Through persuasion and cogent arguments or experience. The same way I was a Buhari supporter in 2015 to get GEJ's rotten, clueless, weak administration out of power, and now I would vote my dog over Buhari if it meant him leaving.

If IPOB offers something of substance other than raving about the "zoo", I'm always open for persuasion. As long as ranting about the "zoo" and calling for election boycotts of the zoo is all they have to offer, and as long as they keep doing irritating nonsense like flying around Israel flags and peddling junk, Jewish myths, and as long as they remain intolerant of opposing views and intolerant of other Nigerians, then they seem little more than a cult of Kanu to me.

Yes, I insult him because he has done more than enough to earn it with his rhetoric. The reason I insult him in the first place is that insults are his modus operandi.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm going to do. That is why I'm on an internet forum instead of forming my political party. Because I don't care to participate in politics. Suggesting that public figures should be somehow immune to criticism if you're not leading some kind of revolution is some pretty strange rationale. It's like admonishing me for criticizing Buhari's government just because I am not running for office against Buhari. By that rationale, 99.99% of Nigerians have no right to discuss politics or criticize sleazy politicians

You mean like when Nnamdi Kanu claimed he was offered Biafra but he rejected it because he wanted Rivers and Benue? That is why I call the guy a charlatan. And there is no evidence Uwazuruike was bribed any more than Kanu. For starters, Obasanjo would have been far more likely to engage Uwazuruike than Buhari with Kanu. Buhari is far more disdainful of those he perceives as enemies and would consider it lowering himself to engage Kanu.

And that is even ignoring the avalanche of insults Kanu has directed at Buhari and Fulanis and Muslims in the past. I don't believe for a second Kanu had any chance of getting anything from the Federal Government. The only people who might have any notions of bribing him would be SE politicians. Everything about Kanu's narcissism (like the disgraceful pictures of people kissing his feet and genuflecting before him) indicates he is susceptible to the corruptions that power brings.

And extreme cynicism like that is why such an integration will always be a struggle. Tutsis, a minority, were massacred in Rwanda almost 25 years after the Nigerian civil war. A Tutsi today is a highly popular Rwandan President (despite his autocratic tendencies) that Rwandans wish could be their President for life. An Igbo man is even an Italian minister on the platform of an anti-immigrant party with ties to racist groups. If you're claiming Nigerians are too Igbophobic, then you're saying all Nigerians are irrationally hateful people that are irredeemable.

I don't buy that for a second. Nigerians are all bigots. This doesn't mean we can't work together if we can converse. Igbos have failed in Nigerian politics because we have made a number of miscalculations, have also been unlucky and our politicians recently have frankly not been of the quality of the Zik or Ekwueme days.

Not to mention the times that Buhari picked Igbo vices and Igbos completely rejected him with humiliating defeats and we always went like sheep for PDP. Why couldn't Igbos vote for a Buhari-Okadigbo ticket, for xample. Or the time that Ojukwu could barely get votes when he contested.

If Igbos had worked for a party like APC for example, rather than constituting bloc opposition to APC, I believe Buhari at his word that he would have handed over to an Igbo man. Buhari is many things, but I believe he has personal honesty and integrity and would have handed over to an Igbo if Igbos didn't constitute by far his most vociferous political opposition. I'm not saying this opposition is right or wrong. I'm pointing out that without that opposition, Igbos would be in a far stronger political position rather having all our eggs now in the PDP basket.

It's wrong to make it out that everyone is all against you. You're attributing fundamental evil to other Nigerians and ascribing fundamental goodness to Igbos. The reality is Igbos give every bit as much hate as they get and keep the hate cycle flowing. If you make the blame entirely one-sided, then there is no hope for reconciliation.

The 2nd emboldened is about all we agree on. If IPOB are to be taken seriously other than endlessly breeding resentment and raving about the "zoo", then the pathway to be followed is clear. Follow the political process and elect sympathetic representatives to represent your interests. Calling for election boycotts in manifestly stewpid. I just can't get over that idiocy.

waternogetenemy:
If any religion is going to grow in the SE, it is Judaism.

