Even on the face of terror, PMB during a meeting with Donald Trump said that these herders do not carry GUNs but sticks and sometimes knives. This has raised several questions like;

1. What has he done so far
2. Why was he in a haste to proscribe unarmed IPOB terrorists.
3. The guns these herders carry, where are they from
4. Why did he appoint a natural liar from birth his information minister

Why proscribe them

The CBN Abuja is just reported gutted and armed Herdsmen everywhere is all a case of Dementia, Cover-ups and Anarchy in "Process".

he is waiting for Gaddafi to resurrect before

awa:
Why proscribe them

Then why Proscribe IPOB

veeberry:
Even on the face of terror, PMB during a meeting with Donald Trump said that these herders do not carry GUNs but sticks and sometimes knives. This has raised several questions like;

1. What has he done so far
2. Why was he in a haste to proscribe unarmed IPOB terrorists.
3. The guns these herders carry, where are they from
4. Why did he appoint a natural liar from birth his information minister

Buhari is a bigot and proof is the double standard he showed in the way he treated IPOB and the on going Herdsmen crises.

IPOB did not take up arms nor did they kill anybody. They were just protesting. But Buhari felt that this was enough to send troops after them and to go to court to tag them a terrorist group.

But here are the Herdsmen, armed and dangerous, slaughtering and killing people all across the middle belt.

What did Buhari do? He urges peace, encourages farmers and Herdsmen to come together, talks about ranches and cattle colonies, declared operation Cat Race that achieved nothing, says that the killers are Gaddafi fighters from Libya and goes to America to defend his herdsmen brothers that they don't carry AK47.

The truth is that IPOB are not Buhari's people, so he has no problem sending the military after them just because they said they want Biafra

But when it comes to killer Herdsmen, Buhari will do everything he can to defend and protect them because they are his people.

The man is just a bigot

awa:
Why proscribe them

No doubt you are a herder

veeberry:
Even on the face of terror, PMB during a meeting with Donald Trump said that these herders do not carry GUNs but sticks and sometimes knives. This has raised several questions like;

1. What has he done so far
2. Why was he in a haste to proscribe unarmed IPOB terrorists.
3. The guns these herders carry, where are they from
4. Why did he appoint a natural liar from birth his information minister

Not surprised that they said some of our youths are intellectually lazy.

Were IPOB really unarmed; are stones, cutlasses and sticks they wielding at the law enforcement agents toys?

IPOB and Boko Haram fall within the same category as organised insurgents threatening the corporate existence of the country; both want to carve out a piece of Nigerian territory for themselves at the expense of the Nigerian State; there is absolutely no comparison between them in terms of their objectives, structure and modus operandi with the so called 'herdsmen' who are essentially a bunch of loosely organised bunch of criminals without any political ambition other than banditry.
The latter therefore pose a completely different security challenge requiring an equally different approach - how is it possible to proscribe a group of bandits?
Herdsmen do not go about armed with AK47 or guns while herding their cattle; however, renegade groups among them and other bandits who rob and kill ppl do.
Some ppl are going about with false narrative and baseless arguments.

ItsMeAboki:


Not surprised that they said some of our youths are intellectually lazy.

Were IPOB really unarmed; are stones, cutlasses and sticks they wielding at the law enforcement agents toys?

IPOB and Boko Haram fall within the same category as organised insurgents threatening the corporate existence of the country; both want to carve out a piece of Nigerian territory for themselves at the expense of the Nigerian State; there is absolutely no comparison between them in terms of their objectives, structure and modus operandi with the so called 'herdsmen' who are essentially a bunch of loosely organised bunch of criminals without any political ambition other than banditry.
The latter therefore pose a completely different security challenge requiring an equally different approach - how is it possible to proscribe a group of bandits?
Herdsmen do not go about armed with AK47 or guns while herding their cattle; however, renegade groups among them and other bandits who rob and kill ppl do.


Some ppl are going about with false narrative and baseless arguments.

