ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

* It's because of people like you Nigeria is what it is Today. There has been serious Campaign on Auto Section on Dealer's Transparency but nobody said nothing on illiterates like you. I lost a deal over the Weekend on a 2009 Toyota Camry with 133,000 Original miles, buyer said 133,000 miles is too high for a 9 year Old Car. I marveled at his Stupidity

Besides, N2.1m quoted above is Asking Price which is subject to negotiation. Need I say much about the high mileage Let me just stop here before I get banned

calculusx:


* It's because of people like you Nigeria is what it is Today. There has been serious Campaign on Auto Section on Dealer's Transparency but nobody said nothing on illiterates like you. I lost a deal over the Weekend on a 2009 Toyota Camry with 133,000 Original miles, buyer said 133,000 miles is too high for a 9 year Old Car. I marveled at his Stupidity

Besides, N2.1m quoted above is Asking Price which is subject to negotiation. Need I say much about the high mileage Let me just stop here before I get banned

tahoe:



most of them have champagne taste but beer budget

* You nailed it

ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

Bros,
What mileage are you looking for and how much you go fit pay
This mileage fever sef...

calculusx:


* It's because of people like you Nigeria is what it is Today. There has been serious Campaign on Auto Section on Dealer's Transparency but nobody said nothing on illiterates like you. I lost a deal over the Weekend on a 2009 Toyota Camry with 133,000 Original miles, buyer said 133,000 miles is too high for a 9 year Old Car. I marveled at his Stupidity

Besides, N2.1m quoted above is Asking Price which is subject to negotiation. Need I say much about the high mileage Let me just stop here before I get banned

calculusx:
@ Explorers and Ipfreely, We all appreciate your effort on the other thread but you need to do more by enlightening most of these buyers.
Majority doesn't even know how mileage is been calculated. If every sedan in US is estimated to have an average of 15,000 miles per year, a 13yr old Camry is expected to have 195,000 in 2018. If mileage on this Car shows 100,000, it's this same set of people that will raise alarm. An average Nigerian doesn't appreciate the truth except deceit. What do Nigerians want sef?

calculusx:
@ Explorers and Ipfreely, We all appreciate your effort on the other thread but you need to do more by enlightening most of these buyers.
Majority doesn't even know how mileage is been calculated. If every sedan in US is estimated to have an average of 15,000 miles per year, a 13yr old Camry is expected to have 195,000 in 2018. If mileage on this Car shows 100,000, it's this same set of people that will raise alarm. An average Nigerian doesn't appreciate the truth except deceit. What do Nigerians want sef?

ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

stanbuggy:
Oga forget story...2.1M is outrageous for this Car...Anyways wetin i know...All the best in your Sales!

ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

ikegwegbe:
2.1m for this car with such mileage, I bow for you

msochi:
calculus my oga, this is meg yucy autos,tell the chimp to go ship in an accident free and calculate the total landing cost.... all these windowshoppers think sey moto dey fly come from heaven... ishi bulldozer

calculusx:
@ Explorers and Ipfreely, We all appreciate your effort on the other thread but you need to do more by enlightening most of these buyers.
Majority doesn't even know how mileage is been calculated. If every sedan in US is estimated to have an average of 15,000 miles per year, a 13yr old Camry is expected to have 195,000 in 2018. If mileage on this Car shows 100,000, it's this same set of people that will raise alarm. An average Nigerian doesn't appreciate the truth except deceit. What do Nigerians want sef?

olumide4christ:


Bros...you nailed it ooo! Beyond all the full disclosure brouhaha on Explorers thread & so many other advert threads in Auto section which has faulted the car dealers, I have observed that little or nothing has been said by many of the contributors to address the negative nature of the average Nigerian who expect to buy good quality for peanuts & don't want to hear the truth when they are told.
Like they say...it takes two to tango...in any transaction. I'm of course not a car dealer, I support full disclosure which you are doing but things like this happen a lot in my industry too, so its necessary to see things from both sides of the divide.

olumide4christ:


Bros...you nailed it ooo! Beyond all the full disclosure brouhaha on Explorers thread & so many other advert threads in Auto section which has faulted the car dealers, I have observed that little or nothing has been said by many of the contributors to address the negative nature of the average Nigerian who expect to buy good quality for peanuts & don't want to hear the truth when they are told.
Like they say...it takes two to tango...in any transaction. I'm of course not a car dealer, I totally support full disclosure which you are doing however, things like this happen a lot in my industry too, so its necessary to see things from both sides of the divide.

msochi:
you too nailed it like concrete nail.... break every shaku shaku walls of windowshoppers

Ipfreely:


Morning to You.