There is no room for Islam.

Igbo hate Islam and Muslims.

Saudi Arabia and Buhari are not very good role model.

ckenneths:
Like pieces of cakes, we keep eating away at our mountains and hills, all to get soft sand for building construction. ........

hammerFC:
Nnamdi Kanu have resurfaced, they have started visiting Igbo states and govs.

It will be much better if they fix Enugu to Onitsha Federal road or even complete the Enugu international airport.

Let us not mention second Naija Bridge.

They want to play on Igbo Christian kind heart to deceive them.

Ndi nzuzu are the only ones they decieve and we have ndi nzuzu plenty in Igbo land.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQoEa0ww308

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi post

All I see here is myopia and need to been seen as "detribalized". Every tom dick and Harry knows that a barely educated, old former military dictator, who truncated Nigeria 3rd Republic, who served under Abacha( the most corrupt Nigerian political office holder), who is also a known tribal bigot, could never have been a better option to GEJ. Infact, the above highlights how your innate need to appear politically correct often lead you on the wrong side of available options.
Those of us who are not held back by the need to be seen as detribalized always see the bigger picture.

IPOB offers alot. You can ask Nnia Nwodo and Ohanaeze. IPOB made them instant celebrities, the Caliphate were all trembling and were calling them for meeting up and down, they were being invited to speak on restructuring agenda of theirs. IPOB agitation offered them the platform to negotiate. Instantly, the North started seeing restructuring as a better compromise than having the entire country disintegrate.
Many agitations needs spirituality, that's how you hold it all together. IPOB had chosen Judaism , what problem do you have with that? Are you a religion bigot?
IPOB don't need to tolerate or even acknowledge the views of Nigerians, only the views of Biafrans matters.

Good. Now you understand why NK insult Nigeria and Nigerian leaders, he feels that via their poor leadership and by the non feasibility of Nigeria which they have continiously used violence to force on Biafrans since 1966, they have earned his insults.

Uwazuruike was bought off. Go and ask around. You think Biafra followers are stupid, we are not. Uwazuruike returned from that prison a compromised man. He used his settlement money and started building hotels in Owerri and other places. His followers deserted him.
Buhari is disdainful, but he's no fool, and he has handlers. They must have tried to buy off NK at some point, when the court case prolonged and they couldn't find a single stain on the man.

NK insults on the North is Not anyway close to the insults Ndiigbo have received from Northerners, imagine being called a 5% in a country you are supposedly part of by a sitting Fulani president.
Those who kissed his feet did so of their own volition, NK never coerced them into it. I don't see how you could link it to corruption. NK had stayed true to his cause. Spend a year in prison and still remained true to his cause.

You exhibit lack of historical grasp of the fundamental issues triggering the Hutu-Tutsi conflict.
The Tutsi are like the Fulani of Rwanda. They were the ones who had a functional monarchical system in place, with which they ruled the Hutus in precolonial era. So as always, the Caucasian colonial administration, being masters of indirect rule, favoured the Tutsis and made them their partners in their colonial interests in Rwanda and there after, chose them to maintain their neo colonial interests after Rwanda Independence.
The Hutus though the majority, have been made to live under the Tutsi reign, just like the Hausa and their Fulani emir overlords.
The colonial powers both the Germans and Belgians who took over Rwanda after Germany lost the second world war, carefully empowered the Tutsi and positioned them to rule over the Hutus so long as the Tutsi rulling elites would continue to be subservient to the colonial masters.
The Hutus got tired of Tutsi lordship over them, and over reacted, that's the Rwandan genocide. It was the colonials who already used to working with Tutsi, that ensured Tutsi, through Kagame returned to power.

The dynamics at play In Rwanda isnt the same at Nigeria, at least as concerning Ndiigbo and rest of Nigeria. They are so opposite and so no basis for the analogy.
Rwanda is not ethnically diverse as Nigeria.

