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Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by Lukgaf(m): 8:47am On Jan 26, 2018
Praise be to Allah.
Firstly:

Al-Fayyoomi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The babgha (parrot) is a well-known bird. The word babgha may be masculine or feminine, and the plural is Babghawat.

Al-Misbah al-Muneer fi Ghareeb al-Sharh al-Kabeer, 1/35

Secondly:

It seems that it is not prescribed to return the greeting of a parrot which has learnt how to say salams (Islamic greeting), because saying salam is an act of worship and a supplication which requires intention on the part of the one who said it, and there is no such intention on the part of this trained creature. So one should not return its greeting. The ruling is the same as that on a tape on which the greeting is recorded and can be heard. It is a transmission of sound and does not come under the ruling on greeting when it is broadcast live, in which case returning the greeting is prescribed and is a communal obligation (fard kifayah).

Al-Shaykh Muhammad ibn Salih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

Sometimes the greeting may be recorded and they put it on the tape and run it. If it is recorded then you are not obliged to return the greeting, because this is just a transmission of sound.

Liqa’ al-Bab al-Maftooh, 28/229

See the rest of the fatwa and details on this issue in the answer to question number 128737.

Based on this, the parrot does not intend to give the greeting of salam, because it does not possess the power of reason, and when it speaks it is just repeating what it has been taught, without meaning what it says.

Some of the scholars have stated that it is not prescribed to prostrate if one hears a verse from a parrot or from a recorded tape.

One of the conclusions of the book Bahjat al-Asma‘ fi Ahkam al-Sama‘ fi’l-Fiqh al-Islami by Prof. ‘Ali ibn Dhariyan ibn Faris al-Hasan al-‘Anzi (published by Dar al-Manar in Kuwait) is:

The listener need not do the prostration of recitation if he hears it from a source that is not human, such as a trained bird like a parrot or hearing it from an echo. End quote.

And Allah knows best.

https://islamqa.info/en/140497

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Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by snazzy5050(m): 9:30am On Jan 26, 2018
Interesting

I’m just here for the FTC cool

I respect all religions

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Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by BigBrother9ja: 9:34am On Jan 26, 2018
Ruling ruling ruling...

Honestly, Islam is a COMPLETE way of life cool

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Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by abiolag(m): 9:35am On Jan 26, 2018
May Allah increases u in knowledge

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Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by Abdulazeez007(m): 9:43am On Jan 26, 2018
MoshaAllah
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by arma: 9:45am On Jan 26, 2018
Jazaakallaahu khayr
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by Canme4u(m): 9:58am On Jan 26, 2018
Mashallah. Thanks 4 sharing it.
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by Olawalesadiq(m): 10:11am On Jan 26, 2018
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Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by Shamsointegrity(m): 11:44am On Jan 26, 2018
Jazakumllahu khaeran for the piece
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by marriedmum(f): 1:54pm On Jan 26, 2018
Jazaakumullahu khayr. Interesting.
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by QuietHammer(m): 1:57pm On Jan 26, 2018
BigBrother9ja:
Ruling ruling ruling...

Honestly, Islam is a COMPLETE way of life cool
What's is the Islamic ruling on pedophilia?

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Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by BigBrother9ja: 2:10pm On Jan 26, 2018
QuietHammer:

What's is the Islamic ruling on pedophilia?
It's a crime
No man should be with a lady that hasn't started 'menstrauting'
Being with her also should even be with her consent.


Please do you know of any ruling concerning pedophilé and homosexualities in the Bible because I don't understand all those gay and pedophilé bishops and reverends o

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Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by QuietHammer(m): 2:34pm On Jan 26, 2018
BigBrother9ja:

It's a crime
No man should be with a lady that hasn't started 'menstrauting'
Being with her also should even be with her consent.


Please do you know of any ruling concerning pedophilé and homosexualities in the Bible because I don't understand all those gay and pedophilé bishops and reverends o
Good question, but you are asking the wrong person
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by nellyelitz(m): 2:49pm On Jan 26, 2018
BigBrother9ja:

It's a crime
No man should be with a lady that hasn't started 'menstrauting'
Being with her also should even be with her consent.


Please do you know of any ruling concerning pedophilé and homosexualities in the Bible because I don't understand all those gay and pedophilé bishops and reverends o
i don't even the gay imams all over
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by Elesu: 3:13pm On Jan 26, 2018
BigBrother9ja:

It's a crime
No man should be with a lady that hasn't started 'menstrauting'
Being with her also should even be with her consent.


Please do you know of any ruling concerning pedophilé and homosexualities in the Bible because I don't understand all those gay and pedophilé bishops and reverends o
Islam doesn't forbids Gay...
Though people adjudged it to be bad.
Some people are naturally inclined to homo...and every effort of emaciation had always been futile.
Re: Responding To The Greetings Of A Parrot Or Phone Ringing? by BigBrother9ja: 6:58pm On Jan 26, 2018
Elesu:

Islam doesn't forbids Gay...
Though people adjudged it to be bad.
Some people are naturally inclined to homo...and every effort of emaciation had always been futile.
Shut up!
Only a fool and an enemy of Islam would say this.
ISLAM FORBIDS HOMOSEXUALITIES IN EVERY FORMS!

The Quran cites the story of the "people of Lot" destroyed by the wrath of God because they engaged in lustful carnal acts between men. Homosexual acts are forbidden in traditional Islamic jurisprudence and are liable to different punishments, including the death penalty, depending on the situation and legal school.
In one passage the Quran says that the men "solicited his guests of him" (Quran 54:37), using an expression that parallels phrasing used to describe the attempted seduction of Joseph, and in multiple passages they are accused of "coming with lust" to men instead of women (or their wives).
The Quran terms this an abomination.

STOP SAYING RUBBISH!

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