hello nairalanders, why is it now a common stuff for everyone to be involved in d programming world....is. it dat there are thousands of average programmers out there? or we are just having squad of youths trying to get a skill

wiconse:
hello nairalanders, why is it now a common stuff for everyone to be involved in d programming world....is. it dat there are thousands of average programmers out there? or we are just having squad of youths trying to get a skill

The problem is that there are not enough programmer's
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Imagine what we could create.. If all your cool friends knew how to code in a bad ass way.. We wouldn't have issues creating wonderful softwares cos labour could be easily divided...

I alone have had so many ideas but labour remains an issue and I'm even average

ifex370:


The problem is that there are not enough programmer's
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Imagine what we could create.. If all your cool friends knew how to code in a bad ass way.. We wouldn't have issues creating wonderful softwares cos labour could be easily divided...

I alone have had so many ideas but labour remains an issue and I'm even average

so dat means everyone should be average

wiconse:

so dat means everyone should be average

Hell no... I'm average and it pains me.. I need to get better... Programming is a skill people should have..
Although not everyone ends up being a programmer

wiconse:
hello nairalanders, why is it now a common stuff for everyone to be involved in d programming world....is. it dat there are thousands of average programmers out there? or we are just having squad of youths trying to get a skill

Those you think are above average were once below average. They were not born bad ass programmers. Many had to learn on their own.

mostly in Nigeria we are just starting to embrace programming I'm still learning embedded programming application of programming skills to microcontrollers

programming LANGUAGE is just like a language. we can choose to know them well or a little.

Your post sounds as if you are pained having more people take up programming. Common, programming is not a secret service for a selected few. Every youth with a laptop who finds interest in programming whether for passion or skill sake should be encouraged. You shouldn't feel threatened.

denkyw:
Your post sounds as if you are pained having more people take up programming. Common, programming is not a secret service for a selected few. Every youth with a laptop who finds interest in programming whether for passion or skill sake should be encouraged. You shouldn't feel threatened.

its not about me being threatened but about the fact that most programmers are average

wiconse:

its not about me being threatened but about the fact that most programmers are average

And what do you mean by most programmers are average. Everyone started as a novice including zuck so encourage any average programmer you see to become better and stop feeling threatened

wiconse:
hello nairalanders, why is it now a common stuff for everyone to be involved in d programming world....is. it dat there are thousands of average programmers out there? or we are just having squad of youths trying to get a skill

In 20years from now, I suspect elementary programming skills will be required for every white-collar job.

However, the world will not be over saturated with "Software Engineers" by that time.

In the 20th century, there was Oil boom in the whole world, that industry employed millions, and till date. However, are there saturations of discipline experts there in that market today? No.

.... knowing how to use a programming language and libraries or toolkits doesn't make you a Software Engineer as most people think;

Problem solving skills (Data structures and Algorithms), understanding the computer architecture, telling me exactly what's likely happening from your code to the hardware does make you one.

And yeah, don't panic, every 6months, I suspect 50% of those who signed up will give up. Another 6months will see a further 50% of the remaining, and so on.

And it takes time. Building fancy stuff with some toolkits doesn't make a Software Engineer.

The aforementioned skills, time and experience in solving difficult problems do.

WhiZTiM:


In 20years from now, I suspect elementary programming skills will be required for every white-collar job.

However, the world will not be over saturated with "Software Engineers" by that time.

In the 20th century, the was Oil boom in the whole world, that industry employed millions, and till date. However, are there saturations of discipline experts there in that market today? No.

.... knowing how to use a programming language and libraries or toolkits doesn't make you a Software Engineer as most people think;

Problem solving skills (Data structures and Algorithms), understanding the computer architecture, telling me exactly what's likely happening from your code to the hardware does make you one.

And yeah, don't panic, every 6months, I suspect 50% of those who signed up will give up. Another 6months will see a further 50% of the remaining, and so on.

And it takes time. Building fancy stuff with some toolkits doesn't make a Software Engineer.

The aforementioned skills, time and experience in solving difficult problems do.

DAT means computer science as a course/degree is still needed in our country

wiconse:

its not about me being threatened but about the fact that most programmers are average

So if most programmers are average and you are supposedly not why is that pulling your hair for no reason.
Use your above average skill and take up all their jobs.
Mtseww!!!!

wiconse:


DAT means computer science as a course/degree is still needed in our country

It still is, but not to extents of instantly making you are Software Dev; Understand that there are many different people without the necessary background nor drive to push further, Studying Computer science will still be beneficial to such people, no matter how crappy our system is.

