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Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 11:17am On Mar 17, 2007 |
Can you please advice us or post dossiers or parts of constitution that comments on how panels are set up and how this particular panel was set up. To buttress your point. Please I don't accept quotes from Lai Mohammad or the AC. I want quotes from the constitution. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by donnymikky(m): 11:25am On Mar 17, 2007 |
Can you please advice us or post dossiers or parts of constitution that comments on how panels are set up and how this particular panel was set up. To buttress your point. It's good you tell him otherwise he will quote the A.C version of the constitution to misinform and confuce people here |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by GNature(m): 11:25am On Mar 17, 2007 |
@McKren Sure ! As soon as I can get a hold of a copy of the constitution (do you know of a link ?) But you should understand that the executive arm cannot indict, that is the function of the judiciary. Infact, i think you know you are wrong on this, but you just don't want to admit it. INEC has no legal grounds whatsoever to disqualify Atiku. We must learn to obey the rule of law in Nigeria. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 11:31am On Mar 17, 2007 |
I am simply not sure of how a adminastrative panel of enquiry must be set up, who must set it up and who actually set this one up. However I ordinarily like to think a Judicial commision of enquiry is set up by a chief Judge but Administrative panel of enquiry by the president or state government. that does not mean I am wrong, if you tell me what section of the constitution that dwells on this I will post it here right away cos I got a copy myself. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 11:45am On Mar 17, 2007 |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by dblock(m): 11:56am On Mar 17, 2007 |
I'm still celebrating the great news |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 12:08pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
1. (1) This Constitution is supreme and its provisions shall have binding force on the authorities and persons throughout the Federal Republic of Nigeria. (2) The Federal Republic of Nigeria shall not be governed, nor shall any persons or group of persons take control of the Government of Nigeria or any part thereof, except in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution. (3) If any other law is inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution, this Constitution shall prevail, and that other law shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void. 2. (1) Nigeria is one indivisible and indissoluble sovereign state to be known by the name of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. (2) Nigeria shall be a Federation consisting of States and a Federal Capital Territory. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by dblock(m): 12:13pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
So basically Atiku should just go and consume Cow Feces |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by GNature(m): 1:05pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
@McKren Please see quote below: Source: http://www.thetimesofnigeria.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1872&Itemid=81&PHPSESSID=e1f16924491a5c766bfef4e017
As you can see, a judge concluded that the administrative panel was not as conceived by the constitution |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 1:12pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
I pleaded with you to quote the constitution and not Lai Mohammad or AC. I have even provided you a link to the constitution. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by GNature(m): 1:24pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
@McKren Don't you believe the judge's interpretation of the constitution ? Two different judges came to the same conclusion. I told you the panel was illegal. See the quote below: Source: http://www.nigerianmuse.com/articles/?u=The_landmark_judgment_and_Atikus_political_future_by_Ladi_Ibrahim.htm&PHPSESSID=63cd96cc7765cdf1b3faf46a36c4335f
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Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 2:52pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
you are still quoting Lai Ibrahim, this people distort court Judgements and I have learnt not to listen to them. The latest Judgement by Justice Babs Kuwumi was not in Atiku's favour but Lai Mohammad and co ran to the media suggesting otherwise. The Judge held that INEC had no powers to disqualify anyone but however INEC had powers to verify candidates to ensure they meet constitutional requirements. A position that has always been what INEC says, how is that a victory for Atiku?? They now went further to initiate a contempt case against IWU, do you know that 3 days ago when this case was supposed to be heard, Turaki's legal team withdrew their case and was fined by the court for wasting their time. I simply don't listen to lai Mohammad, so please come up with something better. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by FACE(m): 3:18pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
"isi a gbaa la Face bracket here" (this one confuse Face no be small). Like I said before, I am only basing my opinion on the information before me. If the qoute below is correct : Vice President Atiku Abubakar appeared the major winner in a Lagos State High Court ruling dismissing the report of the Administrative Panel of Enquiry into the Petroleum Technology Development Fund (PTDF), which had also indicted former presidential confidante and friend, Otunba Oyewole Fasawe. If the ruling stands, the vice president could legally contest next year's presidential election which President Olusegun Obasanjo from whom he is estranged had strenuously sought to stop him.----- Then INEC cannot disqualify Atiku based on an indictement which was declared null and void and non existent by a court of law. I strongly believe in following rules and the rule of law. Barring the court ruling and no other section of the constitution counteracting sec 137, I would be behind INEC but not on this occasion with the new information at hand. Another question that bugs my mind is; If someone is barred by the constitution from contesting election, how should INEC go about effecting the relevant part of the constitution ? Does the electoral Act provide an answer to that ? Should the INEC obtain a court order to that effect or should they simply omit the persons name from the list of qualified persons ? |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by GNature(m): 10:04pm On Mar 17, 2007 |
McKren, I have in no way, shape or form quoted Lai Muhammed of the AC. Ladi Ibrahim & Patricia Nwaolai (from my previous posts) are both reporters for the Times of Nigeria and Daily Trust respectively. They simply reported on the rulings made by Justice Goodluck of the Abuja High Court and Justice Akande of the Lagos High Court that the administrative panel set up by Obasanjo was flawed and unconstitutional. Source: http://www.thetimesofnigeria.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1872&Itemid=81&PHPSESSID=e1f16924491a5c766bfef4e017
