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Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by otawa: 2:41pm On Apr 04, 2010
In the first major bi-national agreement with an African country in a long time, the United States will on Wednesday sign a historic comprehensive commission pact with Nigeria in New York. Under the bi-national commission agreement, the two countries would be cooperating in four areas.

The areas, according to the Nigerian Ambassador to the United States, Professor Adebowale Adefuye, are trade and energy; Niger Delta; electoral reform; and peace and security

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=170056

What is included in the peace and security?

Could this be the AFRICOM now signed?

Why was this historic?

where is the full content of this agreement?

what is National assembly doing?

I knew there was something behind the sudden USA interest in GoodLuck.

Nigerians should clearly reject this pact with USA. Goodluck like Mr Obasanjo is signing away the future of Nigerians.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Beaf: 2:47pm On Apr 04, 2010
Why don't you wait and see what it is before sweating and starting rumours?
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by ladi02(m): 2:57pm On Apr 04, 2010
Another senseless post!
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by otawa: 4:48pm On Apr 04, 2010
Beaf:

Why don't you wait and see what it is before sweating and starting rumours?

Did anyone see the full content of Green Tea agreement when Mr Obasanjo signed away Bakassi to Cameroun?

Did even National Assembly ratify such agreement?

When will Nigerians wake up and stand up for their FUTURE?
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by sjeezy8: 6:32pm On Apr 04, 2010
yaye! Im soo happy lol

I guess this would be bad news for the militants, religous extremist, and the secessionist grin
So when anyone acts crazy and the US military in Nigeria shoots you dead no blaming the naija govt, or northerners oooo.
One thing I like about yankee is they dont believe in freedom fighters or religious zealots - anyone that is disturbing peace and progress is a terrorist.

lmfao
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Nobody: 6:39pm On Apr 04, 2010
This is good news. Infact Obama come and buy Nigeria.We need you.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by naijamini(m): 6:46pm On Apr 04, 2010
@sjeezy8
America doesn't need to sign any pact with Nigeria to know when to take out any danger coming out of Nigeria if they know about it. To be sure, America doesn't do anything for nothing, and that is the way it should be. It is a give and take world. It is Nigeria that spends billions of $, that we don't have, to stop wars across the length of West Africa, and leave it to others to harvest the fruit of that labor.

Nigeria needs to accept help that we badly need. It is obvious we can't get even simple things done in our current state e.g. construct 6000MW of power for 150 million people. The Chinese intelligently accepted this help, while proclaiming themselves communists. Now they are standing toe-to-toe with the Americans. You can be sure the Americans reaped the rewards from that venture as well, and despite all the hullabalo in the press about US-China conflict they have got so many of these cooperative pacts going on. India recently received assistance from the US to develop better and safer nuclear power - to help curtail dependence on dirty fuels by one of the largest nations on earth and to prevent use of technology that can easily be turned into weapons.

All the friends Yar'adua found for Nigeria so far have brought us trouble - for the first time ever a Nigerian citizen engaged in al qaeda's war.

sjeezy8:

yaye! Im soo happy lol

I guess this would be bad news for the militants, religous extremist, and the secessionist grin
So when anyone acts crazy and the US military in Nigeria shoots you dead no blaming the naija govt, or northerners oooo.
One thing I like about yankee is they dont believe in freedom fighters or religious zealots - anyone that is disturbing peace and progress is a terrorist.

lmfao
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Nobody: 7:15pm On Apr 04, 2010
Isn't this why they let Obama in at first? A familiar face for Africans to trust. Tss. How did slavery start? Just like this. Visitors. They were visitors. They were welcomed, we were infidels/inferiors. We were slaves/subhumans. Egypt fell same way, all African emerging civilization fell same way. Karma

karma karma comes back to you hard---Lauryn Hill.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Nobody: 7:20pm On Apr 04, 2010
Otawa

You will begin to make more sense if you wait for Jonathan to make real miss-steps which he will eventually make before you start attacking him.