It's best to have all or at least a significant proportion of the facts about any subject before you make comments pertaining to it.

There are several indices that determine how good a used car is, 'used' because we refer to them as 'tokunbo' then we tend to forget that these are used vehicles.

The mileage is just one factor. The general condition of the vehicle, reasons for sale, title and history, and frame, transmission and engine condition. Of these, the least reliable, especially in Nigeria and much of the other countries where US used vehicles are exported to, are the general aesthetic condition and the mileage.

This is because those can be rather easily manipulated. Odometer rollback isn't a particularly complex process, especially for older, pre-2014 vehicles. Mileage can be a deceptive index if considered separate from the other aspects of the vehicle. In general the higher the mileage, the more wear and tear. In general.

The average annual mileage for a vehicle in North America has been estimated by most quarters to be 15,000 miles(the Americans often don't use the metric system, km). What this means is that a 10 year vehicle would in general have an average mileage of 150,000 miles. In general. Vehicles used as Cabs or other transportation enterprises would have significantly higher figures. Those figures could also be genuinely much less, but that could also be a red flag. It could indicate that an event rendered the vehicle immobile for sometime. Or it could just mean that the vehicle was genuinely not used much.

In the above case, other things such as absence of accidents and presence of a clean title or history, coupled with the genuinely low mileage, the vehicle in question would cost significantly more than other vehicles in its class and category.

The general condition can also be repaired and a fresh paint coat slapped on the vehicle.

In assessing a North American used vehicle, when you obtain a VIN report such as Carfax, it provides an approximate but detailed history of the vehicle. This helps to create a better picture of its condition, and gives you an idea what it's mileage should be. This, coupled with a professional physical inspection including engine tests should suffice to assess the vehicle holistically.

The above applies to vehicles from North America. For Europe and most of Asia, they aren't as adept as record keeping. Even the vehicle VINs are often not standard 17 digit numbers and may not be found on any database anywhere, so there may be no history available.

In that case professional physical inspection is most important. The mileage should only be factored in if it were excessively high, like a 10 year vehicle from Germany with 300,000 miles.

We need to be realistic and gain some knowledge about vehicle sales and imports to enable us ask the right questions. You should not, in your search for Vehicles, be guided solely by the mileage.

That would lead you to situations you would probably come to regret.

Do you consider 150,000 miles a high mileage for either a toks or Naija used?

calculusx:


* It's because of people like you Nigeria is what it is Today. There has been serious Campaign on Auto Section on Dealer's Transparency but nobody said nothing on illiterates like you. I lost a deal over the Weekend on a 2009 Toyota Camry with 133,000 Original miles, buyer said 133,000 miles is too high for a 9 year Old Car. I marveled at his Stupidity

Besides, N2.1m quoted above is Asking Price which is subject to negotiation. Need I say much about the high mileage Let me just stop here before I get banned

ikegwegbe:
Well good luck in your sales

naturalwaves:

Your argument is flawed and does not follow. Good mileage is a good yardstick for car selling. The fact that a vehicle is a 2009 model or 2005 model does not mean that it was bought that year. If I want a brand new Toyota Camry 2011 SE, I can still get it in 2018. Even if I want to buy it now as Tokunbo, I will look for one with a very good mileage. The one whose first owner most likely bought it in 2013/ 2014 or thereabout. I am personally turned off once I see anything around 100,000 talkless of 133,000 or 190k+. When sourcing for cars too, make a low unedited mileage your priority in order to get a better pricing. This does not necessarily imply that a car with a lower mileage will outperform a higher one because the manner of use and servicing plays an important role too. Hope you get my drift?