And the herdsmen? They carry sticks and not AK 47. May they visit you if you know but hid the truth. Rubbish!!!

He is waiting for Helicopters from America .hihihi

veeberry:


And the herdsmen? They carry sticks and not AK 47. May they visit you if you know but hid the truth. Rubbish!!!

Pls show me a picture or video of them herding their cattle and carrying AK47 - not the foreign herdsmen the bised media is touting.

ItsMeAboki:


Pls show me a picture or video of them herding their cattle and carrying AK47 - not the foreign herdsmen the bised media is touting.

What has Ghadafi fighters got to do with Nigeria? Was Nigeria part of Ghaddafi killers? What reasons do they have to butcher Nigerians the way they do?

And our so-called President,
what has he done to curb the killings?

Lets always say the truth, it pays.

ItsMeAboki:


Not surprised that they said some of our youths are intellectually lazy.

Were IPOB really unarmed; are stones, cutlasses and sticks they wielding at the law enforcement agents toys?

IPOB and Boko Haram fall within the same category as organised insurgents threatening the corporate existence of the country; both want to carve out a piece of Nigerian territory for themselves at the expense of the Nigerian State; there is absolutely no comparison between them in terms of their objectives, structure and modus operandi with the so called 'herdsmen' who are essentially a bunch of loosely organised bunch of criminals without any political ambition other than banditry.
The latter therefore pose a completely different security challenge requiring an equally different approach - how is it possible to proscribe a group of bandits?
Herdsmen do not go about armed with AK47 or guns while herding their cattle; however, renegade groups among them and other bandits who rob and kill ppl do.
Some ppl are going about with false narrative and baseless arguments.

You are funny. Let me ask you one simple question for you to see how stupid you sound. Can you give me one instance of violence or any violent act by IPOB before Python dance? Every day you see pictures and read stories of Herdsmen killing people. Tell me one act of violence by IPOB before Python dance, or did IPOB suddenly become violent with Python dance? What we have had is the violence of security personnel shooting and Killing unarmed IPOB.

Stones and sticks makes IPOB armed? What terrorist organisation have you heard that uses stones and sticks? How many times have you heard that a terrorist organisation uses sticks and stones? Is Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, ISIS etc using sticks and stones? What is the comparison of sticks and stones to AK47?

You said that IPOB wants to carve out a territory for its self, yes that's right, and they have the right under international law to agitate for a separate state away from Nigeria. So what Is the problem? Did IPOB use violence?

What is quite laughable is this useless attempt to protect the Herdsmen killers by saying that Herdsmen do not go about with AK47 but that certain groups follow them about to kill people. So It is just by chance that where ever the Herdsmen move in with their Cattle, a killer militia follows them to drive out the host community, yet the Herdsmen have nothing to do with it? Are we kids?


But the biggest question is, why would you go to proscribe IPOB as a terrorist organisation even though IPOB never killed anyone or took up guns?

Yet you try to find every reason under the sun not to proscribe the armed Herdsmen militia killing people on a daily basis.

gidgiddy:


You are funny. Let me ask you one simple question for you to see how stupid you sound. Can you give me one instance of violence or any violent act by IPOB before Python dance? Every day you see pictures and read stories of Herdsmen killing people. Tell me one act of violence by IPOB before Python dance, or did IPOB suddenly become violent with Python dance? What we have had is the violence of security personnel shooting and Killing unarmed IPOB.

Stones and sticks makes IPOB armed? What terrorist organisation have you heard that uses stones and sticks? How many times have you heard that a terrorist organisation uses sticks and stones? Is Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, ISIS etc using sticks and stones? What is the comparison of sticks and stones to AK47?

You said that IPOB wants to carve out a territory for its self, yes that's right, and they have the right under international law to agitate for a separate state away from Nigeria. So what Is the problem? Did IPOB use violence?