Righ now you only sound a little more than a broken record.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by naijamini(m): 8:03pm On Apr 04, 2010
@9jaganja
This is the history of mankind. I have recently had a keen interest in our past, and what I am reading suggest that Africans had a glorious past, way better than those who wrote history caused us and their people to believe. This is especially so when you consider that the ancient world was one babaric village. Many of the things they accused us of were untrue. The books of those days were like the tabloids of today filled with fantanstic stories just to sell. Those that were true were very similar to what was being practiced in their own world. The reason we lost it all is double-edged: 1) One, we are a welcoming people, especially to foreigners. We tend to trust them more than our immediate neighbours; 2) At the same time we seem to have a "cultural" superiority complex that keeps us from seeing that the world is a world of change, and if you don't keep up you get left behind. As a result, while we brought people that know what they want and would take it when they see it, if not prevented, into our midst we failed to accept that they had either certain knowledge or skill that we were lacking. As a result, they used those advantages against us when it was time to take what they wanted. Most of today's sub-saharan Africans missed out on the modern development of writing once we were basically kicked out of Egypt and the surrounding area - that was the begining of our problems. The British did not dare venture too far beyond the coast until they discovered that the quinine in the bark of a tree from Brazil cures malaria - today that same malaria is still killing Africans by the thousands. If it was a Western disease it would be almost eradicated by know, simply because they would throw knowledge at it.

So, the solution is not to reject help, but to accept it INTELLIGENTLY. They are already taking what they want from us anyway. What we need to do is define where we need help, what we can give back to them and what they are not allowed to touch. We also need to rapidly increase our knowledge of what others know that we don't. This last is essentially what the Japanese, Taiwanese and now the Indians and Chinese are doing. This requires us to find leaders that are world aware, know the supreme importance of education and can lead us in these areas.

In the late 19th century, the Ethiopians actually succeeded in this same strategy. By studying and acquiring the weapons the foreigners were using to great success they defeated, no crushed is the way the history book put it, the Italian army and remained the only African country that was never taking over in those times.

It is interesting that one book mentioned what the Ethipians did along with what the army of Sokoto did: "The Ethiopians had first first experienced the power of modern breech-loading rifles during a brief punitive campaign in 1867 when a British column assaulted the royal residence at Magdala to free the British ambassador from captivity. After Menelik II succeeded the emperor Yohannes IV to the Ethiopian throne in 1889, he assiduously acquired modern European weapons that enabled him to mobilize an army of 70,000 repeating rifles and quick-firing artillery against the Italians in 1896. The army of Sokoto, however, remained dominated by the ideal of the Hausa warrior and relied on its aristocratic calvary equipped with lance, sword, and bows with arrows." By the time we acquired the rifle in these parts it was against each other we turned them.

9jaganja:

Isn't this why they let Obama in at first? A familiar face for Africans to trust. Tss. How did slavery start? Just like this. Visitors. They were visitors. They were welcomed, we were infidels/inferiors. We were slaves/subhumans. Egypt fell same way, all African emerging civilization fell same way. Karma

karma karma comes back to you hard---Lauryn Hill.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by proo212(m): 8:19pm On Apr 04, 2010
another step forward in the global governance network, Prophecy fulfilling itself.  wink
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by naijamini(m): 8:23pm On Apr 04, 2010
@proo212

Only if we leave our intelligence behind in cooperation with rest of the world, as our forebears did.

proo212:

another step forward in the global governance network, Prophecy fulfilling itself.  wink
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Nobody: 8:28pm On Apr 04, 2010
naijamini:

@9jaganja
This is the history of mankind. I have recently had a keen interest in our past, and what I am reading suggest that Africans had a glorious past, way better than those who wrote history caused us and their people to believe. This is especially so when you consider that the ancient world was one babaric village. Many of the things they accused us of were untrue. The books of those days were like the tabloids of today filled with fantanstic stories just to sell. Those that were true were very similar to what was being practiced in their own world. The reason we lost it all is double-edged: 1) One, we are a welcoming people, especially to foreigners. We tend to trust them more than our immediate neighbours; 2) At the same time we seem to have a "cultural" superiority complex that keeps us from seeing that the world is a world of change, and if you don't keep up you get left behind. As a result, while we brought people that know what they want and would take it when they see it, if not prevented, into our midst we failed to accept that they had either certain knowledge or skill that we were lacking. As a result, they used those advantages against us when it was time to take what they wanted. Most of today's sub-saharan Africans missed out on the modern development of writing once we were basically kicked out of Egypt and the surrounding area - that was the begining of our problems. The British did not dare venture too far beyond the coast until they discovered that the quinine in the bark of a tree from Brazil cures malaria - today that same malaria is still killing Africans by the thousands. If it was a Western disease it would be almost eradicated by know, simply because they would throw knowledge at it.

So, the solution is not to reject help, but to accept it INTELLIGENTLY. They are already taking what they want from us anyway. What we need to do is define where we need help, what we can give back to them and what they are not allowed to touch. We also need to rapidly increase our knowledge of what others know that we don't. This last is essentially what the Japanese, Taiwanese and now the Indians and Chinese are doing. This requires us to find leaders that are world aware, know the supreme importance of education and can lead us in these areas.

