I recently stumbled across an article on King James IV and I of Scotland and England,the man who sponsored the translation of the bible into english.
The article further propelled me to conduct more research on the man who was a very vehement protestant christian in his time,I discovered that not only was the man gay(he notably had three male partners during his life time),but also an hypocrite who encouraged anti-gay laws and death penalty for homosexuals,claiming that homosexuality was a "moste unforgivable offence...".
It is really interesting that I am just coming across this piece of history for the first time,considering my rather vast reservoir(if I do say so myself) of historical knowledge.

So,I want to get more views on the matter, how many christians know about this fact?,are there any contrary record of events out there(as there are wont to be when christians are involved?.

So what if he was gay? How does that change anything?!

HeyCorleone:
So what if he was gay? How does that change anything?!

Do not mistake me, I have nothing against gays,I myself am open to both sexes.
I just want to get peoples' views on this matter,considering that most christians hold deep dislike for the subject of homosexuality.

HeyCorleone:
So what if he was gay? How does that change anything?!

Giving the fact that most christian critisize gays and see the act as disgusting and demonic?

I personally have done no research on the topic. Lets assume he is gay it would be wrong of him especially if he was using state to prosecute gays.

From your write up, am just hearing it for the first time.
If as alleged by you that king James was a gay yet was against the gay laws,it then means he was dying silently. He didn't open up or prayed enough. The bible rightly condemn homosexuality.
So am assuming he was dying in silence and couldn't speak out of fear and condemnation

King James Version

I know some persons wouldn't like this but we shouldn't just condemn gays. They didn't choose to be one but were forced to be by unknown forces. They need deliverance because that is not the will of God for them. We need to show them love by grooming them with the word of God instead of castigating them. Homosexuality is controlled by a demon. If we show them love, many of them will come out of it. It's because of our attitudes that is why many of them are dying in silence.

asuustrike2009:
From your write up, am just hearing it for the first time.
If as alleged by you that king James was a gay yet was against the gay laws,it then means he was dying silently. He didn't open up or prayed enough. The bible rightly condemn homosexuality.
So am assuming he was dying in silence and couldn't speak out of fear and condemnation

There are a lot of historic evidence to support the fact that he took young men into his bedchambers(including letters written to and from his lovers; do you know that he is a symbol of one of the earliest gay romance in history?),he had his first gay relationship at the age of 14 with a scottish merchant who had recently arrived from France and came to the king's court.



Yet he was openly homophobic. I dont believe he was "suffering" as you put it, he simply wanted to play his good protestant christian image.

Lol.

So he was gay, that's sad. But I do not see why you are looking for the opinion of Christians oh.

The man only sponsored the translation of the Bible.. No be him write am. His personal life has absolutely nothing to do with the contents of the Bible.

You just dey find story where Mata no dey.

asuustrike2009:
I know some persons wouldn't like this but we shouldn't just condemn gays. They didn't choose to be one but were forced to be by unknown forces. They need deliverance because that is not the will of God for them. We need to show them love by grooming them with the word of God instead of castigating them. Homosexuality is controlled by a demon. If we show them love, many of them will come out of it. It's because of our attitudes that is why many of them are dying in silence.

Really?, homosexuality is controlled by a demon?,do pray tell,what demon would that be?
I think it is erroneous to believe that homosexuality is some sort of spiritual affliction that needs deliverance,can you say the same for liking fat ladies or prefering older ladies?,is polygamy also a spiritual infirmity too?.

Skinnienigga:
Lol.

So he was gay, that's sad. But I do not see why you are looking for the opinion of Christians oh.

The man only sponsored the translation of the Bible.. No be him write am. His personal life has absolutely nothing to do with the contents of the Bible.

You just dey find story where Mata no dey.

I assumed that christians usually take offence to anything associated with homosexuality.Discovering that the man who is responsible for the most widely read version of the bible on earth is gay must be kind of a big deal.



Moreover, I wanted to see how many christians are aware. Knowledge is continous.

