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Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:25am On Jun 23, 2018
Russia’s S-400 missile system has never been used in combat. Yet it’s already provoking fights around the world, as Russia searches for buyers in markets long dominated by American weapons makers. China’s neighbors are fretting as the country bolsters its military reach with Russian hardware, encouraging India to follow suit. Tensions between rivals Saudi Arabia and Qatar have ratcheted up as both countries negotiate with Moscow on possible deals, while the recent decision by NATO member Turkey to buy the S-400 has drawn threats of U.S. sanctions.

With Algeria, Belarus, Iran, and Vietnam also likely customers, Russia could generate $30 billion in sales over the next 12 to 15 years, according to the Moscow Defense Brief, a leading publisher of Russian military information. That’s all part of President Vladimir Putin’s plan to use the Russian weapons industry not only to earn billions of dollars but also to drive a wedge between the U.S. and some of its key allies. “The S-400 has both commercial and geopolitical dimensions,” says Vladimir Frolov, a former Russian diplomat who’s now a foreign policy analyst in Moscow. “It creates an opening for Russian influence for years to come.”

The Russian weapon has a few advantages over the only other comparable missile system on the market, the MIM-104 Patriot, made by U.S. company Raytheon Co., according to defense research group Jane’s by IHS Markit Ltd. Both are surface-to-air systems designed to shoot down aircraft and ballistic missiles. But the S-400 has a longer range than the Patriot, 250 kilometers (155 miles) vs. 160 kilometers. An upgrade coming later this year is expected to stretch the S-400’s range to 400 kilometers. It also has a more powerful radar, can destroy targets moving twice as fast, and is quicker to set up. While both systems are mounted on trucks, the S-400 can be ready for action in five minutes, compared with an hour for a Patriot battery. The S-400 is also slightly cheaper than the Patriot, on a per-battery basis.

The S-500, an advanced version comparable to the U.S. Thaad anti-ballistic-missile system that’s capable of downing hypersonic cruise missiles, is expected to enter production by 2022. The S-400 is manufactured by the state-run company Almaz-Antey, which has been sanctioned by the U.S. over Russia’s military support for separatists in eastern Ukraine. Despite that, Almaz-Antey is opening two sites elsewhere in Russia to supplement its Moscow plant. The Russians don’t shy away from talking up the S-400 to potential buyers. It “has no equal,” says state arms trader Rosoboronexport’s spokesman Vyacheslav Davidenko. “Russian air-defense systems don’t allow anyone to attack without paying a price.”