What is quite laughable is this useless attempt to protect the Herdsmen killers by saying that Herdsmen do not go about with AK47 but that certain groups follow them about to kill people. So It is just by chance that where ever the Herdsmen move in with their Cattle, a killer militia follows them to drive out the host community, yet the Herdsmen have nothing to do with it? Are we kids?


But the biggest question is, why would you go to proscribe IPOB as a terrorist organisation even though IPOB never killed anyone or took up guns?

Yet you try to find every reason under the sun not to proscribe the armed Herdsmen militia killing people on a daily basis.

Have you ever heard of pre-preemptive strike? - you can ask the Americans.

Anywhere in the world, the threat of violence is sufficient grounds to take action against that threat.

The internet is littered with sufficient evidence where Kanu/IPOB was soliciting for arms and threatening Nigeria and Nigerians in general.

Cutlasses, stones and sticks are effective weapons that maim and kill and freely used by IPOB against law enforcement agents in the course of carrying out their legitimate duty of keeping law and order; such weapons were also used by IPOB to kill unarmed innocent travellers of northern extraction - video evidence are still available in case you have forgotten.

No group has the right to stop the Nigerian army from carrying out it routine military exercise such as python dance just because it deems so.

IPOB is free to pursue its right to self determination but it must do this by following the right channels and proceedure - not by taking the law into its hands as it did.

ItsMeAboki:


Have you ever heard of pre-preemptive strike? - you can ask the Americans.

Anywhere in the world, the threat of violence is sufficient grounds to take action against that threat.

The internet is littered with sufficient evidence where Kanu/IPOB was soliciting for arms and threatening Nigeria and Nigerians in general.

Cutlasses, stones and sticks are effective weapons that maim and kill and freely used by IPOB against law enforcement agents in the course of carrying out their legitimate duty of keeping law and order; such weapons were also used by IPOB to kill unarmed innocent travellers of northern extraction - video evidence are still available in case you have forgotten.

No group has the right to stop the Nigerian army from carrying out it routine military exercise such as python dance just because it deems so.

IPOB is free to pursue its right to self determination but it must do this by following the right channels and proceedure - not by taking the law into its hands as it did.

You are just talking nonsense. I asked you, What was the violence that IPOB was perpetrating before operation Python dance? You can't answer

So what sort of Government will be launching pre-emptive strike against an organisation not known to use violence? Pre-emptive strike is only when you have credible intelligence of imminent danger, otherwise, anyone in power can use that sentiment to deploy the military against those he doesnt like. Has the Government since come out to tell us of any such information they had? No.

You talk about soliciting arms. That is not illegal, the firearms act of Nigeria even allows adults to hold certain types of guns such as double barrel guns, under license. The solicitation its self is not a crime, what is is a crime is what you do with the guns solicited.

All over the world, the threat of violence must go beyond words. You don't start rolling out the Army and attacking people because someone talked. We all have right of free speech and if anyone makes verbal threat, the Police should investigate and charge where appropriate. But to say that people should be attacked for talking is nonsense.The Army was not created to go after people for talking.

Beyond Nnamdi Kanu talking, what credible proof was there that the public was in danger from IPOB? None

Was there any violence IPOB perpetrated to warrant military deployment? None

Has the military got any constitutional right to fight crime in Nigeria? They don't, thats the job of the Police. There is nothing like 'routine military exercise' in populated civilian area. In civilised countries, the only time you see the military come out of their Barak is if there is war. The job of fighting crime and maintaining law and order is the job of the Police. Operation Python dance was illegal.

As for this story that IPOB blocked the road to the Army and attacked the Army with sticks stones, only a foolish person will believe it.

What the Army wants us all to believe is that they were passing by, heavily armed with machine guns and Tanks, but unarmed IPOB decided to block the road and attack heavily armed Soldiers with sticks and stones?

What sort of person will believe this crazy story?

