MakeWeTalk:

WHY I LEFT ISLAM

here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam

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My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian.
Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replies

"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter.
In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"

So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.

Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"

Qur'an (4:34) -
" Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim"
And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT

Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


These verses in the bible shocked me.


So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,


I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcQTmcgkKA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3b3TpKaly0?t=13s

This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband.
So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?

Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?

---

After doing my research I left Islam.

And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.

John 3
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved.


18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED:
BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY,
BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

Even Mohammed is not promised salvation

Sura 46:9
"I am not something original among the messengers,
NOR DO In Jesus KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."

So comparing , you can see that Jesus is better.

MakeWeTalk:

WHY I LEFT ISLAM

here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam

---

My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian.
Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replies

"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter.
In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"

So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.

Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"

Qur'an (4:34) -
" Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim"
And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT

Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


These verses in the bible shocked me.


So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,


I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcQTmcgkKA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3b3TpKaly0?t=13s

This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband.
So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?

Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?

---

After doing my research I left Islam.

And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.

John 3
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved.


18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED:
BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY,
BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

Even Mohammed is not promised salvation

Sura 46:9
"I am not something original among the messengers,
NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."

So comparing , you can see that Jesus is better.

xerxes456:


Bros stop quoting scriptures arbitrarily, it's very clear you're on a fault finding mission, what ever the case, wives should submit and husband should love,
That old Testament book you quoted doesn't apply to Christians, we follow Christ and we cannot commit adultery if we do, we ask God for forgiveness through Christ and it's Done...
There's no where Christ advise us to beat our wives or kill anybody for any reason... God is love, and Jesus is love personified...
Jesus said behold old things are passed away, all things have become new... we are Christians not Judaist.

phemmyfour:
You are quoting old testament but we operate under a better covenant in new testament

MakeWeTalk:

WHY I LEFT ISLAM

here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam

---

My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian.
Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replies


"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter.
In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"

So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.

Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"

Qur'an (4:34) -
" Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim"
And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT

Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


These verses in the bible shocked me.


So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,


I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcQTmcgkKA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3b3TpKaly0?t=13s

This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband.
So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?

Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?

---

After doing my research I left Islam.

And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.

John 3
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved.


18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED:
BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY,
BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

Even Mohammed is not promised salvation

Sura 46:9
"I am not something original among the messengers,
NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."

So comparing , you can see that Jesus is better.

Niyinficient:


So in all the verses u have quoted, where is it written that wives should be beaten? and where did the person u quoted earlier says wives shouldnt be submissive to their husbands?

I am waiting.

i agree with u on your last sentence tho....religion is shouldnt be by force because the Almighty God himself didnt force anyone to love him. He has given every man the freewill and determinism to do choose their faiths and believes

yemaldo:


But Jesus Did Not condemn the Old Testament–in Fact He Did the Opposite, here are d facts

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)

"Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)
" It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

U Need to read ur bible cover to cover

MakeWeTalk:

WHY I LEFT ISLAM

here is a write up of my thinking for leaving Islam

---

My Father is Muslim and my Mother is Christian.
Many atimes my father has beaten my mother and when we complain or my uncles on my mothers side complain my father replieS



"You know I am a muslim man and follow the Quo'ran to the letter.
In Islam we are told to beat our wives if she mispleases us"

So I asked my father to explain what he said and he showed me the quo'ran that say's clearly you can beat your wife.

Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,"

Qur'an (4:34) -
" Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So I tried to comfort my mum, when she said "She will not encourage her daughters to marry a Muslim"
And I asked her why not and she said in her Christianity men are commanded to LOVE THEIR WIVES NOT BEAT

Again I asked for proof and she showed me these in the bible which I checked.

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;


Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


These verses in the bible shocked me.


So brothers please tell me how come our quoran encourages beating our women while the Christians God & Bible says not to beat our wives,


I have even sought teachings on this and all the Imams teach you to beat your wife.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hcQTmcgkKA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3b3TpKaly0?t=13s

This is worrying to me, as I wont want my sisters to be beaten by her husband.
So am I agreeing that my sisters should marry a Christian and not a muslim.?

Also why does your bible command you not to beat your wife, while our quoran commands us to beat our wives?