Also, the Tutsi have the backing of the imperial powers. That's how they stay on top, it wasn't a function of their ingenuity or anything you are pushing.
Yes! All Nigerian groups are Igbophobic. Nigeria as a nation pursued an Igbophobic nationalist agenda right after the war, where Ndiigbo was substituted for the British, and thereafter, presented as the common enemy of all Nigerian people.

"The war aim and (final) solution properly
speaking of the entire problem, is to
discriminate against the Igbos and in their
own interest. Such discrimination would
include above all the detachment of those
oil-rich territories in the Eastern Region,
in addition, the Igbos' freedom of
movement would be restricted, to prevent
their renewed penetration into other parts,
leaving any access to the sea to the
Igbos, is quite out of the question,
"(Federal Nigerian Minister speaking to E.
C. Schwarzenback, Swiss Review of Africa,
February 1968).

Some of us are realist. We don't do political correctness, we are unapologetically Igbotic and don't mind saying things as they are, irrespective of whose horse is gored.
Nigeria was built on Igbophobia in 1970. The Nigeria Zik fought for was built on shared hate by the people for British colonialization, but after the war, that Nigeria died, and was replaced with the current one built on Igbophobia. Igbos were presented as the common enemy of all Nigerian groups and we were used to unify all of them, as Britain finally got freed to continue her colonialism as neocolonialism.

It doesn't matter whether you buy it or not, it's simply what it is.
Seriously, Yorubas have also failed in Nigeria politics. Awolowo failed to win all federal government elections he contested for, Abiola won but never ascended.
OBJ wasn't a Yoruba candidate, they didn't contribute anything to his emergence and his ascension had nothing to do with their superior politics. OBJ was picked out of obscurity by the powers that be. Ekwueme was the man who had built alliances and bridges across the nation, but became a victim of Nigerian institutionalized Igbophobia, same fate awaits any Igbo man that continues to play the ostrich.

Well, you have a point. But I hope you know you are suggesting we start playing parochial backward politics that is more interested in tribal considerations than in what the candidates have to offer the entire nation
You are turning to a tribalist without even knowing it, that's what Nigeria does to us all. Every group is tribal that it would be fatal and suicidal for Ndiigbo not to be same. Nigeria is simply destined to fail.

If Buhari is as honest and just as you said, how come he has failed to reward Igbos like Ogbonnaya onu, who stood against Ndiigbo and backed Buhari since 2007, long before Tinubu shifted to Buhari side?
Buhari is not honest . He's just a normal politician who is only interested in barter politics, ie, give and take. To profit, you must bring something.
Sticking by GEJ, morally, was the right thing to do. He was a minority who came begging for our votes. Rationally, in a normal world, GEJ as a presidential candidate, would always Trump Buhari. Buhari was even having certificate scandal then, and history of dictatorship in addition to serving under the most corrupt military dictator in Nigerian history.

He is only a wrong choice for Ndiigbo, because Nigeria plays a tribal politics, and GEJ isn't Igbo.



The reality is that if every one surrounding you hates you, and you decide to play the ostrich, you will not be immuned from their hate. Instead, you will surely suffer,ask Ekwueme.
It's akin to Israel refusing to accept that the entire Arab nations plus Iran, surrounding them, resents them. Just because they(Isreal) want to play political correctness.
Do you think such would protect them from hate emanating from those quarters?
Ofcourse, hate begots hate. Ndiigbo had to return every hate thrown at us from those quarters with hate. That's the way you had survived so far.

Election boycott is not necessarily stupid. It's just that it's more difficult to achieve that getting involved in the political process yourself. Even Zik had once called for election boycott in the 1960s and implemented it.
It has its place. Though in this our position, I feel it's an inferior tool. We can and should do better.

hammerFC:
Judaism is a very practical religion.

They take no shit.

U do me, i will surely do u even if it takes me 1000 years, i will retaliate.

Vengeance against the enemies of the Jewish people is certainly allowed as it has positive meaning. Both in that it’s doing justice and also creating deterrence.

Unlike Christianity that have turned our people into moronic fools.