* Tell me how much you will Pay for a 2005 Toyota Camry with mileage below 120,000? Kelley Blue book Value for a 2005 Toyota Camry is $5,500. Factor in all other expenses including cost of clearing {which your Federal Government is increasing March 17th } and let me know what the actual cost will be. It's true the popular saying that humans are very hard to please was making a direct reference Nigerians. Importing Cars from US is very easy these days, Google will do the justice. From your input,
you put the Cart before the horse. Everyone loves low mileage but how many people can afford to pay for it? I have a Clean Title 2008 Camry SE seating in my lot for more than 6 months, i have sold more than 20 units of Salvage of the same Camry in 6 months. If you are a business man and you want to remain in business what will you do? Be Transparent, we displayed Vin, the next minute you start complaining of high mileage. How can we move forward as a Nation when deceit is the order of the day. Nigerians sef, what do we want?....hisssss

naturalwaves:

Your argument is flawed and does not follow. Good mileage is a good yardstick for car selling. The fact that a vehicle is a 2009 model or 2005 model does not mean that it was bought that year. If I want a brand new Toyota Camry 2011 SE, I can still get it in 2018. Even if I want to buy it now as Tokunbo, I will look for one with a very good mileage. The one whose first owner most likely bought it in 2013/ 2014 or thereabout. I am personally turned off once I see anything around 100,000 talkless of 133,000 or 190k+. When sourcing for cars too, make a low unedited mileage your priority in order to get a better pricing. This does not necessarily imply that a car with a lower mileage will outperform a higher one because the manner of use and servicing plays an important role too. Hope you get my drift?

naturalwaves:

Your argument is flawed and does not follow. Good mileage is a good yardstick for car selling. The fact that a vehicle is a 2009 model or 2005 model does not mean that it was bought that year. If I want a brand new Toyota Camry 2011 SE, I can still get it in 2018. Even if I want to buy it now as Tokunbo, I will look for one with a very good mileage. The one whose first owner most likely bought it in 2013/ 2014 or thereabout. I am personally turned off once I see anything around 100,000 talkless of 133,000 or 190k+. When sourcing for cars too, make a low unedited mileage your priority in order to get a better pricing. This does not necessarily imply that a car with a lower mileage will outperform a higher one because the manner of use and servicing plays an important role too. Hope you get my drift?

Ipfreely:


Morning to You.

It's best to have all or at least a significant proportion of the facts about any subject before you make comment

bravolad:


Your analysis and assumptions are wrong. It's very rare to get a brand new 2011 car in 2018. Even if you get, the price will almost outweigh the benefit as u could get a newer model with less than 8k miles for less amount.

This same car with a less than 100k mileage will cost much higher than most people can afford. You also need to know that mileage is not the only yardstick of measurement for a clean car.

People like you don't deserve the truth and most often fall into the wrong hands. I truly don't understand why Nigerians are difficult to please. No wonder most sincere people rarely go far in business. This is also why some dealers tamer with the mileage & sell quicker to unsuspecting buyers.

calculusx:


* Tell me how much you will Pay for a 2005 Toyota Camry with mileage below 120,000? Kelley Blue book Value for a 2005 Toyota Camry is $5,500. Factor in all other expenses including cost of clearing {which your Federal Government is increasing March 17th } and let me know what the actual cost will be. It's true the popular saying that humans are very hard to please was making a direct reference Nigerians. Importing Cars from US is very easy these days, Google will do the justice. From your input,
you put the Cart before the horse. Everyone loves low mileage but how many people can afford to pay for it? I have a Clean Title 2008 Camry SE seating in my lot for more than 6 months, i have sold more than 20 units of Salvage of the same Camry in 6 months. If you are a business man and you want to remain in business what will you do? Be Transparent, we displayed Vin, the next minute you start complaining of high mileage. How can we move forward as a Nation when deceit is the order of the day. Nigerians sef, what do we want?....hisssss

Ipfreely:


I think this post was specifically made for you.

https://www.nairaland.com/4383534/tin-can-cleared-2005-toyota-camry#65628632