The Patriot has superior anti-ballistic-missile capability, says Omar Lamrani, senior military analyst at Stratfor Enterprises LLC, a Texas consultant. It can also be integrated into other U.S.-made missile-defense systems, increasing its effectiveness. The Patriot has a long and successful track record on the battlefield, having come to fame during the 1991 Gulf War. But its performance recently has come under scrutiny. In March video footage appeared to show a failed Patriot launch as Saudi Arabia intercepted a barrage of rockets fired by Yemen’s Houthi rebels. One missile did an abrupt U-turn and crashed into the ground in the Saudi capital, and another one exploded midair. It’s unclear whether the Patriots malfunctioned or the Saudi crew failed to operate them properly. Whatever the cause, it hasn’t stopped Romania, Poland, and Sweden from pursuing plans to buy them. Raytheon declined to comment on the misfire footage, and says that the Patriot’s “performance in testing scenarios and in combat speaks for itself.”
Russia has a history of producing strong air-defense systems, dating to the Cold War, when it needed to counter NATO’s air forces. In the early 1990s the U.S. paid Boris Yeltsin’s cash-strapped government $120 million for an air-defense launch complex to study the technology. Now the U.S. faces a growing threat from the sale of Russian advanced weaponry to its strategic rivals and erstwhile allies.
In 2014, China signed a $1.9 billion deal to buy 32 S-400 launchers, each equipped with four missiles, half of which were delivered last year, the Moscow Defense Brief says. New contracts with China may be in the pipeline, it adds; these acquisitions will allow the country to threaten aircraft in Taiwan, which Beijing regards as a rebel province, as well as challenge Japan and neighbors in Southeast Asia for control of the skies in disputed areas. “It poses big challenges for the U.S., Taiwan—which it is obliged to protect—also for American allies and anybody who challenges Chinese territorial claims in the South China Seas,” says Alexander Gabuev, chairman of the Carnegie Moscow Center’s Russia in the Asia-Pacific Program.
India, which has had sporadic skirmishes with China since the countries fought a bloody border war in 1962, is in the final stages of negotiating a $6 billion S-400 deal. According to Indian media, the contract may be signed before an October summit between Putin and Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Turkey risks U.S. sanctions over its $2.5 billion deal, financed with Russian loans, to buy the S-400. Under a 2017 law, the White House has to penalize countries that conduct a “significant transaction” with Russia’s defense sector. A defense spending bill passed by the U.S. Senate on June 18 calls for a freeze in arms sales to Turkey in response to its S-400 purchases. The bill also calls for the removal of Turkey from the F-35 joint strike fighter program, a multicountry, $400 billion plan to build and sell tactical jets to allies. Turkey was a key member of the program; it had ordered 100 F-35s and was slated to co-produce the jet. Some of its companies are the sole producers of essential parts in the supply chain. “The Turks have got to decide whether they’re going to be in NATO or aligned with Russia,” says Senator James Lankford, an Oklahoma Republican.
Despite the threats, Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, says the deal to buy the S-400 is done. On June 13, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey and Russia may also co-produce the next-generation S-500. “Russia seems to have communicated to Turkey that it’s in their interest in one way or another to align with them,” says Thomas Karako, director of the Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic & International Studies. “This is one of several ways in which they seem to be hugging their friends to the northeast.” The deal is a major milestone toward improving ties between the two countries after Turkey shot down a Russian fighter jet near its border with Syria in 2015.
On June 21, the U.S. Senate Committee on Appropriations passed an amendment attached to the annual Department of State funding bill that prohibits spending money to transfer the F-35 to Turkey until the secretary of state certifies that Turkey isn’t buying the S-400. “This provision makes it clear that if Turkey ignores the concerns of its NATO allies and moves forward with this partnership with Putin, it will no longer receive F-35s,” Senator Chris Van Hollen, a Democrat from Maryland, said in a statement.
Although losing Turkey as a customer would be a hit to F-35 manufacturer Lockheed Martin Corp., there are concerns that Russia will gain valuable intelligence—insights into U.S. air defense and aerial capabilities—if the country remains in the program. Senior U.S. defense officials have said that if Turkey operates both the F-35 and the S-400, it could compromise the F-35’s security, including its stealth capabilities. “It is in the American national interest to see Turkey remain strategically and politically aligned with the West, and we believe it is also in Turkey’s interests,” Assistant Secretary A. Wess Mitchell said at a congressional hearing in April.
As for Saudi Arabia, the increasingly warm ties it’s enjoyed with Russia, particularly over coordination in the oil markets, have also provoked alarm in the U.S. President Trump’s nominee for assistant secretary of state for near eastern affairs, David Schenker, said during his Senate confirmation hearing on June 14 that he would “tell Saudi Arabia not to do it” when asked about the kingdom’s talks to buy the S-400. During an historic visit by King Salman to Russia in October, Saudi Arabia agreed on other arms purchases, including antitank weapons and multiple-rocket launchers, and licensed Saudi production of Kalashnikov assault rifles.
Neighboring U.S.-allied states Kuwait, Bahrain, and the United Arab Emirates are also acquiring Russian weapons. The advanced Russian missile system has turned into a major bargaining chip in the region as rival powers seek to cement new relations with Russia to balance U.S. influence. In a letter to the French president, Saudi Arabia warned of “military actions” against Qatar if it buys the S-400, as Le Monde reported in early June.
The S-400 still has an element of “hype,” says Stratfor’s Lamrani. Still, “it has a very promising future—there are places where opportunities are opening up for Russia.” —With Stepan Kravchenko, Daniel Flatley, and Erik Wasson.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-22/russia-wants-to-sell-its-missiles-to-u-s-allies

Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by madridguy(m): 9:34am On Jun 23, 2018
shocked shocked shocked

Both US and Russia should respect their old age tongue
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by anibirelawal(m): 9:41am On Jun 23, 2018
Why always celebrating Killing Machine sef
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:57am On Jun 23, 2018
anibirelawal:
Why always celebrating Killing Machine sef
Bros, these aren't killing machines. Being missile defense systems they are life saving machine.
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:58am On Jun 23, 2018
I see Russia dominate in the near future

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by Nobody: 10:05am On Jun 23, 2018
Let me quickly park my bicycle here cheesy
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by anibirelawal(m): 10:06am On Jun 23, 2018
NOETHNICITY:
Bros, these aren't killing machines. Being missile defense systems they are life saving machine.


Good to know, But they are of the same league.
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:31am On Jun 23, 2018
anibirelawal:



Good to know, But they are of the same league.
I don't get what you mean. Do you mean they are of equal power
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by anibirelawal(m): 10:43am On Jun 23, 2018
NOETHNICITY:
I don't get what you mean. Do you mean they are of equal power


I mean both the defense system & killing machines are of the same league.

But it make good sense to have more sophiscated defense system than the attacking killing machine.
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 10:52am On Jun 23, 2018
anibirelawal:



I mean both the defense system & killing machines are of the same league.

But it make good sense to have more sophiscated defense system than the attacking killing machine.
true
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by Nobody: 1:40pm On Jun 23, 2018
Do you know why I so much hate Amerika? It is simply because Amerika was built on mind boggling lies and propaganda.

Did you see how Bloomberg craftily tried to making the Amerikan Patriot Batteries as not too bad a system by inserting this useless paragraph:

"The Patriot has superior anti-ballistic-missile capability, says Omar Lamrani, senior military analyst at Stratfor Enterprises LLC, a Texas consultant. It can also be integrated into other U.S.-made missile-defense systems, increasing its effectiveness. The Patriot has a long and successful track record on the battlefield, having come to fame during the 1991 Gulf War."

But the simple truth is that there's no Missile Defense System in the world that is as useless as the Patriot system. Dating back to the gulf war in 1991, the failure of this useless Amerikan Defense System was chronicled in a news report by the New York Times titled:

U.S. DETAILS FLAW IN PATRIOT MISSILE

The computer failure that blinded a Patriot missile defense system to an Iraqi missile that killed 28 Americans during the Persian Gulf war was similar to a problem discovered in another Patriot battery in Israel five days earlier, Army officials said today.

Army investigators disclosed last month that a "freak" software glitch was to blame when the Scud missile hit an American barracks in Al Khobar near Dhahran in Saudi Arabia on Feb. 25, causing the war's single worst casualty toll for Americans.

But the findings made public today showed that Army weapons experts in the United States were aware of a targeting problem that eroded the Patriot's accuracy, and were rushing to create new software to fix the problem.

In fact, Army officials said today, the improved software package arrived in Riyadh, the Saudi capital, from the Army's Missile Command in Huntsville, Ala., on Feb. 24, the day before the attack. But Army technical experts did not believe the targeting problem was serious, and the improved software was not actually delivered to the 21 Patriot batteries in Saudi Arabia until Feb. 26. Flaw Found by Accident.

The Patriot was originally designed as an anti-aircraft weapon and meant to be operated up to 14 hours at a time, after which it would be shut off for routine maintenance. During the war, however, Patriot batteries typically operated for more than 20 hours at a stretch.

The system that never fired a missile at the incoming Scud at Al Khobar had been running for more than 100 hours, Army officials said today.


