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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by earthcrust: 3:52pm On Mar 10, 2018
Good bye to Daura
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by WisdomFlakes: 4:04pm On Mar 10, 2018
desgiezd:
PMB's decision not to intervene in the election that brought Saraki in as the Senate President has now turned 360 degrees to hunt him.

Saraki has a strange stranglehold on that Senate and any Senator that opposes him will kiss the dust!

That costly mistake may well cost him his presidency (at worst), because Saraki has consolidated his control of the upper chamber. The PDP senators are ever loyal, while disgruntled APC senators who are at odds with their state governors are also loyal to him. Buhari's handling of that episode exposed him as a very dumb politician.

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by macaphan007(m): 4:06pm On Mar 10, 2018
sayyid:
"We've been conditioned to think that only politicians can solve our problems. But at some point, maybe we will wake up and recognize that it was politicians who created our problems."

Ben Carson
Exactly!!!
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by papoudaupolos: 4:08pm On Mar 10, 2018
dignity33:

And what was Buhari aim even refusing to resign when is obvious he has failed?
You too have failed but refused to kil urself
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by wakeupafricanyo: 4:27pm On Mar 10, 2018
DANKWAMBO time ticking
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by senatordave1(m): 4:28pm On Mar 10, 2018
The reordering of the election sequence by nass is illegal,null and void and would not stand.the electoral act is inferior to the constitution which gives all powers over election matters and voters registrstion to inec.or is nass now also an electoral body? Does students have the power to determine when their exams would start and which would start 1st?
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by Olumaeme: 5:03pm On Mar 10, 2018
desgiezd:
PMB's decision not to intervene in the election that brought Saraki in as the Senate President has now turned 360 degrees to hunt him.

Saraki has a strange stranglehold on that Senate and any Senator that opposes him will kiss the dust!

There's absolutely nothing buhari would have done about it.
Saraki is politically exposed and intelligent, buhari is naive and politically senseless, he will be beaten blue black anytime any day by Saraki..

One amazing thing about Saraki is that, you hardly know his plan, you just wake up see him solve the problem without shouting...

Give it to that guy
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by LouisVanGaal(m): 5:03pm On Mar 10, 2018
kross01:


With this kind of statement there is no doubt we have a very long way to go in our national politics. People like you ascribe an infallible status to an elected president. If your president is all knowing why then exists other checks and balances to the executive powers of which the senate is one of such checks? Incase you do not know, in the American presidential system which we copy, last year it was Republican senators that shot down one of President Trump's major electoral promises (removing obamacare) and nobody saw it as an insult to Trump. Till you know that as a representative your first loyalty lies with your people whom you represent and not to your party nor your president, only then can things get better in this country.
Don't say what you don't know!
Only 3 Republican senators that didn't support the bill.. reason being that their states would be highly affected, and can cause them failure in this year's mid-term re-elections.
Also, the bill was crafted behind closed doors and had NO inputs by female senators..
the senators that didn't support it include : Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Susanne Collins (Maine) and John McCain (Arizona).
besides it was Mc Cain that nailed the coffin
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by Olumaeme: 5:06pm On Mar 10, 2018
senatordave1:
The reordering of the election sequence by nass is illegal,null and void and would not stand.the electoral act is inferior to the constitution which gives all powers over election matters and voters registrstion to inec.or is nass now also an electoral body? Does students have the power to determine when their exams would start and which would start 1st?

The people can decide to alter any law at any time, to suit the time and purpose, Nigerians use the constitution not the other way round, the legislators are the direct representative of the people, and when the people talk, they have spoken
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by LouisVanGaal(m): 5:11pm On Mar 10, 2018
Olumaeme:


There's absolutely nothing buhari would have done about it.
Saraki is politically exposed and intelligent, buhari is naive and politically senseless, he will be beaten blue black anytime any day by Saraki..

One amazing thing about Saraki is that, you hardly know his plan, you just wake up see him solve the problem without shouting...