---

After doing my research I left Islam.

And can say one striking difference apart from loving your wife, is that Christians have a promise of salvation which muslims do not have.

John 3
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world;
but that the world through him might be saved.


18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED:
BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY,
BECAUSE HE HATH NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

Even Mohammed is not promised salvation

Sura 46:9
"I am not something original among the messengers,
NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."

So comparing , you can see that Jesus is better.

yemaldo:


But Jesus Did Not condemn the Old Testament–in Fact He Did the Opposite, here are d facts

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)

"Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)
" It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

U Need to read ur bible cover to cover

phemmyfour:
Why are you confuse, you think I m one of those you can bamboos with scriptures. Do you even understand what it means to "fulfil the law". That's a topic for another day.

Mt5:38

You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’h 39But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also

Don't just quote scriptures out of context. Jesus told us he came to fulfill the law and went ahead to give examples because of people like you that read Bible upside down.

ollah1:




Lol. The Bible is loaded with contradictions. It says A in one verse and says B in another. A story book is more consistent that it. He read the Bible upside down but it's ok for you and your folks to read the Quran upside down and out of context right

Xisnin:


If you take time to use your head instead of repeating what
your ignorant cleric told you you will know that Jewish laws are no longer binding and not even jews practise them.
Muhamad being ignorant went into the old testament to adopt outdated jewish laws such as stoning adulterer and killing
apostates. And when muslims are challenged for their barbarity they point to the Torrah as if the Torrah held a gun to
their head.

phemmyfour:
There is no contradiction, people just choose to read it like a novel and explain it literarily

The scriptures are there to give you understanding of the journey of relationship between man and God

ALVA001:
كلا سوف تعلامون. ثم كلا سوف تعلامون.

phemmyfour:
You are quoting old testament but we operate under a better covenant in new testament

ollah1:



Of you can now succumb when you have been rightly schooled. Pass the message to your folks about sensational and sentimental discuss. It only breeds division and hatred

Live and lets live

phemmyfour:
next time, write in English

Kaybmal100:



So you now accept u are not under the old testament but u still allow your pastors to collect your tithes. Tell me, where in the new testament was collecting of tithes mentioned tithes mentioned?

ollah1:




Pastors collect tithe with Malachi which is old testament but you don't blink an eye
You quote and pray with Isisah, Proverbs, Deuteronomy, et al and ignore it's old testament

But the moment verses that doesn't suit your narratives are quoted then it becomes old testament.

Besides Jesus didn't abolish the old testament .

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)

"Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)

" It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

phemmyfour:

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Talking about tithe, it was mentioned in new testament and Jesus didn't condemn it. Instead he lay more emphasis on giving freely

About fulfilling old law, read my previous post

saajus:
You don't understand Christianity. In Christianity, we have Old Testament and New Testament. The main reason Jesus came was to bring Salvation by Grace because men cannot keep those laws in the Old Testament.

Kaybmal100:



Pleas give me quotes from the bible that say jesus(pbuh) supported tithes

phemmyfour:
Mt 23:23

He did not condemn it and its wasn't mandatory

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former

Olabenjamen22:

they are polluting my town(oyo) with child without husband. Lol.

ollah1:





Ephesians 5:22-23 clearly stated that wives should submit to their husbands in EVERYTHING .

I despise sensational and sentimemtal journalism. Both books are filled with contradictions and bad verses but some folks especially Christians act like their book, god, faith et al is the creme de la creme. You hardly find believers of other faiths spamming the whole site with same derogatory lines or attacking other people's beliefs.

ollah1:

That deuteronomy is the old testament which was given balance by the new testament, because the bible says wife be submissive, it didn't
state that she should be beaten or abused, your religion u understand and ours we also understand that it is for the two parties involve to respect and love, submission is an act that brings about love and it is relevant for relationship to last.











While doing your "research " and spamming Nairaland with these same lines without adding nothing to your life. You must have skipped these verses from the Bible


Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." Ephesians 5:22-23

"if a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman and the woman; so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." [Deuteronomy 22.22]

Peter 2:18: "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel."

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)


Quit being a bigot.. It only makes you hate your fellow men because you don't share same ideology and it's not possible for everybody to share same idelogies.