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Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:10pm On Jun 26, 2018
Was the deity of Christ invented at the council of Nicea?

The "Council of Nicea" has received all kinds of criticisms, including the idea that they invented the idea that Jesus is God in the flesh. But as we can see from history, this belief had existed in the church for hundreds of years before the council:

http://reasonsforjesus.com/was-the-deity-of-christ-invented-at-the-council-of-nicea/

Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 9:41pm On Jun 26, 2018
There was no Christianity before Nicea... There were a lot of cults that existed in the roman empire, and beyond. One of which was the cult of the Queen of heaven . it is this cult that was rebranded as Christianity.. It has got nothing to do with the jews..

It was after Constantine has asked Eusebius to prepare a uniform writing from those presented at the council. That is what he used in writing the gospel of luke and other used it as a base for the others.. John chystosome edited the writing of Apolinius of Tyana and pass them as the epistle of Paul..

The jesus story is not Jewish.. The Messiah they where waiting for is a normal man like you and me.. Not a demi God..He is not coming to die but to rule in a peaceful world... Because According to the old testament, God is responsible for both good and evil..

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Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:13am On Jul 02, 2018
sonmvayina:


There was no Christianity before Nicea... There were a lot of cults that existed in the roman empire, and beyond. One of which was the cult of the Queen of heaven . it is this cult that was rebranded as Christianity.. It has got nothing to do with the jews..

It was after Constantine has asked Eusebius to prepare a uniform writing from those presented at the council. That is what he used in writing the gospel of luke and other used it as a base for the others.. John chystosome edited the writing of Apolinius of Tyana and pass them as the epistle of Paul..

The jesus story is not Jewish.. The Messiah they where waiting for is a normal man like you and me.. Not a demi God..He is not coming to die but to rule in a peaceful world... Because According to the old testament, God is responsible for both good and evil..

You seem to be confusing traditional religion with Christianity, they are apples and oranges, they are not the same get your facts right.

Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by rekinomtla(m): 4:20am On Jul 02, 2018
Jesus being created at nicea is part of the atheist brainwashing kit, used specifically on new converts.
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:07am On Jul 02, 2018
rekinomtla:


Jesus being created at nicea is part of the atheist brainwashing kit, used specifically on new converts.

They claim Christians have been brainwashed when the truth is that they (atheists) are the ones who have been brainwashed with lies from the pit of hell.

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Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 3:50pm On Jul 02, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


You seem to be confusing traditional religion with Christianity, they are apples and oranges, they are not the same get your facts right.

God did not promise the jews a Messiah that is coming to die to save them, he promised to send a Messiah that will rule them like David in a peaceful world.. To deliver them from the enemies surrounding them..

The messiah coming to die is a roman invention and ideology... They only added their new testament to the Jewish writings to deceive you..

That is my point..

According to the jews, all God wanted was a sincere repentance and God will remember your sins no more, no human sacrifice was necessary or required..

The dying and rising God idea is roman,
I don't know how else to make you understand..

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Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 4:00pm On Jul 02, 2018
The prophet encouraged people to look forward to a peaceful future, one that was devoid of suffering, death, war, oppression etc..

All of a sudden, the Romans came and invented a gory past. And told them the messiah has come and gone... And none of them saw or noticed him.. Common, don't be a slow poke..

That is how people know that the jesus story is an invention, He did not fulfil any of the messianic prophesy...
The purpose is to deceive you and keep you in perpetual bondage..
The jews know too well that God is not a man or human being.. And worshipping one is tantamount to idolatry as the second commandments forbids it..

I know you have invested your life on it, but you can still free your self from its clothes.. And have a complete knowledge of God.. Trade your faith for knowledge.. Pls

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Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:51pm On Jul 02, 2018
sonmvayina:


God did not promise the jews a Messiah that is coming to die to save them, he promised to send a Messiah that will rule them like David in a peaceful world.. To deliver them from the enemies surrounding them..

The messiah coming to die is a roman invention and ideology... They only added their new testament to the Jewish writings to deceive you..

That is my point..

According to the jews, all God wanted was a sincere repentance and God will remember your sins no more, no human sacrifice was necessary or required..

The dying and rising God idea is roman,
I don't know how else to make you understand..

"And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad" (John 11:49-52).

See how Caiaphas, the high priest was divinely inspired to acknowledge the real mission of Christ to the Jews and the whole world (see John 18:14), if you care for the truth. The high priest prophesied that Jesus was the substitutionary sacrifice for their sins. And if your atheist mind doubts the existence of this Caiaphas scientists discovered his bones in his tomb underneath the modern city in 1922.
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:55pm On Jul 02, 2018
sonmvayina:


The prophet encouraged people to look forward to a peaceful future, one that was devoid of suffering, death, war, oppression etc..

All of a sudden, the Romans came and invented a gory past. And told them the messiah has come and gone... And none of them saw or noticed him.. Common, don't be a slow poke..

That is how people know that the jesus story is an invention, He did not fulfil any of the messianic prophesy...
The purpose is to deceive you and keep you in perpetual bondage..
The jews know too well that God is not a man or human being.. And worshipping one is tantamount to idolatry as the second commandments forbids it..

I know you have invested your life on it, but you can still free your self from its clothes.. And have a complete knowledge of God.. Trade your faith for knowledge.. Pls

All you said up there are your own emotionally laden opinions without a single thread of fact. Now read about the facts below and liberate your mind from mental and spiritual slavery. cool

Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 5:03pm On Jul 02, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


All you said up there are your own emotionally laden opinions without a single thread of facts. Now read about the facts below and liberate your mind from mental and spiritual slavery. cool

Those are not messianic prophesies.... Pls..
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 5:07pm On Jul 02, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


"And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad" (John 11:49-52).