Even God got angry and destroyed creation several times. God will still destroy the world again but this time with fire.

DanielOc:
Obi1kenObi, Pazenzia.....

Please be guided with your regards towards Nnamdi KANU,

I really find it incomprehensible why the Westerners are giving their opinions purely for their interest, yet, you dilute it inside of you, wearing it as a garment of points, while things are being messed up...

Please, its best we rally round NK with support not booing his courage to stand for our sovereignty...

However, I still like the fact that what consigns us all is Paramount here...
I love y'all...

oilPUSSY:

Pazienza has no problem with Kanu as a person, just that he's not comfortable with the method.
Any person who claims to be Igbo man is one way or the other sympathetic with IPOB.
The problem is than some are critisizing the methodology and their policies due to fear of unknown.

If you see any Igbo man who is condemning Kanu and IPOB as a whole without seeing any good thing about them... A lot of things are involved,
1,..The person was not breastfed by typical igbo woman .
2, Products of away match. Promiscuous ladies that slept with non Igbos, even though they are married to Igbo husbands.
3,Those Igbos that are benefiting from the statusquo that don't care about the cries of their fellow Igbos.. Selfish politicians (thogh not all politicians )
Misguided Igbos that have been brainwashed by their non Igbo friends to embrace one Nigeria even when his tribes men are being strangled in Nigerian day by day. Such characters won't even be spared when the chips are down .That his non Igbo friend would be the ist person that will chop off his head. These ones claim to know all whereas their skulls are empty.
4, Rich Igbo Political illitrates that think that they will loose their properties if referendum is conducted. Some of them see referendum as war.
Any Igbo man who is strongly opposing IPOB without seeing anything good about them must fall in one or two of the aforementioned.
Civil war ended 48 yrs ago, but the economic war against Igbos started the same year.

Some Igbos are not even worried why they have only five states.
Nigeria is just anti Igbo. The politics we are
struggling to participate in is nothing but politics of patch patch . Our spirit left Nigeria in 1967.

Obi1kenobi:


Yes, I'm sure a woman with a moniker like "oilpussy" is best educated on what makes a "real" Igbo person.

Oh, and state creation contradicts the aims of restructuring. As it is, without the Niger Delta's oyel money, most states in Nigeria are already economically unviable. The South East is the least populated zone in Nigeria and by far the smallest in landmass. 11 states in the North are bigger than the whole SE combined, and Oyo alone is almost as big as the whole South East combined. Cross River is almost as big as Anambra, Imo, Abia and Ebonyi combined. Unless you're adding Anioma from Delta to the SE to form the 6th SE state, further dividing the 5 SE states as it is makes no sense given our call for resource control and over-dependence on Niger Delta oyel money.

This is why I say many Igbos that claim to favour Biafra really do not. Many certainly do, but for others, it's just an ego trip. Talking about leaving the "zoo" massages their egos, when they've never really thought about what it entails.

oilPUSSY:

Keep quiet and stop being mischievous in your analysis. We are talking of state creation and you are here lumping the whole zone together.
State creation is not done by landmass but by population of the peoples in that area. The same thing applicable to representatives. Lagos state is the smallest state in Nigeria by landmass but has highest representative in the house of reps today (21).
You are talking of landmass, I hope you are aware that Anambra state which is the second smallest state in Nigeria in landmass is more populated than Niger state which is the biggest state in Nig by landmass ?.
In your efforts to justify 5 states given to Igbos, you forgot that SE has almost the same population with NE.
Clap for yourself ...

oilPUSSY:

Keep quiet and stop being mischievous in your analysis. We are talking of state creation and you are here lumping the whole zone together.
State creation is not done by landmass but by population of the peoples in that area. The same thing applicable to representatives. Lagos state is the smallest state in Nigeria by landmass but has highest representative in the house of reps today (21).
You are talking of landmass, I hope you are aware that Anambra state which is the second smallest state in Nigeria in landmass is more populated than Niger state which is the biggest state in Nig by landmass ?.
In your efforts to justify 5 states given to Igbos, you forgot that SE has almost the same population with NE.
Clap for yourself ...