Source: https://mobile.nytimes.com/1991/06/06/world/us-details-flaw-in-patriot-missile.html

Gentlemen, so you can now see that the Amerikan bastards have always been aware of their avalanche of inadequacies but always shield & cover it with propaganda & lies. grin

The actual capability of the Amerikans in the production of anything military is just 20% while using 80% to brainwash the whole world with propaganda.

The only thing Amerika does 100% well is McDonalds Burger, Kool-aids & Chocolates, and that is why majority of her citizens are dying from obesity & cancer due to GMOs. Hahahahahaaaaa! grin cheesy grin

How dare you even compare the Amerikans to the Russians? Till date, there's no any counter measures built against the Satan 2-Sarmat.

I was thrown into a complete state of anachronistic delirium when I heard that the Nigerian government spent $496 Million for the acquisition of 12 Tucano fighter jets that won't be delivered until the year 2020.

These useless trainers of aircraft have been retired & decommissioned in most of the advance Countries that operate them - and can easily be targeted & shot down with bazookas & catapults with grenades. cheesy

If I were in position of authourity today, I would have all the bastards in the Nigerian government that authorized this deal to be lined up from the President to the Ministers and their brain-dead advisors - sent to a firing squad for committing treason against the Nigerian State.

Do you know how many sophisticated 4++++ fighter jets $496 Million will get you in Russia?

Once again, this is the reason I am campaigning for Omoyele Sowore in our forthcoming Presidential elections. Let us flush out all these old pot-bellied brain-dead fura da nono drinking bastards from our polity and replace them with young, vibrant youths that are in tune with reality.

Comrades, at this juncture, allow me to save my ink until the day Mother Russia unveils another Earth-Quaking military weapon that will send the entire Amerikan military establishment & perfumed military Generals taking cover in their underground bunkers for safety while yelling - In God We Trust! grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Less I forget, bring me the empty skulls of those Amerikan defenders on NL because of useless Amerikan visas that are being revoked by that Amerikan racist bastard of a President - that I may use them to drink fura da nono. grin cheesy grin

Why should I waste my precious life & time in hunting for useless Amerikan visas when she has been destined for inevitable nuclear obliteration from Russian Borei Class Submarines? grin

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by seunny4lif(m): 1:51pm On Jun 23, 2018
S400 and S500 are the game changer grin

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 2:27pm On Jun 23, 2018
Zoharariel:
Do you know why I so much hate Amerika? It is simply because Amerika was built on mind boggling lies and propaganda.

Did you see how Bloomberg craftily tried to making the Amerikan Patriot Batteries as not too bad a system by inserting this useless paragraph:

"The Patriot has superior anti-ballistic-missile capability, says Omar Lamrani, senior military analyst at Stratfor Enterprises LLC, a Texas consultant. It can also be integrated into other U.S.-made missile-defense systems, increasing its effectiveness. The Patriot has a long and successful track record on the battlefield, having come to fame during the 1991 Gulf War."

But the simple truth is that there's no Missile Defense System in the world that is as useless as the Patriot system. Dating back to the gulf war in 1991, the failure of this useless Amerikan Defense System was chronicled in a news report by the New York Times titled:

U.S. DETAILS FLAW IN PATRIOT MISSILE

The computer failure that blinded a Patriot missile defense system to an Iraqi missile that killed 28 Americans during the Persian Gulf war was similar to a problem discovered in another Patriot battery in Israel five days earlier, Army officials said today.

Army investigators disclosed last month that a "freak" software glitch was to blame when the Scud missile hit an American barracks in Al Khobar near Dhahran in Saudi Arabia on Feb. 25, causing the war's single worst casualty toll for Americans.

But the findings made public today showed that Army weapons experts in the United States were aware of a targeting problem that eroded the Patriot's accuracy, and were rushing to create new software to fix the problem.

In fact, Army officials said today, the improved software package arrived in Riyadh, the Saudi capital, from the Army's Missile Command in Huntsville, Ala., on Feb. 24, the day before the attack. But Army technical experts did not believe the targeting problem was serious, and the improved software was not actually delivered to the 21 Patriot batteries in Saudi Arabia until Feb. 26. Flaw Found by Accident.