In the late 19th century, the Ethiopians actually succeeded in this same strategy. By studying and acquiring the weapons the foreigners were using to great success they defeated, no crushed is the way the history book put it, the Italian army and remained the only African country that was never taking over in those times.

It is interesting that one book mentioned what the Ethipians did along with what the army of Sokoto did: "The Ethiopians had first first experienced the power of modern breech-loading rifles during a brief punitive campaign in 1867 when a British column assaulted the royal residence at Magdala to free the British ambassador from captivity. After Menelik II succeeded the emperor Yohannes IV to the Ethiopian throne in 1889, he assiduously acquired modern European weapons that enabled him to mobilize an army of 70,000 repeating rifles and quick-firing artillery against the Italians in 1896. The army of Sokoto, however, remained dominated by the ideal of the Hausa warrior and relied on its aristocratic calvary equipped with lance, sword, and bows with arrows." By the time we acquired the rifle in these parts it was against each other we turned them.


I know we should accept help intelligently. The idea of Africans being surrounded by some foreign military is scary. Don't say they have taken what they want from us. They are still finding more and more stuffs they need in Africa. They want more and sadly they are getting it. Look at Liberia? American companies trading weapons for blood diamond and when war broke out on a massive scale what happened? they absconded with their own people and left the problem on the bill tab of Nigeria. That's the truth. What did the US do to help in Liberia? they caused the commotion. Every continent is helping themselves why can't we be our own peace keepers?
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by sjeezy8: 8:32pm On Apr 04, 2010
@naijamini
I agree
globalization ad cooperation reasonably can good developing countries, Ghana for example.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by naijamini(m): 8:37pm On Apr 04, 2010
9jaganja:

I know we should accept help intelligently. The idea of Africans being surrounded by some foreign military is scary. Don't say they have taken what they want from us. They are still finding more and more stuffs they need in Africa. They want more and sadly they are getting it. Look at Liberia? American companies trading weapons for blood diamond and when war broke out on a massive scale what happened? they absconded with their own people and left the problem on the bill tab of Nigeria. That's the truth. What did the US do to help in Liberia? they caused the commotion. Every continent is helping themselves why can't we be our own peace keepers?

Simple, Nigeria is the big dog in West Africa, but doesn't know how to use that position because we are most of time led by incompetent people. So, we are always doing the obvious, breaking up fights and walking away. We need a foreign policy that is Nigeria-centric before being Africa-centric. Look at the role we played in South Africa, and then walked away. Now South Africa is hosting the world cup, while we can't successfully host an U-17 event. You know what, South Africa is accepting technological help from around the world, intelligently. We have to be part of the global mainstream - the alternative is for us to be forever held down by incompetency.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Ikengawo: 8:40pm On Apr 04, 2010
the united states should not be trusted but we'll have to wait and see what these agreements and partnerships consist of before pointing fingers and freaking out about africom (which seems like a bush initiative not an obama one)

if you knew how these white ppl think you would know there's nothing in them to trust, but a strong stable nigeria is in america's best interest and they know it, that's why they were so involved in the yar adua crisis.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by CILondon: 9:35pm On Apr 04, 2010
sjeezy8:

yaye! Im soo happy lol

I guess this would be bad news for the militants, religous extremist, and the secessionist grin
So when anyone acts crazy and the US military in Nigeria shoots you dead no blaming the naija govt, or northerners oooo.
One thing I like about yankee is they dont believe in freedom fighters or religious zealots - anyone that is disturbing peace and progress is a terrorist.

lmfao

Are you having a laugh? The US military?
You think the US military will come and get involved in Nigeria - on top of Iraq and Afghanistan?
ROTFLMHO

I don't think you really understand how fed up American citizens are of that war in Iraq and afghanistan ALREADY!!!!
No way are they tolerating their President sending the US military into any more foreign war zones.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by otawa: 11:55pm On Apr 04, 2010
@mikeansy

It seems you guys are not reading properly.

In the first major bi-national agreement with an African country in a long time, the United States will on Wednesday sign a historic comprehensive commission pact with Nigeria in New York.

Today is Tuesday. The agreement will be signed on wednesday.

As such, where is the copy for NIGERIANS to know what GOODLUCK is signing with the AMERICANS.

How come we never LEARN from our mistake!!!

Something is surely WRONG with AFRICANS.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by sjeezy8: 12:06am On Apr 05, 2010
C1LONDON LOL

You think africom was made out of nothing? you are even more funnier, Africom was suppose to have about 5,000 troops in Nigeria 2007- yaradua reneged . Africom is there to make Nigeria "secure" from ethnic or religous clashes and also american oil interest from the Chinco and Militants.