Give it to that guy
Before 99, was OBJ a politician??
He learnt the trade quickly when he returned to presidency in civilian rule... that when you are in power, you are WITH power...
did you not see how he muscled out Senate Presidents.. Evan Enwerem, Chuba Okadigbo (RIP) and Adolphus Wabara from their position
how he messed up Atiku who was into politics before him
If PMB really wants to deal with Saraki, he would do it.. and get away with it.. nobody would cry Jack...
He just haven't seen how Saraki can be dangerous to him... And it baffles all

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by kross01(m): 5:22pm On Mar 10, 2018
LouisVanGaal:
Don't say what you don't know!
Only 3 Republican senators that didn't support the bill.. reason being that their states would be highly affected, and can cause them failure in this year's mid-term re-elections.
Also, the bill was crafted behind closed doors and had NO inputs by female senators..
the senators that didn't support it include : Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Susanne Collins (Maine) and John McCain (Arizona).
besides it was Mc Cain that nailed the coffin
After all you wrote here you only ended up advertising your stupidity. I said republicans shot it down, you ended up affirming that 3 republican senators killed the bill including McCain who left his hospital bed just to come ensure he voted on the bill. I said the senators' loyalties lies with their people which was why they voted down the bill, you confirmed same thing that they voted down the bill because their states will be affected and can cause them failure in mid term elections. Yet after all these you want me to get into a senseless argument with you based on your opening sentence? I have better things to do with my time bro, enjoy!

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by BerryAnny(m): 5:52pm On Mar 10, 2018
muykem:
it's highest insult you can think of. It has never happened since 1999 and it will not happen now.
Did you buy your foolishness or you get it for free? It is clearly stated in the constitution that a two-third of the upper and lower chambers can pass a bill into law without the president assent. But since all what you know how to do is to be abusing your elders,displaying your stupidity and spoiling your family's tiny crumbles of heritage on Nairaland everyday and night,you might be ignorant of what makes up a country. Mumu!!!
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by Gbless86: 5:55pm On Mar 10, 2018
#The sequence for d elections isn't bad .only dose who dnt have confidence in them selves of winning the election s without rig are d ones opposing it. Ovie Omo Age is so foolish to ascribed to his pity.
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by Olumaeme: 6:31pm On Mar 10, 2018
LouisVanGaal:
Before 99, was OBJ a politician??
He learnt the trade quickly when he returned to presidency in civilian rule... that when you are in power, you are WITH power...
did you not see how he muscled out Senate Presidents.. Evan Enwerem, Chuba Okadigbo (RIP) and Adolphus Wabara from their position
how he messed up Atiku who was into politics before him
If PMB really wants to deal with Saraki, he would do it.. and get away with it.. nobody would cry Jack...
He just haven't seen how Saraki can be dangerous to him... And it baffles all

I do not want to say Buhari is not intelligent outrightly, but trust me, he's too dumb to take on Saraki.

Let Me also tell you that, what Obasanjo did those days, he can't do it now, because of the level of politically exposure now.
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by Dhugal: 6:45pm On Mar 10, 2018
muykem:
it's highest insult you can think of. It has never happened since 1999 and it will not happen now.
The NDDC Act was passed into law by an override of Obasanjo's veto.
The Constitution specifically has that provision to check against the foisting of an 'emperor' on us like you zombies are trying to do.

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by Nobody: 6:52pm On Mar 10, 2018
I hope one day to see the legislature and executive spoil for war to provide us with electricity,good roads and portable water.

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by senatordave1(m): 8:58pm On Mar 10, 2018
Olumaeme:


The people can decide to alter any law at any time, to suit the time and purpose, Nigerians use the constitution not the other way round, the legislators are the direct representative of the people, and when the people talk, they have spoken
I would have abused you but i dont want to be banned.is this a kangaroo republic? Is that how they behave in your village? So the lawmakers who dont care about the masses should just make laws thats against the constitution abi? Where is that done? In order to avoid disgrace,please ask when you dont understand.inec has been given the power to deal with electoral matters including sequence of elections.if you must take away that power,you must amend the constitution or take it up with the supreme court.shikena.
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by SirBunky85(m): 9:27pm On Mar 10, 2018
yns4real:
Leke Baiyewu, Abuja

More facts have emerged on the alleged gang-up against the Senate President, Dr. Bukola Saraki; Deputy Senate President, Ike Ekweremadu; and other principal officers of the legislative chamber.

Saturday PUNCH has reliably gathered that there is indeed a group of senators in the All Progressives Congress caucus who are loyal to President Muhammadu Buhari and are bent on defending him on the controversial amendment to the Electoral Act 2010.

PUNCH had exclusively reported that both the Senate and the House of Representatives were set to override Buhari should he fail or refuse to assent to the bill, but the intention did not go down well with lawmakers loyal to the President, who felt it would be an “insult” to him if overridden by the National Assembly.

Adoption of the report by the Senate and House of Representatives’ Conference Committee on the Amendment to the Electoral Act had caused a sharp division in the ranks of the All Progressives Congress caucus in the Senate.

