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Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:04am On Dec 19, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-788Upky2Y




Christopher Langan has an IQ of about 200 . He has written so many impressive works , one of which is the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU) which "explains the connection between mind and reality, therefore the presence of cognition and universe in the same phrase". He calls his proposal "a true 'Theory of Everything', a cross between John Archibald Wheeler's 'Participatory Universe' and Stephen Hawking's 'Imaginary Time' theory of cosmology."


In conjunction with his ideas, Langan has claimed:


"You can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."

Asked about creationism, Langan has said:


"I believe in the theory of evolution, but I believe as well in the allegorical truth of creation theory. In other words, I believe that evolution, including the principle of natural selection, is one of the tools used by God to create mankind. Mankind is then a participant in the creation of the universe itself, so that we have a closed loop. I believe that there is a level on which science and religious metaphor are mutually compatible."

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by Topccy007: 12:05am On Dec 19, 2017
Ok
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by thesicilian: 12:13am On Dec 19, 2017
I disagree.
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:15am On Dec 19, 2017
thesicilian:
I disagree.

Who is the smartest Christian alive then ?
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:22am On Dec 19, 2017
Isaac Newton , Father of Modern Physics and Christian theologian , had an IQ of 190 . THere are other smart Christians with high IQs . In fact , out of 10 highest IQs on earth, at least 8 are theists' and at least 6 are Christians'

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by CoolUsername: 1:05am On Dec 19, 2017
I wonder how Isaac Newton's IQ was determined.
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:17am On Dec 19, 2017
CoolUsername:
I wonder how Isaac Newton's IQ was determined.

From the nature of his works I guess . His works were really profound .
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by GodDeyCraze: 1:30am On Dec 19, 2017
Which one come be smartest Christian again
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:46am On Dec 19, 2017
GodDeyCraze:
Which one come be smartest Christian again

He is the smartest amongst all of us and is still a staunch Christian.

He is also smarter than every atheist in the world

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by GodDeyCraze: 3:16am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


He is the smartest amongst all of us and is still a staunch Christian.

He is also smarter than every atheist in the world



Are you saying he is the smartest/most intelligent person in the world?

Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by dalaman: 3:47am On Dec 19, 2017
Was Jesus a creationist or an evolutionist? The guy is smart enough to discard the mythology of the bible and embrace his own scientific mythology. He mixed the two up. He claimed without providing any evidence that


"You can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."


He should do that already and win a Nobel Peace prize na.

It's easy to make baseless claims na. Proving them is always the problem.

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by JackBizzle: 4:21am On Dec 19, 2017
dalaman:
Was Jesus a creationist or an evolutionist? The guy is smart enough to discard the mythology of the bible and embrace his own scientific mythology. He mixed the two up. He claimed without providing any evidence that


"You can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."


He should do that already and win a Nobel Peace prize na.

It's easy to make baseless claims na. Proving them is always the problem.


Kingebukasblog has started with his fallacious arguments again.

IQ is one measure amongst many measures of intelligence.

There are people with high IQ that lack emotional intelligence. They can't relate with others.



Furthermore, mathematics cannot prove the existence of anything in the physical world. Numbers themselves do not exist. For this 'smart' Christian to claim that mathematics can prove God, he must be on some good weed.

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:35am On Dec 19, 2017
dalaman:
Was Jesus a creationist or an evolutionist? The guy is smart enough to discard the mythology of the bible and embrace his own scientific mythology. He mixed the two up. He claimed without providing any evidence that


"You can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."


He should do that already and win a Nobel Peace prize na.

It's easy to make baseless claims na. Proving them is always the problem.

Many smart Christians today see the creation story as an allegory and embrace evolution or they embrace special creationism which is the hybridization of creationism and evolution.

This is the 1 474 574th time we are having this same discussion. Sir, ain't you tired of repeating the same things over and over again ?

Have you read his work -the CTMU - before trying to criticise simply because he is a Christian ?

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:46am On Dec 19, 2017
JackBizzle:



Kingebukasblog has started with his fallacious arguments again.

IQ is one measure amongst many measures of intelligence.

There are people with high IQ that lack emotional intelligence. They can't relate with others.