I actually laughed because you said "Americans" as if the general opinion of american citizens matters. Barack obama was suppose to withdrawl troops because thats what "americans citizens wanted" HE JUST SENT 30,000 ADDITIONAL TROOPS TO AFGHANISTAN.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by nduchucks: 12:26am On Apr 05, 2010
hehehehehehe. There goes the daily bread of the MEND terrorists!!  Terroristic and armed solutions to the ND problems will no longer be viable. A Niger Deltan acting Pres., may have finally dealt the death blow to the MEND thugs.
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by otawa: 10:49am On Apr 06, 2010


The Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) Yayale Ahmed will lead the formal signing of a new bilateral agreement between Nigeria and the United States of America to take place this week in Washington DC.

Mr. Ahmed will sign the agreement on behalf of the Acting President, Goodluck Jonathan, who had originally planned to make the trip. He is also scheduled to meet senior policy makers in the American capital.

Before leaving the country on Monday night, Mr. Ahmed spoke to key officials about the objectives set by the Acting President before his journey. High on the agenda was the increasingly tensed relations between Nigeria and America following the attempted plane bombing last Christmas by Umar Abdulmutallab.

He said that although the Federal Government respects the concerns brought by the America administration, Nigeria has proved its ability to stabilise its governance and displayed loyalty to its constitutional legacy and foundation.

The SGF spoke with gratitude towards the long lasting efforts made by the US to support Nigeria and its people.

There goes whatever is remaning of our 'FREEDOM' as a country. Welcome to AFRICOM.

In another 5years, when it is all BLOWN apart, we will wonder how did we get to that stage!
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Nobody: 11:58am On Apr 06, 2010
Beaf:

Why don't you wait and see what it is before sweating and starting rumours?
beaf and his militant brothers are in trouble.no more amnesty, fire for fire
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by otawa: 8:39am On Apr 22, 2010
At the signing three weeks ago, Clinton stated that the commission would seek to make progress in many areas, of which four are considered key. She said first, "we will work together on good governance and transparency, which are essential to Nigeria's democracy and its prosperity," adding that special focus would be put on the electoral reform, the 2011 elections and the fight against corruption.

Secondly, Clinton disclosed that "the Commission will promote regional cooperation and development that creates opportunities and delivers results for all of the people of the Niger Delta. Part of that cooperation will be broader collaboration on security and counterterrorism."

Thirdly, she said that "we will work together on energy reform and investment. Nigeria is blessed with natural resources, including oil and gas, yet electricity remains too scarce and profits have not always been invested in ways that benefit all Nigerians, particularly the poorest."

And lastly, the U.S. Secretary of State added that the commission "will focus on food security and agricultural development. We want to help provide Nigeria's farmers with the tools they need to feed their people and lift rural families out of poverty."

Any right thinking people will start asking, what has USA done to help their MEXICAN who leaves next door?

And yet they are eager to HELP Nigeria!
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Mpele(m): 9:01am On Apr 22, 2010
South Africa refused to allow the Africom to be based in our region. The government refused to sign for this Africom shit! Americans don't have friends but only interests. Days of butt licking are over!!
Re: Acting President Signs Africom With Americans! by Beaf: 10:49am On Apr 22, 2010
~Bluetooth:

beaf and his militant brothers are in trouble.no more amnesty, fire for fire

You people bearing this position are so ignorant, blind and silly.  grin
Otawa has always been a rumour monger and conspiracy theorist, so no biggie there. Africom my arse!
Like I told ndu_Chucks on another thread. MEND were among the first to visit Uncle Joe; listen to the wise words of Nigeria's only Nobel Laureate (no be beans to earn dat kain tin o! grin);

He accused Mrs Yar'Adua of using her husband's "phantom existence" for her own interests, along with a corrupt cabal of unelected leaders that he called a "bunch of absolute brigands". "It has gone beyond theatre of the absurd into something ghoulish going on macabre," the writer said.

Mr Soyinka said Nigeria had a failing "neocolonial constitution", a wave of "political assassinations" and was a place where power failures were "the norm" and its leaders were "robber barons" looting the country. "There is this myth of Nigerian resilience, that we will always pull back from the brink, but there is a critical mass at which some things implode," he said.

[size=14pt]He defended the "real militants" in the Niger Delta[/size], whom he said had a right to take on the government over decades of neglect, rights abuses, environmental crimes and theft of resources. He called Mend "a small, well-organised and resourceful militant group" that could choke the government's lifeline of oil. Yesterday, Mend launched its biggest attack since last year

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/nigeria-is-falling-apart-says-nobel-prizewinning-author-1921835.html

Jealousy go kill una!!! grin grin grin grin grin

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