The conference committee had approved a new Section 25 in the Electoral Act which states that the sequence of the elections will commence with the National Assembly poll, to be followed by the governorship and State Houses of Assembly elections, while the presidential poll will come last.

The Senate had adopted the report by the committee, which generated controversy.

Saraki had also blocked protests by three senators against the passage, leading to 10 APC members storming out of the chamber.

The senators were Abdullahi Adamu (Nasarawa-West), Abu Ibrahim (Katsina-North), Abdullahi Gumel (Jigawa-North), Ali Wakili (Bauchi-South), Binta Masi Garba (Adamawa-North), Ovie Omo-Agege (Delta-Central), Umar Kurfi (Katsina-Central), Andrew Uchendu (Rivers-East), Benjamin Uwajumogu (Imo-North), and Abdullahi Yahaya (Kebbi-North).

The crisis became dramatic when the Senate resolved to query Omo-Agege, based on a petition by Senator Dino Melaye, for saying the amendment was targeted at President Muhammadu Buhari, while the Committee on Ethics, Privileges and Public Petitions was mandated to carry out a probe into the claim.

Omo-Agege had, however, raised a point of order at the plenary to apologise to the chamber and withdrew his comment.

The same day, the Northern Senators’ Forum had sacked Adamu as a leader and replaced him with Senator Aliyu Wamakko.

A member of the pro-Buhari group, who spoke to our correspondent on the condition of anonymity on Thursday night, dismissed the alarm raised by Senator Obinna Ogba (PDP, Ebonyi-Central) at the plenary on Thursday that there was a plot led by Adamu to remove Saraki and other leaders of the Senate.

While the Senate panel probing Omo-Agege was asked to probe Adamu over the alleged anti-Saraki plot, the ex-governor had denied the allegation but insisted that he would remain resolute on his position on certain issues in the chamber.

The pro-Adamu senator disclosed to our correspondent that the group was mobilising for a counter-move against those loyal to Saraki who seemed to be working against Buhari’s re-election in 2019.

According to the APC senator from the South-West, it will be a major “insult” to Buhari if the President vetoes the Electoral Act Amendment Bill and the Senate overrides him.

He said, “Politics is full of cheats and lies. All that they were saying concerning the removal of Saraki is a lie. They only want attention because they are afraid. What the group wants to achieve is to never allow those people to rubbish Buhari. We won’t let them veto Buhari; it is an insult to him and to us.

“The group was formed because of this issue of elections re-order. They want to rubbish Buhari and we won’t support it. Buhari has his shortcomings but how can they just decide to veto the President? If they can get two-thirds of the members to do that, it means they can also impeach the President. And that is what the group wants to prevent. Nobody cares about Saraki’s seat.”

Although Adamu, who has been accused of spearheading the plot for Saraki’s removal, has denied making such move, the source told our correspondent that if the ongoing probe by the Senate led to Adamu’s suspension, there would be a crisis in the chamber.

“They won’t suspend them but if they do, they will create problems for Saraki which he would not want because he is also supporting the President indirectly. The cases they are handling now can create problems in the Senate. They must not suspend them. If they suspend them, it means they have looked for trouble.”

According to the lawmaker, former governors in the chamber will defend Adamu, who was once a governor of Nasarawa State. He also said Wamakko, an ex-governor of Sokoto State, might reject his appointment to replace Adamu as Chairman of the Northern Senators’ Forum.

He said, “Initially, most of the ex-governors were new in the Senate and had not gained their ground. But now, they can fight. At least 19 governors will fight Saraki if Adamu is suspended. Buhari won’t have less than 12 APC governors that will support him. Eventually, Wamakko might say no (to the appointment). He might reject it.”

Another member of the APC caucus from the North-West, however, stated that Adamu and Omo-Agege risked suspension, warning that the ex-governor’s case might be like that of the suspended member of the House of Representatives, Abdulmumin Jibrin.

He also cited the example of Senator Ali Ndume, who was removed as leader of the APC caucus and Majority Leader of the Senate for opposing the Senate’s rejection of the appointment of Ibrahim Magu as Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission. Ndume was later suspended for asking the Senate to investigate scandals involving Saraki and Melaye.

The senator said, “I think the best thing for him (Adamu) is to keep quiet. If he drags this issue further, they will send him out of that Senate. Yes. There is no doubt about it. The people there are angry and ready to crush anybody. The best thing for him is to keep quiet and do his thing, and simply ignore everything. But if he now wants to engage them, he will end up doing like Omo-Agege.”

The lawmaker noted that the Presidency was not always protecting those who suffer in defence of Buhari and his administration. He warned that Adamu and other senators fighting in defence of Buhari might regret their actions.