See how desperately you are trying to undermine the IQ simply because many theists and Christians have the highest IQs

IQ measures how logically you can think mostly , one's problem solving abilities and these people are on the high side . If it upsets you , you can go and hug transformer. smiley



Furthermore, mathematics cannot prove the existence of anything in the physical world. Numbers themselves do not exist. For this 'smart' Christian to claim that mathematics can prove God, he must be on some good weed.


I'm pretty sure he has at least 3 times your IQ and someone as smart as Chris Langan does know what he is talking about .

I haven't seen his argument or work on it but I think it would be based on the applicability of mathematics in a physical world : Since numbers, mathematical objects are mind-dependent and mathematics is the language of nature then it would only point to the existence of an ultimate mind

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:12am On Dec 19, 2017
GodDeyCraze:



Are you saying he is the smartest/most intelligent person in the world?

They say his IQ could be higher than that so maybe he is the smartest in the world
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by sonofthunder: 8:39am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


He is the smartest amongst all of us and is still a staunch Christian.

He is also smarter than every atheist in the world
Lol... lemme go and prepare coffee... This thread may get longer than I anticipated.

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by Squillaci: 8:44am On Dec 19, 2017
@Kingebukasblog,
What standard deviation was used to gauge his IQ? Because I know with standard deviation of 15 IQ of 195 does not exist as it is greater than 1 in 8 billion.
Also most IQ tests stop measuring at 4 standard deviations from the mean(i.e 160@SD15, 164@SD16, and 196@SD24). That's about 1 in 30000 which is no where near the highest possible IQ@ 1 in 7.4 billion.
So tell us what tests where used to gauge his IQ; are they valid?

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:19am On Dec 19, 2017
sonofthunder:

Lol... lemme go and prepare coffee... This thread may get longer than I anticipated.

grin cheesy

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by DeSepiero(m): 9:20am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-788Upky2Y




Christopher Langan has an IQ of about 200 . He has written so many impressive works , one of which is the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU) which "explains the connection between mind and reality, therefore the presence of cognition and universe in the same phrase". He calls his proposal "a true 'Theory of Everything', a cross between John Archibald Wheeler's 'Participatory Universe' and Stephen Hawking's 'Imaginary Time' theory of cosmology."


In conjunction with his ideas, Langan has claimed:


"You can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."

Asked about creationism, Langan has said:


"I believe in the theory of evolution, but I believe as well in the allegorical truth of creation theory. In other words, I believe that evolution, including the principle of natural selection, is one of the tools used by God to create mankind. Mankind is then a participant in the creation of the universe itself, so that we have a closed loop. I believe that there is a level on which science and religious metaphor are mutually compatible."


Hello Ebuka, your title is misleading!!

I watched the entire clip and NOWHERE was it mentioned that he's a 'Christian'.

If there is, please draw my attention to it.
At best, he's a kind of theist. He never mentioned or stated a firm belief in Jesus Christ as lord and personal savior; how do you conclude that he's a Christian?

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:31am On Dec 19, 2017
Squillaci:
@Kingebukasblog,
What standard deviation was used to gauge his IQ? Because I know with standard deviation of 15 IQ of 195 does not exist as it is greater than 1 in 8 billion.
Also most IQ tests stop measuring at 4 standard deviations from the mean(i.e 160@SD15, 164@SD16, and 196@SD24). That's about 1 in 30000 which is no where near the highest possible IQ@ 1 in 7.4 billion.
So tell us what tests where used to gauge his IQ; are they valid?

I don't know how his IQ measured . But he had a perfect sat score , taught himself all he knew(he was way smarter than his professors ) , few people in the world understand his theory ,the CTMU , and he has so many profound ideas about life and the universe that can challenge your view about them . Do you need more info to understand how incredibly intelligent he is ?

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by Squillaci: 9:39am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


I don't know how he was measured . But he had a perfect sat score , taught himself all he knew(he was way smarter than his professors ) , few people in the world understand his theory ,the CTMU , and he has so many profound ideas about life and the universe that can challenge your view about them . Do you need more info to understand how incredibly intelligent he is ?

Hundreds of people get perfect SAT scores every year. Summing the numbers of testees for 30+ years would be well over 10000. In a population of 350 million, that's about 1 in 35000. Again, not too impressive.
What's your evidence that he was smarter than his professors, because he said so?