EVarn:
Really?, homosexuality is controlled by a demon?,do pray tell,what demon would that be?
I think it is erroneous to believe that homosexuality is some sort of spiritual affliction that needs deliverance,can you say the same for liking fat ladies or prefering older ladies?,is polygamy also a spiritual infirmity too?.

Homosexuality is demonic. It's not the will of God for man. The bible made it clear in Gen 5:2, matt 19:4, mark 10:6). The Bible says that homosexuality is unnatural. Men in gay relationships have given up the natural use of the woman and women the natural use of the man. ( (Rom. 1:26-27). They have the choice to either continue or come out.

EVarn:
I assumed that christians usually take offence to anything associated with homosexuality.Discovering that the man who is responsible for the most widely read version of the bible on earth is gay must be kind of a big deal.



Moreover, I wanted to see how many christians are aware. Knowledge is continous.

Were you asking to gain knowledge or just want to cos troubles for well meaning people like your father??

I have an info with me... But I need to know if the ++++ over there is asking a question or is affirming a lie

How do you know he was gay? Was one of your ancestor among the three partners he had?
These LGBT advocates will do anything to legitimize homosexuality so watch what you read and believe.

EVarn:
I recently stumbled across an article on King James IV and I of Scotland and England,the man who sponsored the translation of the bible into english.
The article further propelled me to conduct more research on the man who was a very vehement protestant christian in his time,I discovered that not only was the man gay(he notably had three male partners during his life time),but also an hypocrite who encouraged anti-gay laws and death penalty for homosexuals,claiming that homosexuality was a "moste unforgivable offence...".
It is really interesting that I am just coming across this piece of history for the first time,considering my rather vast reservoir(if I do say so myself) of historical knowledge.

So,I want to get more views on the matter, how many christians know about this fact?,are there any contrary record of events out there(as there are wont to be when christians are involved?.

please we need the source of this article you wrote... you don't expect us to believe a lie....

asuustrike2009:

Homosexuality is demonic. It's not the will of God for man. The bible made it clear in Gen 5:2, matt 19:4, mark 10:6). The Bible says that homosexuality is unnatural. Men in gay relationships have given up the natural use of the woman and women the natural use of the man. ( (Rom. 1:26-27). They have the choice to either continue or come out.

Perhaps,but according to the bible, women should bow their head in public gatherings, stealing from uncircumcized pagans is not a sin, keeping of foreign slaves is accepted, prostitutes should be stoned to death, a man spilling his semen(on the floor) is a punishable offence etc...
I do not think society still observes all those laws. Moreover,they are the laws of jews.



By the way, where is it stated in the bible that demons cause homosexuality.

Ferisidowu:


Were you asking to gain knowledge or just want to cos troubles for well meaning people like your father??

I have an info with me... But I need to know if the ++++ over there is asking a question or is affirming a lie

1. I asked to gain more perspective on the matter.



2. I am amused, do you profess to know my father?, if so, feel free to share any information you might have.

EVarn:

1. I asked to gain more perspective on the matter.



2. I am amused, do you profess to know my father?, if so, feel free to share any information you might have.

please give the source of your topic and let's continue from there

Nutase:
How do you know he was gay? Was one of your ancestor among the three partners he had?
These LGBT advocates will do anything to legitimize homosexuality so watch what you read and believe.

The beauty of the internet is that those who can't afford to buy books can easily access informations,by reading onnet or downloading software manuscripts.



I am not begging you to believe me, I don't care eitherway. If you are a little bit intelligent,you will go make some basic research yourself, that is the point of this thread, to enlighten intelligent people.



Please feel free not to comment here until you have made a cursory visit to the internet's vast information pool.

If you want, I can recommend some books for you to read,then you can make a more logical conclusion.

