jaguar_09:

It's painful DaGrin is gone,  i symphatize with his family. i have read lots of comments on this thread emphazing on why he was not flown abroad for medical treatment,  what annoys me in this country is that thing that are wrong are not talked about until a public figure becomes a victim of it. think of the majority of Nigerian who can not even afford access to Nigerian health care who loss their loved ones while begging the hospital mgt a attend to their sick ones? it happen everywhere,  recently the senate passed a bill that gun shot injury be treated without poilice report, this happened because of the death of a journalist who was shot by armed robber in this house. there again we have journalist in this country who scrample for stuff to report when there are lots of things to report about which are wrong in this country.  for example LASTMA official asking you for driving license, and car particulars when they should be controlling traffic. it's madness. this is just one of many.

yea, we know where the truth lies but it virtually hard to tell it. never knew there was a BILL on gun shot wounds, sounds interesting.
OBAMA sure knew what he was doing before embarking on such gigantic health reform thing, at least now we know.

This is the only country where trajedy precedes prevention. Why did Belview and sosoliso have to crash before the situation in the aviation industry was raised? We know wat to do, we dont do it, probably because it doesnt directly affect us. This trajedy will go into the dust, because no politician was involved, and he aint a top man's son. pathetic!

Of a truth,certain factors were contributory negligencies but the fact is derivable by asking a simple question.WHO IS THE OWNER OF LIFE?Life is a loan dat is not only repayable but also accountable even if he was flown to the best hospital in the world,it can only enhance his chance and never a guarantee that his life wud be sustained.why do people die in developed countries,dont people die in america?it is an unquestionable phenomenom.it is a painful loss that we should learn great lessons from.

So much have been said over the issue on ground,the question is what is your positive impact unto thy Great nation
Whats happening with naija youth, why so much in haste.
God Time is the best, Dear Beloved.
Lets not be weary but stir up in humilty down on our knee, sowing a seed of prayer to our Land.

I want to introduce another dimension to this finger pointing. Even though some of us here may not agree with this, I still think it is something to ponder on.

"The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, we do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against pricipalities, " - These are common Bible quotes. I have brought this to the fore to make a point that Da Grin lost a spiritual battle. How do I mean?

Da Grin should have prepared for a spiritual battle when in one of his songs (can't remember the title of dat tract) he said " Ko ni da fun awon aje" (meaning - Damn all witches). In this part of the world, witchcraft is real. You need to be strong spiritually, holding on strong to your faith (Christianity, Islam, African Religion etc) to withstand their strong powers. I am not insinuating that the Da Grin case is exactly that of witchcraft but just pointing out a possible cause of action that could defy the best medical treatment and the most sophisticated car safety gadgets. Once a battle is lost spiritually, the manifestations in the physical could take any form and we'll just be here rationalizing and passing blames. This is Africa!

I think the lesson from this is that while we are excercising due care and taking necessary safety measures, we should watch what we say in the public and then hold on strong to our faith.

tayo_ast:

there's no need blaming d system for DaGrin's death(even though its hard 2 take).
When it comes 2 death, NOTHING can change it.
Stella Obasanjo died how/where?

True talk

tayo_ast:

there's no need blaming d system for DaGrin's death(even though its hard 2 take).
When it comes 2 death, NOTHING can change it.
Stella Obasanjo died how/where?

Is it not the system that made it possible for people to park their trucks indiscriminately on poorly lit roads, not minding the hazard they pose to other road users?

I don't know if the guy was drunk or not, but you don't have to be drunk to run into a trailer parked on a single lane road in the middle of the night!

As usual nothing will done about this until it happens to a governor or some other high ranking politician!

Healthcare? Give me a break, it seems a lot of people do not appreciate how fragile this body of ours is. Can we now say nobody has died in "America" one week after a car crash? How did the "American" health care keep 2pac alive for one week and allow him die?