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by JackBizzle: 9:42am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


See how desperately you are trying to undermine the IQ simply because many theists and Christians have the highest IQs

IQ measures how logically you can think mostly , one's problem solving abilities and these people are on the high side . If it upsets you , you can go and hug transformer. smiley





I'm pretty sure he has at least 3 times your IQ and someone as smart as Chris Langan does know what he is talking about .

I haven't seen his argument or work on it but I think it would be based on the applicability of mathematics in a physical world : Since numbers, mathematical objects are mind-dependent and mathematics is the language of nature then it would only point to the existence of an ultimate mind




Please, stop attacking me. Ad hominems will not cover the fallacious arguments it forward by both the op and the 'smart' Christian.

Mathematics cannot prove the existence of anything. Only a deluded fellow can believe that a non existent concept can prove existence.

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by Martinez19(m): 9:51am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog, I want to ask you one question. If this man believes that Islam is the true religion, will you also believe in Islam?

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:52am On Dec 19, 2017
Squillaci:


Hundreds of people get perfect SAT scores every year. Summing the numbers of testees for 30+ years would be well over 10000. In a population of 350 million, that's about 1 in 35000. Again, not too impressive.
What's your evidence that he was smarter than his professors, because he said so?

He has a verified IQ of 195 but the organizers of the test believe that it is way higher than that . He also took the world's most difficult IQ test and has been described as the smartest man in America and possibly the smartest man in the world .

He also worked on the 'P versus NP problem' (an unsolved problem in computer science ) and thinks he can prove that P does not equal NP.

He learnt all he knows by himself .

THis video should help


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7hHMOpyJKc
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by JackBizzle: 9:55am On Dec 19, 2017
Just read the rationalwiki on this guy. The guy is fraudulent abeg.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan


Nonsense. Leaves thread.

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by Squillaci: 10:01am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


He has a verified IQ of 195 but the organizers of the test believe that it is way higher than that . He also took the world's most difficult IQ test and has been described as the smartest man in America and possibly the smartest man in the world .

He also worked on the 'P versus NP problem' (an unsolved problem in computer science ) and thinks he can prove that P does not equal NP.

He learnt all he knows by himself .

THis video should help


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7hHMOpyJKc



Dude, I am challenging your claims that he has an IQ of 195 and that he was smarter than his professors, and you are still here telling me that he has an IQ of 195 bla bla bla.
Show us evidence that he has an IQ of 190+, what valid test(s) he took, and what standard deviation was used.
That's all

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by dalaman: 10:02am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Many smart Christians today see the creation story as an allegory and embrace evolution or they embrace special creationism which is the hybridization of creationism and evolution.

This is the 1 474 574th time we are having this same discussion. Sir, ain't you tired of repeating the same things over and over again ?

Have you read his work -the CTMU - before trying to criticise simply because he is a Christian ?

Where is his mathematical proof for the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife?

Again was Jesus a creationist or evolutionist?
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by frosbel2(m): 10:03am On Dec 19, 2017
Religious bull sh.it. there are many people of other religions or no religion who have high IQs.

This topic is further evidence that Religion is a divider not a uniter.

Please point me to the prominent Nigerian Christians who have an IQ is 100 as a minimum - grin

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:04am On Dec 19, 2017
Squillaci:


Dude, I am challenging your claims that he has an IQ of 195 and that he was smarter than his professors, and you are still here telling me that he has an IQ of 195 bla bla bla.
Show us evidence that he has an IQ of 190+, what valid test(s) he took, and what standard deviation was used.
That's all

Dude , it was stated by the organizers in the video . This is a known fact that he has a verified IQ of 195 (and it could be way higher than that ).

Go and bring his IQ test papers and check his score if you are that pedantic , that's your business
Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:05am On Dec 19, 2017
dalaman:


Where is his mathematical proof for the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife?

Read his work to find out

Again was Jesus a creationist or evolutionist?

Very stupid question

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:07am On Dec 19, 2017
JackBizzle:
Just read the rationalwiki on this guy. The guy is fraudulent abeg.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan


Nonsense. Leaves thread.

grin grin

What makes him a fraud ?

If he were an atheist you wont be doing this cheesy cheesy

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Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by dalaman: 10:15am On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Read his work to find out

Read which work?



Very stupid question

Jesus view with regards to creation are stated inside the bible. Is he a creationist or evolutionist ?

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