“The Presidential Villa has this kind of attitude. If they block him here (at the Senate), they will block him there (at the Presidency) too. You see what happened to Jibrin? You see what happened to Ndume?”

When asked if Omo-Agege might get a soft landing after apologising to the Senate, the source said it remained uncertain. The senator was also asked if pro-Saraki senators were after the rest of the 10 senator who openly opposed the Senate on the amendment, he said, “It is only him. This is to send a message. And they know that it is not the kind of a normal government where if anything happens to you, the other side (Presidency) will help you. They will not help you. Even, they will block your finances, block your office and everything.”

Also speaking to our correspondent, Senator Ali Wakili (APC, Bauchi-South), who had challenged Adamu’s removal as northern senators’ leader, noted that the lawmakers would speak when the panel’s report would be considered in the Senate.

“When we debate it, we will speak. It is preemptive. They will definitely bring it to the floor of the Senate. It has gone to the Committee on Ethics, Privileges and Public Petitions; let them come out with their findings. We will be alive and we will talk.”


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senator adamus case can't be like dat of jubrin cuz,d later wasn't a pmb loyalist, he just fell out with his fellow looters and was crying wolf but adamu has bn a governor and has some of d ex-governors on his side.saraki knows dose he can touch and goes free.all dese nonsense from Dino and saraki is cuz,pmb doesn't know how to play rugged politics.if it were to be obj,he would've taught dem a bitter lesson.
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by SirBunky85(m): 9:30pm On Mar 10, 2018
livinglion:
So to override a bill and pass it into law is an insult to Buhari?
When I checked the academic qualification of some of these senators from the north most of them are SSCE holders.
Good education, good leg
islation
even if dey override pmb,inec won't accept it.pmb will order inec to shun it and we will be shouting upandan and nothing will happen.last last d senate will go to court and before before d courts will deliver dia judgment, elections have come and gone

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by SirBunky85(m): 9:34pm On Mar 10, 2018
Ovamboland:


You don't understand the presidential system.
A veto from the president means after due considerations the law will not be in the best interest of the country. And it is expected that he would have consulted with his party members in the legislature comprising other party members.

For a legislature in which his party members constitute majority it's a major failure and a big insult to the ruling party and the president for it's members to join opposition to override a presidential veto
u even get time to dey lecture people who don't know what it means for a president to be vetoed by majority of his party members in d legislature
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by SirBunky85(m): 9:41pm On Mar 10, 2018
kross01:


With this kind of statement there is no doubt we have a very long way to go in our national politics. People like you ascribe an infallible status to an elected president. If your president is all knowing why then exists other checks and balances to the executive powers of which the senate is one of such checks? Incase you do not know, in the American presidential system which we copy, last year it was Republican senators that shot down one of President Trump's major electoral promises (removing obamacare) and nobody saw it as an insult to Trump. Till you know that as a representative your first loyalty lies with your people whom you represent and not to your party nor your president, only then can things get better in this country.
Mr man forget ur republican, did is naija,where objectivity is non existent. once d senate succeeds in dia overriding plot against d president, dey will be using it to blackmail d president and might as well impeach him if he doesn't do what dey want.naija is not ripe for dat now else, we will be changing presidents thrice in four years.from d onset, dat re ordering of election bill was self-serving. even d speed with which it was passed was suspicious. pmb shud fight dem dirty like obj did else,dey would rubbish him

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by SirBunky85(m): 9:43pm On Mar 10, 2018
Xisnin:
Pro-Buhari senators are weak senators gasping for breaths because
they cannot win an election without attachment to Buhari's name.
adamu was a former governor and is popular in nasarawa
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by SirBunky85(m): 9:51pm On Mar 10, 2018
oloripelebe2:
This Saraki is too powerful, even powerful than Buhari


I don't really understand the fuss about this election sequence


Buhari shouldn't be afraid of the election sequence since their is no popular candidate than him in Nigeria angry grin grin (according to zombies)
u don't even know d game.saraki was being blackmailed by d PDP to do dia bidding by re ordering d election time table else, dey withdraw dia support for him. saraki has nothing to gain from did re ordering cuz,he will always win any election he contests in kwara state.dis amendment was done cuz of PDP members and some APC members who have fallen out out of favour from d party eg dino,shehu sani, kwankwaso,etc.PDP holds d ace in both houses dats why saraki and dogara always go against dia party through most of dia body languages
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by LouisVanGaal(m): 10:20pm On Mar 10, 2018
Olumaeme:


I do not want to say Buhari is not intelligent outrightly, but trust me, he's too dumb to take on Saraki.