So yes, Nigerian education sucks, but it's still a very good course to study;

vankaid:

So if most programmers are average and you are supposedly not why is that pulling your hair for no reason.
Use your above average skill and take up all their jobs.
Mtseww!!!!

Umm... Did someone rig your lunch with too much pepper?

I have no idea about what the OP was trying to pass with that post of his;
But in terms of mediocrity, I think that's somewhat true. I suspect, out of every set of relatively good Nigerian programmer you see, only a very small percentage can actually solve unfamiliar problems efficiently;

ifex370:

Hell no... I'm average and it pains me.. I need to get better... Programming is a skill people should have..
Although not everyone ends up being a programmer

Keep working hard, You will be at the top percentile in some years from now.

It's hard, that's the truth, everyone that flashes easiness or smartness by telling you how he learned so, so and so, in a very short time (without a prior strong foundation in Maths or some logical stuff) is a bloody lair, we all Google and Stackoverflow alot of things until we become domain experts, where the need for that is next to none. But it takes years.

Don't think of becoming a rockstar programmer in 4years, cause that wouldn't happen.
Target 1year+ to gain necessary skills to be employable, or gain sufficient skills to create cool things;
Target 5-10years of solving difficult problems (also including debuggin/troubleshooting, leading a team, firefighting broken code, scaling) before calling yourself a rockstar;

WhiZTiM:


Umm... Did someone rig your lunch with too much pepper?

I have no idea about what the OP was trying to pass with that post of his;
But in terms of mediocrity, I think that's somewhat true. I suspect, out of every set of relatively good Nigerian programmer you see, only a very small percentage can actually solve unfamiliar problems efficiently;

So should we then fry beans or what?

You guys should just go and sit your notice-me ass somewhere else. Funny thing here is that when you look deeper, its actually noobs that come up with this kind of self glorifying threads.

WhiZTiM:


Keep working hard, You will be at the top percentile in some years from now.

It's hard, that's the truth, everyone that flashes easiness or smartness by telling you how he learned so, so and so, in a very short time (without a prior strong foundation in Maths or some logical stuff) is a bloody lair, we all Google and Stackoverflow alot of things until we become domain experts, where the need for that is next to none. But it takes years.

Don't think of becoming a rockstar programmer in 4years, cause that wouldn't happen.
Target 1year+ to gain necessary skills to be employable, or gain sufficient skills to create cool things;
Target 5-10years of solving difficult problems (also including debuggin/troubleshooting, leading a team, firefighting broken code, scaling) before calling yourself a rockstar;

I'll start this msg for the future... Thanks boss

vankaid:


So should we then fry beans or what?

You guys should just go and sit your notice-me ass somewhere else. Funny thing here is that when you look deeper, its actually noobs that come up with this kind of self glorifying threads.

No sir, Fried Potato is often tastier;

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I don't see anyone doing "notice-me" here. At least the OP wasn't doing that in my opinion; I have had to ask that question multiple times, that's why I am on the OP's side.

I grew up in the North Eastern part of Nigeria, where I learned most of my programming skills, and we know NE Nigeria is certainly not a region of many "rockstar programmers" ....
Maybe you grew-up elsewhere amongst "rockstars", I don't know... But please, be kind, help us out here, share your thoughts....

Reread the OP's post, and please provide helpful insights. At least from your "wealth of experience" in 'handling' projects of large coys..

In the future programming will become mediocre..

The number of people learning to code is rising not falling..Although the world still need programmers

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I disagree with the OP, the truth is that there are not enough programmers in the world and big companies need people with skills, Nigeria is far behind bro..... In Silicon Valley, companies are looking for people with adequate skills and there are in short supply.....u think coding is easy?
Let's say you introduce coding to 100 people, all of them are now programmers after a few days of training....i can bet that only 3-5 of those 100 will end up as developers in their career.... just because I know how to code doesn't make me a programmer (developer or engineer).... for example, I can code Java and C++ but you won't see in my CV because I haven't done anything with them, I just have surface knowledge, this is the case in all this code awareness and empowerment programs...i know C++ and Java but I am not readily employable in the mentioned skills ....companies want the statistics, if there is a chance 3-5 developers come out of every 100 trained, it's better than not having any..... everyone should know how to code, but not everyone can be developers

Programming is one of the few practical skills that the average comp science, comp engineering, software engineering and elect-elect grad can relate to and practice with small resource A.K.A. laptop.

CodeTemplar:
Programming is one of the few practical skills that the average comp science, comp engineering, software engineering and elect-elect grad can relate to and practice with small resource A.K.A. laptop.

ok so everyone is entitled to learn