The trailer left on the road without any warning signals etc, that is a problem of the system, but blaming the healthcare with the little facts we have is ridiculous.

from what i reliably gatheredfrom colleagues,daGrin was in a very bad situation at presentation.
would his chances of survival overseas b better,maybe-maginally taking his case from d history i gathered.
d healthcare system in nigeria is for most part,a joke.awever,any meaningful change would,i believe,require a vocal cry from nigerians as a whole and not only d caregivers.
dagrin's death could serve as a focus to rally everyone to d sorry state of our healthcare n bring to mind the thousands,millions of somewhat unknown or lesser known names dat their families n the greater humanity have bin denied of their talents.

WE ALL KNOW THAT NIGERIAN HOSPITALS ARE DRIVE THROUGH MORGUES


There.

platinumnk:

WE ALL KNOW THAT NIGERIAN HOSPITALS ARE DRIVE THROUGH MORGUES


There.

Drive through morgues

Why do we need hospitals if you only go there to die!

Maybe Michael Jackson wouldnt have been dead if there are no black doctors in the world?

bollocks.

Maybe his death will also teach many people other lessons - be careful and take things easy.

redsun:

The average life-span in nigeria is 45years due acute maladmistration.People shouldn't be surprise when people die in nigeria,it is such a crazy society that staying alive is a stroke of luck,a matter of being at the right place at the right time.

Nothing whatsoever is in place to keep a common man alive in nigeria,ordinary mosquito can take the life of an able bodied adult in nigeria with a snap and mosquitos are every where,unchecked,uncontrolled and untamed because they seems to be smarter than humans.

The only time we can lay claims to longevity is when we start doing our home work right by creating a descent and habitable society for human habitation.

At least he made an impact before he went.

Gawd,
This guy is good!!

redsun:

The average life-span in nigeria is 45years due acute maladmistration.People shouldn't be surprise when people die in nigeria,it is such a crazy society that staying alive is a stroke of luck,a matter of being at the right place at the right time.

Nothing whatsoever is in place to keep a common man alive in nigeria,ordinary mosquito can take the life of an able bodied adult in nigeria with a snap and mosquitos are every where,unchecked,uncontrolled and untamed because they seems to be smarter than humans.

The only time we can lay claims to longevity is when we start doing our home work right by creating a descent and habitable society for human habitation.

At least he made an impact before he went.

Well said.

We are yet to evolve a society where we realize that the results we get are directly related to what we do and penalties for offenses actually deter people from being reckless in their attitudes.

Look at it this way,a drunk driver may run into a pedestrian or a truck.Whichever way ,somebody gets terribly injured or dies.

I really feel for the guy but have we evolved a society that punishes the person who parked the truck recklessly and the person driving while he is drunk even before any accident occur?

Quote from Nazeow

'Am sure the Doctors at the Hospital tried their best but to no avail.Let stop pointing fingers now and pray for DAGRIN and also his family who are crying their eyes out for the great loss which is inconsolable.GOVERNOR FASHOLA SHOULD MOUNT A CAMPAIGN AGAINST DRINK DRIVING IN LAGOS STATE and other artist should stop glorifying drinking alcohol in their musical videos and debasing our young ladies as intimacy objects'.

Thats is just the truth, or who doesnt know that nothing is working well in the country, including the health system?

smh@drive through morgues

like some people have noted here, when public figures are involved, measures are taken.
why can't the govt. just act on these issues like security (the latest case being Rimi), now medicare (Dagrin)
the list is endless, power, bad roads, etc

simple am sure if he was taking to a specialist hospital like eko, lagoon and st nicolas am sure the dude wuld av survived o.

the fire has burnt the pastor, and everybody's asking whether it left his beard(igbo proverb), dagrin is dead, RIP,, it's happened and it's as simple as that. there are injuries that are classified as severe, brain injuries, chest ettc which may not be obvious on the surface by merely looking at the pt. it's a 5-10% chance of surviving in the best centres not considering the complications such as having a human vegetable as left over.

let's quit looking for who to blame, it's all of us that are to blame, including dagrin.

the moment we stop being timid and rise against the devils in this country, that's when well stop dying in vain.

Excuse me-

In America, people have accidents and die- daily- is that a result of their poor healthcare system?