Ferisidowu:


please give the source of your topic and let's continue from there

I didnt get my deductions from one article, I took the effort to download books, if you are serious about finding your own conclusions(not just trying to find faults) then I strongly recommend that you locate these works online:

King James and the history of Homosexuality by Michael B. Young



Letters of King James I & IV, G.P.V Akrigg




Royal family, Royal lovers; King James of England and Scotland by David Bergeron




Royal Panoply, Brief lives of the English monarchs, Carolly Erickson



Please try to get one or two of those works and dedicate your time to read through, it will prove very interesting.

EVarn:
I didnt get my deductions from one article, I took the effort to download books, if you are serious about finding your own conclusions(not just trying to find faults) then I strongly recommend that you locate these works online:

King James and the history of Homosexuality by Michael B. Young



Letters of King James I & IV, G.P.V Akrigg




Royal family, Royal lovers; King James of England and Scotland by David Bergeron




Royal Panoply, Brief lives of the English monarchs, Carolly Erickson



Please try to get one or two of those works and dedicate your time to read through, it will prove very interesting.

Thanks

King James was not gay he was handicapped with weak limbs and he usually leaned on subjects, that doesn't make him gay
The letters he wrote doesn't prove he was gay using the word 'love' doesn't equal gay those critics will also claim Jesus was gay with John, David was gay with Jonathan
Rubbish lies

EVarn:
The beauty of the internet is that those who can't afford to buy books can easily access informations,by reading onnet or downloading software manuscripts.



I am not begging you to believe me, I don't care eitherway. If you are a little bit intelligent,you will go make some basic research yourself, that is the point of this thread, to enlighten intelligent people.



Please feel free not to comment here until you have made a cursory visit to the internet's vast information pool.

If you want, I can recommend some books for you to read,then you can make a more logical conclusion.

who wrote the books that are confusing you? These same LgBT advocates. Be careful what you digest on the net Mr. Intelligent.

EVarn:
but also an hypocrite who encouraged anti-gay laws and death penalty for homosexuals,claiming that homosexuality was a "moste unforgivable offence...".

There seems to be sufficient research suggesting King James 1 was gay.
I found no evidence for the above however. There seems to exist much more to the contrary.

King James Homosexual, addressing the Privy Council wrote:

"I, James, am neither a god nor an angel, but a man like any other. Therefore I act like a man and confess to loving those dear to me more than other men.

You may be sure, that I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else, and more than you who are here assembled.

I wish to speak in my own behalf and not to have it thought to be a defect,

For Jesus Christ did the same, and therefore I cannot be blamed. Christ had John, and I have George.

budaatum:
There seems to be sufficient research suggesting King James 1 was gay.
I found no evidence for the above however. There seems to exist much more to the contrary.

King James Homosexual, addressing the Privy Council wrote:

"I, James, am neither a god nor an angel, but a man like any other. Therefore I act like a man and confess to loving those dear to me more than other men.

You may be sure, that I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else, and more than you who are here assembled.

I wish to speak in my own behalf and not to have it thought to be a defect,

For Jesus Christ did the same, and therefore I cannot be blamed. Christ had John, and I have George.

In a letter to judges of England, he urged them not to exercise any restraint in punishing homosexuals, for he considered it an unforgivable offence.

EVarn:
In a letter to judges of England, he urged them not to exercise any restraint in punishing homosexuals, for he considered it an unforgivable offence.

There are numerous refs in one of the links I posted above that do not agree with your point. They in fact stand in opposition to the above and refer to him finding love for same genders to be historical and therefore natural.

Please post link to where he said as you claim.

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EVarn:
■ So,I want to get more views on the matter, how many christians know about this fact?,are there any contrary record of events out there(as there are wont to be when christians are involved?.

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■ From your write up, am just hearing it for the first time. If as alleged by you that king James was a gay yet was against the gay laws,it then means he was dying silently. He didn't open up or prayed enough. The bible rightly condemn homosexuality. So am assuming he was dying in silence and couldn't speak out of fear and condemnation

Dying silently? You mean like the present King Charles, an adulterer from his youth, was equally dying silently? Why many of una dey like reason like zombies for Pete's sake?