The Patriot was originally designed as an anti-aircraft weapon and meant to be operated up to 14 hours at a time, after which it would be shut off for routine maintenance. During the war, however, Patriot batteries typically operated for more than 20 hours at a stretch.

The system that never fired a missile at the incoming Scud at Al Khobar had been running for more than 100 hours, Army officials said today.

Source: https://mobile.nytimes.com/1991/06/06/world/us-details-flaw-in-patriot-missile.html

Gentlemen, so you can now see that the Amerikan bastards have always been aware of their avalanche of inadequacies but always shield & cover it with propaganda & lies. grin

The actual capability of the Amerikans in the production of anything military is just 20% while using 80% to brainwash the whole world with propaganda.

The only thing Amerika does 100% well is McDonalds Burger, Kool-aids & Chocolates, and that is why majority of her citizens are dying from obesity & cancer due to GMOs. Hahahahahaaaaa! grin cheesy grin

How dare you even compare the Amerikans to the Russians? Till date, there's no any counter measures built against the Satan 2-Sarmat.

I was thrown into a complete state of anachronistic delirium when I heard that the Nigerian government spent $496 Million for the acquisition of 12 Tucano fighter jets that won't be delivered until the year 2020.

These useless trainers of aircraft have been retired & decommissioned in most of the advance Countries that operate them - and can easily be targeted & shot down with bazookas & catapults with grenades. cheesy

If I were in position of authourity today, I would have all the bastards in the Nigerian government that authorized this deal to be lined up from the President to the Ministers and their brain-dead advisors - sent to a firing squad for committing treason against the Nigerian State.

Do you know how many sophisticated 4++++ fighter jets $496 Million will get you in Russia?

Once again, this is the reason I am campaigning for Omoyele Sowore in our forthcoming Presidential elections. Let us flush out all these old pot-bellied brain-dead fura da nono drinking bastards from our polity and replace them with young, vibrant youths that are in tune with reality.

Comrades, at this juncture, allow me to save my ink until the day Mother Russia unveils another Earth-Quaking military weapon that will send the entire Amerikan military establishment & perfumed military Generals taking cover in their underground bunkers for safety while yelling - In God We Trust! grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Ur submissions cannot be truer than it is.

I heard the Russian Sarmat 2 beats anything the USA can ever come up with.

I read somewhere b4 now about the failure of the patriot missile defense system deployed in Saudi which was, though, partially confirmed in this Bloomberg document here, but the extent of failure largely downplayed. That one of the missile exploded immediately after launch while a barrage of other missiles from Yemeni rebels continue to penetrate unhindered.
The failure of the patriot I think is largely responsible for Saudi govt's desperate pursuit of other options particularly the Russian S-400 missile defense system whose effectiveness the USA is desperately trying to prevent the world from experiencing.

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by aiir2303(m): 10:46pm On Jun 23, 2018
It also reminds me on the Israeli iron Dome defence system. Never seen it work against any BMs. Maybe it good at intercepting rocks thrown by the oppressed Palestinians. It's supposed effectiveness is fueled by propaganda and also has another use of staging false Flags and blaming it on the poor people of Gaza . Nothing beats the S-400 #fact

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by Appleyard(m): 11:23pm On Jun 23, 2018
NOETHNICITY:
Ur submissions cannot be truer than it is.

I heard the Russian Sarmat 2 beats anything the USA can ever come up with.

I read somewhere b4 now about the failure of the patriot missile defense system deployed in Saudi which was, though, partially confirmed in this Bloomberg document here, but the extent of failure largely downplayed. That one of the missile exploded immediately after launch while a barrage of other missiles from Yemeni rebels continue to penetrate unhindered.
The failure of the patriot I think is largely responsible for Saudi govt's desperate pursuit of other options particularly the Russian S-400 missile defense system whose effectiveness the USA is desperately trying to prevent the world from experiencing.

