule befor she even graduated but ahe went their in defiance to prove a point.
There are rules goverming every organisation or institution. Will she insist on wearing the hijab if she was in the molitary or police.
Op, your logic is skewed.

Our lawyers wear the wig because we have to keep the British convention. In actuality, there is no compulsion on us to keep the wig. The wig is not a substance of the judicial practice. Whether you wear wig or not does not change the substance of law. So why do lawyers wear wig? For distinction, no more no less! To be able to stand out in public and be easily identified as a lawyer.

It is intimidating, no one wants to offend lawyer. It is a relic of privilege. They are entitled to it, but not to the point that it becomes sacred. Looks like they are making the wig sacred.

BabaRamota1980:


Thats what im saying. NBA belongs to the practicing professionals. It is not a perfect body. As an extension of society, controversies such as this....where there is a clear contravention of law should not be debated. It is already resolved by a law which says Amasa has the right to wear hijab. NBA has no claim of superiority or heirarchy above law.

What is in contention, and which im addressing, is the broad application that if Amasa is permitted by law, then anyone can dress in a garment that catches their fancy and show up to be called to bar. You can imagine the chaos and comical effect when someone shows up in egungun garment or some other similar outfit.
Such a parade is a retrogade to the society. We want to keep advancing, not go back in our civility. So how do you filter what is acceptable dress code and which is not? The law already said they all are, even the egungun dress. There is a process called "popular public opinion". It is sometimes also called "popular public interest". These are sets of rules that a society hold true to itself and passes as a convention of public life and orderliness. It is not necessarily found in law statutes but its an aid to living in harmony within a society.

For instance there is no law that forbids a woman from going braless in public. The law demands decent covering of the body. So how do interprete braless appearance as indecent? This is part of the effect of popular public opinion that the society would prefer women appear in public with their breasts veiled from view. This is just a simple quick sample and there are many very strong ones i can relate.

So my focus is filtering of the extreme appearances to bar so that we do not submit civility to ridicule.

The jury on what is acceptable or not should be "popular public interest" using Live Test to proof the case.

Whatever a traditionist wear as part of daily living and in observance of his/her traditional faith in public appearance passes the Live Test.

Whatever a Christian wears as part of keeping faith in everyday, everywhere presence will pass the Live Test.

No one has denied that Amasa does not wear hijab everyday and everywhere as part of her observation of Islamic faith.

Well, if you go through the updates, the case has been taking to court, and it was ruled that only the body (the NBA )can judge the case as it's an internal affair.
Now, the said lady has killed her career on this hijab issue, everyone will mark her face. If she comes to the ceremony next year without the hijab, it would be a big disgrace for her and her supporters. If she comes next year with the hijab, the organisers will take their time to deal with. Because as I said earlier the case dint fly in court.

There's is picture of a nun who took her veil off to be called to bar.

All of this cos she couldn't do away with the hijab like her fellow sisters for just a ceremony she has spent 5years to study.

I know you support her. But what has she gained from the chaos she created. Unless she is able to really fight it in court, she's in a big mess

simsay:


Well, if you go through the updates, the case has been taking to court, and it was ruled that only the body (the NBA )can judge the case as it's an internal affair.
Now, the said lady has killed her career on this hijab issue, everyone will mark her face. If she comes to the ceremony next year without the hijab, it would be a big disgrace for her and her supporters. If she comes next year with the hijab, the organisers will take their time to deal with. Because as I said earlier the case dint fly in court.

There's is picture of a nun who took her veil off to be called to bar.

All of this cos she couldn't do away with the hijab like her fellow sisters for just a ceremony she has spent 5years to study.

I know you support her. But what has she gained from the chaos she created. Unless she is able to really fight it in court, she's in a big mess

You read what I wrote but Im not sure you understand.

IN ORDER TO BETTER OUR SOCIETY....popular public opinion ought to prevail in a neutral value proofing mechanism such as in this case a Live Test.

We have been agitating for transfer of power to youths. We have to demonstrate capacity for intelligence and competence to lead society.

BabaRamota1980:


You read what I wrote but Im not sure you understand.

IN ORDER TO BETTER OUR SOCIETY....popular public opinion ought to prevail in a neutral value proofing mechanism such as in this case a Live Test.

We have been agitating for transfer of power to youths. We have to demonstrate capacity for intelligence and competence to lead society.

I do agree with your assertions. The world best democratic system have a strong footing on the popular public opinion. But am sorry if you bring it down to Africa it won't work ( maybe it will work in 100yrs time) because we are divided along religious, tribal and sentiment lines. If you want to put want to put this hijabi thing to people's opinion, we would have a religious was, you have seen some of it on nairaland alone the socalled next generation. This is the reason why the court is the only place to settle scores. If we are to go by public opinion in Nigeria, the northerners will have their way in almost ever thing whereas they are the most backward, sorry to say but it's true

simsay:
The wearing of hijab in this instance was against the NBA rules. She can always wear it before and after the ceremony. In this case she said she wore it intentionally against the rules to creat uproar and eventually bend the,NBA rules to accommodate hers and we all know Nigerians are religion sensitive. That's not nice atall. We also have Christian sisters who don't wear trousers but wore the NYSC uniform, it doesn't make them sinners or reduce their spirituality.

Can you provide proof for the above?
Nice write up OP.

There's a way and manner to adjusting rules and you don't honestly expect that they'll waive even a flawed rule for her because it conflicts with her beliefs.
Heck same Nigeria where people were allowed to die in some emergency rooms because they were not accompanied by police reports?
They should go and press for an adjustment.