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Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:07am On Apr 11, 2018
Check out the unique brand of islam followed by the Cham tribe of Vietnam and Cambodia. The Cham (Champa) Empire were a powerful empire in Bygone times. Today mmany of them have converted to islam but have syncretized it in a manner that keeps it in line with their ancestral tradition as well as their tribal unity with Pagan Chams.

Can a similar, tolerant and peaceful form of islam be emulated by Nigerians too?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFcQHYq5E3c


CC lalasticlala Mynd44
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 7:25pm On Apr 11, 2018
I watched it months ago on YouTube. They are not MUSLIMS. Most likely Islam didn't reach them properly or they have no Ulama of Islam around them.

Be sincere to yourself, no mainstream Islam regardless of sects pray like this. These people may have good intention but are completely deprived of knowledge of Islam. So stop saying they are Muslims because they aren't. Simple
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:43pm On Apr 11, 2018
Empiree:
I watched it months ago on YouTube. They are not MUSLIMS. Most likely Islam didn't reach them properly or they have no Ulama of Islam around them.

Be sincere to yourself, no mainstream Islam regardless of sects pray like this. These people may have good intention but are completely deprived of knowledge of Islam. So stop saying they are Muslims because they aren't. Simple



THIS IS THE TRUE ISLAM!

STOP BEING A WAHABBI AND FORCING YOUR BELIEFS US!
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 9:14pm On Apr 11, 2018
PAGAN9JA:




THIS IS THE TRUE ISLAM!

STOP BEING A WAHABBI AND FORCING YOUR BELIEFS US!
òdè. What's wahabbi in this?. This is not how Muslims pray, silly. Stop being prejudice.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by 1Sharon(f): 4:09am On Apr 12, 2018
Allahu Akbar
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 10:47am On Apr 12, 2018
This tribe did not give room for Islam practice a.k.a Arabia culture to take over thier culture, but I still see bunch of deluded confused folks.

Why can't they worship Brahma instead of Allah?

Religion and delusion are not far from each other.

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Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 9:11pm On Apr 12, 2018
tintingz:
This tribe did not give room for Islam practice a.k.a Arabia culture to take over thier culture, but I still see bunch of deluded confused folks.

Why can't they worship Brahma instead of Allah?

Religion and delusion are not far from each other.
You know who is more deluded? Atheists. If you watched entire video you would know they are far from islam
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 6:58am On Apr 13, 2018
Empiree:
You know who is more deluded? Atheists. If you watched entire video you would know they are far from islam
We don't believe in imaginary entities to be real how are atheist deluded? grin

You're brought up to believe in your Islam, they are brought up to believe in thier Islam, every faith is claiming the right one, thier imaginary friend is on thier side. grin
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 11:49am On Apr 13, 2018
tintingz:
We don't believe in imaginary entities to be real how are atheist deluded? grin

Because when Atheist's life is in danger, he screams "oh my God". I don't understand why he can't scream "oh nothing" since he doesn't believe in anything cheesy
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 12:41pm On Apr 13, 2018
Empiree:
Because when Atheist's life is in danger, he screams "oh my God". I don't understand why he can't scream "oh nothing" since he doesn't believe in anything cheesy
This is fallacy, are you present when every atheist are in danger?

Steven Hawkins(the great physicist) was an atheist, despite his disability he still declare he does not believe God exist.

Christopher Hitchens, despite his health condition (cancer) he was present in a conference still in position of an atheist.

These people did not give in to religion even during thier difficult times.

There are atheist that scream "oh my God" unconsciously, this is because of the indoctrination from thier childhood, the injury is still there and "oh my God" has been a tradition for people, it doesn't mean those athiests believe in any God.

I am trying not to use "oh my God", I now use "oh my goodness" or "oh my nature" or any other stuff I like or have fun with.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by ayinba1(f): 1:55am On Apr 14, 2018
So, are you now an atheist?

tintingz:
This is fallacy, are you present when every atheist are in danger?

Steven Hawkins(the great physicist) was an atheist, despite his disability he still declare he does not believe God exist.

Christopher Hitchens, despite his health condition (cancer) he was present in a conference still in position of an atheist.

These people did not give in to religion even during thier difficult times.

There are atheist that scream "oh my God" unconsciously, this is because of the indoctrination from thier childhood, the injury is still there and "oh my God" has been a tradition for people, it doesn't mean those athiests believe in any God.

I am trying not to use "oh my God", I now use "oh my goodness" or "oh my nature" or any other stuff I like or have fun with.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 9:46am On Apr 14, 2018
ayinba1:
So, are you now an atheist?


Yes I'm.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by ayinba1(f): 2:04pm On Apr 14, 2018
For how long?

tintingz:
Yes I'm.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 8:31pm On Apr 14, 2018
ayinba1:
For how long?

Was Agnostic for 2 years then became an atheist last year.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by ayinba1(f): 2:46am On Apr 15, 2018
tintingz:
Was Agnostic for 2 years then became an atheist last year.

So for about 3 years in all!
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 10:29am On Apr 15, 2018
ayinba1:


So for about 3 years in all!

Yes.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by PAGAN9JA(m): 5:31am On Apr 17, 2018
Empiree:
òdè. What's wahabbi in this?. This is not how Muslims pray, silly. Stop being prejudice.

You are a false muslim. a munafiq
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 2:50pm On Apr 17, 2018
PAGAN9JA:


You are a false muslim. a munafiq
I know how pagans think. They want us to be like them.


"Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are PAGANS...."
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 4:05pm On Apr 17, 2018
tintingz:
Was Agnostic for 2 years then became an atheist last year.

When you used to have sense cheesy


Where did your sense go?

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Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 5:35pm On Apr 17, 2018
Empiree:


When you used to have sense cheesy


Where did your sense go?
My sense didn't go anywhere, what I realized now is that part of my sense was brainwashed, indoctrinated, caged but now I'm free from those. grin
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 5:54pm On Apr 17, 2018
tintingz:
My sense didn't go anywhere, what I realized now is that part of my sense was brainwashed, indoctrinated, caged but now I'm free from those. grin
So you have better sense now by taking as your god flying spaghetti?.

Incredible!
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by tintingz(m): 7:00pm On Apr 17, 2018
Empiree:
So you have better sense now by taking as your god flying spaghetti?.

Incredible!
Flying spaghetti monster is a free God that care less about worshiping him daily and doesn't threaten. grin grin
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:18pm On Apr 24, 2018
Empiree:
I know how pagans think. They want us to be like them.


"Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are PAGANS...."

I am Muslim. You are a munafiq.
Re: Cham Islam : Islam Amongst The Cham Tribe Of Vietnam-cambodia by Empiree: 3:15pm On Apr 24, 2018
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