murphyibiam15:

you're right, state creation isn't by landmass but by population.. After all Lagos is the smallest state with the biggest population.. To me if a state needs to be created in SE it should be ETITI state which should involve places already outlined in 2014 national conference and include Orumba North/south, okigwe, isiukwuato, Afikpo north/south, umunneochi, ihime mbano,Awgu and Aniniri LGAs which cut across all 5 SE states presently

hammerFC:
Nnamdi Kanu have resurfaced, they have started visiting Igbo states and govs.

It will be much better if they fix Enugu to Onitsha Federal road or even complete the Enugu international airport.

Let us not mention second Naija Bridge.

They want to play on Igbo Christian kind heart to deceive them.

Ndi nzuzu are the only ones they decieve and we have ndi nzuzu plenty in Igbo land.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQoEa0ww308

Chavens:
My fellow Igbos! Let's invest in Igboland. Nigeria is not happy with the number of high rise cities like onitsha, Aba, and Abakaliki. They tremble at serene cities like Enugu, Owerri, Awka, Oguta. What about industrial and commercial hurbs like Nnewi, Orlu, Onitsha and Aba. We have it all. Bring back those trillions of naira investment in the north home. Use Onitsha as our own Lagos. Use Enugu as our own Abuja.

Chavens:
Let's speak with one voice. Avoid replying any imposter. Enugu is capital of Igbo land. Ebonyi state has done well in infrastructure. Anambra has recently represented Igbo land well economically. Abia has put Igbo land as the major producer and distributor of manufactured goods used throughout Nigeria. My own Imo has set a pace for education and dignity by potraying Igbo land as the best academics in Nigeria. Anioma has represented Igbo land well in human development and dignity. Obigbo has shown a spirit of united Igbo from ages by sticking to their original identity and not to Oyigbo. So my brothers we can get it right again this time. From Engr Chavens .

Osita Ikechukwu And Igbokwe Defend Fashola 2023 South West Presidency Campaign
2023 Igbo Presidency: Joe Igbokwe, Osita Okechukwu reply Fashola

October 26, 2018
Samuel Ogundipe

Some All Progressives Congress politicians from the South-East have responded to a statement by the Minister of Power, Works and Housing, Babatunde Fashola, that the 2023 presidential ticket of the ruling party would be zoned to the South-West.

Joe Igbokwe and Osita Okechukwu, both leading Igbo voices in the APC, said Mr Fashola’s comment was a wake up call that the South-East must turn out to vote for President Muhammadu Buhari in 2019.

Mr Fashola said at a town hall event in Lagos on Thursday that the people of South-West should vote for Mr Buhari in order to get the presidency back to the region.

“A vote for Buhari in 2019, means a return of power to the South-west in 2023. I am sure you will vote wisely,” Mr Fashola said per the News Agency of Nigeria.

In separate interviews Friday, they told PREMIUM TIMES that Mr Fashola’s comments should not be seen as offensive but only logical and political.

“It is okay for the minister to say what he said because this is politics,” Mr Igbokwe said. “It is now left to the Igbo to see whether they would take this seriously and compete well in 2019.”


“What the Igbo need to do now is to massively vote for the president in 2019 so that by 2023 the party would see that we have the numbers and zone the presidency to us,” Mr Igbokwe added.


Mr Okechukwu, director-general of state-owned Voice of Nigeria, said the APC would be ready to toe the path of equity and justice by zoning presidential ticket to the South-East in 2023, but warned that it would not come on a platter.

“You have to fight for it to get it. We have to show that we deserve the ticket in 2023 by voting heavily for the president at the upcoming elections,” Mr Okechukwu said.

“The APC I know would consider how the South-East has not produced president since 1999 and, therefore, zone the ticket to us on the principle of equity and natural justice,” he said.


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/292673-2023-igbo-presidency-joe-igbokwe-osita-okechukwu-reply-fashola.html