How can Satan cast out Satan?

gidgiddy:


You are just talking nonsense. I asked you, What was the violence that IPOB was perpetrating before operation Python dance? You can't answer

So what sort of Government will be launching pre-emptive strike against an organisation not known to use violence? Pre-emptive strike is only when you have credible intelligence of imminent danger, otherwise, anyone in power can use that sentiment to deploy the military against those he doesnt like. Has the Government since come out to tell us of any such information they had? No.

You talk about soliciting arms. That is not illegal, the firearms act of Nigeria even allows adults to hold certain types of guns such as double barrel guns, under license. The solicitation its self is not a crime, what is is a crime is what you do with the guns solicited.

All over the world, the threat of violence must go beyond words. You don't start rolling out the Army and attacking people because someone talked. We all have right of free speech and if anyone makes verbal threat, the Police should investigate and charge where appropriate. But to say that people should be attacked for talking is nonsense.The Army was not created to go after people for talking.

Beyond Nnamdi Kanu talking, what credible proof was there that the public was in danger from IPOB? None

Was there any violence IPOB perpetrated to warrant military deployment? None

Has the military got any constitutional right to fight crime in Nigeria? They don't, thats the job of the Police. There is nothing like 'routine military exercise' in populated civilian area. In civilised countries, the only time you see the military come out of their Barak is if there is war. The job of fighting crime and maintaining law and order is the job of the Police. Operation Python dance was illegal.

As for this story that IPOB blocked the road to the Army and attacked the Army with sticks stones, only a foolish person will believe it.

What the Army wants us all to believe is that they were passing by, heavily armed with machine guns and Tanks, but unarmed IPOB decided to block the road and attack heavily armed Soldiers with sticks and stones?

What sort of person will believe this crazy story?

God bless you. Truth is not meant to be covered.

gidgiddy:


You are just talking nonsense. I asked you, What was the violence that IPOB was perpetrating before operation Python dance? You can't answer

So what sort of Government will be launching pre-emptive strike against an organisation not known to use violence? Pre-emptive strike is only when you have credible intelligence of imminent danger, otherwise, anyone in power can use that sentiment to deploy the military against those he doesnt like. Has the Government since come out to tell us of any such information they had? No.

You talk about soliciting arms. That is not illegal, the firearms act of Nigeria even allows adults to hold certain types of guns such as double barrel guns, under license. The solicitation its self is not a crime, what is is a crime is what you do with the guns solicited.

All over the world, the threat of violence must go beyond words. You don't start rolling out the Army and attacking people because someone talked. We all have right of free speech and if anyone makes verbal threat, the Police should investigate and charge where appropriate. But to say that people should be attacked for talking is nonsense.The Army was not created to go after people for talking.

Beyond Nnamdi Kanu talking, what credible proof was there that the public was in danger from IPOB? None

Was there any violence IPOB perpetrated to warrant military deployment? None

Has the military got any constitutional right to fight crime in Nigeria? They don't, thats the job of the Police. There is nothing like 'routine military exercise' in populated civilian area. In civilised countries, the only time you see the military come out of their Barak is if there is war. The job of fighting crime and maintaining law and order is the job of the Police. Operation Python dance was illegal.

As for this story that IPOB blocked the road to the Army and attacked the Army with sticks stones, only a foolish person will believe it.

What the Army wants us all to believe is that they were passing by, heavily armed with machine guns and Tanks, but unarmed IPOB decided to block the road and attack heavily armed Soldiers with sticks and stones?

What sort of person will believe this crazy story?

My friend, you do not threaten the corporate existence of any nation and expect to be treated with kids gloves; we are talking of treason here.

Guantanamo bay prisoners were fighting and defending their territories in their own countries, without directly fighting America but were deemed a threat and subsequently, traced forcibly kidnapped, shipped to America and imprisoned without trial till date - your human right is suspended once you start tangling with treason or threatening a state.

You don't have be violent to threaten a state; though IPOB cannot claim to have been non violent just because they said so; because they were openly intimidating their own ppl, collecting tax/protection money, attacking law enforcement agents and killing northerners - these are all verifiable, so don't even try to deny them.