See how Caiaphas, the high priest was divinely inspired to acknowledge the real mission of Christ to the Jews and the whole world (see John 18:14), if you care for the truth. The high priest prophesied that Jesus was the substitutionary sacrifice for their sins. And if your atheist mind doubts the existence of this Caiaphas scientists discovered his bones in his tomb underneath the modern city in 1922.

The old testament God does not like or accept human sacrifice, that is the message in the story of Abraham and Isaac.

And you are using the new testament to prove the new testament.. It is circular reasoning..

The jews will not accept jesus, because they know he was invented to mock and insult their God... Daniel7:25
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:42pm On Jul 02, 2018
sonmvayina:


The old testament God does not like or accept human sacrifice, that is the message in the story of Abraham and Isaac.

"And Abraham said, my son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together" ( Genesis 22:8 )

And that is the reason God prevented Abraham from sacrificing his son Isaac. He promised to provide Himself a lamb. Jesus is God incarnate and that was the purpose He came to the world to fulfil this promise. Abraham understood the divinely-ordained principle of substitutionary sacrifice ever since God shed the blood of the first sacrificial lamb to provide covering for Adam and Eve. He knew that a day would come when the "Lamb of God" would be offered by God to "take away the sin of the world" and yet again fulfilling His eternal promises. (See Isaiah 53:7; Acts 8:32 and 1 Peter 1:9).

"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" (John 1:29).

sonmvayina:


And you are using the new testament to prove the new testament.. It is circular reasoning..

Would it be out of place if I should direct you to look inside the White House in an attempt to prove President Trump lives in the White House? If you are having difficulties with the New Testament lets look into the Old Testament.

"He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth" (Isaiah 53:7).

sonmvayina:


The jews will not accept jesus, because they know he was invented to mock and insult their God... Daniel7:25

"But as many as received Him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name" (John 1:12).

Blindness in part has come upon the Jews and this is why He has turned to us Gentiles. The time is coming that this dispensation of grace will end and the Jews' eyes will be opened to accept that their Messiah has come and is coming back again.

Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:49pm On Jul 02, 2018
sonmvayina:


Those are not messianic prophesies.... Pls..

Read up on at least 40 Messianic prophecies in the link below and be set free from the shackles of unbelief.

https://jewsforjesus.org/answers/top-40-most-helpful-messianic-prophecies/
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 5:55pm On Jul 02, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Read up on at least 40 Messianic prophecies in the link below and be set free from the shackles of unbelief.

https://jewsforjesus.org/answers/top-40-most-helpful-messianic-prophecies/


So why is there no peace in the world since them? Isaiah says " they will hammer their sword into ploughshares and learn of war no more"

Why has this not happened?
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by Nobody: 5:55pm On Jul 02, 2018
Almost all Humans have been Gods, so Yes, we are Gods in the flesh.

If the Universe choose to express itself as Zeus, then there is no reason it shouldnt express itself as Jesus, or even Mohammed or Allah.

Except that though Jehovah and Allah are tentacles of the same Octopus Solid State Being, it actually is worth noting that these entities are Gods in their own right, but not superior to every other human that walk on Earth that realizes its full potentials.

There is no single human being on this plane of existence that truly recognizes and remembers itself as Creator that wouldnt dine on better tables than the Jehovahs and Allahs of this world.

We might all kneel down and worship some entity in the past and even now and in the future, that happens only because we are ignorant of the fact that our consciousness requires no savior or God. We have forgotten what we are, and who we are.

But I think I am gradually remembering.....

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Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:09pm On Jul 02, 2018
sonmvayina:



So why is there no peace in the world since them? Isaiah says " they will hammer their sword into ploughshares and learn of war no more"

Why has this not happened?

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6)

There will never be a true and lasting world peace until the "Prince of Peace" comes to enforce it (See Isaiah 9:6). This will happen after the rapture and at His second coming when the Jews would realise that Jesus Christ is their Messiah and would then cry to Him for deliverance from the anti-christ, it is only then would Jesus come down to earth and set up His Government (Millennial Reign) from Jerusalem.
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 6:25pm On Jul 02, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6)

There will never be a true and lasting world peace until the "Prince of Peace" comes to enforce it (See Isaiah 9:6). This will happen after the rapture and at His second coming when the Jews would realise that Jesus Christ is their Messiah and would then cry to Him for deliverance from the anti-christ, it is only then would Jesus come down to earth and set up His Government (Millennial Reign) from Jerusalem.

Then jesus is not the messiah, because the messiah is coming once and doing it on the first attempt as God NEVER said the messiah will come twice.. No second coming arrangements..
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by Primesky(m): 9:09pm On Jul 02, 2018
Oh Lord have mercy on athiests.They will always find a way to riggle away from accepting the truth.

Jesus Christ is the way
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:30pm On Aug 27, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


Was the deity of Christ invented at the council of Nicea?

The "Council of Nicea" has received all kinds of criticisms, including the idea that they invented the idea that Jesus is God in the flesh. But as we can see from history, this belief had existed in the church for hundreds of years before the council:

http://reasonsforjesus.com/was-the-deity-of-christ-invented-at-the-council-of-nicea/

Was the deity of Christ invented at the council of Nicea? undecided
Re: Was The Deity Of Christ Invented At The Council Of Nicea? by sonmvayina(m): 6:40pm On Aug 27, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


Was the deity of Christ invented at the council of Nicea? undecided

Yes it was.....

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