The United States is good in weaponry, no doubt about that. But comparing their missile technology to that of Russia is like comparing spears with needles.

Didn't you read the place where they have to pay the Yetsin cash-strapped government $120 million just to study the air defence technology?

The truth is, when it comes to missile technology, no other nation beat Russia.

And another thing most people don't realize is that the US MIC and Pentagon is the most corrupt organized military group in the world. They keep swindling the US government and the American taxpayers off money with fiticious threats and overblown contracts. but that is a story for another day.

Now, if you really want to see the unclothedness of American lies pertaining to the patriot missile, ask the Israeli state. Israel still has the chronicles of Patriot system failure. We are talking about a system that could not even shoot down a Russian made drone that enter Israeli airspace last year.

The truth is, the two systems doesn't compare cause the basis are so much different. Don't forget that the S400 was design to also defend against stealth. The Patriot is not.

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by Appleyard(m): 11:55pm On Jun 23, 2018
And who says the Russian S-400 hasn't tasted combat? It has tasted "tactical" combat, and that's in Syria.
Yeah. This might not be known to many people, but the few who are resilient and the people that matters most knows exactly what the S400 represents, and that include Turkey, Israel and US.

The US DoD had complained openly that "all their planes" are being "painted" in the Syria sky by Russian Air defense systems. That's right, they actually said that. cheesy

And we know that when the US said "All" of our planes, it means every single planes they put in the air in Syria were being identified and tracked (which means painted in military terms) by Russian Air defence systems. And we know the F-22 Raptor had also been flying in the Syrian sky. cheesy

Now, you can understand the frustration of the US and the reason they want to prevent any country from buying the Russia S-400 because, that is the only Air Defense system in Syria capable of identifying and tracking the F22. cheesy and that explain why Turkey wants it so badly. They knew all that was happening to US planes, especially the F-22 that were based in the Turkey-own Icirlik airbase from where the F22 operates. cheesy

That's the reason their military experts is pressing Erdogan to close the deal on the S-400 so Badly. cool

It's for the same reason that Saudi Arabia is cueing up to buy the system. And it's the same reason the likes of Qatar and some others wants it too.

They knew that with the S-400, your adversary with its stealth fighter -- call it F22 or F35 -- is just like any other fighter plane that is a flying coffin.

Otherwise, can you explain why so many nations wants to buy a missile defense system that hasn't seen actual combat? grin

Brethren, fear the Russian rocket forces. cool

Happy Sunday.

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by romme2u: 2:27am On Jun 24, 2018
seunny4lif:
S400 and S500 are the game changer grin

cool

Tilting the world power balance to the East.............and creating a Bi-polar world

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 7:17am On Jun 24, 2018
Appleyard:


The United States is good in weaponry, no doubt about that. But comparing their missile technology to that of Russia is like comparing spears with needles.

Didn't you read the place where they have to pay the Yetsin cash-strapped government $120 million just to study the air defence technology?

The truth is, when it comes to missile technology, no other nation beat Russia.

And another thing most people don't realize is that the US MIC and Pentagon is the most corrupt organized military group in the world. They keep swindling the US government and the American taxpayers off money with fiticious threats and overblown contracts. but that is a story for another day.

Now, if you really want to see the unclothedness of American lies pertaining to the patriot missile, ask the Israeli state. Israel still has the chronicles of Patriot system failure. We are talking about a system that could not even shoot down a Russian made drone that enter Israeli airspace last year.

The truth is, the two systems doesn't compare cause the basis are so much different. Don't forget that the S400 was design to also defend against stealth. The Patriot is not.
I must admit I was shocked to read the part where the US government paid 150m to learn from Russia after the cold war.
Again you are very correct about the US MIC & Pentagon being ultra corrupt. I read sometime ago, about a comparison between the Chinese and US military budget after US top military brass warned of a rising Chinese military power that threatens to match it's US counterpart.
This warning raised alarm in Congress prompting the summoning of top military officers to substantiate the assertion given the understanding that US military budget which is in excess of 700b triples that of the Chinese's which is just over 200b.
Other private enquiries revealed the monumental corruption in the US MIC which is almost non existent in China. And that also, most Chinese companies that manufacture military equipments are State owned which makes it much more cheaper for government procure them.