Let Me also tell you that, what Obasanjo did those days, he can't do it now, because of the level of politically exposure now.

Lol.
The exposure thingy is on the masses.. but the card players resides in the NASS.. abi is it the masses that can remove Saraki, especially in our clime
if we like protest from now till 2019..if the senators don't see any reason to remove him... as it's the case now... he stays!

You think the senators backing Saraki are actually loyal to him in the real sense?? they are ONLY loyal to what they can get from him.. which is senate committee appointments.

Buhari has REFUSED to play the money politics, that's why Saraki has been able to survive this far..
How did you think OBJ did it whenever he wanted a particular SP out of his way...he approaches his SA to NASS who is a former Senator to mobilise candidates amongst themselves that can sign up impeachment order.. in exchange for juicy packages.
that's all, nothing goes for nothing! Do you think if PMB calls Dino Melaiye to Aso rock personally, Saraki won't start panicking? talk of striking a deal with him...

Since the history of Democracy in Nigeria, this particular senate hasn't enjoyed much 'Assistance' from the executives, like they are used to.. their way of fighting back is to oppose the executives from all angle. when PDP were in the majority at NASS, this bickering between the executives and legislators NEVER occurred, because brown envelopes and appointments were exchanging hands quietly..

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by LouisVanGaal(m): 10:25pm On Mar 10, 2018
SirBunky85:

u don't even know d game.saraki was being blackmailed by d PDP to do dia bidding by re ordering d election time table else, dey withdraw dia support for him. saraki has nothing to gain from did re ordering cuz,he will always win any election he contests in kwara state.dis amendment was done cuz of PDP members and some APC members who have fallen out out of favour from d party eg dino,shehu sani, kwankwaso,etc.PDP holds d ace in both houses dats why saraki and dogara always go against dia party through most of dia body languages
100% true...
Saraki wants to hold on to the position AT ALL COST, and he needs the support of PDP and a few rogue APC like him... No wonder PDP senators have mostly been the ones going to CCT court with him..
Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by Olumaeme: 10:20am On Mar 11, 2018
LouisVanGaal:

Lol.
The exposure thingy is on the masses.. but the card players resides in the NASS.. abi is it the masses that can remove Saraki, especially in our clime
if we like protest from now till 2019..if the senators don't see any reason to remove him... as it's the case now... he stays!

You think the senators backing Saraki are actually loyal to him in the real sense?? they are ONLY loyal to what they can get from him.. which is senate committee appointments.

Buhari has REFUSED to play the money politics, that's why Saraki has been able to survive this far..
How did you think OBJ did it whenever he wanted a particular SP out of his way...he approaches his SA to NASS who is a former Senator to mobilise candidates amongst themselves that can sign up impeachment order.. in exchange for juicy packages.
that's all, nothing goes for nothing! Do you think if PMB calls Dino Melaiye to Aso rock personally, Saraki won't start panicking? talk of striking a deal with him...

Since the history of Democracy in Nigeria, this particular senate hasn't enjoyed much 'Assistance' from the executives, like they are used to.. their way of fighting back is to oppose the executives from all angle. when PDP were in the majority at NASS, this bickering between the executives and legislators NEVER occurred, because brown envelopes and appointments were exchanging hands quietly..



Let me tell you something, money can't do all things, sometimes with your money, you will be defeated, if money can really work every time, why didn't Obasanjo get a third term with all the money he spent?

I agree that the Senators backing Saraki are doing that selfishly, but not just for the money.

It's in their best interest to team up with Saraki because, if he's embarrassed, they can be rest assured that they are not safe too, they have seen what has been happening before, they know that since the President has enormous powers, coming together to form a very strong bond will do the the good money cannot buy

If the senate has not been united, most of those former governors who has corruption cases might have been in serious trouble now, when they touch one senator, the whole senate rally around him and save Jim from embarrassment.

Give it to Saraki, he has been able to hold them together, with just little grumbling..

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Re: Elections Sequence: Pro-buhari, Pro-saraki Senators Spoil For War by SirBunky85(m): 1:54pm On Mar 11, 2018
LouisVanGaal:
100% true...
Saraki wants to hold on to the position AT ALL COST, and he needs the support of PDP and a few rogue APC like him... No wonder PDP senators have mostly been the ones going to CCT court with him..
he either does what PDP wants or gets his ass kicked out as d senate presido.PDP made him d president of d senate so he must always consider dia interests first before dat of d apc

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