These rulings were reported all over the media and has absolutely nothing to do with Lai Muhammed of the AC |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by feelgood(m): 12:19am On Mar 18, 2007 |
Can someone pls tell me what Gani Fawehinmi had to say in this matter? He is the only consistent, honest, uncompromised, straightforward and resident Nigerian lawyer I TRUST. Olisa is a loud fella and more of a media man. Gani is genuine. WHAT HAS HE SAID ON THIS MATTER PLS? |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by FACE(m): 12:31am On Mar 18, 2007 |
I have since found Gani's positions to be heavily influenced by his emotions rather than the book. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by donnymikky(m): 2:57pm On Mar 18, 2007 |
winner oh oh oh winner winner oh oh oh winner INEC you don winn oh winner Pata Pata you go win for ever winner, INEC is following the constitution and not some people masquerading themselves as the interprete of the constitution |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by Larufa(m): 7:32pm On Mar 18, 2007 |
Atiku disqualification is illegal and unconstitutional. INEC says it is interpreting the Constitution. It has no powers to do so, only a court of law, with proper jurisdiction can do so. It says it will respect the rulings of the court. That is sophistry. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by azorjiu(m): 7:57pm On Mar 19, 2007 |
Some guys are talking rubbish here. The Tribunal of Inquiry Act empowers the president, Olusegun Obasanjo Aremu, to appoint El Rufai, Oby et al as members of the pannel. Any doubt? Then read http://www.nigeria-law.org/Tribunals%20of%20Inquiry%20Act.htm Atiku stands unqualified for election come April 2007. Nothing will happen afterwards. The heavens will not fall. I wish they could make me INEC chair for a day. I will usurp the executive, judiciary, legislative, even the police functions. I would re-indict, arrest, prosecute and jail Atiku. I'm not very sure of what I would do to Obj though. Maybe a caution would do. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 8:36pm On Mar 19, 2007 |
Thanks arzorji for that link I have said it before, if there is any tyrant or dictator I know it is Atiku. Is it not worrysome that this guy as VP is able to control the media to lie against the Nigerian State, FG and the constitution. If such a man becomes President God knows how he will control and manipulate our lives. He is not qualified simple, if the heavens will fall let it fall. I think we are trying too hard to protect this so called nascent democracy and that is why we are not growing. Let Atiku and AC do their worst lets see. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by dblock(m): 10:19pm On Mar 19, 2007 |
Democracy is just a word, if it doesn't benefit the people or the economy. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by GNature(m): 10:55am On Mar 20, 2007 |
Another Judge (3rd) rules on Obasanjo's administrative panel Court quashes FG’s white paper on indicted politicians Tuesday, March 20, 2007 Sunnews Online The Federal High Court in Kaduna has quashed the Federal Government’s white paper on the administrative panel of inquiry on alleged corrupt practices by some public officers and other persons. The court also declared the invitation of those allegedly indicted by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) and the administrative panel of inquiry headed by Professor Ignatius Ayua through a newspaper as a nullity. Delivering judgment in three separate cases instituted against the Federal Government, the EFCC, chairman of the administrative panel of inquiry, the Attorney General of the Federation, the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) and President Olusegun Obasanjo, Justice Abdullahi Liman also declared that Obasanjo acted in excess of his powers by enthroning the administrative panel of inquiry to look into cases concerning state public officers. Read more on this here: http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2007/mar/20/national-20-03-2007-01.htm |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by GNature(m): 11:05am On Mar 20, 2007 |
Like I have been saying, the president cannot just put people together without the involvement of the judiciary and proclaim it as an administrative panel as enshrined in the constitution. OBJ has the power to form an administrative panel, but he must constitute it in accordance with the law, not as he pleases. Three different judges, 1 northerner, 1 yoruba and another southern judge have all ruled that the way Obasanjo constituted this panel is unconstitutional. Go back and read my previous posts. I said this even before I researched the verdicts by these judges. Obasanjo cannot single handedly put a panel together with his ministers and the like as members, and expect to use its findings to indict people. That is just impossible. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by Mariory(m): 11:45am On Mar 20, 2007 |
GNature: Isn't that just typical. non of the other papers carried the quote in red. Did the sun make that up? http://www.vanguardngr.com/articles/2002/cover/march07/20032007/f220032007.html http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article24 http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200703192256065 And to preempt the atiku fan boys, Atiku was not a party in the case. Therefore the indictment charges against him still stand. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 11:54am On Mar 20, 2007 |
Though this latest pronouncement will still be appealed by the Federal Government, Atiku fans must note that the Judge was only saying it is not the duty of FG to look into State affairs (whether thats true or not) it does not affect Atiku cos his case is federal. Besides that he can not benefit from a case he is not party to. If FG appeals this latest ruling, let no one try to bully INEC because INEC has to stay action until the case is finalised. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by McKren(m): 12:05pm On Mar 20, 2007 |
THE BEAUTY OF THIS WHOLE DRAMA IS THAT WE ARE HAVING TO RESOLVE OUR ISSUES IN THE COURTS. THAT IS VERY COMMENDABLE BOTH TO PDP AND THE OPPOSITION. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by GNature(m): 3:11pm On Mar 20, 2007 |
Actually, the beauty of the whole drama is that everytime the issue of administrative panel is brought up, the courts shoot it down. |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by dblock(m): 8:20am On Mar 22, 2007 |
Actually the beauty of the whole drama is that Atiku is at the receiving end I better go buy some fireworks |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by BillGatesFan(m): 8:49am On Mar 22, 2007 |
Somebody said that yaradua is a member of the ogboni confrater, what is the meaning of that, till now he has not been able to explain to the house, and to tell the house where he got that information from, and proves,is ogboni confrater same as ROF? Atiku deserve what happens to him, next time he should learn to be a loyal and humble servant to his master and maker. How can Okro outgrows he who plant it? |
Re: Inec Finally Disqualified Atiku : Your Honest Opinion by topisdo: 2:36pm On Mar 29, 2007 |
Let me make this illusration. I stole 20 naira and my brother descides to tell daddy because we were at loggerheads. He might have stolen 100 naira too but the fact remains that i stole 20 naira and must be punished. |
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