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by NOETHNICITY(m): 7:30am On Jun 24, 2018
Appleyard:
And who says the Russian S-400 hasn't tasted combat? It has tasted "tactical" combat, and that's in Syria.
Yeah. This might not be known to many people, but the few who are resilient and the people that matters most knows exactly what the S400 represents, and that include Turkey, Israel and US.

The US DoD had complained openly that "all their planes" are being "painted" in the Syria sky by Russian Air defense systems. That's right, they actually said that. cheesy

And we know that when the US said "All" of our planes, it means every single planes they put in the air in Syria were being identified and tracked (which means painted in military terms) by Russian Air defence systems. And we know the F-22 Raptor had also been flying in the Syrian sky. cheesy

Now, you can understand the frustration of the US and the reason they want to prevent any country from buying the Russia S-400 because, that is the only Air Defense system in Syria capable of identifying and tracking the F22. cheesy and that explain why Turkey wants it so badly. They knew all that was happening to US planes, especially the F-22 that were based in the Turkey-own Icirlik airbase from where the F22 operates. cheesy

That's the reason their military experts is pressing Erdogan to close the deal on the S-400 so Badly. cool

It's for the same reason that Saudi Arabia is cueing up to buy the system. And it's the same reason the likes of Qatar and some others wants it too.

They knew that with the S-400, your adversary with its stealth fighter -- call it F22 or F35 -- is just like any other fighter plane that is a flying coffin.

Otherwise, can you explain why so many nations wants to buy a missile defense system that hasn't seen actual combat? grin

Brethren, fear the Russian rocket forces. cool

Happy Sunday.
You are correct once again. To buttress your point further, haven't you wondered why Syrian government adversaries gets easily agitated whenever the Russian government threatens to equip the Syria military with the S400? This threat usually evoke ripples within the Israeli government so much so that the Israeli PM has to alws fly to Moscow to get assurances from Putin that Syria will not be so equipped.

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by seunny4lif(m): 9:31am On Jun 24, 2018
romme2u:


cool

Tilting the world power balance to the East.............and creating a Bi-polar world in perfect symmetry cos the US is working to level up
cool
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by seunny4lif(m): 9:36am On Jun 24, 2018
NOETHNICITY:
You are correct once again. To buttress your point further, haven't you wondered why Syrian government adversaries gets easily agitated whenever the Russian government threatens to equip the Syria military with the S400? This threat usually evoke ripples within the Israeli government so much so that the Israeli PM has to alws fly to Moscow to get assurances from Putin that Syria will not be so equipped.
Not even S400, it was S300 and Isreal PM has meet Putin more than any other leader this year.
The reason Russia never shot down Isreal or US jets was becos Russia military personals are not target.
Isreal knows what S200 did to her almighty F35 and F22, that's why their PM always run to Moscow every 3 months

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by Nobody: 9:37am On Jun 24, 2018
NOETHNICITY:
I see Russia dominate in the near future

Comrade, we are already in the future and Mother Russia is already dominating. The Amerikan bastards just do not want to admit it yet. grin cheesy grin

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by seunny4lif(m): 9:59am On Jun 24, 2018
Putin on Syria :
It was a prefect opportunity for us to train the military and test almost all out weapons.

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by aiir2303(m): 8:27pm On Jun 24, 2018
Appleyard:


The United States is good in weaponry, no doubt about that. But comparing their missile technology to that of Russia is like comparing spears with needles.

Didn't you read the place where they have to pay the Yetsin cash-strapped government $120 million just to study the air defence technology?

The truth is, when it comes to missile technology, no other nation beat Russia.

And another thing most people don't realize is that the US MIC and Pentagon is the most corrupt organized military group in the world. They keep swindling the US government and the American taxpayers off money with fiticious threats and overblown contracts. but that is a story for another day.