He had two prominent injuries that should have required he take a CT scan immediately and see a neurosurgeon - fractured skull and significant swelling in the head. This are sure signs he either was bleeding in the brain or there was massive brain swelling . . . both conditions can put a patient into a prolonged coma.

The state of healthcare in Nigeria is terrible. I feel sorry for people that has to live in that country and actually depend on Nigeria hospitals because they have no way out. I have lost two aunts to preventable illness because the healthcare in the country is a joke. If they were living in the US, they would still be alive today.

50 cent and kanye have both gone through worse, the medical system in nigeria is to be blamed ,, inadequate medical infrastuctutes, didnt they do an MRI scan to check his brain was fractured   ?  an mri scan would have shown the intensity of the fractured brain, besides da grin spoke about death freely in few of his song, ti olorun  o ba pami ehn ki lo tu ku (yq feat dagrin) efimile, and the unrealeased track if i die , whichever way i loved his songs and he would surely be remembered in nigerias music industry, RIP LEGEND O GRIN

I was almost in the same situation months ago. Some animal parked a trailer on the road without a caution sign. There were streetlights and I drank nothing.

There are certain places you don't expect certain things to be. Besides, the rear of a trailer is not like the back-view of bus or other small vehicles - just a small horizontal protrusion with no reflectors. I had to turn back and place my own caution sign behind the trailer. I don't think I would have ever been able to live with myself if someone ran under that stuff and maybe got fatally wounded or even killed.

In Da Grin's case, I believe some other persons must have had near-misses with the trailer that killed him. Maybe there are several people who could have saved his life by placing their own 'caution triangle' behind the trailer.

We are really all brothers and sisters, and one small kind act could save lives.

There are always bound to be animals: wild, careless, irresponsible persons and even insensitive politicians among us. What can we contribute individually to cushion or even reverse the effects of their actions (and inactions)?

Really, the apathy displayed by our politicians and policy makers towards the miseries of the average Nigerian is really a reflection of who we are as a people; a people who do not care. Are not our politicians from amongst us?

We can save the world one kind act at a time, one 'caution triangle' at a time. We should all be responsible to each other. We should all be socially responsible.

Finally, I in no way claim to be an angel or something close. If I remind you today, you could be one to remind me and several other persons tomorrow. I end with these two quotes:

"Each small act of kindness reverberates across great distances and spans of time, affecting lives unknown to the one whose generous spirit was the source of the good echo, because kindness is passed on and grows each time it is passed, until simple courtesy becomes an act of selfless courage years later and far away. Likewise, each small meanness, each expression of hatred, each act of evil."

---------Dean Koontz in the character of H.R. White in 'From the Corner of His Eye'.

". . .No man is an island, entire of itself, any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

-----------John Donne (1572).

Quote from: oyinda. on April 23, 2010, 03:25 AM
Why do I think the guy could still be alive if Nigerian health care system was better!?
I mean i read in the news that the guy had a wound on his jaw and other injuries like that. why is he dead?
first place they took him to didn't even have equipments all the time wasted between transferring him to LUTH and even there i question the medical attention he received. I mean even presidents are flown out of the country for medical attention for a reason

That's silly. Yes, Nigerian hospitals are rubbish but that's mainly because of lack of investment and the difficult conditions they have to work in. If we keep flying everybody abroad instead of fixing the problems at home then our young doctors will never get the chance to learn. Believe it or not American doctors were once much worse.

Quote form Wikipedia: "The doctors killed Garfield, I just shot him"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_James_A._Garfield

if the guy was drunk as some posts indicate - then i don't have that much sympathy for him - at least he was the only victim of his irresponsible recklessness - remember the doctor/family man killed by that ex beauty queen a few years ago? (also drunk driving + hit and run)

@labiyemmy:

Excuse me-

In America, people have accidents and die- daily- is that a result of their poor healthcare system?

gbam! on point

@  Choco5    


Point of correction. Do your research before you post. None of those people you named attend hospital in USA.


Mariam babangida (Germany) and Stella obasanjo (Spain)