ItsMeAboki:


My friend, you do not threaten the corporate existence of any nation and expect to be treated with kids gloves; we are talking of treason here.

Guantanamo bay prisoners were fighting and defending their territories in their own countries, without directly fighting America but were deemed a threat and subsequently, traced forcibly kidnapped, shipped to America and imprisoned without trial till date - your human right is suspended once you start tangling with treason or threatening a state.

You don't have be violent to threaten a state; though IPOB cannot claim to have been non violent just because they said so; because they were openly intimidating their own ppl, collecting tax/protection money, attacking law enforcement agents and killing northerners - these are all verifiable, so don't even try to deny them.

Show one single proof that IPOB has killed anyone not to talk of killing a Notherner. The pictures below are people the Herdsmen killed in Benue. Show one evidence that IPOB killed anyone.

Tell me how an unarmed organization can threaten the sovereignty of a country? How is this possible?

The USA and the EU have both come out to say that IPOB is not a terrorist organisation. They know that for an organisation to be a terrorist organisation, they must have a history of violence. That an organisation clashed with the Army or police is not enough to make them a terrorist organisation. Where is the history of violence that IPOB has? None. That's why IPOB is freely protesting in London and Washington and nobody is troubling them. It is the use of "organised violence" that makes group a terrorist group, not intimidation or illegal taxation or clashing with the authorities.

gidgiddy:


Show one single proof that IPOB has killed anyone not to talk of killing a Notherner. The pictures below are people the Herdsmen killed in Benue. Show one evidence that IPOB killed anyone.

Tell me how an unarmed organization can threaten the sovereignty of a country? How is this possible?

The USA and the EU have both come out to say that IPOB is not a terrorist organisation. They know that for an organisation to be a terrorist organisation, they must have a history of violence. That an organisation clashed with the Army or police is not enough to make them a terrorist organisation. Where is the history of violence that IPOB has? None. That's why IPOB is freely protesting in London and Washington and nobody is troubling them. It is the use of "organised violence" that makes group a terrorist group, not intimidation or illegal taxation or clashing with the authorities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZPm26r1Bc
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/04/10/ipob-supporters-kill-five-hausa-fulani-men-dss/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qljVmZmSB_M
https://www.naija.ng/846253-shocking-find-many-northern-businessmen-died-ipobmilitary-clash-onitsha.html#846253

ItsMeAboki:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZPm26r1Bc
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2016/04/10/ipob-supporters-kill-five-hausa-fulani-men-dss/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qljVmZmSB_M
https://www.naija.ng/846253-shocking-find-many-northern-businessmen-died-ipobmilitary-clash-onitsha.html#846253

I said show us one proof that IPOB has ever killed anyone. You post a video of some boys searching for Northerners? Let's just assume that those boys were IPOB members, when has 'searching' become the same as 'killing'? I'm not after who was searching for who, I'm after who killed who.

And the second report was even more laughable. And undated report with no source or link or picture to verify it? Any body can write something like that and post it on the internet. How do you think that IPOB killed 15 Northern business men and we saw no bodies and no Newspaper carried the news?


Show us proof that IPOB killed anybody with pictures, video, police report or a reputable website report.

the problem is,which herdsmen....??

if you say criminal herdsmen then okay..but all herdsmen....??....thats ridiculous.........

gidgiddy:


I said show us one proof that IPOB has ever killed anyone. You post a video of some boys searching for Northerners? Let's just assume that those boys were IPOB members, when has 'searching' become the same as 'killing'? I'm not after who was searching for who, I'm after who killed who.

And the second report was even more laughable. And undated report with no source or link or picture to verify it? Any body can write something like that and post it on the internet. How do you think that IPOB killed 15 Northern business men and we saw no bodies and no Newspaper carried the news?


Show us proof that IPOB killed anybody with pictures, video, police report or a reputable website report.

Not surprised at all; we know that IPOB are pathological liars with a penchant for denying and distorting facts that run counter to their narratives - keep denying for all I care.