Now, if you really want to see the unclothedness of American lies pertaining to the patriot missile, ask the Israeli state. Israel still has the chronicles of Patriot system failure. We are talking about a system that could not even shoot down a Russian made drone that enter Israeli airspace last year.

The truth is, the two systems doesn't compare cause the basis are so much different. Don't forget that the S400 was design to also defend against stealth. The Patriot is not.

True. I'm sure you're aware of the $21 trillion missing money at the Pentagon. Can you just imagine, that amount is almost the entire debt of The Us

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by romme2u: 10:58pm On Jun 24, 2018
seunny4lif:
Putin on Syria :
It was a prefect opportunity for us to train the military and test almost all our weapons.
cheesy

very perfect opportunity for a smart chap

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by romme2u: 11:02pm On Jun 24, 2018
seunny4lif:

Not even S400, it was S300 and Isreal PM has meet Putin more than any other leader this year.
The reason Russia never shot down Isreal or US jets was becos Russia military personals are not target.
Isreal knows what S200 did to her almighty F35 and F22, that's why their PM always run to Moscow every 3 months

cheesy

like reporting to duty to mark register grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Even Saudi and UAE crowned princes have been frequenting Moscow lately


Anyway the S-300 has already been delivered to Iran to checkmate Israel's activities in the region.......as overdoes may kill the region.

With Turkey, Qatar and Saudi gunning for the S-400, Russia has officially taken over the command of Middle East politics from America and is hereby declared the winner of the Energy War

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Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by BAILMONEY: 11:55pm On Jun 24, 2018
anibirelawal:
Why always celebrating Killing Machine sef
THE SAME WAY YOU ARE CELEBRATING THE KILLING MACHINE WE HAVE AS PRESIDENT angry
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by anibirelawal(m): 6:55am On Jun 25, 2018
BAILMONEY:
THE SAME WAY YOU ARE CELEBRATING THE KILLING MACHINE WE HAVE AS PRESIDENT angry


My President is a Progressive Leader. He has nothing to do with the killings in the country. The evil mongers committing those atrocity shall be brought to book soonest.
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by moshmoney06: 10:58pm On Jun 25, 2018
when we Nigeria go have one of these missile defense system in case for the future
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by Appleyard(m): 5:20am On Jul 09, 2018
aiir2303:


True. I'm sure you're aware of the $21 trillion missing money at the Pentagon. Can you just imagine, that amount is almost the entire debt of The Us

Yeah. That was part of the reasons the ediots pulled off 9/11 to cover up their mess. The plane that hit the Pentagon fell exactly on the section where the records containing the missing money were kept, and some ediot still believe Osama did 9/11.
Re: Comparin Russian S-400 Vs US Patriot Missile Defense System photos- Bloomberg by Appleyard(m): 5:54am On Jul 09, 2018
NOETHNICITY:
I must admit I was shocked to read the part where the US government paid 150m to learn from Russia after the cold war.
Again you are very correct about the US MIC & Pentagon being ultra corrupt. I read sometime ago, about a comparison between the Chinese and US military budget after US top military brass warned of a rising Chinese military power that threatens to match it's US counterpart.
This warning raised alarm in Congress prompting the summoning of top military officers to substantiate the assertion given the understanding that US military budget which is in excess of 700b triples that of the Chinese's which is just over 200b.
Other private enquiries revealed the monumental corruption in the US MIC which is almost non existent in China. And that also, most Chinese companies that manufacture military equipments are State owned which makes it much more cheaper for government procure them.

Any one with half a brain know that the US MIC led by Pentagon is even more corrupt than Satan himself.

In a sane world, the military contractors behind the F22 (a plane that flies 3 hours in the air and spend 17 hours on the ground doing its manicure) should be in jail for deception and misappropriation of funds. The F35 is even a worse case scenario.

America's history of military corruption is second to none. Even as corrupt as Russia is, it's no way near the monumental corruption we have in the US.

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